I live in Germany. I have noticed more Chinese EVs on the roads than in the past. Six months ago it was rare to see a Chinese EV on the roads. At best I saw one a month. Now I am seeing them several times a week, sometimes even several in one day.
When the EV incentive of $7500 turned off in NZ before I could buy it really did put me off. Probably more so than if it had never existed. Recently Tesla put the price down about $2k for the Model Y here, that is encouraging. Humans huh.
Sounds just about right, and when America removes the EV incentives, sales of EVs will go down here also. Tesla is foreseeing this and once again ahead of the curve. 🔮 Hence the layoffs of 14,000 + employees ❕️!❗️!❕️
@torben777 Six minutes and 25 seconds is nothing. From here, I'll be back to watching historical records of World War 2. 💥❗️💥 Those videos are from forty minutes to one hour and twenty minutes long. Very *VERY* interesting 👍 . 📚📚📚
@zzcossackzz1890 L😂L 👍 *"Mr. Elon Musk"* is in the news, more than any President or any movie star or any singer or any actor. Since Elon season is year round, he's more in the news than any athlete. So yeah if you are NOT a fan of his, things can be very overbearing with the Dude. . *"~Person of the Year~"* UnReaL
@zzcossackzz1890 a lot of other "EV only Automobile makers" , will no longer be with us no doubt, since only Tesla and BYD are the only companies making a profit selling EVs.
nz has no car industry to protect and they removed subsidies, the reason being the govt does not believe in subsidies in a free market, it leads to inefficiencies
every major industrialized country is a mixed economy. subsidies help get new industries going. particularly ones that are capital intensive. would have been nice to see the incentives gradually phased out overtime. its a shock to industry when they are cut off abruptly.
Wow how naive, thats the argument they use when its suits them, meanwhile all sorts of gov grants, tax rebates, writeoffs and incentives are being exploited by those in the know..geesh you will be talking about trickle down economics next. NZ the land of hydro and imported energy, and i thought we were dumb in australia
Many EV's purchased with incentives in Germany were exported after the required 6 months to neighbor countries and the first owners made a profit and a business out of the practice. In effect Getmany subsidised EVs for its neighbours as well and the government wouldn't stand for that in the long run. So they killed the incentives. Any new incentive plan must not have the export loophole.
Insightful. And one more reason why tax breaks always have problems. I feel that in the long run, the best thing that will sell EV's are great EV's, not tax breaks.
This video completely ignores the fact that many used car dealers in Germany are refusing to purchase EVs. Many authorised dealerships will no no longer accept EVs as a trade-in. What many do not understand about Germany is that a relatively affluent minority that own a house have by now purchased an EV. That leaves the rest of households living in rented apartments for whom EVs are not àn option. This is not rocket surgery.
EV market down in Germany by 14.1%, Tesla 36.7%. And VW Group outsold Tesla in BEV category in Germany in 2024 Q1, even with some of its brands (e.g. CUPRA) are missing from the list from that source. So VW -30%+ is only for the brand and all models (also ICE), while for example Skoda increased sales by over 40% in Germany. VW (Group) in Q1: Total deliveries up from 2.04 M to 2.10 M Europe -0.3%, BEVs -24% US: -2%, BEVs: -16% China:+8%, BEVs: +91%
If this is true. You are *"AWESOME"* 👌 Filling in the "Gaps" Sam is not giving us. 😒 I am learning a lot under this video , Reading the comments. 🤔 📚📚📚
Could it be German reliability? My (still under warranty) 2019 GTI just got ANOTHER recall notice regarding a part that is not yet available to install. TPMS, ABS module AND just yesterday… I got another notice, and it’s for a component in the Fuel tank. “Fire risk” stood out. I haven’t had app-connectivity since 2021 because they STILL don’t have the 4G module for my telematics… (I repeat - Still under warranty) The new Mk8 GTI has a completely plastic interior, an electronic parking brake, and seems to be priced too high for something that feels like a used Ford Focus…
One of the things that caught my eye. Many years ago was how when they went from 4G to 5G , only Tesla came up with a compatible 5G adapter. Even though I did not have a clue how nice it was for Tesla to do that. All the other Auto companies making EVs. Wanted You can buy one of their new EVs.
Thanks Sam for spending so much time and effort checking the facts as best you can, then getting them to us. I don't know how you continue to deal with all the misinformation and BS...I couldn't do it!
I think part of of this is that knowing ev incentives would end, many people bought evs while they could still get incentives, who otherwise might have waited until 2024 to buy. I would have, given that situation.
. The incentives are why a lot of people bought those cars. Plus made EVs affordable to a lot of people that otherwise couldn't afford an EV ❕️💲❕️ When America removes the EV incentives, sales of EVs will go down here also. Tesla has foreseen this and once again is ahead of the curve. 🔮 Hence the layoffs of 14,000 + employees ❕️!❗️!❕️ So many people that follow this channel are pretty well off and have no clue what the middle class and lesser class people are going through. 🤦🏼
Incentives were cut because the government faced a huge budget shortfall due to the Supreme Court striking down a scheme to use Corona money for environmental protection. That is the real reason!
no only people with extrem deep pockets and a own house just one excemple a Corsa F 1.2 Turbo cost 21.000 € Corse F 1.2 Turbo Hybrid 48 V 28.000 € Corsa F EV 38.000 € that thas same base car with different engines and also the lower specs most working klass people dont buy cars that cost more the 30k here if they sell a expencive car in germany it like 70% secound hand form the dealer (like a car they used in showrooms or for test drives for a year or two) by the way most factory new cars are sold to companys or as a car leasing (that like a long term car rent, people keep them for 2-4 year and then replace tehm, with new models) most factory new cars are not sold here anymore because tehy got to expenvice, as excemple a vw polo base line did start at 12.300€ 10 years ago now it starts at 21.500€
The Australian Federal Government has introduced and passed a Bill into Parliament to amend the FBT Act to place an exemption on EV, PHEV and Hydrogen power vehicles. The principle of this bill is to help make these vehicles more affordable for both fleets and employees using novated leasing. It is designed to help promote individuals and companies to switch to EV, PHEV and Hydrogen powered vehicles to reduce emission levels inline with the national emission reduction targets.
One off the reasons is the same as me, I have a Tesla Model 3 Performance and what I see is the depreciation in EV that is bigger compared with ICE cars and for helping is the reduction prices made by Tesla is very bad for the client, I love Tesla I wanted to buy other but I’m going back to ICE cars back to petrol 😃
No maintenance costs may be true for Tesla only. We had a KIA BEV and now a Hyundai BEV, you have to pay similar or more money to the dealership for mandatory "stamping" as for an ICE service.
Many people (like ourselves) are waiting for this Chinese EV tsunami as well. Probably the second half of this year there will be huge discounts on new EV's here in Germany.
. Rightfully so* Yep, you are correct. 😮 The incentives are why a lot of people bought those cars. Plus made EVs affordable to a lot of people that otherwise couldn't afford an EV ❕️💲❕️ When America removes the EV incentives, sales of EVs will go down here also. Tesla has foreseen this and once again is ahead of the curve. 🔮 Hence the layoffs of 14,000 + employees ❕️!❗️!❕️ So many people that follow this channel are pretty well off and have no clue what the middle class and lesser class people are going through. 🤦🏼
@@icosthop9998 odd that you just keep posting the same shiz everywhere on this tread. I wonder what the deal is with that. A shill of some kind / bot farm oddity.
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Ev new car sales are down because 1, subsides are reduced or gone, 2nd hand ev market cars are 40% + off so why buy new, 3, new buyers are waiting for better battery miles and charging speeds and charging infrastructure to get better,4 High interest rates and recession on in many countries so why buy a luxury item you don’t have to buy.5 Some insurance companies don’t like pure ev’s like Tesla and charge a much higher premium or refuse to insure. With better batteries I think the car category likely to have the best sales are hybrids. Unfortunately for Tesla and other pure BEV’s zero sales here.
It's a good time to get a deal in the US. A week ago I bought a 2024 Kia EV6 Wind AWD for $43000 (before tax but including fees). MSRP $55960 + $3285 in dealer installed add-ons (window tint, paint sealant, door film protection, tire nitrogen, SWAT). 27% off full list and 23% off MSRP.
While I'm not taking anything away from the discussion about the inability to compete in the EV space with China, the incentives died because the government found themselves in a budgetary deficit incurred by unrelated policy changes. Canceling the EV incentive was one of the measures to balance the books.
totally no one mentioned the cost to government, never meant to be a 'for all time' thing. NZ capped it and said when that amount runs out then it is done.
They stopped all incentives in the netherlands for cars with a catalogus price over 45000 euro. Already years ago. Still a lot of people buy those more expensive EV's. (I must add to this that the tax on buying a car depends on the CO2 production (using wltp usage) at the exhaust pipe. In other words...Zero CO2 means zero tax...result of this is that especially with the more luxe brands an EV even without direct incentivs does not cost a lot more than an ICE... But due to high energy taxes (also on electricity) makes that the savings on energy with an ev can be high. Up to 10 eurocent for each km. Only this makes energy costs when driving 25000 km a year 2500 lower.However, electricity from solar panels own by someone are not taxed at all...adding a few more cents /km savings if you can charge at home and own enough panels.
No Ev for me as it’s far more costly to add to my solar system just to accommodate a power draining EV, no thanks. Better with a hybrid, as I would rather have more options.
@@jonnieinbangkokno numbnuts, you don’t pay the real cost of the cancer-causing, lung-disease inducing, climate-change promoting, stuff that you burn to operate your ICE car - too complicated for you to understand bro?
You are overlooking the political aspect. Germany has a green ideological government "Ampel" coalition with at this point in time less than 30% support left. That government closed 6 nuclear plants and had to rely on even more coal fired plants. Bundesnetzagentur has prohibited closing down these coal plant in order to prevent the collapse of the electric grid. Some cities were forced to impose limits on installing head pumps and charging stations because the electric power simply is not available. The extremely high electricity prices have caused well known German firms to close down or to leave Germany. Germany's economy is suffering a recession. The marxist green ideologues are quite happy to e-industrialize Germany. By the way the Berlin plant was also shut down for 2 weeks because the Suez channel became blocked forcing the shipping supply to go around Africa. That implieda lck of spare parts, but also China produced Tesla's had many more cars held up in the logistic path for the same reason.
I can't help but think back to when the disrespectful delegates laughed in 2018 when warned by the second American prez in a row not to be too reliant on any single country for energy. They said it made their friendship stronger.
The political aspect is the CDU/CSU taking the budget to the Constitutional Court. Arguing that Global Warming isn't an emergency. An interpretation that the Ampel coalition depended on. But lets hope Germany can shut down its coal power plants by 2030. Good luck!
@@justinr9753 yes, that was dumb. At least the Greens and to some extent the FDP opposed dependency on too much Russian gas. It's a little unfair that they get into the government coalition just in time to deal with the consequences.
No, customers ARE saying they don't want an electric car. When they make that statement though it's not just the item they mean, they're talking about the whole shebang. I don't want a Rolls Royce, why not? Because it costs too much to run.
Bad research here. Domestic solar power in Germany is relatively insignificant, if you had ever visited you would know why. Wind is by far and away the country's largest source of renewable energy (4-5 times as much wind as solar). Solar counts for only a little more than burning wood chips (something Germany counts as renewable but most people consider a bad idea). The country also relies on nuclear power imported from France and Sweden to balance its network. Some solar power though does make its way to Germany from as far afield as Spain.
Believe Mark. Solar is thriving in Germany, despite the bad weather, well exceeding the original expansion goals in 2023. +14.6 GW installed in 2023, in total more than 82 GW installed base now! Don't understand how anyone could call this insignificant.
The updated Tesla model 3 has alienated a lot of mainstream buyers with some of their improvements like removing the blinker stalk. Many will wait to see what the competition will bring out, which could hurt tesla sales. I hope they learn to stop alienating the mass market.
If they go wrong EV's are difficult to fix , especially out of warranty. Still not enough trained mechanics. Often, you have to go to the main dealer . Often car not worth fixing.
@dogsbodyish8403 . In Guardian there are two examples of Renault Zoes being written off. One being 5 years old £30k new , out of warranty. A heater fault occurred 9k to fix. Car was only worth 5k. This is not unusual.
@@johnh1872 Renault should be ashamed of themselves - a transparent rip-off. Remind me not to buy a Renault (actually I did once, it developed a gearbox fault and it couldn't be fixed because the part had been discontinued - so the car was scrapped).
Buy EV that has years of record of high reliability. My 2018 Tesla Model 3 84k has no issues for 5.5 years. (Formal BMW owners that had many parts failing)
@Trust_but_Verify . I wouldn't buy an ICE BMW . Little chance I'd buy a EV BMW. The problem with Tesla is maintenance. It's expensive and there aren't any independent garages. Tesla has not released any diagnostic info. I'll wait and see who is reliable and who offers best after care.
All Legacy car makers are in desperate trouble, so you can see why they want someone else to solve the problem for them. The only things they can do are to slow the pace of change. However, Tesla and Chinese manufacturers are not going to slow down one bit while the Legacy car makers are trying to avoid the inevitable changes. Telsa has started something that's absolutely unstoppable, and it's going to be carnage for much of the industry who just can't get their act together.
Sam, here in the UK the reason why many people are no longer buying EVs is because people simply don’t trust their governments. With an electric car they fear that they can just be shutdown or control where and when you can drive. People don’t want anything that can be accessed over the air and assume petrol/diesel cars offer them the freedom to go anywhere at anytime. They haven’t really considered the fact that modern cars are just as susceptible to over the air control, Road sign recognition and automatic vehicle control are already in all new cars as a requirement to meet EU legislation.
I believe many ice vehicles can be controlled over the air also. I know that doors can be unlocked, for instance, if you lock yourself out. I am guessing that perhaps engines could be prohibited from starting very easily also. I don’t know if that is done right now, but it could be easily implemented if big brother wanted to.
OTA software updates are not the sole province of EVs! I think most new cars these days have this (useful) feature - but you could view the country of origin a reason for suspicion...
It’s all lobbyists Detroit and Europe, I don’t own one , I don’t have stock, manufacturers can’t compete with the highest rated car on the planet. All bad press because the wealthiest man bought twitter and took their brain washing toy away
All VW plants around the world are unionized. The only time they're not is when Republican politicians convince the poorly educated that it's a bad idea for them. 🤭
Seems like most companies that lost money on every sale of their product would stop making that product. At this time there are only a small number of people and locations that an EV are practical for. People are also finding out that buying an EV to demonstrate their virtue costs them a lot more in time and inconvenience than the virtue points are worth.
Hahaha bring back incentives for something that’s booming 😂 This reminds me of another incentive based product a few years aho.. it was so popular, people were harassed, bribed, tricked and blackmailed to take this product.. funny how now there is no “incentives”, no one is taking the product 😁
Month to month fluctuations are nothing new. The long term trend is up. Negatives, disruptions, vandalism, winter performance issues, incentives removed. All will be resolved long term. It's not worth being overly concerned about. It will ultimately still be cheaper to operate an EV than an ICE vehicle. That's all one needs to know. Long term it's an EV future, not an ICE one. Near term more hybrids for sure, but long term it's EV. Hydrogen ( the also ran ) wont even get a look in.
All subsidies and tax incentives should be removed from EV’S. In addition all subsidies and tax breaks should be removed from the petroleum industry and taxes should be implemented to capture the health costs caused by the particulates in tailpipe emissions and the refining process that is leading to many premature deaths. The grid and renewable energy should be subsidized which will drive the cost of electricity down. At that point let the consumer decide which vehicle is best.
German government is acting responsibly, tell me, why should they subsidize a development that is killing German auto and hence their own stream of income?
Incentives were cut because the government faced a huge budget shortfall due to the Supreme Court striking down a scheme to use Corona money for environmental protection. That is the real reason!
@@user-wjl1568 Pollution is secondary these days, survival always has top priority, for anyone. Seeing how other major car manufacturers like Toyota are handling the EV transition, why should the Germans then commit hara-kiri? Finally, they are not banning EV's, they just don't want to give away thousands of Euro for each EV sold (often exported anyway by the buyer and with a potential of being a Chinese brand) and then at the same time cut down on vital expenditures like military (due to Russia's aggressive behavior) and basic welfare. Get the picture?
your second answer is never mentioned. people have access to information. I think some of us advocates bragged too much about how cheap EVs would become. obviously these companies more early adopters to pay high prices to pay for the transition. also, sad that the west and China cannot be peace to tackle climate change together.
@@kurtlowder3276 Yes I don't have to just parrot what the video says. EVs are literally becoming cheaper even this year. BYD for example are getting their more efficiency battery in cars this year. NIO also has solid state while means you can have smaller ones at lower cost for similar range.
@@kurtlowder3276 Countries don't need to be 'at peace' to tackled climate change together. China is rushing forward on that track on their own steam and all industrialised countries can do the same. If they refuse to and use 'hostilities' as a reason that's just a poor excuse.
@@kurtlowder3276You are exactly right there. You fanbois definitely convinced me to hold off on buying an EV until all the improvements you have been claiming come to fruition. Why on earth would I buy an EV now that will be obsolete next week or next year.
@@JohnSmith-ux3ttwhy did you buy Nokia (or other button phone in 90’s and early 2000s) and let phone mature into something that we get today? We have a short life and we want to enjoy the good experiences as much as we can. I bought model 3 4 years ago. Even though it has gone cheaper over time (like all technologies do), atleast I enjoyed that leap into future for 4 years of my life. In fact I sold my other ICE car 6 months after Model 3 because I know I am never going back to ICE. But you won’t know this feeling till you have driven Tesla yourself for few weeks.
It doesn't suprise me. People are waking up to the disaster of EV's. A customer here in the UK has received an £11,000 bill for fixing the heater in her Renault Zoe EV that is only 5 years old. So with her car worth £5000 it will be scrapped! Renault had refused to fix her car under warranty. EV is an ecological disaster, they will only last 5-8 years compared to 20 years for a Petrol car. My petrol Rover is 25 years old and will last till I give up driving! Fact.
Fossile cars are subsidized $28.125 through oil. The oil subsidies are forcasted $9.000.000.000.000, or more than $1.000. (Up from $7T 2023). People have to pay this through higher taxes, and more expensive food, clothes, homes and all other things. Then fossile car owners are hostages of a corrupt cartel with mostly dictatorships. So, an EV should be subsidized at least $30.000 to have a fair competition.
Germany would need to pay the subsidies directly to the auto manufacturers like China does. By rewarding the car buyer, who then buys a Chinese car, the German government is subsidising a Chinese manufacturer that's already received payments from Beijing.
They should just reopen the previously closed nukes. Such a waste to lose that energy source. But they will never admit to error, pretty stubborn really.
Tesla has to start ramping up service infrastructure and bring the cost of repairs down... which in turn should lower insurance costs... should be a win win right? This has to happen if EVs want to gain mainstream adoption... as people are catching on to the hidden longer term costs... that EVERYONE has been fudging over...
Thanks Torben; well that is correct German economy is bad; interest rates are high; but cutting "incentives" which is really giving money from one tax payer to another to buy a vehicle; ended requiring people to shell out many thousands more if they want an EV. Add to that; EVs are impactical if you do not have a garage to charge at; which most gerrmans don't, and you have a totally impractical solution at a higher cost; with little chance of recouping that cost with home charging.
Ex are too expensive. The average car sold in EU looks like VW T-ROC, Renault Clio. This are 25k euro cars. An EV with autonomy around 500 km is around 40k. I think cars like Renault 5 are a better option. You pay around 25k for around the city car. For now EVs are cars for upper middle class who buy them for status.
Because of all the people (and media) who continually claim the competition is coming for Tesla, though they never mention who that competition is. Even in America, where Tesla has no competition, and legacy auto continues to decrease their EV production.
The competition absolutely has gained ground on Tesla. Tesla has shed a ton if market share mainly because Elons emotional need to jump into every social and political firestorm.
@@geelangfordo3272Keep telling yourself the competition is gaining ground on Tesla. The top two selling cars in Europe are the Model Y & 3. And the major reason sales in Europe are down from last year is because Germany dropped its EV incentives.
@@geelangfordo3272I was responding to your idea that the competition is gaining ground. Of course, you don’t mention who is gaining ground on Tesla in Europe or how with some facts. And as for market share, I don’t think you even understand how market share works. If company A is the only one selling in a market, then they will have 100% market share. As soon as company B sells one EV in that market, then company A will have lost market share. As more companies sell more EVs in Europe it stands to reason that nearly every one of the market leaders will lose market share. So, your argument is what’s known as a red herring (aka distraction) since Tesla is selling every one of its cars made in Europe.
But costs are coming down, not the reverse - which would usually result in increasing, not decreasing sales. Except that price deflation is a reason for putting off purchase - which is probably what's happening here, coupled with subsidy removal.
Stellantis says that battery weight needs to be halved within the next decade. Current electric vehicles are too heavy and unsafe as far as combustion goes. It's not a good thing to be forced into a technology that isn't ready. There's a lot of talk about solid state batteries and I'm sure they exist in prototype form, manufacturing the same is the bottleneck.
The German car industry can only slow down the switch to electric cars to a degree, but they risk losing competitiveness with the car companies that are going all in on electric cars. It's going to happen regardless of what the German car industry or government wants, so it makes more sense to push hard on being competitive in the EV industry, otherwise, they are going to end up in a situation where they lose market share around the world and in Europe as consumers end up buying more EV's from rival carmakers, a lot of which probably don't care if it's a German car or not, just as long as the quality is good and the price is right, China with BYD sees that, hence why they are being aggressive on reducing pricing. History has shown that anytime an old industry tries to slow or stop a new better industry from taking off, the old industry usually always losses, either by massively being downsized or even going bankrupt, I suspect some could go bankrupt, but many will likely be downsized if they don't wake up to the new reality that newer companies are going all in on EV cars and will end up taking over the car industry if the old industry doesn't wake up and adapt, either way, it's happening regardless of what the old industry wants, so it makes more sense to adapt, get onboard and compete in the EV market. Also, this all sounds like month-to-month fluctuations that's happening in Germany and I think overall, EV sales are on the increase, probably better to look on a yearly basis.
So...people who think about sitting on top of thousands of pounds of unstable chemicals while hurtling along uneven, dirty paths has nothing to do with the plummeting sales of EV's? How about the terrible range in winter? The ability for someone other than the car owner to shut the car down while the owner is operating it? Or the extreme time required to charge the batteries? Or the dangers of being stuck with strangers while charging? Wake up. Batteries are not the future. Nor even the present. Why not use alcohol? A fuel that anyone can safely make themselves. That burns clean, doesn't pollute the environment if it spills. Fires can be easily put out with water because ethanol is water soluble, non toxic, renewable...but almost impossible for governments to control us if we think a bit...
@@jaaklucas1329 biobutanol is the fuel i come up with. Now you come up with the production method that is realistic and sustainable and economical and we'll be rich.
VW has a lot of employees(VOTERS )and if they want the government to reduce incentives that’s probably going to happen. I hate the way my TSLA stock is going! I just need to live long enough for it to turn around, and I plan on that.
I don't the incentives will return but not need. Every time this has happened before has been a short term effect. In 2025 if not just last quarter, sells will raise again.
Without subsidies EVs would be a niche purchase for the wealthy, but the rich don't care about gasoline costs. EV subsidies are a wealth transfer from the poor and working class to high income owners. Tesla must find à way to sell new EVs at the cost of a used RAV4
Good God how many times can you post the same nonsense in every video. The same trolling nonsense. Don't you get bored? Don't you think you might say something different? Or are you just a bot
@@yulusleonard985 Gasoline subsidies are a canard. They are almost exclusively in very poor countries, where both food and energy are generally subsidized to keep the people from rioting. In the developed world, they are almost non-existent. There are no special gasoline subsidies in the US. Sometimes, externalities, like pollution, are considered "subsidies", but you could claim that about EVs (for the extra mineral mining, and manufacturing energy) also.
@@dzcav3 "Developed" word like USA subsidy their oil companies instead consumption. Japan and Europe directly subsidy consumption and I dont see them as poor.
Why? Even my 10 year old batteries are still in good shape and provide all the power I need for driving. Why wait for a quantum computer when you need to do calculations now?
@@dirkvornholt2507 it enables the EV to have a higher range, over 1000km, and it’s coming soon. I saw the news release of a Chinese company having a prototype of 720 kWh/kg.
@manimalworks7424 It's 720Wh/kg, not kWh/kg. Sure, that might enable even more EVs to fulfill some extreme driving profile needs, but most people don't have such extreme needs. It's just like with computers today. If you need a computer now, it makes no sense to wait for the next generation. It also makes no sense to buy an abacus (ICE car) unless you're a collector of antique technology. The wonder batteries are more like a promise to delay energy transition than a thing that hits the market soon. Certainly batteries are improving, but there are more dimensions than just energy density to focus on. (Longevity, price, charge rates, power rates, cold performance, safety, availability of resources, etc.) Most improvements in battery technology are evolutionary, not revolutionary.
If EV’s do not sell without taxpayer funded subsidies, maybe the obvious answer is simply the right one - people do not want the contraptions as they are demonstrably inferior to ICE cars in almost every way.
Similar to the false economy surrounding ICE cars when the US taxpayer funds a limitless private security US Navy escort for worldwide oil shipments. If the US taxpayer did not artificially support the world oil industry with exclusive private security gasoline would be much much more expensive than it is now. Likely around $10/gallon.
I guess you're leaving out to 6 to 7 trillion dollars in fossil fuel subsidies worldwide? Fossil fuel subsidies are okay but propping up electric vehicles with~$ 200 million that's not free market capitalism 😂😂😂😂😂😂This is an utterly clueless and ignorant statement
I work on electric cars and have been for the past 6 years. They are great if it's a lease and you have a stage 2 charger in your garage. However you never want to be on the hook when the battery goes out. The money you will be saving you will put into tires and a new battery at the end of ownership. Right now a car payment on a high end electric car is 1300 plus interstate so let's say you pay 1500 a month after interest vs a car if the same size for 800 or 900 but you will pay for oil changes, fluid flushed and the occasional mechanical repair every few years. The amount you save is astronomical over the long term. Imagine you are the second owner and just paid off your electric car you are out of warranty and your battery decides to go out rendering the car a big paperweight. You call your dealership and have your car looked it and they quote you$30,000 to $50,000 depending on the manufacturer for a new old stock battery that's been sitting on the shelf for 7years. You ask the dealership how much it will cost to trade in the car and they said as it sits $1,500 towards a new car, this price is what copart will pay to haul off the car to the auction block. The dealership does not want that car on their lot. This will be the future, true throw away cars. None of the electronics can be recycled because the electronics even headlights are Vin seared and cannot be reused. I will continue to drive my gas car until the wheels fall off. Then I'll buy another one.
You can get a new battery into a 10 year old Leaf for €5-10k, depending on battery size. You can get an EV here for under €200 per month. If you can charge at home and plan on buying a new car anyway, an EV is a no brainer unless you're doing long distance driving all the time. It costs me €1.20 to drive 100km with home charging. It used to cost me €11. In addition, the electricity here is produced locally. It's about 35% renewable, and increasing every year. Why would I want to pay for the import and refinement of oil? I also don't want to deal with timing belts, clutches, spark plugs, oil changes, radiator leaks, EGR valves and all the other stuff. Not polluting the local air in our city is another benefit. Petrol isn't too bad, but the smoke some diesels spew is bad. Just to let you know, I speak from experience of owning both types of cars, with ICE for most of my life. They're more fun around a race track and I like the sound of a V8 or 2 litre turbo, but I can have one as a hobby car. EVs are simply better for everyday use, no question.
@@rlsedition Semi trucks are more important to get clean to me. If you think cars are though turn your car on in your closed garage and see how you make out. Then multiply that by 1.5 billion worldwide.
So... The only reason anyone buys an EV is because they're subsidised? Any other calculation inevitably leads to a different conclusion? You may be onto something there... The only reason they sell so well in Norway is the tax breaks and subsidies on offer,
