The Real Reason The U.S. Doesn’t Want Chinese EVs 

That is why US auto makers were no longer competitive as they were too spoiled for competition. As a matter of fact, the whole of all US industry become inefficient due to this.

And over production 😂

@@marvinfok65Please, Western automakers showed Chinese how to make cars. Now the Chinese govt is heavily subsidizing EV’s up and down the entire supply chain so they can take over the entire industry. Western govts are catching on now after they did this to solar and 5G networks using Huawei. Now educate yourself next time.

@marvinfok65 what are talking about the US is best producer of hydrocarbons. Best maker of military equipment. Best maker of computer programs. Biggest companies in world are computer programs maker Microsoft, Meta , Alphabet ,Amazon

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🤣 So true. 😂

Pretty sure them golfcarts are made in China as well 😂

Down-payment on $70000 truck!

@@mikhailmamontov2155 I'd be shocked if those truck drivers actually managed to put 16k down for their trucks 😮

A Nissan Versa with manual transmission is under 16k, and it saves you from the terrible Nissan CVT transmission .

You must be Chinese

If it wasn’t for unions they would be able to compete 😂

@@ericp4573Tesla has no unions and China does have unions

This, is the America definition of ‘free trade’. 🤣🤣

​@@ericp4573that's the dumbest thing I have read today

and factories with safety nets to stop the mass suicides ... but hey, if that it the world you want to live in... by all means move to CCP with a 12 hour day 6 days a week work schedule.

​@@jeremytine XD, do you think car production is all hand-me-downs these days? welcome to the era of automation bro!

@@user-lk7tf2qg3m i guess that is why BYD has 704k employees to produce 3 million cars in 2023, because robots do everything? While Volkswagen sold 10.9 million with 684k people. 😉

​@@jeremytine@jeremytine 12 hours? Have you ever been to a Chinese car factory? It's 24/7 full automation.

@@leeway777 and yet BYD employs 704,000 meatbots 🤔

Toyota ended up building large plans in US and Canada

​​@@zeusmultirotor8479 but if make Toyota lost profit and sale to American company Which is not able to compete in terms of quality. In 1990 Japan's Minimum wages were higher than those of the United States but their cars were cheaper

bull*hit. It's because China forced US car companies to partner with Chinese auto companies in order to sell there...then they ripped off the US manufacturer tech to build their own car companies. Now on the other end, they are going to get a tariff in order to sell here. It's Mano et Mano. If the Chinese dont like it, they dont have to sell here. It is what it is

American car companies just increased their prices but people still bought the Japanese cars because they were superior.

@@zeusmultirotor8479the usa forced them too, look at the plaza accord as well

Oil industry needs to go broke, so that evs can flourish.

​@@earlvarner9479So you want to live on a cave? Interesting.

Bingo, you got it.

​@@earlvarner9479 how? planes and ships would need a different fuel anyways

Buddy, every thing you touch, from the tooth brush to the tooth brushing paste tube to the switch on your room to the clothes you wear to the shoes you wear are all made from petroleum. Granted gasoline takes around 30% of oil consumption, the rest grows at fast pace, oil companies are here to stay.

BYD does have factory(s) in US to make electric buses for US market for a while. Because big size vehicles have fewer restrictions and more relaxed regulations toward them in US. That's why you see pickup trucks are being made bigger and bigger nowadays.

Woah didn't know this😮

American auto makers where is our small affordable evs?.

BYD bus factory already in Los Angeles for over 10 years, however the cars never existed in the USA

@@weizhang2834 So why is the media brainwashing us into believing that BYD is not allowed in the USA? Polestar/Volvo are in the USA and is 100% Chinese company. They claim free market capitalism, and the moment China defeats them on the market, they turn into protectionists.

Europe follow USA master orders, same with Canada, but worse, no a single Chinese car seen here, just sad.

Exactely !

Does China have a protectionist economy? Can you import vehicles from North America?

@@12time12 R u joking? Ford and GMs are everywhere in the China

Gm ford and tesla all sell cars in China its one of their biggest markets

@@12time12 Of course,but vehicles are still imported. Currently, the import tax rate for cars in China is 25%, planned to be reduced to 15%. There are many American cars in China, with most mainstream models manufactured domestically and a few high-end models imported. I recall that about one-third of GM's sales are in China

@@12time12lol your ignorance made me laugh

our govt doesnt subsidize chinese EV companies, but subsidize consumers consumers get all sort of refund/convenience

We want rules for them, but not for us :)

no. They are not subsidized in the US.

Our Chinese government subsidizes all electric vehicles, whether they are from the United States or Japan. The United States prohibits Chinese electric vehicles, let alone subsidies.

@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m yes American car makers are getting subsidized, Yellen even admitted it

Nailed it!

I was going to say "optimised" But same difference.

The Chinese monopolize them, that’s the difference.

Average westoid logic ​@@jalend9974

@@jalend9974 Pretty sure the point of the video is that America is trying to monopolise EVs in the US by forbidding fair competition from abroad. The Chinese have no such rules, they're just creating lots of competing EVs in their own country that happen to be far more affordable than what the US can make. No monopoly necessary when you have strong manufacturing. American must have forgotten about that after they offshored all their factories to Asia without expecting any consequences from that decision.

Gotta love leftists who suddenly love Reagan “muh free trade” just because it’s China. Those of us on the left who hate free trade are at least consistent. PS - if China won’t allow cars made in the U.S. to enter, why do you suddenly require that the U.S. allow Chinese cars? Haha, hypocrite. 🤡

"Folks, do you want Xi in your car with you 24/7" 🤣

@@wenerjyI don’t mind if cars are cheap. I think Xu is too busy to care my daily business

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Always has been

That's why China had a 100% tariff on car imports at one time and has since lowered it to 25%. Apparently it didn't hurt their competitiveness so your logic is flawed.

@@someuser7501tariffs does work but it is a sign of weak local businesses. Back in the days when China is weak at automotive manufacturing they put tariffs at 100% and now much lowered. Tariffs just hurt the consumers and benefits the local manufacture.

@user-li8cc9nk1h yes and right now the auto companies outside of China are weak when it comes to making EVs. Only Tesla is making a profit selling EVs while everybody else is so far behind they lose money on any EVs they sell.

America is a big hypocrite.

The government wants people to pay More ! Protectionism for the US auto makers. They want profits without innovations.

Cars in general

The government is owned by corporations

Yet doesn't invest in public transportation

@@ALV694that’s a feature not a flaw.

It seems this is the route they are taking. Unfortunately, in the developing world people don't want $100,000 full size SUVs and pick up trucks. This is the same mistake they made in the 1970s. Japan was producing cheaper cars with things like ABS and traction control, while American brands were focused on luxury.

@@bubba842 THIS!!! My thoughts exactly! American car manufacturers have learned absolutely nothing. You would think that after Japan dominated the 90’s they would’ve “got it together”, but it seems they continue making the same mistakes. Japan has been dominating for decades, because they give the people what they want.

Basic or uncomfortable cars don't sell well in USA. Most buyers expect a decent amount of features and comfort even on a cheap car or commercial vehicle.

CEO’s and wealthy are afraid of competition.

How is the Corolla Cross outdated?

​@@re4796you might think Corolla Cross looks modern inside out, but when you compare it with the latest models of Chinese major EV brands then you see the difference.

@@dwchen1 the difference being?

​@@re4796corolla cross is not even a plug-in hybrid, look at Song plus, its another level. You can charge baterry and drive eletric mode for short routes that most people actually use cars for, the mileage is also far better compared and price is about the same. BYD is destroying the competition, even GWM another manufacturer is doing the same with H6 phev.

​@@re4796corolla cross is not even a plug-in hybrid, look at Song plus, its another level. You can charge baterry and drive eletric mode for short routes that most people actually use cars for, the mileage is also far better compared and price is about the same. BYD is destroying the competition, even GWM another manufacturer is doing the same with H6 phev.

The wierd things is the science and tech come from advanced country like us.... yet now this happen.... One thing for sure race to the bottom ia bad forbhumanity😅

And we also refused to build out our public transit systems, in some cases making it illegal to do so. Can't afford to drop $50,000-$70,000 on a new car? Then suffer.

It's not about competion is about Chinese destroying your market and ask yourself this why Chinese bans American products but when you ban theirs they star saying you are afraid of competion

@@JoeRogan-fanpageI don’t remember China banning iPhone, like how the US banned Huawei😅

@@JoeRogan-fanpage Tesla, Ford, GM all sell their cars in China. Its their 2nd largest market

It's vertical integration, almost all parts are produce themselves, so, everything is more efficient, cheap, and faster to produce!

And subsidies

They even own their own lithium mines and cargo ships to save on transport and materials.

Even at the end of his video, he doesn't get to the point.

USA started to look like CUBA

It will be so terrible when “they” force affordable clean and more reliable cars on everyone. Won’t anyone think of Saudi Aramco, British Petroleum, Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron and ExxonMobil? How are they going to keep making all that money from us 😢.

The diferrence that Cuba is blocked by US while US is blocking itsels

@@Takudza they have no problem selling oil, china buys all the available oil, if the us doesn't need it more left for china.

Maybe in a timeline where Cash for Clunkers and the auto industry haven't already massacred the used market.

First, Tesla. Now, Chinese EVs. Two moments of GM regrets. They could've innovate & dominate, instead they went back to milking the old cow... and now that cow is dying.

Same problem with American companies for planes and trains as with autos. Let alone so many “American” vehicles aren’t made in the USA, or are mostly made of imported parts. All year long it’s been constant bad news about Boeing. Meanwhile there isn’t a single American-based company producing passenger trains. The bad business model is a systemic failure.

Probably worth nothing Japanese Car makers seem to have fallen into the same trap with regard to China. Toyota prefer to spend big money on peddling FUD and trying to convince everyone Hydrogen cars are the way to go. Yeah, that's never gonna happen. Why not just do what they will have to do anyway and build affordable EVs that don't need dealerships, servicing and will bankrupt the Petro Chemical Industry. Err....

Actually, BYD is the brand that sells more EVs and Hybrid cars. The top-ranking hybrid plug-in car is BYD Song Plus @ USD 46,000.

US politicians are mostly lawyers in addition to being old. They only understand how to lie to us to get re-elected.

The irony that the new Apple update or iOS copies a lot of new features from Android which is way cheaper. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

Not really Most EV drivers Charge at Night when Demand is low and so is the Price.. And studies have shown that it wouldn't take that long to upgrade or add extra capacity

@aaronparys1750 Studies ? By the same people who studied war against Russia, China. How well are these going ? Snow storms blackouts heat waves blackouts we really can go on and on. Well keep on believing while our infrastructure is crumbling all around us 👍

Most EV charging stations are powered by fossil fuels (Coal, oil, and natural gas) It's not about the power grid and electricity demands. The U.S power grid could easily handle the latest addition of all these new e-appliances, skyscrapers, single family homes, casinos, mega-factories, and military technologies but all of sudden it won't be able to handle EV infrastructure? If that was the case then why would the U.S be pushing EVs? The only obstacle to this are Big-Oil lobbies and the loss of profit transitioning from Gas to Electric.

Alright then. Let’s remove some of the immense tax breaks from the oil industry and use that tax money to build out the grid.

You mean if we swapped out 100% of our vehicles for EVs tomorrow. But neither can Brazil's or China's either.

Humble doesn't exist in American dictionary

@@ALV694 Agreed - the US isn't going to be humbled.

@@ALV694 not yet....

@@ALV694 it will be included, wait and watch. USA will eat humble pies.

Americans would rather bury their heads in the sand than eat humble pie. We are raised to think that we are the only country that matters.

True. I'm not sure that handing the entire car industry over to China is in the USA's best interest.

@@davidgmaloofso innovate. Make cheaper more affordable EVs rather the grotesque high margin gas guzzlers you Americans love so much.

@@Takudza What’s wrong with big cars, and why would Americans care what anyone else thinks?

@@davidgmaloof you are the one worrying about the Chinese taking over the car industry. They are doing it by producing higher quality at lower prices. The fact that the US has to resort to tariffs to protect an industry that’s refusing to innovate should worry you.

The US (and most other producing nations) caused this to happen by outsourcing everything for cheap labor. In search of the bottom dollar, they ended up losing their manufacturing capacity and now they have nothing but tariffs. China meanwhile, used the opportunity to become a superpower.

“Muh free trade” is a worse choice.

They won't do anything anyways, they'll just delay the inevitable unless the US autos actually innovate and rapidly catch up.

​@@12time12 No, tarrifs are the worst choice. The only benefit would be to create more domestic jobs, increase revenue for domestic automotive companies/workers, and evolve our automotive industry. However, all these benefits become void if the U.S and these companies refuse to decently pay/hire more workers, innovate the automotive industry, and produce affordable EVs rather instead of solely expensive EVs that can only be purchased through leases with high interest rates. If they can't do that then people will simply stop buying cars and the industry will crash. Tarrifs are just passed onto the consumer and if there isn't decent domestic competition then tarrfifs just hurt the consumer especially if the economy is the way it is now.

@@pill5384yes, I’m familiar with Laissez Faire economics. These companies aren’t just sitting on their hands, they are mobilizing to improve their vehicles. Future battery technology is being researched by all 26 National Labs, including the famed Los Alamos. We would be sitting pretty if the last guy in the White House didn’t install his oil industry minions who essentially halted research and sold off our battery patents to other nations. I’m not sorry, tariffs are a great choice to protect jobs when sound policy is used to bolster R&D. Environmentalists and globalization advocates may cry tears of green, but they’ll live. I’d also like to point out that our subsidies are paid on customer delivery, China is paying out a subsidy upon completion of the vehicle at OEM. This encourages dumping. I have no problem with China setting up manufacturing that meets USMCA regulations in the USA, I would even buy one. Their favorite phrase is “win-win cooperation”, that doesn’t mean China wins twice. 🙂

If it's the quality that they are worrying about, realize most of the American cars were made from Mexico. Worse than chinese

Or, and I know it's a crazy idea, build out a robust public transit system such that you don't need to drop $20,000 just to participate in greater society.

@@traviskitteh wait until you see the invasion of chinese ultra cheap electric passenger aerial vehicles

They can build cars for less than 19K but they do not want to ! They like high profit instead and less units (less labor cost) instead less profit and higher production (more workers to pay)

Unions will make sure that doesn't happen.

China should try to promote their own name brands instead of using partnerships to boost other peoples brands😅, otherwise the posers could pretend its theirs

​@@NeostormXLMAX There is a lot of stigma against Chinese brands, which is why they use this strategy.

Exactly. The low maintenance of EVs is what attracts me most. There’s always something that needs getting fixed on my Honda Accord.

Hybrids are another stalling tactic that will fail. Either go full ev and compete, or dont and slowly fade into nothing. Tariffs only affect the american consumer, but also gets the votes for the politicians !

No, next time China will say you can't eat egg rolls from the USA because they use real meat😂😂😂😂

@@RacerX1971 Only one country sanctions when they can't compete...and it ain't China....

I would say the difference is that other “Chinese” options like food employ US workers and are made here. Chinese automakers are trying to import their cars without bringing jobs here. I’m sure if they manufactured them here rather than in sweatshops their prices would be nowhere near as low. Maybe still lower, but then at that rate it’s like the video said they would much rather just export to the rest of the world’s economies.

@@RacerX1971 this is extremely racist and sinophobic

@@NissocoMC , go on youtube and see them making fake meat, fake rice, fake etc..they even paint their pigs black so that they could sell it for more. Btw, I'm part Chinese.

Well you see if I am not mistaken China was paying the manufacturer a certain amount for each car sold while the US is offering tax credits to the buyer. Functionally it is a government subsidy either way but the US gets to claim it isn't subsidizng because the money isn't going directly to the manufacturer. Things can also get murkier as mentioned in a video by Mentor Pilot. The government funds NASA and NASA has a joint project with Boeing. Similar thing with Airbus. Who is or isn't subsidized? Increasingly it just seems like China is terrible at hiding these sort of things and having plausible deniability. I guess they are still learning.

​@@MorbidEel American "car companies" got $25 B$ stimulus to develop EVs. ( It was direct subsidizng from us Government) And what happened to that money? They buy back stocks and gave the money to the share holders. They have not used the money to develop EVs. China gave 3.6 B$ to BYD and they made better EV than Tesla :) So 25 B$ over 3.6 B$ (or maybe 10B $ for all the Chinese companies, but still far less than US) Know your Facts !

@@petardetar5191 Didn't know about that. I think Verizon did a similar thing for rolling out fiber internet. Although they at least made a show of trying to do it.

finally someone talking with sense

Aided by massive subsidies and cheap labor costs etc

Also stealing tech with espionage and legally hiring up car managers

@@AusDemSchneider China doesn't need to steal tech when Tesla doesn't patent their inventions and Tesla has a Gigafactory in Shanghai.

​@@AusDemSchneiderAmerica was giving subsidies too, but apparently not in a way that would actually grow an EV industry. Perhaps the oil companies have too much influence in the US, compared to China

theyve pulled out of europe and will soon pull out of china.. its a longtime coimg

That tells you something,the u.s is scared to death

We make up our own facts, thank you!

Why? Americans are not in love with EVs.

America is a continent

Free market ended in 2012 when NASA had their entire research archives stolen.

Tesla's entire profit last year including China, USA, Europe was 15 Billion, where did you get 21 Billion from?

@@amols101he didnt say in what currency duh..are you sIow?

@@orangedeelerbut the audience is mostly Americans and the company in question are American, are you slow?

the fall of chinese Ming and Qing dynasties, and the Japanese medieval era, the american Great Depression and the starting of outsourcing jobs in America are all because of protectionism and tariff chinese govt knows how bad protectionism is, so as to keep market open as much as possible

something the west never know, in the past 2000 years, the nations and races around China always launched trade wars against China and these nations basically disappeared in history shortly after they launched trade war against China China only lost trade war once in last 2000 years....

and the last thing is China is seeking win-win cooperation with other countries Chinese EVs or companies cooperate with many foreign companies so many foreign companies are benefiting when US banned chinese products, they are blocking these non chinese, non american companies too this gives the world a very bad signal/ impression of US in so many levels

The issue is that China literally perpetuates propaganda. So even this unbiased take giving them their due, is still based on propaganda

Theoretically we vote for Congress and the president but they don't ask us what we want.

There are multiple options. Yangwang U8, Huawei M9, Lixiang L9. etc etc

You are in a very tiny minority and niche market. Most people live in urban large cities and they don't travel more than 50 kms per day.

@@canalesjuan356 By next year, EVs with the range of 2000+ KM per refuel, will come to the market Not even gasoline cars have that kind of range !

@@verypleasantguy And that is when i will buy one. But right now, when it comes to range, the American EVs are inferior. Sorry to say but long range is reserved for gas cars only.... hopefully for now.

@@verypleasantguy Great!! Now that's what im talkin about!! This is what im waiting for. Till that day, im going to leave well enough alone...

Yes, Tesla sent several hundreds Chinese workers to their Texas manufacture to teach American workers to increase productivity. US workers become lazy with high demands.

Better technology ... have you seen the number of EV blowing up in China, rear axles falling off due to lousy components, etc. , etc.

​@@user-ei1ct4gn7s lol and don't spend on R&D because they steal everything

​@@user-ei1ct4gn7s Have you ever been to China? Don't act like a BBC CNN fed 🤡

I don't think Chinese workers are more efficient than Americans at all. At least the company I worked for, we moved all Chinese HVAC production (Midea Industries) to our US factories from 2014 to 2018. Best decision ever, especially after how China bungled COVID in 2020. Our US competitors still made their products in China and Mexico and were decimated by supply chain issues during Covid. We kept on building in the US and grabbed market share and created thousands of new US jobs. De-risking China can be done!

Tesla is an American company competing directly with Chinese companies in China.

Tesla even open sourced their patents years ago to kickstart the American auto industry. Still way behind ...

Many other factors besides wages.

US auto workers make a lot more than $18/hour.

you should also know the living cost in china. all basic need, education, and transportation are cheap.

Where did you get the $18.00 an hour figure? Nobody would do that job for that money! Maybe $30.00! Even that is only $1,200. a week!

And the fact is the 5$ an hour Chinese workers are making probably has more purchasing power than 18$ an hour American workers are getting.

Those incomes are very, very cheap by US standards.

@@davidgmaloof still much higher than Indians or Vietnamese. So US should prevent the influx of Indian and Vietnamese cars

@@yeetian2774 why are you attacking india? We are also a developing country that has suffered just like China, but you and people from China treat us like enemies and savages. Shame on you for preaching about protecting the developing world and then looking down on a developing country!

The usa income is comparably higher because of the currency rates, and also due to its own economy. But it doesn’t have to be that high actually. So in fact American workers could had been more competitive if the policies are correct

Things are being made in China because of the local expertise. There's an interesting video (from Vox or Cheddar) in which they explain that manufacturing phones in the US on a large scale is not possible because there isn't enough skilled workers and engineers.

They are now competitive in Europe. That means they perform as well as other cars in European safety testing. That doesn’t mean they will meet US standards, but that’s a business decision for them and not any technical shortcoming.

Don't worry, as far as i was informed these BYD cars are way superior in quality than American ones if not all of them.

In fact, Chinese auto workers earn between $20,000-$24,000 a year, and the source of the information is the Chinese network!

Nah. USA subsidies its industries all the time, how often have us airlens or car manufacturers gone bust, almost weekly. China is a capitalist state the USA is a soclaist state. China operates a free market the USA does not. Chinese cars are just better made, in far better factories due to investment. The Chinese c suite is not only interested in stock option prices unlike the USA. USA greed culture is destroying us manufacturing and nothing else. Take responsibility for your culture of greed and not investing. Look at Boeing as perhaps the best example of the us greed culture.

So are you implying that the Chinese are forcing the Americans to print more money and harvest wealth using dollars from all over the world? How ironic😅

Chinese workers have much more purchasing power for their money than US workers for $, know your Facts ! Listen this and try to understand, under is Link, copy-paste and learn : “The U.S. Economy Is A HOUSE OF CARDS!” - Says El Salvador’s President

And the fact that they have the highest rates of catching fire. Chinese made equals garbage

@@ZoomZoomMX3,It's obvious that you have never seen a Chinese EV, which is top quality, high-tech, offers way more features, and are far more superior than Detroit made cars, and it's cheaper. Using 1 or 2 examples to paint a bad image of millions of their cars won't help you.

Tesla uses byd batteries on their cars because technological speaking they are way better 🤣🤣🤣😭💯

it doesn't, if you using an EV charger is take 20-30 minutes if your using a 110v outlet your probably charging overnight anyway

​@@ZoomZoomMX3 Cope. Biden wouldn't have imposed 100% tariff if they were garbage. They would be no threat to Detriot.

Wages are the biggest % In this. Plus Chinese companies are not private companies on the stock exchange, meaning that they don't add to add a margin for shareholders.