The Real Reason This Big Budget Disney Movie Failed So Spectacularly 

The Island. Could have been an intelligent, provocative sci fi drama but ended up being Bay-isms everywhere.

The Good Dinosaur An interesting scenario about the dinosaurs never going extinct, but it's put to the sidelines for a cliched "boy-and-his-dog" type story.

Harry Potter Movie 3 ruined the entire vision of the Harry Potter and the rest of the film Franchise. Very bad directing. We don’t need five shots of the tree!! The whole point was Subtlety. That’s why it was such a shock in the book. I have a top ten fail list, that’s the one that irks me most cause if they just stuck with the vision of the book like LOTRs it could’ve been better. Lol, just my opinion

Every star wars film since the original trio

I thought you were going to talk about the festival

I loved the concept of Hugh Laurie's character warning everyone about the apocalypse through various media.

@@michaelstrong5383 I agree. But even that point is criminally underdeveloped in the movie. The villian just _tells_ us about it, we never get to _see_ anything of it.

@@lonestarr1490 True. That should have been a movie on its own.

'Could've been iconic'??.. You mean if it had been a TOTALLY DIFFERENT movie??? Purile and pointless at best.

I think they failed in the marketing department

Just wasn't well executed.

This movie could've been a trilogy with so many stories in it. But they decided to cramp everything in one.

Yeah, that’s why the ending was so confusing too.

Yes

Yeah it was cool but tf happened

I think the message of the movie was very important too, and only has become more so since then.

@@RDeathmark really good point!

I remember I watched the movie when it first came out with my dad and brother. The three of us all really enjoyed the movie and agreed it was a good. We were shocked to hear when one of my dad’s coworkers went to watch it with his family and they all fell asleep in the theaters cuz it was boring.

I agree, I feel like the small minority that had a good time watching Tomorrowland

So that's why they have to make you rent or buy to watch it, to make up for their lost....smdh

I dunno, Clooney's clunky narration and the film's lack of momentum or action was really, really bad.

I agree. I really enjoyed it. it was a very unconventional movie, granted. But it could have done MUCH better with better marketing.

@@TheArtkaw Disney garbage ass live action movies are even badder than that.

It’s actually better than that diarrhea Jungle Cruise film

Ironically, as someone who really likes the movie I have the same opinion about the picture itself. They spend so little time showing the actual city that you feel like you missed out on so much. You only see the city, when it’s not run down, for only a few minutes. A movie called Tomorrowland needed to actually show us Tomorrowland.

I think it's likely that it was meant that way as they expected it to spawn a franchise, and were going to explore Tomorrowland itself more in subsequent films, but since the film failed financially, they didn't make anymore.

@@Pte.FletcherIronically them expecting sequels is why the first movie failed.

Could have been like Chronicles of Narnia or Alice in Wonderland.

If this place was real I wonder how people would feel about it? Like seriously an advanced civilization with such high technology how would people react? Government react? Would they be met with praise or hostility? Would we congratulate them for isolating themselves and advancing their technology? Or would the be met with ridicul for not helping civilization? In my opinion this should be a series

Every time a movie has a concept that deals with a sensitive or complex issue, they deliberately water it down with exposition and other nonsense to reduce its impact, and because they figure people are too stupid to get it otherwise. Also, they don't actually want anyone radicalizing over it, and potentially threatening the billionaire ruling class, so they want to make sure it's less provocative. . You can see it happen when Hugh Laurie gives his monologue near the end...and it's pure, horrific truth. But nobody pays attention by that point because of how limp and boring so much of the rest of the movie was. . Seriously, go watch his monologue by itself...with no context. It's chilling.

I actually think this movie could have been saved in the edit if they had leaned into the "George retelling the story" mechanic. Use that to tell the story non-sequentially and control when key information gets revealed.

@@tobiaslawrence8928 It wouldn't really matter. We'd be irrelevant to them. Their capabilities would be so utterly beyond us that it would be like a baby human against a Gundam.

Yeah, I would've preferred if we had the 60s story, if they wanted this story tbsy should've seen if that did well and tried a sequel, felt squashed into 1 movie

I disagree it’s a terrible idea for a franchise. You know what idea helped make Star Wars such a successful franchise? The lightsaber, it looks cool but at the end of the day it’s just a sword and that’s ok because it’s simple and it serves as an instrumental tool to the characters. U can cut through doors with it, cut people with it, throw it, deflect bullets with it! Cuts through almost anything? U can turn it on and off for cool effect. You can have a double one, two single blades, carry 4 at once! It never ends! The ability to teleport when touching something may be cool but to give 170 million $ to it was absolute insanity. What r u gonna do? Someone touches it it transports them. Ok great… 5 mins later I’m bored… ok someone is after them and when they touch it maybe they escape then when they let go they are in danger again…. Ok 10 mins of that I’m bored… maybe someone in the future world comes after her to take the pen which would trap her in the world where she is in trouble? Ok now I’ve gone way outta my way here to come up with a way better use of this idea but at the end of the day it works as a 30 min short film absolute max not a franchise.

Oh fr the pins were such a great idea kinda like a One Ring meets the Mockingjay Pin type situation it wouldve been so cool, esp. like as a trend for kids to get and put on their jackets or backpacks but as a symbol for being pioneers of science and design or something. Man i wanted one of those pins when i first watched this

@@thekaryodysseys6360Um, but Disney does have the Tomorrowland pins as merchandise

i loved the trailer and was disappointed by the movie

@@ChowdhuryRayan same

That's what I was just thinking. The teaser for this movie had me so pumped and that's all I watched before seeing it in theaters. While I enjoyed the movie, I was still very letdown. It was nothing that I thought it'd be.

Bingo! It was brilliant.

I vividly remember being like 12 and being absolutely entranced by the trailer. I think the problem here was that I, and presumably many other people, imagined so wildly and hopefully what the movie would actually be about, that when the mystery was actually answered in the film it couldn't live up to our infinitely high hopes. Which is probably why this type of marketing generally doesn't work.

They literally gave Bird and Lindelof a $170 million budget for this stinker. If you wanna blame the suits, fine, but the two still wrote this travesty.

Brad Bird made this? How do you go from The Incredibles to this?

Really?! Now THAT sounds like damn cool plot! Because this storyline felt really pointless and weird in my opinion.

Imagine batman fithing againts dr house

Disney is terrified of making any movies related to Disneyland. Even when they make them, they keep it vastly different

Must be a main land Europe thing, the film is called Tomorrowland here in the UK.

In France it was called Tomorrowland

in Austria and Germany, it was called "A World Beyond"

That’s interesting !

@@Puremindgames Officially in the UK it was the clunky "Tomorrowland: A World Beyond"

Oof Zathura was awesome

I dont remember evil alien overlords in Zathura

@@DeathnoteBB I was talking about the genre in general, Zathura was an example of what I meant.

@@DeathnoteBB iirc, there were actually alien overlords that were apart of the board game in Zathura

I thought the relationship between young frank and Athena was the most interesting part to explore. Athena represented an idealistic escape from the world he knew, and when he discovered she was an animatronic, it broke him. Not just in a first heartbreak a teenage boy experiences kind of way, but in a way which casts a doubt over all he believed about tomorrowland, causing him to be the cynic he is now

Some movies feel like they're really just checking boxes down a list of "things the characters need to do/say to advance the plot" especially when they get extremely tell-don't-show which this movie seems to struggle with immensely even when the core idea, the characters, the concepts are a+ material sometimes the overall execution feels like it was written by a committee of corporate executives

ikr, i thought I was watching a movie from early 2000s

The music didn't seem very carefully directed. It was as though it was slapped on there like a youtube video, rather than made bespoke to the movie itself.

What tech? No, Climate Change is NOT solved. Not even close. You want to know the only answer we have right now outside of bandaid solutions that won't work ultimately? Mass genocide. That's the only surefire solution we have right now. Just look at the insane "Green New Deal" proposed by nutcases in Congress. Ignoring that it literally sets up a Fascistic, all powerful government that controls every single aspect of your life, it proposes to ban planes, cars, rebuild every home, apartment, and factory in America, removing Nuclear power, and banning meat. After all that psychotic, destructive suggestions, which will result in massive amounts of dead in and of themselves, the GND would inevitable FAIL to do ANYTHING. Ignoring that wind and solar are completely insufficient energy sources right now, and all the energy required to literally rebuild an entire nation, eliminating America's carbon emission would do... NOTHING. Because China and India exist. And BOTH have refused to destroy themselves to stop Climate Change. Want to solve climate change? Nuke both of them. Speaking of nukes, that is the ONE area where there IS a good solution that is being ignored. While wind and solar are unreliable at best, and require an insane amount of land, nuclear power is safe, compact, cheap, and green. Yet... No one suggests we switch to it. The GND even ELIMINATES it entirely! So no, Climate Change is not fucking solved... Anyone who told you that is a fucking idiot or lying to you. The tech is NOT there, and it is a proven FAILURE, unless you are referring to Nuclear power. Furthermore, you always have to make sure that the cure is not worse than the disease. Destroying society, mass genocide, global poverty, the end to scientific progress, and setting up a global Fascistic world government is not fucking worth fixing Climate Change... That's like shooting yourself in the fucking head to "fix" your brain tumor...

@@davidtucker9498 You...really need a therapist.

We don't have the tech. What we need right now is development of the concepts that we know about. We know what the solutions should be...and the science supports it, but none of it has been developed, at all. . The main issues are the wealthy, and the influence they exert on the economy such that developing nations are forced into an unsustainable position. That's what the profit motive does. But you can't shut those nations down, or it will not only wreck the lives of those people, but much of the rest of the world that now relies on their products. . Short-term, the only real solution is to exterminate the billionaire class (and their immediate wealthy subordinates), and take all their shit, and redistribute it. It'll have nothing but positive impact on the economy, though a lot of crackpots will decry it as the death of civilization...because they have no concept of what civilization is. The billionaire class has no role in the world that isn't better served by other means. They're only cancer. The developing nations they've been exploiting are victims, not perpetrators. Get rid of the exploitation, and work to developing real solutions with the science we have, and they can be weened out of their circumstances. . The reality is, climate change is mostly irrelevant. One way or another, life on this world will go on...for a few million years more, anyway, at which point the Sun's development will cause the planet to burn to a crisp. And the planet itself will be fine for another billion or so years...before the Sun just eats it. Our endgame needs to be abandoning the planet. Even if our climate were not currently being damaged by us, that would still have to be our goal. Planets are fine cradles for life and civilization...but they're irredeemably shitty homes. . The only alternative is to just accept defeat. And, well, that's basically suicide. So, I don't really give a crap about the opinions of creatures who've already given up.

@@davidtucker9498 found the eco-fascist

@@davidtucker9498 Absolutely agree! People are afraid to look at the legislation and real world outcomes. All they parrot is "save the world" no matter the cost.

@@edwardhewitt9229 What do you mean? The sheer amount of money Disney put into this, and the trust they had in Brad Bird, showed that they thought this would be the start of a new franchise. It's Disney, they want everything to be a franchise. You seem to have completely misinterpreted what I meant. Having to many themes to explore in a film, means it can lack focus. This can make the overall story seem to meander from one place to another, without being able to focus on one thing. This can lead to a lack of character development, missed opportunities of world building etc. and makes the world a more boring place. This is what happened in Tomorrowland. What I suggested is standard editing. Cutting stuff out of a film, even if you don't want to, is what filmmakers have to do, in order to create a more succinct story. This happens constantly in filmmaking. That's why there are "deleted scenes" as dvd extras. Usually if the film is successful, then they can explore those things in the sequel.

The idea of him doing the entire trilogy makes me wish he never took up this project.

Tron didn't earn Iron Man bucks, and a busy movie release schedule killed it.

I heard they planned to make Tron big but then they bought Star wars so they didn't care about tron

@@TheArtkaw Tron Legacy made enough to get a sequel.

Get on it!

Yeah, that would have been cool

Do you know where we can find / watch this fan edit? I'm really interested in it

@@misseli1 It’s easier if I’m able to send it to you.I don’t know if you can still message on RU-vid, but if you’re on Twitter you can go to my RU-vid channel and click the link and add me and I may be able to do something there or find some other way to message/email it to you :-)

It wasn’t good

I loved it too!

@@DeathnoteBB, I think that’s a matter of subjective opinion. But in times when films with awful looking cgi rhinos and obvious antagonists “revealed” to be protagonist’s parents for ridiculous aerial battles are considered “good”, I don’t know if the subject is worth the conversation anymore.

​@DeathnoteBB shut up

What we got now wasn’t any better though with bland Rey character and completely undermines Anakin’s redemption.

@@calebray1834 my point exactly lol

Shut up

That is a great movie, based on a comic book I believe.

He wasn't a pedophile? he was in love with her as a kid, and still held feelings for her. She was never immature, on top of that she was simply in a child-like frame. She wasn't a kid, she was a robot.

@@rini9325 disgusting

Wasn't the "kid" also a robot? The story was so forgettable.

@@TheArtkaw Yes, she/it was a robot. The Clooney character didn't grow out of his attraction, as an adult man he kept pining for her/its affection instead of maturing and accepting her robotness or being turned off by the fact that she still looked very much like a preteen girl.

@@rini9325 The Clooney character didn't accept her as an artificial life form that could not return his feelings. As a grown man the sight of a preteen girl, no matter how mature she acts, should at least temper his feelings and evolve them to platonic fondness or at the very least discomfort at his attraction. Instead he acts like a spurned old boyfriend that seeks to reconcile.

Wasn’t that basically the idea behind Rapture?