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the REAL reason why JVKE says you can't play "GOLDEN HOUR" on piano... 

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@ezrac704
@ezrac704 Год назад
I like how JVKE was talking about this like it's the deepest thing ever when he did what the Beatles did several times unintentionally 60 years ago.
@prodlxis
@prodlxis Год назад
this is NOT jvcxb 😭
@norbacsam
@norbacsam Год назад
my sense exactly... no rocket science, and the kid should move on, show us something else than this song
@friday13michael
@friday13michael Год назад
*intentionally
@sfdjk
@sfdjk Год назад
@vanta ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QgtzOafdoOQ.html
@dylanbusch1908
@dylanbusch1908 Год назад
and bon iver
@juansandoval3610
@juansandoval3610 Год назад
If I had a penny for every time someone told me I couldn't play Golden Hour on a piano, I would have roughly 32 cents.
@greekoreo
@greekoreo 6 месяцев назад
r/angryupvote take it you bastard
@arno.q
@arno.q 5 месяцев назад
😂😂
@itzven
@itzven 5 месяцев назад
Fuck, that was a good one LMFAO
@Idontknowhoiamanymore
@Idontknowhoiamanymore Год назад
JVKE says you can’t play it on piano because JVKE can’t actually play it on piano
@Punch_is_thinking
@Punch_is_thinking Год назад
He can but in cmajor key haha😂
@Idontknowhoiamanymore
@Idontknowhoiamanymore Год назад
@@Punch_is_thinking haha I found that out after this I already posted this comment
@rakt8946
@rakt8946 Год назад
At least he sing ulike ur useless mouth
@ghostemanefan2915
@ghostemanefan2915 Год назад
​@@Punch_is_thinking he can but not in the exact key
@ghostemanefan2915
@ghostemanefan2915 Год назад
Btw there's a piano where u can pitch a the keys
@mikefetters6674
@mikefetters6674 Год назад
Listening to microtonal music, specifically 31 even tones in an octave is sort of a game changer for music. It sounds really unpleasant at first but you grow more used to it and the dissonance it can create is unlike anything in the standard 12 tones per octave. Great video!
@evascojb
@evascojb Год назад
I so much agree, my friend introduced me to it and I can’t unhear them. I have always loved dissonance as well and it’s beautiful.
@c.k.damusic3211
@c.k.damusic3211 Год назад
id recommend Sevish and Skueue. they are amazing with micro tonal/Xenharmonic music. ive used ideas like that in some of my own works like using 53 edo for a song and i just performed a song in 19 edo for my music theory final the other day. micro tones are so cool but sadly are a bit harder to get a hold of to perform with without a interment. Ableton has a microtuner on their software or if you don't have ableton you have use a vst called simplemicrotonalsampler and that has so many different tuning systems. also just someting imma say cuz i get annoyed and small stuff like this. this is just a micro tuned song not a microtonal song since it still have 12 notes in 12et just moved down a few sense. hoped you found this interesting to read
@jacobsanchez3763
@jacobsanchez3763 Год назад
it sounds very different
@prismix0870
@prismix0870 Год назад
king gizz
@TheWeightedKey
@TheWeightedKey Год назад
I love the other emotions the micro-tuned music can create, but I never considered it unpleasant to listen to or dissonant. A great example of this is, “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” by Tears for Fears which is tuned slightly sharp. While the original key does a lot for the emotions that the song evokes, the microtonality of the song provides more intrigue and feeling. I never once thought it to be dissonant though lol.
@5h5hz
@5h5hz Год назад
It's not that deep. A typical piano is tuned so that A is exactly 440Hz, JVKE uses a piano that has been tuned down slightly to A=432Hz which is why "you can't play it" because it will sound lower. All the stuff about "there are only 12 keys" and "keys represent emotions" is valid but he barely scratches the surface. If you want to really understand it then listen to a musician like Jacob Collier who uses microtones and microtonal keys a lot more often. There are lots of videos of him talking about it in much more detail. And you didn't cover "the REAL reason" why JVKE says it... he says it because the social media algorithms will make it go viral. That strategy is obviously a big part in his overall success.
@imamusicmogul
@imamusicmogul Год назад
Exactly right. I think a lot more people use microtones and keys without even realizing it especially when using some tape emulators or varispeed in logic. But you absolutely right. JVKE is actually a genius at social media and marketing and wouldn’t be surprised if this was planned to get people talking. His strategy to get his music out is really smart and I am noticing more artist have similar marketing strategies
@lordeowstheking
@lordeowstheking Год назад
Facts Glad someone Said it.
@mikeekim242
@mikeekim242 Год назад
Sam, if some guy plays it on the piano tuned to 440, most people won't be able to tell the difference without the contrast of the original song playing along side it.
@5h5hz
@5h5hz Год назад
@@mikeekim242 i know
@EPW142
@EPW142 Год назад
It's not valid. The song is really generic, simple and shallow.
@clammy77485
@clammy77485 Год назад
I have recently played golden hour on a slightly out of tune piano and when I took my recording and played it side by side with the original it sounded practically identical so if you want to play golden hour just find an out of tune piano
@IONProd
@IONProd Год назад
I mean this won't work for every piano lol. But I would guess that strings almost always get looser when out of tune so it might be right at that 8 hz down
@MMMM09
@MMMM09 Год назад
but then every single key has to be perfectly out of tune. it has to be out of tune in a specific way
@GianFerreyraBouillon
@GianFerreyraBouillon Год назад
The only reason JVKE said you can't play it on piano is so that other musicians started talking about it. JVKE is no music genius, but he definitely is very good at Marketing
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe 11 месяцев назад
Just another narcissistic creator.
@justmrin
@justmrin 10 месяцев назад
@@CosmicApe bruh look at his collaboration list 🙇‍♂️ don't just post a comment without actually knowing
@fifthdimensionfooty9471
@fifthdimensionfooty9471 9 месяцев назад
@@CosmicApesipping on that haterade
@cigxhang486
@cigxhang486 6 месяцев назад
@@CosmicApe I think if you don't market your music hard it'll be even harder to get big
@Jeej123
@Jeej123 Год назад
JVKE do be milking the shit out of golden hour
@igorz3551
@igorz3551 Год назад
Milking that ass song for the white people
@KroanC
@KroanC Год назад
Fr
@m1rac1e
@m1rac1e Год назад
it is fucking good as fuck tho lets be real
@le4chehenry324
@le4chehenry324 Год назад
@@m1rac1e no, it's an above average singer songwriter song i could think of like 200 songs in this genre off the top of my head that are better
@ashouaxiong1404
@ashouaxiong1404 Год назад
​@le4che henry please do share some, I would like to explore more
@kennichdendenn
@kennichdendenn Год назад
You maybe cant hear a few cents, but half a semitone is reasonable to be discerned. Turkish and arabic music regularly has quartertones, btw. If you step out of the 12 tone western music bubble, there is a lot to discover 😁
@Chrysanthemums
@Chrysanthemums Год назад
At this point JVKE should name his song "GOLDEN MILK"
@dizzycloud12
@dizzycloud12 Год назад
😂😂😂
@randomchannel323
@randomchannel323 Год назад
He's an industry plant anyways lol
@BrandonPoirierBlair
@BrandonPoirierBlair Год назад
I was a big fan of JVKE right before ''this is what _ feels like'' came out and I was digging the vibe of Golden Hour for a month when it came out but he's been shoving it in everyone's face with sketches and shorts so much that I got burnt fast. Too bad he's been milking this one song for over a year, he had real potential and according to wikipedia he was SUPER active for a decade before Golden Hour. Maybe hes just in it to make a check, and now that he finally has it he's just cashing it.
@Jakeylicious7891
@Jakeylicious7891 Год назад
He really needs new music. Artists generally release new music every few or so months and he should've had a new title track by now.
@chadp284
@chadp284 Год назад
artists who make it big need to milk. that's why drake became such a phenomenon, then the weeknd after, they milk the same song over and over until it runs dry because it's something they know works, and the bigger the spectacle behind a song, the more people will remember it. It's efficient marketing even though it's annoying.
@kyleharris2980
@kyleharris2980 Год назад
Gonna be like cilene dions ‘my heart will go on’ its gonna ‘sink’
@MT-sb2oe
@MT-sb2oe Год назад
If it wasn't for all of those shorts that he did, I wouldn't have heard Golden Hour because I gave up on current music a long time ago. I have been listening to all of his released music and I really like his recent album. Regarding his being active for a decade prior to Golden Hour, he's only 21 so that would mean he was active when he was about 11 years old? I don't think he was songwriting at that time. Also, his being active 10 years ago, where exactly? TikTok was created around 2017 or about 6 years ago so he couldn't have been active there a decade ago.
@Ik_Fwego
@Ik_Fwego Год назад
I'm glad more musicians can exploit their songs because the music industry can be ruthless. Songs are products that need to be sold, so these recording artists promote and market their products to potential listeners, licensees (record labels & music publishers) & synchronisation execs/producers (TV & Film) to maximise profit. Good on him and his team.
@heeckypi01
@heeckypi01 Год назад
Love that u added how to google what you want to search for! That’s a skill i think everyone benefits from when shared! :)
@zomb7138
@zomb7138 Год назад
Someone said it before but the biggest issue is how complicated he made it sound.
@jazzimel
@jazzimel 10 месяцев назад
I was experimenting with tuning ever since I was young. I would notice how certain songs, especially older songs seemed to sound like they were "off key" but in a good way so to speak, in a different key that didn't exist, and I'd be confused, trying to play in the correct key but it was somewhere in between... I learned how to tune to a certain cents to make a song convey a specific emotion. Make a love song feel even more romantic, an edgy song more intense, make a song feel vintage like mimicking the imperfect play speed of an old record or cassette player... it fascinated me...
@AlarkiusJay
@AlarkiusJay Год назад
You can find the true key of the song if you have a digital electric piano by using the "tone knobber" off to the side and use a pin to stick it in place. The whole song on the 432hz spectrum is played by a semitone between the F/F# - G/G# key, which makes it difficult to actually play on a grand piano
@wakeupthisisntreal8168
@wakeupthisisntreal8168 10 месяцев назад
Oh I've seen keyboard with those. You could theoretically play any microtonal changes.
@derekkane4574
@derekkane4574 Год назад
0:55-1:10 Jacob Collier can hear the difference between notes only a few cents apart. His pitch is beyond perfect. It's astounding
@arimaniac
@arimaniac Год назад
Average human can do
@joshjoshjoshjoshjoshjoshj
@joshjoshjoshjoshjoshjoshj Год назад
This is a video about golden hour and jvke, sir
@derekkane4574
@derekkane4574 Год назад
Jacob would agree with Jvke, when you move away from A440 by a number of cents, it evokes a different emotion. My response was to the commentator at around 1:00
@JinnyWin5
@JinnyWin5 Год назад
it's not possible by only a few cents it's like you can tell the difference between 60fps and 63fps functionally it's the same
@muffinconsumer4431
@muffinconsumer4431 Год назад
@@JinnyWin5 I can tell the difference between about 5 fps because I used to troubleshoot GPUs all the time. Some people are just more sensitive to things than others, just because you can’t doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
@alexanderpiano1506
@alexanderpiano1506 Год назад
Love your breakdown! Also the ever so subtle gentle roasting :)
@chien-holin3025
@chien-holin3025 Год назад
Just wanted to point out that in addition the 432 Hz tuning, the end of the song features several microtonal changes, which is why you cannot play it on a traditional piano even if all the strings are tuned down.
@vigneshp14
@vigneshp14 11 месяцев назад
Which part.?
@DERSITHA
@DERSITHA Год назад
I was looking for different and your video seems to be the only one who really show the comparison
@Ronkz
@Ronkz Год назад
1:10 that is correct if you limit yourself to only 12 notes an octave, you can do so many different things
@marcusianaviation9372
@marcusianaviation9372 Год назад
I added a pitch changer extension on Google Chrome and use it to tune songs up or down by 50 cents. Even though the pitch change of the songs are so slight, it evokes new emotions and feelings that I have never associated with those songs before
@shadowkiller123
@shadowkiller123 11 месяцев назад
I liked the 432hz version more, it is just a little more impactful and emotional. Most people may not be able to hear the difference much, but you can feel it. Everything in the universe is vibration, even subtle differences can have massive effects, even if you cant detect it.
@bobthegoat17
@bobthegoat17 11 месяцев назад
me lying on the internet
@DeiLux
@DeiLux 5 месяцев назад
Good work with the comment shadowkiller123.
@abnorth2276
@abnorth2276 Год назад
I agree with you to an extent but at 1:11 you say that there isn’t an infinite amount of pitches, even though there is. I still think there is something to the fact that we tend to only use 440hz tuning and that combining different tunings or just using different tunings may lead to different emotional responses.
@Nimoot
@Nimoot Год назад
He forces any piano that he uses to accept notes in C Major and then transposes them... physically hitting the black and white keys in the exact same way ... he's stated that he doesn't want to properly learn how to play piano so he cheats by ignoring the black keys.
@vincentb5431
@vincentb5431 6 месяцев назад
How is that cheating? C Major is one of the hardest keys to play in
@johnmetzler3864
@johnmetzler3864 Год назад
FINALLY. I’ve been trying to figure this out for so long, thank you!
@Shredberry
@Shredberry Год назад
Between the video exposing him of miming and then trying to explain it as "transposing" and using "looper" and this, I'm fully convinced that he doesn't know anything in depth about the piano. At this point we don't need to argue that he lied about being independent and that all his marketing was just "him and his brother" because his label AWAL ain't shy about showing that he is on their label lol Next, anyone who knows how label works knows a label will match ghost written songs to artists that they believe can sell so it's no surprise that he is a complete corporate plant trying to disguise as a humble everyday self-made musician. I'm glad he's getting exposed.
@Idkidkidkidk456
@Idkidkidkidk456 Год назад
jea hes a complete rat like most of those tiktok "artists"
@greatestartist5905
@greatestartist5905 Год назад
No hate towards him. Pretty white boi that can sing and play piano. It's obvious he is industry promoted.
@shortcirkuitz
@shortcirkuitz 5 месяцев назад
Why exactly is being a plant a bad thing? It’s no different than your favorite rapper lying about a certain lifestyle to garner attention and views… it’s the music business a profit needs to be turned and an investment must be recuperated. We all do it when we sign. Get used to it or don’t pay attention either way the machine will keep running.
@dannyel.7
@dannyel.7 11 месяцев назад
I would love to hear a full version of both the 440Hz and 432Hz together.
@mmeerah5696
@mmeerah5696 Год назад
1:11 "and i dont want all you what????"
@ngprentee
@ngprentee 3 месяца назад
I heard that too lmaoooo
@Caspin_1
@Caspin_1 Год назад
I have never studied music theory even though my mom was a musician and every pianist that I've seen attempt golden hour that I had listened to besides the original sounded "off" to me. This reminds me of a similar trick with Toby Fox's theme for Azgore, Bergentrückung, at the end of the first section of this theme Toby uses a note that is not found on a regular piano, instead he uses a note from a system that uses 24 notes that includes microtones instead of the standard 12 regular notes. I'm starting to understand that when it comes to good, unique, music tricks are often used.
@agnormous_music
@agnormous_music Год назад
Great Explanation brother
@claudiaoterohernandez920
@claudiaoterohernandez920 4 месяца назад
Thanks for explaining
@GarrettMusic1
@GarrettMusic1 5 дней назад
That is so cool!
@claytonfrancis1746
@claytonfrancis1746 Год назад
My man! Loved this!
@kyky4735
@kyky4735 Год назад
thank you, that was so interesting
@matthewmiller9569
@matthewmiller9569 11 месяцев назад
You rock, man. I love music and math and you show how they are one and the same
@shifukato3544
@shifukato3544 9 месяцев назад
bro the two recordings of golden hour together sounds like my old neighborhoods ice cream truck jingle
@user-xd6bq6te4x
@user-xd6bq6te4x 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, it was a vert interesting video. You just showed the real example of the following phrase: music can be mathemetically calculated. I really felt it!
@BigGucciDame
@BigGucciDame Год назад
Wow! Great explanation!
@imamusicmogul
@imamusicmogul Год назад
Thank you 🙏
@angelstevens2782
@angelstevens2782 8 месяцев назад
Well explained. Thanks.
@shalevcohen24
@shalevcohen24 Год назад
There are 12 notes you can play in western tonality! There's a lot more out there to discover, quarter notes and more tonality systems that are not built up on the same intervals as our most used tonality system! I think Adam neelly has a great video on that!
@DiviNazuphus
@DiviNazuphus Год назад
I don't know the musical term for it, but a shifting a chord from one note to another is the only thing you realistically can't do on piano. You always start a new chord. As long as that isn't a HARD requirement to play a piece basically anything can be played on piano if you tune it to play that specific piece.
@coocoo3336
@coocoo3336 Год назад
Black midi composers foubd a way to do it anyways.
@olinuxx
@olinuxx Год назад
This is the kind of video we needed.. Just simple explanation what is going on, nothing more. Great!
@JnoTe707
@JnoTe707 Год назад
I played Golden Hour on the keys just yesterday Mr. JVKE….get off your high horse lol. What’s your next song? Worry about that lol.
@Shredberry
@Shredberry Год назад
Don't worry, he basically said it himself in a comment to a video that he's too busy to actually learn the piano cuz he's writing new music LOL
@Nimoot
@Nimoot Год назад
More like he plays in C so he avoids hitting the black keys ... making the piano do the work of transposing it to the key we hear... He's a phony lol.
@nirmalroyalrich
@nirmalroyalrich Год назад
@@Nimoot it's out of topic, but i am tempted just to say lol
@redcarlcanal1894
@redcarlcanal1894 Год назад
u can actually play golden hour on the piano just a different key :> not the original pitch tho
@petey5009
@petey5009 Год назад
@@Nimoot I'd argue transposing a piano isn't inherently a bad thing, not all songwriters need to necessarily be good pianists. It is a little annoying how stuck up he seems about the whole thing though Also the fact that the audio in all of his "piano teacher reacts to my song" videos is the song audio rather than his actual playing is really misleading and stupid
@garryhousden8548
@garryhousden8548 Год назад
I absolutely love your Blue Keyboard!!!!!!
@strangerdanger2859
@strangerdanger2859 Год назад
I liked golden hour, but after all the disingenuous marketing, I just feel annoyed whenever I hear it. Which really sucks because the song is really interesting.
@0o0jf0o0
@0o0jf0o0 11 месяцев назад
To my knowledge most pianos - and orchestra instruments in general - are tuned somewhat above 440Hz, usually it's 442Hz I believe. But also orchestras can decide about their tuning individually. At least that's the case in western Europe.
@narutopower9512
@narutopower9512 5 месяцев назад
I have yamaha p125aB digital piano. I can control the pitch tones etc.
@orlandocastaneda4107
@orlandocastaneda4107 Год назад
Ooo arpegios tuned down so talented omggg
@rozenteo3970
@rozenteo3970 Год назад
Yea i noticed it when i tried to play it by ear, the key he uses is between Eb and E (major). In every single promotion short/tiktok, though, he plays it in ANOTHER key even though he sings it and it sounds like the original. scam
@Dowux
@Dowux Год назад
Every video that he milks about Golden Hour is just the original audio playing in the background.
@Dimian7
@Dimian7 Год назад
Thanks man! Awesome video! But I’m on both sides! With slight pitching you can open up som really cool ”off standard” more natural vibes.
@sasasthisu
@sasasthisu Год назад
few years back, i bought a guitar and a tuner. it was set to 432 Hz. self tune it. i didn't know about this 432 vs 440 at the time. played the guitar for few months in that tuning. later realized this 440Hz exists and tuned to it. But 432 sounds better to my ear.
@simonauuke4535
@simonauuke4535 5 месяцев назад
Wow that was explained like a pro super clear!
@spacemonkey11221
@spacemonkey11221 10 месяцев назад
Tight
@TSTBand
@TSTBand Год назад
When you hear a classical piano song like "La Campanella" from Litz, and then just after you hear Golden Hour from Jake... you will know that if he thinks that his song is difficult to play live, then he doesn't know very much about real difficult piano pieces... Like nothing at all to be honest.
@rainqd1889
@rainqd1889 Год назад
its just technical ability, and not really fair to compare la campanella to golden hour howeverrr i agree with you
@saintient
@saintient Год назад
mate you didnt finish the video?
@totallynotpaul6211
@totallynotpaul6211 Год назад
This guy is gonna go wild when he finds out that there are scales other than the standard western scale and while you might not notice with one note, when they're strung together it sounds completely different from western music 🤯
@sophiyarai5715
@sophiyarai5715 11 месяцев назад
When i play golden hour in my phone it heats up the area where the music is coming from
@MistBlues
@MistBlues 11 месяцев назад
Thank you; great theory video!
@d-lightbeats
@d-lightbeats Год назад
🔥🔥
@yes-xw8cg
@yes-xw8cg Год назад
I honestly believe that the 32 cent difference adds a lot. It is hard to notice consciousnessly, but it brings this subliminal feeling to the song, and I think it hits harder than uf the song was in 440.
@angelaobscura2146
@angelaobscura2146 Год назад
Makes it feel old fashioned
@Talcyon64
@Talcyon64 Год назад
Alright, I'll be the one to say it. Did anyone else do a double take at 01:09 just to make sure they heard that right?
@OpticIlluzhion
@OpticIlluzhion Год назад
I'm sorry, "there are only 12 tones you can choose from"? In the context of piano tuned to 12TET at A = 440Hz yes but if you have ever explored the concept of different tunings and microtonality/different (equal) divisions of the octave there are FAR more ways to do it than most music people listen to. There are technically infinite pitches and there are technically no rules, it's just that JVKE does not do his own statements justice, like, at all
@Nullllus
@Nullllus Год назад
"What about all these other missing emotions?" Such a douchy phrase to me.
@MusicBird08
@MusicBird08 Год назад
yeah
@Derpcat
@Derpcat Год назад
That’s funny, when I made my golden hour remix I actually tuned it -32 cents without knowing it’s the exact amount you have to pitch down your instruments
@theacme1000
@theacme1000 7 месяцев назад
Very interesting and great explanation. I was wondering why he was saying it can't be played on the piano.
@Me-da-Ghost
@Me-da-Ghost Год назад
The KEY is what is different, not the SCALE. The scale is still major/minor/whatever mode he used, just transposed slightly to a slightly different key.
@Eatencaviar
@Eatencaviar Год назад
So, c major isn’t a key?
@echo5270
@echo5270 Год назад
@@Eatencaviar c is the key, major is the scale
@Eatencaviar
@Eatencaviar Год назад
So, is C major a key?
@troll707
@troll707 Год назад
JVKE seems to pretend like he's some mastermind
@placefeature5329
@placefeature5329 6 месяцев назад
He does lol.
@prodzoma
@prodzoma Год назад
seemed more complicated than it had to be - good vid mate!
@smathepianist_on_YT
@smathepianist_on_YT 11 месяцев назад
God bless you, Sir.
@Calakapepe
@Calakapepe Год назад
I just came hoping we'd quickly talk about if the shapes in the studio key (rounding to the nearest western A=440hz tuning) .. if there were shapes that made it difficult. I garner Jake obviously can play... he liked the higher key to fit his singing but... isnt practiced enough to play the studio key as cleanly.. but at least for the intro... it shoudlnt take much practice to play it as smoothly as C major version.. I was able to play it & Im truly not the world's greatest pianist
@RejhanTrubljanin
@RejhanTrubljanin Год назад
1:11 music ha- what now?
@Waking_Luna
@Waking_Luna Год назад
There is some major miss information. The “12 octaves” is the American system for music, while it’s not totally isolated to American, we are the ones that made it the standard. Music from different countries all have a unique sound to them because of the tones they are played at, many of which are completely different than any of the 12 tones we have.
@cookieclick
@cookieclick Год назад
background stuff at start reminds me of iotastic's song
@MartinDellaNina
@MartinDellaNina Год назад
I kinda still hear that chorusing effect.
@W8RTH8R
@W8RTH8R Год назад
Hahahahah that an engineer slap man 🤜🏾
@guycollishaw1957
@guycollishaw1957 Год назад
Maybe I'm just 'emotionally' inept... But having trained relative pitch for the best part of my life, different keys mean nothing to me other than playability on instruments. Yes, microtonality and modulation during playing may make you feel a certain way but NOT AT ALL different keys as a whole. Or having played a lot of traditional folk, could be emotion by association? Since I played in G until my ears bled, I kind of look back fondly with that key. idk.
@kyleharris2980
@kyleharris2980 Год назад
I would argue that modes would resemble different emotions more than key sigantures, but even then it can be subjective. Thats why in written music you would get performance directions telling you the mood of a piece for interpretation purposes. Tempo could also be relevant to emotions as well but its also not one size fits all. Slow tempo could help convey sadness in a piece, but you could make a piece thats slow and also happy. And then when you add lyrics theres a lot more context involved.
@guycollishaw1957
@guycollishaw1957 Год назад
@@kyleharris2980 I do agree with you and I'm not arguing the emotional effect of modes, tempo etc. But my point was that purely transposing a key does not change anything for me. So all keys played the exact same, relative to each other, doesn't have any effect on me other than 'oh... This sounds different'.
@kyleharris2980
@kyleharris2980 Год назад
@@guycollishaw1957 same tbh, i like use the transpose button a lot cause im curious to hear what the piece sounds like. I mean to me its just like a different flavour
@iCrimsonKing
@iCrimsonKing Год назад
Exactely, the emotions that arise from the music are all in funcional harmony/modulations. If i transpose a piece a semitone up its gonna give me the same feeling. One thing that needs to be said is that the instrument's timbre changes if you change octave, so it's not JUST about playability.
@kyleharris2980
@kyleharris2980 Год назад
@@iCrimsonKing true, like you could make an argument that some sort of emotion is being convoyed if you are changing key signatures. But if the whole piece is just in one key then its just really a preference of the composer. And sometimes also the limitations of what instruments are being used.
@lizardltd
@lizardltd Год назад
Valid rant Really good vid Great piano skills Clear and concise Thanks!!
@GANGBENGAL
@GANGBENGAL 4 месяца назад
FYI you can tune the project file to 432hz. File -> Project Settings -> Tuning
@ryan_edward_scott
@ryan_edward_scott Год назад
my piano is so out of pitch it sounds like the og recording when i play it 😭
@ThisIsMyFullName
@ThisIsMyFullName 11 месяцев назад
Ironically, I think it sounds better at 440Hz. At 432 Hz it kinda sounds like a vinyl record that's been bend and can't keep tempo. The only real emotion it evokes is annoyance, but most people won't even hear it.
@JessieDaRabbit
@JessieDaRabbit 4 месяца назад
so the piano at my school which is out of tune is perfect for playing golden hour
@sarahxsera
@sarahxsera Год назад
Wow! So interesting
@florianhettotto7151
@florianhettotto7151 Год назад
what if you use the pitching trick to create 13 tones with same intervals between an oktave instead of 12. i wonder how that would sound, and did someone do that? is there a video?
@user-kk5qe9fj2l
@user-kk5qe9fj2l Год назад
Violinist here, actually I can here differences of a few cents and more importantly my intonation has to be that accurate because we usually play perfect intervals, which means I might end up transposing the music by a few cents if I don't also use less pure or very large intervals to get back to the proper tuning without anyone noticing, giving the illusion, that all my intervals are actually perfect and that our 12 tone system actually works.
@user-kk5qe9fj2l
@user-kk5qe9fj2l Год назад
In case someone is wondering what the fuck I'm talking about. Our 12 tone system is built around 12 fifths being the same interval as 7 octaves. Sadly they are off by around 23 cents. On keyed instruments the solution is to just spread the error over every interval so normal people can't hear that something is off. On stringed Instruments like the violin this would be extremely difficult to pull off, so what we do instead is just play all the important intervals perfectly and then move the error along until we find a place where we can get rid of it, that sounds better anyway. (no it's not really a conscious process, it's just the result of fixing whatever intonation mistakes you can hear and getting better at hearing them etc.)
@francescopio5864
@francescopio5864 6 месяцев назад
in italy the piano is usualy tune in 432, is tune in 440 when is in a orchestra, this is a very old story bit in french and italy the tune it was different because musicians of the past from the Baroque period up to World War II decided that 432 is the most human frequency, Hitler during the Second World War and towards the end defined the pitch at 440 as standard but both in France and in Italy they preferred to remain with the pitch that the great musicians of the time had said, such as Verdi, Vivaldi and many others. In France the 435 has been standardized and in Italy the 432, for obvious reasons the 440 is preferred in orchestras as many musicians will not only be from that nation and are used to tuning their instrument in 440.
@vspatmx7458
@vspatmx7458 Год назад
I have this decade old cheapo casio And even in that ancient amateure entry level and economical machine, I can change the value of A4 = xyz And even make it sound like a F3 if I wanted to And that's totally different from the Transpose feature. Also in my recordings I always change the tuning to something non standard Why ? Cos it sounds better to me at that time.
@kay6730
@kay6730 5 месяцев назад
im actialy amazed that JVKE knows about the golden 432 hz, i get my piano default settings to 432 every time i sit and play on it
@corneliojerez1791
@corneliojerez1791 Год назад
Isn't there something about certain feequencies being healing frequencies?
@izzysminecraft
@izzysminecraft Год назад
It's super common in the master to actually speed up the track a little (which also raises up the pitch). This makes the vocals sounds more precise and lifts the track a little to make it feel a little more energetic. Really common practice. I'm betting this is what happened, and JVKE just made up some bull to justify it, which he really didn't need to do.
@skyyly656
@skyyly656 Год назад
I was thinking the same thing, like it sounds so cryptic but really its as simple as shifting the frequency of the final track those 30 whatever cents and it'll be the same result lmao
@composerjalen
@composerjalen 4 месяца назад
I agree that JVKE is a lying marketing clown, but the song's pitch is lowered, not raised
@tcistrash9911
@tcistrash9911 Год назад
What's the guitar bgm playing? It's pretty chill
@macaelawalker5048
@macaelawalker5048 Год назад
Cool
@smartjackasswisdom1467
@smartjackasswisdom1467 Год назад
0:17 I did the same face
@danwarb1
@danwarb1 Год назад
He said he uses the transpose function to make it easier for him to play.
@ukeblajwlog
@ukeblajwlog 9 месяцев назад
didnt he just record it on a piano that was a little out of tune? cause that was my impression while listening to this song for the first time, it sounds like its played on a home piano that hasnt been tuned for quite a while, the rooom-kind of reverb helps create this impression too. thats why the track sounds so warm, cause it evokes certain nostalgia.
@vtubercalypso
@vtubercalypso Год назад
me, who hasn't tuned my piano in years: *is that a challenge?*
@sebastianmartineztorres8602
@sebastianmartineztorres8602 6 месяцев назад
How can I play it just in white keys
@sparc5
@sparc5 Год назад
I was wondering.
@davidcarr2308
@davidcarr2308 Год назад
Had no clue this was the missing piece to it all Thank u
@GTAmotor05
@GTAmotor05 9 месяцев назад
What is the name or Your Outro music for the last 40 seconds 🤔. Thanks
@cornq6965
@cornq6965 Год назад
Because there are multiple piano parts in the song that he recorded at different times and there are big leaps
@frahohen
@frahohen 8 месяцев назад
I play Golden Hour in 432hz. I even know how to pitch the piano to this, but it takes a lot of time to do that on a real piano for every string.
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