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The REAL reason why nepo models bother everyone so much 

Lisa Fevral
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miu miu 2025 show ignited another wave of fashion model nepotism baby conversations online. I think we need to acknowledge what's really wrong about nepotism and what it's the symptom of.
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@notevenfunny_
@notevenfunny_ День назад
I'm a med student and I'll tell you right now, nepotism is also present in the medical field. Most people think you have to be academically competent to get into med school but trust me you don't. There's this one school that accepts people based on bribes and nepotism (coincidentally it was the only university to reject me). Be careful out there y'all, if you feel like your doctor is not hearing you out, chances might be that it's an incompetent doctor who just got through med school through bribery and nepotism. For my protection, all of this is alleged.
@tinaodekunle8163
@tinaodekunle8163 День назад
this comment needs to be pinned
@sapphic.flower
@sapphic.flower День назад
Bruh 💀💀
@kel.sharpe
@kel.sharpe День назад
Wtf wtf wtf
@MikuHatsune159
@MikuHatsune159 23 часа назад
I would not wish a bad doctor or physician to anyone. That's negligence. If they are allegedly not getting in through proving their worth.... Yikes
@notevenfunny_
@notevenfunny_ 23 часа назад
Just to clarify further, there was this one doctor (OBGYN) in my country that was "helping" the mom give birth to her child. It was supposed to be a relatively easy delivery but that baby came out dead (don't really remember the case but I remember that the doctor was from that university that allegedly accepted bribes). To be fair, this is relatively rare occurrence in other universities (to be accepted by bribes), though there are allegedly some universities that will allegedly tell some nepo students beforehand what is in the exam so the students can allegedly pass the exam So they allegedly don't go through the same gruelling exam process that we go through to become doctors, and as a result of allegedly only studying for the exam, will allegedly not remember the content from that exam and not really remember all the content from that year. So they allegedly won't remember the side effects of drugs, and some diseases and disorders. As a med student, I will tell you that everything you learn from the moment you get in must be remembered because they will never repeat the content so telling someone what is in the test is detrimental to the med student's knowledge. All of this is rare (if it even happens), so I'm not telling you to scare you, just making you aware that it is possible to get into university without being academically successful. Everything I said in this comment is alleged.
@SieMiezekatze
@SieMiezekatze День назад
to me the unfair advantages are so obvious , like opening a show ?? as your first ever walk ? the fact that Nepo babies get paid so much per show so they can be selective of brands they can walk for , also they are chosen irregardless if they fit the aesthetic (Candle Jenner ) , not only are Nepo babies the best paid models but also the most celebrated , talk about , the one that wins the awards , now how is that fair?
@13realmusic
@13realmusic День назад
Ijbol, Candle Jenner 😂😂😂
@4651adri
@4651adri 22 часа назад
*Kandle Jenner
@Art-zp1qg
@Art-zp1qg 20 часов назад
🕯️ Jenner😭😭😭
@kristenefox7001
@kristenefox7001 День назад
Vlada Roslyakova did not walk 91 shows in one season for these people with famous last names whose parents pay to get them on the runway to act like the work is "so hard". Nepotism is bad everywhere. The luxury of saying no is not something given to the low income person.
@ghostbitxh
@ghostbitxh День назад
@@kristenefox7001 omg vlada is the queeeeeen
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
that time Kendall said she was "picky" about shows and how all the other models are not choosing the best shows for their careers as if its not A JOB for them that they have to do to pay bills
@Zombina638
@Zombina638 8 часов назад
Ehhhh
@emerybayblues
@emerybayblues 2 часа назад
Naomi Campbell shaded that.
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 День назад
The phrase "It's not what you know, it's who you know" pretty much encapsulates how our society runs on various forms of Nepotism and it makes my blood boil. if you don't have the connections and/or money good luck climbing the ladder. My biggest issue with Nepobabies is that any time their privilege/advantage is called out or even slightly acknowledged they will do Simone Biles levels of Mental Gymnastics to say they are "self-made" instead of just admitting "Yeah my connections and money gave me a leg up and I'm grateful for that.". As she said, self-made people exist, don't get me wrong but as the years go by, self-made celebrities are a dying breed.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
the worst things is WHO actually does "climb the ladder" - ppl who don't mind doing something horrific and are overall greed POS. like mrBeast and his copycats, or those guys shilling crypto
@patriciazandilencube4597
@patriciazandilencube4597 7 часов назад
I agree with most of what you said but l.think celebrities have been nepo babies for decades now. Think of some our faves : Nicholas Cage is a coppola. Kiefer is a sutherland, even black celebs Sanna Lathan is a Lathan, etc. Many people had some connections : mom is a casting manager, uncle is a producer, God mother was in a popular band .
@muminaweliyo
@muminaweliyo День назад
There’s the same exact problem in the writing industry. You have people who are INCAPABLE of creating a good story become extremely successful bc they have the money to get a publishing agency and really good advertisements. And they have the opportunity to sit around pushing out all this awful work whereas people like me have jobs and don’t have as much free time to write. It’s so frustrating. On a positive note- I’m VERY excited for the deep dive! You always deliver
@CiaLaVirago
@CiaLaVirago День назад
This is why when I walk in a book shop it looks like it has been taken over by a bunch of illiterate trolls, but when i log on ao3 suddenly Homer, Dante Alighieri, Virgil and Dacia Maraini descend from the heavens and drop some masterpiece on my lap
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 23 часа назад
Not just writing for literature, but also movies, I reckon. It's why we've been getting so many reboots or badly made and tone deaf garbage movies throughout the 2010s and now. It's just made by people who are uncreative and have no idea how the real world works.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
yeah that's why so much art feels like garbage with a bow on top nowadays - all these industries are dried up with only copies and, unfortunately, mediocre thieves:(
@Anne_one
@Anne_one 23 часа назад
Or ghostwriters
@ottiannatrabertina
@ottiannatrabertina 11 часов назад
@@LisaFevral simulacrum vibes mayhaps?
@baby.nay.
@baby.nay. 18 часов назад
Being a poor girl in art school was really enlightening. I saw just the edge one has over other students by not having to have a part time job. A lot of talented people graduate without connections and end up working a shitty job and you’re just stuck behind .
@anustardust
@anustardust 6 часов назад
The same with fashion school. I was astonished by the amount of rich people
@baby.nay.
@baby.nay. 3 часа назад
@@anustardust dude right ?! My first school had a fashion major , I really wanted to go into fashion but because I had to work in high school too, I never had enough time to get a real portfolio I felt proud of . I got accepted into photography, and soon discovered that was a rich girl major too 😔
@sebastianhoppe2118
@sebastianhoppe2118 День назад
Nepotism always was a thing. It is everywhere. It is not just on this high level. But nepotism is also in when you work in an office and the son of the boss gets your job. And it was always like that and it is everywhere on every level
@aki-est
@aki-est 11 часов назад
14:38 I went to art school for two years and realized I had no desire to constantly advertise myself (and by extension, my work) to rich people for the rest of my life. My classmates were wearing this season’s gucci in the wood shop while I was trying to limit my meals in the cafeteria to once per day so my meal plan would last until the end of the semester. I am not very charismatic or good with people and I struggled to relate to these classmates, and at the end of my second year I started to realize these were the types of people my livelihood and career would likely depend on; it sucked allll the joy and interest out of art for me. I transferred to a state school that summer to finish my degree and now I work a boring 9-5 (but at least I have regained my passion for creating art). Kudos to all the people who can endure the ordeal of pursuing what you love at any cost while watching your peers gently stroll to success, that takes a unique mental fortitude not many people possess lol
@Regene2383
@Regene2383 2 часа назад
I feel the same way, I was an art major but switched to science bec the art world is brutal. I do still enjoy art as a hobby tho ❤ you should think about posting RU-vid vids about ur art! Would love to see it
@zah936
@zah936 47 минут назад
🫂
@lyraenza
@lyraenza День назад
When I was in med school, I heard some of the kids there gossiping about someone they knew losing one of their parent. They were *laughing and smiling*. It made me so uncomfortable I felt physically nauseous. And when I told them to stop talking about that (couldn't move away, the hallway was crowded) they looked at me like I was the weird one.
@PowerSpirit50
@PowerSpirit50 День назад
They lived in the wrong reality that they themself got themselves into.
@morighani
@morighani 23 часа назад
i don’t hate nepo models i just hate seeing and hearing about them every single day when i don’t care 😭 there’s nothing special about any of them, they’re unremarkable in every way and it’s kind of a shock to my brain to see someone who i’ve never heard of before all of the sudden being everywhere without having done something to explain it. it’s more annoyance and i get tired of their faces
@13realmusic
@13realmusic День назад
I remember getting so annoyed when Kendall Jenner said something about how she doesn’t walk that many shows in a way that implied it’s ridiculous to do so. But like other runway models are doing it because they need the money, so stfu!
@bobsayshello7112
@bobsayshello7112 3 часа назад
She legit also said it also made it "harder" for her. Like I would take the opportunity if I wanted to be a model but be self aware for god's sake.
@ghostbitxh
@ghostbitxh День назад
my energy is also sooo low it's trashy i have so much shit to do and just stay in bed all day great video as always, thank you! nicole really did her daughter dirty, but maybe they have decided that the victim of shaming persona would make her look innocent and gain more popularity through this painfully, but quickly
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 23 часа назад
I feel like some celebrities put their kids through this so that people can praise them for being a, "Good parent for giving their child so many opportunities." because why would you allow your child to be thrown in there with no preparation and training just so they can embarrass themselves and get bullied online? Clearly they're not doing for the kid, because they could've paid for training or something but chose not to. Parents who say, "I want you to go out there when you're ready, because I don't want you getting bullied." are the ones who genuinely care.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
maybe you're right! You should do a blood test, I'm going to do it tomorrow to check my thyroid. So maybe your thyroid is off
@MarioLanzas.
@MarioLanzas. День назад
in the end, the answer to ¨what's the origin of (insert problem)?¨ is always ¨capitalism¨
@zztopz7090
@zztopz7090 13 минут назад
But you dont hate capitalism. You just hate being poor.
@catmoon-
@catmoon- День назад
Nepotism happens everywhere. I have a home office job for a small company, so I don't really know very well my coworkers, since we only talk in a chat and the work I do is writing. But I know that some of those workers are related to the boss and they always do a shittier job than the other workers, but they never leave the company, while other better workers have left the company.
@emptyskiff4415
@emptyskiff4415 День назад
Discussing reasons why people are pissed about nepo babies while sitting under Seulgi’s 28 REASONS… genius scene setup
@Latinart
@Latinart 52 минуты назад
You have gone in great depth to dig further into the conversation of the nepo babies crises. Most of us just gloss over the subject and get upset, you brought it to every one attention that it is a bigger crises of nepotism in the world economy, government and social classism. Congrats on your amazing journalism skills. I have worked in the beauty industry for over 35yrs and saw first hand in the makeup industry how many levels and forms of nepotism exist. Your right it’s not the most talented that gets rewarded is the ones with the money who steel your or others creativity that make it big.
@baby-girlification
@baby-girlification День назад
I've also been in a really bad slump lately in my field, and a lot of it has to do with class and access. I am a tattooer in NYC, literally the most expensive city in the world, and there's so many talented artists around me and in this city. But when I talk to my peers and ask how they can afford this city, the disparity is huge. A lot of artists that are incredibly successful and have a huge following have partners in tech or finance, and they have the savings and finances to rent another space for a studio or even open their own. Some very famous artists, while understandably expensive, are charging $700/hour, which is insane even for the most qualified of artists. Meanwhile, I know many other artists, particularly queer and trans people of color, (and I myself fall into this category) that have to work three jobs to support their actual passion and charge pretty low/accessible prices because they want their qtpoc clients to be able to access a tattoo given the recession. it's super disheartening to see, especially in an artistic industry that's also rife with stealing too.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral День назад
the stealing is just the nail in that damn coffin ahahah struggling just to see someone profit off of your work is just the worst
@baby-girlification
@baby-girlification 23 часа назад
@@LisaFevral it happens so often in tattooing! especially since there's multiple people and sources that can influence a design. it probably happens even more than we think, just some artists don't post as much
@kathylennerds750
@kathylennerds750 22 часа назад
I always find it suspicious when tattoo artist don't have an issue with tattooing another person's design no question (usually off pinterest) :/
@baby-girlification
@baby-girlification 21 час назад
@@kathylennerds750 its very true😢 lots of tattooers are willing to turn a blind eye or just directly copy something because "it's what the client wants" but it's irresponsible. a friend of mine's designs (not even a tattoo artist) was stolen recently and tattooed by someone else on someone else's skin, permanently!! it's usually totally fine as long as there's permission, but so many won't even bother asking for that!
@szilasnanai9041
@szilasnanai9041 День назад
UGH! Lisa your hairs always soooo goood!*.*
@flowerlian
@flowerlian День назад
This is also common the research community, for example rich student are paying for their internships or research projects, they do this by hiring a company and give them shit tone of money and that company will sponsor, so even if you get the into the internship or research program and you don’t have the founding you are off the games even if your ideas might actually safe millions of people.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral День назад
same in engineering, just to graduate you have to have an investor, it's literally in the curriculum
@Kermitt_thee_frog23
@Kermitt_thee_frog23 День назад
I think nepotism in the artistic world compared to science or poltics comes down to the work. To be a doctor or a lawyer, you need to study & take several tests to get a license. However, nepotisim in those feilds are also worth addressing but I think we ignore them because it's more "depressing" to think about compared to nepotism in the arts. I will say tho that nepo baby discouse (when it comes to arts) has been watered down over the years & it really shows who actually interested in this topic or the field. From what I've seen, the nepo baby model issue connects back to other issues within the modeling industry like the presence of celebrities (that cant walk) on runways & how runway shows aren't as theatric as they used to be but I don't see people outside those circles talking about it. It also really shows with how some people will just hate on all nepo babies without any regard for those with actual talent/are good at their jobs (like the hadid sisters) while failing to name any self-made artists/models or bother to uplift them.
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 23 часа назад
That's a good point. If we really care, we need to bring more attention to the self-made ones, or at the very least bring attention to the ones who are actually good rather than hate-watching people like Kendall.
@moustik31
@moustik31 23 часа назад
Nepotism wouldnt be such an issue, if so many of these nepo babies werent willfully mediocre! They have the means to hire coaches and teachers to help them get ahead in any field, they dream to enter and yet, they dont even bother. Edit: thank you for pointing out the issue is bigger than fashion runways. Black people have been calling this sh*t out since Elvis became big while the Black musicians he ripped off died in anonymity and poverty.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 22 часа назад
yessss it's been going on forever, and it ALL comes from the same place - the fact that we don't have real equality
@zah936
@zah936 46 минут назад
As if there aren't black nepokids Before you start crying, I am a woc.
@CiaLaVirago
@CiaLaVirago День назад
I assume that people are mostly mad about the nepotism within the entertainment industry because it's an enviroment where the entire point is for people to be seen by the biggest audience they can find. You have these people under your eyes all the time, so it's immediately evident there. But in other industries, people might not realise it because they wouldn't think about it unless they are in that industry
@moustik31
@moustik31 23 часа назад
Plus, there is this misconception, that "beauty" is like a lottery, it doesnt discriminate by class, despite having plenty of examples of models, who "bought" their face and reached the top of the industry.
@CiaLaVirago
@CiaLaVirago 23 часа назад
@@moustik31 EXACTLY! Of course there's people who are naturally beautiful, but the beauty standards of today are so impossibly unattainable that the only way to meet them is through cosmetic surgery. Which is incredibly expensive.
@moustik31
@moustik31 22 часа назад
@@CiaLaVirago Right? Plus, after decades of "preferential" dating, people being born "naturally" tall and skinny are more likely to belong to the upper classes.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
even when you are IN the industries that are not so public, it takes years until you start finding out how everyone is connected/rich prior entering the work force
@midknight236
@midknight236 День назад
01:00 No but why those shorts lookin so uncomfortable in the MiuMiu fashion show 😭🏳️‍also maybe its just me but half of the models kinda look sick (sickly palish) 😢 or maybe its just the make up idk Edit: I'm one of those attention deficit kids 😆🙌 ty for adding the clips~😊
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
eating poorly isn't great for you, so that might be a part of it
@lenapawlek7295
@lenapawlek7295 День назад
Thank you for talking about this!!! Its do frustrating that we have all these nepotism babies and people look down on it but don't think about or want to change the system
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral День назад
it's just funny that so many ppl think it's separate from everything else and can be fixed in modelling separately
@heatherhaven1268
@heatherhaven1268 21 час назад
I like what Bo Burnham said when Conan O’Brian asked him if he had advice for aspiring comedians and he said “take a deep breath and give up”
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
yeah, it's not a meritocracy. Don't give up though, use your energy to change the system rather than trying to fight for a hypothetical spot under the sun
@mangojelly23
@mangojelly23 День назад
ate 👏 the way this poison it's in every fkn field like, i have two cousins who wanted to be a pilots, one of them is the same class as me (middle lower class) and the other comes from a wealthy bg; guess which one spent years studying and taking loans but never got to be a pilot having to work other shit and prob being depressed for the rest of his life and which one got in without even an interview and is a pilot to this day, and it happened to me as well but in the arts field so...
@moustik31
@moustik31 21 час назад
Nicole Kidman is trying to gaslighting us: she had the means AND the connexion to hire the BEST coahes out there to teach her child to walk properly. Her child is 16, her failure/international humiliation rests more on her mother's shoulders than hers. Similarly to what happened with North and the Lion King performance. Is that who Nicole Kidman wants to emulate: the Kardashians?! 🤨🙄
@dhsf5937
@dhsf5937 13 часов назад
Because would be a waste of money and time hire someone when the kid can't behave and feels like she doesn't need it.
@vivimaria7243
@vivimaria7243 9 часов назад
Maybe she does, actually..? She thought: well if those girls can be supermodels, so can my daughter... 😞
@b.bd00m77
@b.bd00m77 22 часа назад
I absolutely adore your channel! This video is so on point! Honestly I think why nepotisim has been SUCH a problem in the entertainment industry now, because there has been so many scandals! Non nepo or connected individuals have been speaking out about it. (Like model Owen Mooney who was SA by Alexander Wang, Gemma Ward etc.) If someone's family is already in the status quo, they don't have care about how they act, it's easy to like shut away bad behavior and sweep under the rug for awhile or just quietly buy them off... There's so many reasons why the ET industry has been on this bandwagon, but I digress. This video is going in my favorites for sure, because you hit so points Lisa!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. День назад
I love when people deflect nepotism with “My (insert relative/family friend here) had nothing to do with it. We grew up like very middle class.” LIKE THAT STILL DOESN’T NEGATE THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE. Equally as worse are those self-righteous people who think that their geography and not being directly associated with a famous person alters their privileged existence. Romanticising poverty is not the flex we think it is.
@oanac9035
@oanac9035 Час назад
thank you sincerely for making this video, (as an eastern european) feels like i'm going crazy out here :,c
@estheromoyele3321
@estheromoyele3321 День назад
LISA POSTED YIPEEE! 🎉⭐️
@Lunaiinmidnight
@Lunaiinmidnight 13 часов назад
Meritocracy truly is a myth. I am so glad that you also directed the blame towards Nicole Kidman and the casting director for putting this girl in a shit position, cause it’s so easy to get caught up in the discourse and overlook how kids, regardless of class status, are treated as property/object to fulfill the interests of their parent institution / family. Especially young girls. The higher-ups are not at all interested in cultivating actual talent if it doesn’t yield value back for them. It’s all so transactional, so rotten.
@majomist
@majomist 10 часов назад
The thing with the medical field is not only nepotism runs rampant, but also someone decided there would be a maximum number of doctors who can study??? (this may be a frnech-only thing, I hope, I really do) Like why are we forcibly reducing the offer in something vital? I already have to wait a year for my family ophtalmologist, and there are many specialities that are straight-up gone from the city (pediatricians, dermatologists, neurologists, diabetologists, ORL...), and this ain't a 200 people village but a middle-sized town with like 80k people and a hospital??? And you're telling me we're NOT training more doctors???
@ottiannatrabertina
@ottiannatrabertina 11 часов назад
hi Lisa! As always, the production quality is top tier, the glimmer effect is stunning and the way you present ideas with so much nuance is refreshing!! speaking of smaller artists you follow and admire, would you mind sharing a couple of them? i'd love to see what kind of art resonates with you!
@RambleMaven
@RambleMaven День назад
I hope you feel better soon! I agree that this is just a symptom to a larger issue that has gone unaddressed.
@neptune7547
@neptune7547 День назад
The blouse you’re wearing is gorgeous, what a beautiful color!
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
thank you🥰
@oatfreedairy
@oatfreedairy 23 часа назад
pretty much all of the issues you described in the modeling industry are present in the the architectural field as well
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
yeah, it's literally everywhere:(
@jessyhu
@jessyhu 17 часов назад
Romeo Beckham having the opportunity to change professions at any time infuriates me. He just showed at fashion week, but until yesterday he was a football player.
@vbrown6445
@vbrown6445 Час назад
I feel like this nepotism issue is a big issue right now for White Americans. Black Americans (and other non-Whites) in the US have always known that those with money/wealth, power, and connections (White people) help each other (family, friends, people in their circle, people of their own race) and exclude others. People in other countries also seem to acknowledge that this is how things have always worked. But middle-class White Americans have been brainwashed to think that merit and merit alone is what allows them to move ahead. The reason why nepotism in the entertainment field is such a big deal is because it's seen, unlike nepotism in business/medicine/etc. which is invisible to most average people.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 44 минуты назад
Yeah that’s why the real problem isn’t nepotism, it’s a lot further than that
@joelleweir9535
@joelleweir9535 6 часов назад
I've always thought that we need more artists from lower and middle class background to share their experiences and diversify the art❤❤
@jenksjax
@jenksjax 2 часа назад
in german we have a nice word for it, it's called "Vetternwirtschaft", a "vettern" is a cousin and "wirtschaft" means economy, it has the same meaning as nepotism but it's less about stardom and more about normal job positions or opportunities
@blank68503
@blank68503 День назад
Cara delevine, the hadids and kendall jenner are probably the most recognizable models for people who dont know much about the fashion world currently, all of them are nepos
@soldecle
@soldecle 5 минут назад
Lisa I’m glad you said this people care so much about insignificant gossip things and discuss it until the ends of times while actual impactful choices are being made but you’ll never see the internet discussing those issues
@jaxj968
@jaxj968 28 минут назад
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ABOUT NEPOTISM MODELS
@thecritiqque
@thecritiqque 22 часа назад
LOVE this framing and editing!
@lucies1165
@lucies1165 7 часов назад
Girl this slays. Thank u for your thoughts on this!
@sadiathumani3453
@sadiathumani3453 17 часов назад
The way your feeding my attention span with those runway videos playing on the side
@gracelament
@gracelament 23 часа назад
I hate to say it but when it comes to art a lot of interesting ideas, concepts, uniqueness comes from the varied experiences of living a life outside of the upper class bubble. Not to say it’s impossible to create good art in that context, but that it will all become very bland when thats the only perspective you have. Like you said, artists in this world often have to poach other people’s ideas and perspectives to keep their art fresh. For example, drag has become so influential on our current culture, was born out of queerness and expression in oppression. Yet it’s become so watered down in its many repackaged forms that you could be a full fledged homophobe using slang taken from Paris is Burning, wearing a cut crease, etc. If average people stopped creating culture we would notice. The mess of life is what is at the centre of all this great art and it is what the upper class will choose to remove first from their lives when given the chance.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
going to gallery shows and seeing drag queens that uphold the system, that come from very rich privileged backgrounds is really something. Nothing about their performances is art as it was for the real drag queens. Drag scene was intertwined with art and politics, it was instrumental in community building during aids crisis. Now it's just a bunch of rich kids doing VERY poor vogueing, thinking they are somehow in the same lane
@dhsf5937
@dhsf5937 13 часов назад
No, drag came from the fact that women weren't allowed to be part of plays, gay people as a community startied copying it and renamed it as drag.
@Lunaiinmidnight
@Lunaiinmidnight 13 часов назад
I agree that genuinely transgressive art within the upper class context cannot exist without the ideas outside that bubble. The point, I think, is to show solidarity to the marginalized (instead of stealing) and embrace the harsh reality that the elite class strata in which this art is created within should not exist to begin with. But that requires a level of self-deconstruction and critical reflection that very, very few are willing to exercise.
@barbietarbox
@barbietarbox 16 часов назад
that miumiu diaper is bothering me more than the models
@nourali7701
@nourali7701 День назад
OML WE NEED A VID TALKING ABOUT FEMALE RAGE, LUV UUUUU ❤❤❤
@nearthgg
@nearthgg 4 часа назад
Oh it’s hard. It’s the art world. My boyfriend is extremely talented but came from a poor background. Got himself into cranbrook for his masters. Still the nepo kids are the ones that keep going because they are the ones that can afford to just set up a gallery
@FeralCreatureOfIncredibleRoses
@FeralCreatureOfIncredibleRoses 19 часов назад
I'm not saying where I work but basically it's a very small department somewhere in an important institution that contributes to the fundaentals of society, and the shit I've heard about people getting certain roles due to the most menial of things, like yes relationships but also HOW THEY LOOK it's worth shitting yourself. There are lots of vital roles, and if there's an inch of public forwardness or even the possibility of your picture being in the public, they will consider the appearance of a person. And ageism, yes it works both ways, but I've seen the reason WHY all of these older ladies in the office get mad over the apperance of other women and where their snickers come from: Men in power are completely ignoring these highly intelligent and stabilized women in favour for someone they want to look at. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, and the things i've been offered with the pretense that I could date them or somesort of projection onto me of how good they'll look next to me, it's just such a distraction from what I am trying to do with my life. I want to learn and do things the right way, I cannot find the belief in me that some people are so spoiled as to just take something like OPENING FOR PRADA as unserious to not prepare for it. Nepo babies believe because they have good taste and connections that they can replicate the years worth of practice and education, and it's not true, never will be true, and honestly radicalising. Thank you from the dearest piece of my heart for adding to the conversation
@Leamcr7
@Leamcr7 5 часов назад
Same exact problem with actors. Brilliant voice actor (female, with no family background in acting) was nominated for a bafta, but ofc her male colleague whose daddy won awards for his work in the industry and is filthy rich won it instead of her. He keeps emphasising how much of a struggle an artist's life is, while he's coming from a background which ensured he could be an artist without ever facing any financial troubles. Some people think being poor or from a lower class or working class is "cool" and "edgy" and gives them a background that pulls at the heartstrings of the working class masses. It's so old and tired.
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 День назад
Nepotism is nothing new, and it didn't seem to bother older generations in the past. I think the reason us gen zers are especially frustrated is because while this small minority of people our age are being handed amazing opportunities that bring them further in life in bigger ways than most can imagine, most people in our generation are struggling just to find a job, with all the higher standards, fake job listings, lack of references, and employers ignoring applicants, all while being told by rich people who came from money that, "No one wants to work these days." or calling us lazy and saying, "See? This person who grew up wealthy, had famous parents, and went to better school was able to do all this at your age. What's you're excuse? You must be immature, dumb, or lazy!" Nepotism can happen in non-famous families too, even middle class families, like when kids start working in their parents' small family owned business from a young age or if the child applies for a job as a cashier at a store their parent or older sibling works at/used at work at, so they put a good word in for them so they can get in. Sure, it's not the same as being the daughter of Nicole Kidman or Johhny Depp, but it's still technically an advantage that many don't have. I'm actually one of those cases, which I'm thankful for, because I've tried applying for entry level jobs that are supposedly "open", but never hear from them, call a week after I applied, and be told, "We're full. We don't need employees." My brother actually got scheduled for an interview, but was never told where he was supposed to do the interview, so he showed up at the store he applied to work at, and it turned out that they rented an office space in a completely different location and never told him. These employers just don't care, and unless you have a friend or family member who works there and can basically put a good word in for you, it's really hard to get in, even to just get a basic job as a cashier, because you won't stand out from the hundreds of other teens/young adults who are qualified in your area. My brother and I are fine, but most people don't have that privilege. We REALLY need to fix the job market, not just for the modeling industry, or even the entertainment industry, but for all industries, because it's getting harder and harder to just get a job, let alone climb the ladder.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
it has always been an issue, it's just easier to see just how outrageous it is in any society that doesn't have real equality when it's on our screens 24/7
@dzrmgkva
@dzrmgkva День назад
I remember Lisa's old video about morals of art industry and wish for contributing to the society in more meaningful way. Back then I was more angry and kinda ok with art being meaningless, good only for artist themself. Yet i guess I healed cause mb would have been great to be doctor or engineer or i dunno even cop (even tho they suck). Mb in perfect solarpunk world people would be studying in meds or doing something mandatory for society and art would be something less capitalized, just for community building or therapy etc. I guess we still can volunteer or just be decent people, but idk if it enough for contribution. Art is not evil, evil are people that hoarding all our resources and making everything to make us suffer.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
not a cop though babe ahaha teacher, architect, cook... anything that creates instead of destroys
@melskmelsk
@melskmelsk День назад
Real class analysis is challenging in the imperial core. Deflecting onto sparkly nepo celebs is easy. Side note Willem Dafoe had the best walk on that runway
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
exactly ahahah it's easier to "battle" the unfair treatment in modelling to create an illusion of change than having to actually change the entirety of what we're doing
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc 16 минут назад
I totally agree to your point I generally wished this discourse would lead more people to realize how almost scarily nepotism has taken over every job from corporate level to entry level to even small indie businesses it feels like unless you have a impressive self made resume or is connected to someone or a group of people to your job you can’t get a regular job now a days. I think besides the cultural obsession of celebrity and the entertainment industry, another factor to why nepotism in entertainment/arts hyper-focused is bc of how much of the world has viewed having a lifetime career in the arts as not a serious job the way having a similar job position in medicine/heath, business, criminal law, food service, etc are looked at so it easily becomes exclusive and as a result it becomes one of those industries that you can’t just get in for the hell for it, once you get it, you gotta make sure you succeed or have sustainability to it, so it’s easily hard and difficult but to make it harder by bringing nepotism and elitism it’s gonna bring a massive rage for a lot of people. It’s bad enough for longtime folks were told by family and friends that trying to be a dancer, model, writer or actor is completely unrealistic bc to a certain extent it is but then you make more realistic by creating this massive caste system between the common folks VS those were families are already in the game or people who come from wealth to not worry about the hardship years of grinding. It’s says something how crazy the arts have increasing become inaccessible to anyone who isn’t well connected or come from wealth, you can trace this back to the 1980s thanks to western politicians like Ronald Reagan and Marge thatcher who cut programs and bills that were meant to give proper education and easier access to the arts and the years/decades of capitalism, neo liberalism and unfortunate events (Wall Street crash in 2008 and miss Rona for the 2020s) lead to where we are right now.
@Mystic_Paths
@Mystic_Paths 17 часов назад
This privilege can feel frustrating to those who don’t have such advantages and must work harder to succeed.
@anaiswaterson8463
@anaiswaterson8463 22 часа назад
This might be annoying but I rlly love your taste in art and gg’s and im pitching that you and bississant do a vid where its building the idea of a girl group from the ground up like concept , members , member positions , creative direction , music genre. And it could be a band even and then show each other or do a poll for the winner
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
ooohhh that's a cool idea!
@MarvelLio-u1s
@MarvelLio-u1s 12 часов назад
I wouldnt even be that mad at nepotism if it just helped you get your foot in the door since that's just networking but the fact that it gets you hired, promoted and better paid than everyone else...
@NellyNutmeg
@NellyNutmeg 16 часов назад
Compared to Shalom Harlow, no one can walk the runway correctly. The walks are dull and uninspired
@anaiswaterson8463
@anaiswaterson8463 22 часа назад
I don’t know if that can ever be fixed , that disparity is what that world thrives on especially in the world of modelling. If u are poorer u definitely will be taken advantage of by the industry and be overworked and treated worse. After all what incentive do these people in charge have to treat u well? You’re not Nicole Kidman or Kate Mosses daughter. I know in a couple years her daughter is going to give a Kendall , lily rose Depp or Kate Hudson level take in interview going “this runs in my blood I had no leg up at all you guys are just poor , hateful and jealous of me 🥺 I’m just strategic and hardworking!”
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
it can't be changed in modelling alone(in isolation). It will change however, if the we build an entirely new system.
@mrsnobody2637
@mrsnobody2637 День назад
I think its a big problem that people in different art spaces set making money as their goal instead of creating something worth calling an art piece
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
some of them really think they're making art, even when they don't ahahah
@mrsnobody2637
@mrsnobody2637 День назад
off topic but the 28 reasons poster🤩🤩
@mimiche967
@mimiche967 7 часов назад
Nepotism is so widespread it's crazy. That was the case when i was in highschool. My grade was separated in two classes, class A and class B! I was in class B. I come from a poor uneducated family, plus I'm from a village, while my highschool is in the nearby town. A lot of the students in class A were from wealthier for our region families, who also had connections with the local town hall, so a friend of mine was in class A and straight up told me that these students get their high grades because of their parents, and usually the parents and teachers know each other. When we graduated highschool back in 2020, during the ceremony the top students from the grade were also given a trophy for their high grades. Out of all 7 top students, i was the only one from class B, the others were exactly those students from class A that had their family wealth and connections to back them up. While I had nothing to rely on than my hard work, they had privilege! In reality nepotism exists everywhere, in every field!
@alechstaley
@alechstaley 5 часов назад
off topic but i didnt expect to open the video and see a seulgi poster 😻
@jaykaysdimple9718
@jaykaysdimple9718 23 часа назад
Nicole Kidman didn't throw her to the wolves. The internet forgets things easily. Give it 2/3 years and the internet will love her daughter again. I remember when everyone was hating on Addison Rae's lack of talent when she debuted in the music industry and now everyone loves her again. All you need to do is be relevant. So Nicole got it right. Her nepo baby has a long career ahead of her.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
well she would have a long career ahead of her either way, nothing she does will hinder it
@prettynpetty8342
@prettynpetty8342 22 часа назад
Rich people and their kids dominating the arts is nothing new. Your class decides the type of labor you do. I'm not even mad anymore. These kids don't HAVE to work. We live in a classist world so they get the pick of jobs to do.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 22 часа назад
that's why the world shouldn't be classist
@prettynpetty8342
@prettynpetty8342 21 час назад
@@LisaFevral and I agree with you.
@bobsayshello7112
@bobsayshello7112 3 часа назад
Kendell saying it actually made it harder just boiled my blood."i took of my name off my photos"as if millions of high end feshion designers dont know who she is. Please😤
@anaiswaterson8463
@anaiswaterson8463 22 часа назад
That miu miu show was quite ugly in my opinion 😭 only a few looks stood out to me and the stark difference between it and the Betsy Johnson show (obviously difference vibes) but in terms of cohesion and overall beauty idk why todays fashion shows are so lacking in terms of well EVERYTHING. And don’t get me started on the models walks and personality that they’re allowed to show on the runway
@lainey7157
@lainey7157 22 часа назад
It’s giving I’m 8 years old and my tank top straps are falling down cause they are too long, also my gym shorts shrunk in the wash. I wish I knew more about the fashion design process for runway brands because all I can think the vibe is supposed to be is “eccentrically basic” and rich people’s version of quirky y2k fashion, but a boring modern version 😭
@vivimaria7243
@vivimaria7243 9 часов назад
@@lainey7157 I didn't see this, but now this comment makes me think of the Balenciaga scandal 😭 Didn't Nicole Kidman work with them, as did Kim K? The way entertainment industry (among others) uses and abuses kids is horrific 🤮
@fishtailsauce
@fishtailsauce День назад
girl what hair products do you use?? looks amazing I need the sauce
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 23 часа назад
I don't really use anything specific tbh I just get whichever shampoo isn't going to break the bank ahahah but I think it looks shinier under the filming lights
@catmoon-
@catmoon- День назад
I noticed that a lot of people get mad about artists being from a privileged background (because they believe that rich people aren't as relatable or authentic) while not understanding that they should be mad at societal and wealth inequalities.
@aycaiix
@aycaiix 4 часа назад
off-topic but how unfair is life that some people can earn a living for simply looking good aka being a model. i know, controversial opinion to have, but i'm so sick and tired working my ass off and not getting anywhere when pretty privilege gave certain people lifetime paychecks. most of them don't even have further education or any other talent than looking good, walking and posing. done with this life.
@TallulahChanel
@TallulahChanel День назад
Very informative video
@jonathanedwardgibson
@jonathanedwardgibson День назад
Kirby Sommers reveals the Diddy-adjacent machinery that makes a golden voice like Mariah Carey on her knees to mafioso CEO’s on recording industry… and who/which families {Chandler} set the pace.
@idrinkpaintwater2501
@idrinkpaintwater2501 День назад
Any smaller artist recommendations?
@Jackie-cl2qe
@Jackie-cl2qe День назад
I'm not qualified to answer, but I have small artist friends, so. Concentrate on your city. Having a small fan base makes it easier to plan events. It also feels more like a community for fans, like a little subculture thing. Don't compare yourself to much bigger artists, like avoid that at all costs. Keep creating. I hate self discipline, I quit when things get hard. Don't be me. There is a reason theater kids are so stubborn. Be delusional. Good luck out there 🫡💗
@tika2406
@tika2406 День назад
Beyoncé
@k.s.4843
@k.s.4843 5 часов назад
I truly wish there were more legal clinic liasons with art schools/ small local artists. So they could learn their rights and also give them more access to IP protection. Its not the solution but ive seen it help
@alkinoose7030
@alkinoose7030 18 часов назад
We love a class conscious queen
@ima.1766
@ima.1766 Час назад
Spill the tea!
@3Diana
@3Diana 21 час назад
I couldn't become a model because I couldn't afford to travel to the capital city of my country for castings that there was no guarantee I'd get, not going there often also meant not building a relationship with my agent, this all was also a barrier to them sending me "out" to the real fashion capitals because my hips were around 3-4 cm too big :') If they weren't they probably would've invested in me because they liked everything else about me. I was fainting from "diets" but my anatomy couldn't let my hips be 90cm. Not having money and being "fat", (in a way where other normal people thought I was scary underweight) was the barrier why I couldn't do it. A few years later Gigi Hadid debuted with a feel good story about body positivity and how she's not going to starve herself for jobs. :')
@nichepeach
@nichepeach 23 часа назад
Hey I really hope it's just a bad cold or something and that you feel a lot better soon :(((
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
I hope so too omg
@anaiswaterson8463
@anaiswaterson8463 22 часа назад
You should do a video about the personalities and rich under qualified ppl you’ve come across in the art space like a skit type video those drawing simple animation types I think it would get u so many views cuz from watching your podcast you and bi-sissant have such shocking stories 😭 like a emirichu or grade A under A type vid
@user-ui6lk7me2r
@user-ui6lk7me2r 4 часа назад
It’s also the amount of plastic surgery these nepo babies get to even be models in the first place. The whole idea of models is (mostly) natural beauty and being photogenic and we have a wave of models who have completely morphed their faces with filler and surgery and it’s very uncanny valley and not Kate Moss level face cards.
@nightmime
@nightmime 14 часов назад
please talk more about topics like this!! i’m starting fashion school in january after a gap year and i rlly wish i looked into the logistics of this before fully committing it while i had the time. this is my dream since i was a child and this video rlly helped me to stop and look if im doing this for art or not.
@FishareFriendsNotFood972
@FishareFriendsNotFood972 День назад
Maybe Miu Miu wanted the Nepo Baby aesthetic. In fashion, anything can be an aesthetic, it was for a while the 'quiet luxury' aesthetic, then 'Coastal Grandma' (which is also about cosplaying rich and white), and now perhaps it's trying to look like a 'Nepo Baby'
@CiaLaVirago
@CiaLaVirago День назад
That's not the case at all. Do you know how many time it happened for a nepo baby to open for a huge brand for their first show? Because it happens all the time.
@satanlucifer4437
@satanlucifer4437 2 минуты назад
Honestly I don’t get why people care so much about the models regardless; when I watch a show I’m looking at the clothes, the details like fit and color and material, and accessories. I thought most people tune out the models, but it seems like some people watch shows *just for* looking at the models, which is odd to me
@anonamos225
@anonamos225 19 часов назад
As long as parents can provide for their children, this phemomenon isn't going anywhere. It's all part of their inheritance.
@icaro_andstuff
@icaro_andstuff 19 часов назад
Yas new video❤
@mathilda2537
@mathilda2537 19 часов назад
Honestly I don't really care about nepotism in modelling, it has a shallow impact on the world and is a low skill job (with exceptions but most are unfortunately regarded as interchangeable flesh hanger), which is why so many nepo baby go for it instead of singing or acting. However, it is a caricature and a testament of what happens in the real world. I am in the equivalent of STEM in my country, with working class parent, and my experience is completely different from some people. Hearing people talk about their parents and older sibling doing their HOMEWORK in uni is mindblowing. We're talling about people that are going to work on bridges and electrical systems and such. Let's not get me started on debts and internships. At least, jobs that require a degree have standards which is not the case in more artistic ones.
@rune2O2O
@rune2O2O День назад
found out Alex Consani is a nepo baby and I can never view her the same but also it was so obvious
@bootyceps8077
@bootyceps8077 23 часа назад
How is Alex consani a nepo baby if you don’t mind me asking?
@ilonat8373
@ilonat8373 23 часа назад
How is she a nepo baby?
@amethystdream8251
@amethystdream8251 16 часов назад
I'm an artist that has no choice but to be self made, because the family ended up being a bunch of lost souls. Don't you guys dare complain about nepotism without handling your own envy first. Be honest with yourselves, it is definitely not only the nepos that need to take accountability here. How am I supposed to serve society beauty when it gives me nothing but ugly jealousy back? It's not even that hard to deal with jealousy, just develop a gratitude practice 🤦🏾‍♀️
@sabeaur
@sabeaur 21 час назад
the conversations we see surrounding nepotism are kind of reductive. i think thats the word i want. anyways. there will always be inequalty in various professional fields because society as a whole is unequal. and advocating for checks and balances on a fundementally hierarchical society is a waste of time. like do we just want more people to have access to the upper echelons of society, or would we prefer if society was not so clearly delineated along class lines at all.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 21 час назад
real equality, that's what we need. Solving nepotism in modelling is funny as a goal, when it is simply a symptom of inequality, and an inconsequential one at that
@lucidtofu
@lucidtofu 7 часов назад
Maybe I don't have eye for fashion, maybe I have bad taste, or maybe it's just not my preferred aesthetic and silhouette, but listening to you talk while having to see some whack outfit styling being modeled is honestly quite painful😅
@hello-o6z
@hello-o6z 3 часа назад
nah this whole situation reminds me of the north west in the lion king scandal. like their parents and everyone around them is clapoing and cheering „you are doing amazing! let‘s go on stage/ the runway!“ knowing damn well everyone is going to hate on it. just for them to be like „you are so mean to my child, how could you?!“ on the internet for publicity. they are literally exploiting their children, it‘s stick
@gobyfish1399
@gobyfish1399 9 часов назад
I'm fine with nepotism, if you prove you have the talent. You were the best person for that job, there were others equally good, but you got in because of your parents, fine, life is unfair, but if you were given the opportunity and you fail ..... get out !
@TheHopefulFae
@TheHopefulFae 6 часов назад
Mother seulgi spotted 🤭
@XxarnyxXx
@XxarnyxXx 4 часа назад
Cough, cough, justin, trudeau, son of pierre trudeau, all of the bushs, all of the kennedys...
@kated7840
@kated7840 22 часа назад
But what could i possibly do if i start my own brand and someone just steals all my ideas? (Also i love bestey johnson!!)
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 19 часов назад
there's really not much you can do but try to build some kind of support system and get more people to know your work so you can at least have someone in your corner when you inevitably will get ripped off
@abizek9342
@abizek9342 Час назад
this material have so many cuts, my god
@heatherhaven1268
@heatherhaven1268 21 час назад
Is it opening, or closing the shoe that’s the prime spot? I always thought it was closing but I’m not much of a fashion girlie…more into the making of than the displaying part
@imbobby3566
@imbobby3566 15 часов назад
Both are equally important in a career. Closing often is the apotheosis but opening is also great
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