I switched from Sony to the Leica SL2-s right when this video came out. Was worried I'd made a mistake, but so far I've been so happy with it. I'm excited to pick up my camera and I have yet to miss any important photos on a wedding day. It's weird to have taken a step back to the old days of AFS and single point... but it's working!
The lack of 3rd party lenses for Canon was definitely the reason I chose Sony for a new camera. The SOOC images aren't as good as my Fuji, but the images are sharp and the AF is superior. I did just trade my old Nikon gear for a Canon 5d classic, but it's probably the only Canon I'll ever get.
Fujifilm keeps me shooting. Sony delivers in a professional setting. That's why first time in my life I'll keep two separate camera systems. Sony files work great with Adobe suite, Fuji files are great, but I have to use Capture One.
I went from Nikon DSLR to Fuji , and now Sony, could not be happier. Issues I had with Sony is the color OOC were not pleasing to me, most of th time were over saturated and hard to correct in Lightroom
It's simple. Sony has a complete solution for hybrid, video and high resolution. Period. If someone else does the same, I may switch. Have used Canon and Lumix in the past.
I'm in a very similar mindset. I've moved to the Sony A7R5 because of the lenses situation with Canon. I'm going to sell my Canon and Leica gear and get a Sony A7C for everyday carry instead of a Leica Q2.
I’d enjoy seeing a video someday where you describe what goes into choosing when to shoot with Leica, Sony or Fujifilm and the resulting workflow. Finally with regards your comment about how one camera system vs another feels more like you’re operating a computer…honestly except for maybe a rangefinder Leica, modern mirrorless all do (especially if the first camera you touched was a Kodak Instamatic or Minolta SRT!!). Cheers!
@@benjhaisch slightly off topic, I too really like those Clever slim straps, but I noticed on your video unusually shaped split rings, that attach to peak design fasteners. Where did you find them?
I shot Sony from 2016-18 and then switched to Fujifilm. I tried to switch to Canon almost 2 years ago and had the r6. This was before they closed the mount and the body felt great in hand but I found the color science to be terrible,especially when compared to the R5. Ended up coming back home to Sony!
I had Canon from 1999 to march 2019 where I got Sony and I have not looked back since ! I am very happy with the Sony Camera and Lens system, I have Sony A7RIV, A7RIVA, Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, 24mm 1.4 GM, Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8, Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 65mm 2.0 Aspherical, Sony 135mm 1.8, 200-600mm 5.6-6.3 G, I can recommend all of these.
on the topic of having a camera that inspires you and another one that just get the job done... Well I decided I wouldn't want to choose between one or the other. I was shooting Fujifilm for fun and Canon DSLRs for work, I just switched to a Fuji camera body that I considered to be as good or better than my old Canon (in my case an X-H1) and never looked back
My debate is going with the Sony system or the Fuji GFX system (50s2 or 100s2). My xpro3 will always be my “fun” Leica substitute camera. I have been debating selling my Pentax 67ii system and moving to digital full frame/GFX for that side of work. 🤔 Film is just getting so expensive these days. 😢
I agree that the 3rd party lens options on Sony are great. However, I am finding that in the 70mm or wider ranges I am Getting rid of the Sigma and Tamron lenses since only the Sony lenses really perform well with Active Stab in video. No one talks about this, but it makes a huge difference.
Long time canon user and mostly do outdoor/wildlife filmmaking. And I understand but also hate that canon is gate keeping their tech. My 1DXMK2 will be out the door soon so I hope they allow third party to produce lenses otherwise i might be looking at switching
You should look into the new Panasonic S5II. They use L mount lenses. You can install luts and use them for photos. It's pretty game changing and no other camera company does that.
I left Canon years ago (had the 6D) when the A7III came out. The Canon EOS R just wasnt as good as the A7III at the time and I've never looked back. Now on the A7IV but got my eye on the FX3 too!
I made gradual switches. I chose Nikon at the time because they had the F mount instead of Canon changing their lens mounts over the years. Then, I switched to Pentax because they kept the K mount for decades. I’ve kept my Pentax k1ii FF and added a Leica and Fuji to the collection. Each of those three brands have something unique and different to offer me at a better value than canikon. I mean, come on…how could I buy a product from Canon when they even included “certificate of professional photographer” in their camera body boxes :P
I have both Sony and Canon gear (and Fuji). First in terms of AF latest canon cameras are on par with Sony. Especially when it comes to things like tracking birds. In fact, Canon R8 which has been on sale for $1199 forever had autofocus system lifted from R3 and 40fps with full autofocus which tracks not much different from my Sony a1. R8 also has three fastest sensor readout among cameras without stacked sensor, across all brands - 14.7ms. Sony a9 and a1 are great but sensor readout on a7r class and a7x class is atrocious. A7r5 has one of the slowest sensor readouts currently available among all brands which means you have to resort to mechanical shutter which is also the loudest ever and scares the small birds away. When it comes to canon lenses I agree third party lens block is an issue but the RF lenses canon release are to die for, take for example canon 28-70/2.0 which has sublime rendering and there is nothing in Sony camp that compares. Sony has some amazing glass too like 50/1.2 gm is amazing. Going back to canon r8 name any Sony full frame camera that can do the same for the price.
Yeah. I'll never go back to Canon after using them for 10+ years. I recently ran a poll in our facebook group for wedding filmmakers which had around 250 participants. Only 20ish percent of people use canon as their primary system now. Sony is up to almost 50% of the market. Pretty embarrassing. Maybe they don't care. My frustrations are- 1- Making me pay for adaptors to their new mirrorless system 2- Refusing to service older lenses. 3- Zero interest in what wedding filmmakers are doing. 4- Non-Canon lens capability and adaptors. 5- Their expensive, non-helpful CPS system that advertises lens borrowing during repair but actually doesn't seem to exist. See ya Canon!
Hey Benj, I know this video is just over a year old but I was wondering if anything has changed in your opinion? I've got a buddy who is upgrading from Canon EF and is a bit underwhelmed with Canon but has been hesitant to switch to Sony due to some stereotypes like color, skin tones, build quality bodies and lenses relying on software correction too much. Just wanted to send him this video if you didn't have anything else you'd change. Thanks man!
I'm in RED, so I'm also in Canon, which I do like. The R5C is better now than when it came out, but I've been eying the FX3 for a long while. I love that camera, and you gotta love the lens ecosystem.
I shoot stills only, and moved from Canon to Sony with the A9 5 years ago. Went back to Canon with the R5 for one main reason: the way aperture works with Sony. When you stop down, it actually focusses stopped down, where Canon always focusses wide open, only stopping down when you take the picture. This means a great deal shooting with shorter lenses stopped down in low light, in the studio for example. I just don't want to shoot wide open all the time..
Love my sl2s…. One of the best cameras I’ve ever used or own. I have pro canon bodies like the R3 for sports and action but I still prefer the sl2 body and user interface for normal photography, and love the files as well. No doubt the “SL3” will have Lumix phase detection in it.
I recently switched from Nikon to the Sony a7iv. I’m a mostly prime lens shooter used to shooting weddings with two of the same camera but I kinda want to choose something different to go along with the Sony. Just not that much fun having two of the same camera. Do you find this idea super risky?
My lineage is as follows: x100f-->xpro2-->XT3-->Leica Q-->Canon R6mii. Here are my thoughts...I loved Fujifilm and found the company to be great to deal with. Lenses are very cheap by comparison. Colors cant be beat, simulations awesome. However, AF really frustrating. Sold all to fund a Q and loved it. When it hit it really hit. Joy to use as a daily but started to feel limited on shoots so sold to fund the Canon. I knew about the embargo but jumped in assuming it would change. The ergonomics are so much better than Sony...feels more like a tool. Overall happy but started looking at my kit and realized with just three lenses Im sitting at almost $8000 and I still need at least one more to cover my bases. WTF. I am convinced now more than ever the embargo is here to stay. I am highly considering cutting my losses and jumping to Sony because of the sheer amount of options and getting another daily like a q2 because I really loved the camera. I shoot lifestyle portraiture semi professionally. Take care. The GFX is not off of the table either....
You should pair the voigtlander E(not a M mount lens so you get the benefits of exif data and magnification as you manually focus) mount 50mm f1.2 to the a7iv and let me know if you feel like using a Leica.
@@benjhaisch you are right about that. Every manual experience is technically like no other. But to each its own. What drives your passion and makes you do the best you can will always be the best for you.
Been a Fuji shooter for a few years now (X-Pro2 with primes) and use a canon R5C for work. But I’ve also had a canon R, which I now sold. And while waiting waiting for the R mk2 to arrive, I started to think whether I should hold on to my old Canon EF L lenses, or just sell them on and go with the A74. My main interest is in the new contemporary Sigma lenses which are available for the E mount, but probably will never be for Canon, and if they are I bet they would loose the aperture ring anyway. I basically want that same tactile and intuitive feel to a FF camera that the Fuji gives me with all its dials, without having to actually sell my kidney for a Leica 😆
I have was using both Canon and Sony and lately I bought the Leica SL-2s, now Im selling ALL my canon RF lens and R6, the L and M mount is so much more fun, and RF don't even got professional 35mm and 28mm......
Just sold my R5 and all my RF lenses today. I am done with Canon for all the same reasons, including my Leica M mount lenses not being great on the Canon. My wife has an A7R III and I've just fallen in love with it. I've only been using my Leica for the past half a year, with only a couple of shoots where I've needed my R5. If I buy into another AF system, it's definitely going to be Sony.
Have you seen newest Canon kit zooms? They, as a company are completely out to lunch. No third party lenses, affordable R glass is meh, red ring R lenses are way to expensive. When they released their R5 I was tempted for a minute. I'll stick with Fujifilm and Sony.
The lenses are the main reason I did the same thing and moved from my Canon RF to Sony as of last week. I'll just stick to old EF mount Canon bodies, if anything.
I bought sony because when I got into it, a6400 was better than m50 with 4k video. Then when upgrading, the open lens ecosystem just makes it a no brainer.
Canon is smart because they are distancing themselves from all these youtubey shills and hopefully will focus on cameras and features that please the working professionals.
They are? Not like iconic EF lenses don’t work amazingly well on RF either. Clearly got the Sony 20% switch discount. They tried that with us but the FX6 and A7IV really didn’t convince me to ditch our C70s and R5/R6 IIs. The canon glass is just too good. And as much as you say RF glass is limited, Sony just doesn’t have anything like the 28-70 RF, any tilt shift lenses, and they’re just getting there with long telephotos. UX and reliability are also considerations.
@@glassworkscreative lots of my friends got broken hot shoe & shutter issue on Canon R6/R on the job. Also RF lenses tend to be much heavier & larger except 70-200mm. For Sony zoom at least 7 standard zoom lenses 2.8 24-/28-70mm. Choose depending on your budget & type of shoot. Lots of video shooter now want lighter setup, 28-70 sigma weight only 470g. Some doesn't have budget, using EF lenses for video, very front heavy & less ergonomic for long usage
Sony lenses have character? Compared to Canon? I quit watching there. Nobody says “that was definitely shot on a GM lens” whereas I can pick a Canon 85 1.2 or 28-70 f/2 out of a group of pics 10/10.
fascinating. I could probably tell you a shot from the old 85/1.2L, but no way I could tell you something from the 28-70/2. The 50/1.2 from Sony is pretty amazing
I don’t know how true it is but I was told by a high up chap from canon that they and nikon developed the new mounts so that in years to come super fast lenses would be easier to make but that the Sony mount due to its size would not be able to work with similar lenses ! Obviously depends on one’s needs but might mean the Sony mount will have to be changed at some point
I left Sony for Fuji. Sony has no soul, boring, and did not see real sharpness, very bad colors. Now with Fuji (X-H2) I have recovered the illusion and I have a lot of sharpness and nice colors!
Hi Benj, many many thanks for your wonderful videos. All your words worth a gold because you are the one take really nice pictures for jobs, be frank and really nice. Thanks. I would like to seek your advice for my jobs too. My wedding set-up are: 1. Main gear is “M10+28lux+50Noct” 2. Second key gear is “Pentax67+105” or “Rolleiflex” with NPH400 or Portra 400 3. Spare gear is “Sony+GMs” for get-the-job-done pictures I really want to seek your advice if I could replace my “Pentax67+105” with NPH400 or Portra 400 by the GFX50sii. My client loves the Pentax67 & Rolleiflex’s high key, low contrast, low saturation film NPH400 tone. But film is so expensive which I couldn’t justify to do it, even in a job. After reviewing all your videos, I find that all your raw-edit are great. Your videos educate me that, even with a sony’sRAW + edit skill + your presets, I could achieve the look. I honestly love your photos edits for wedding. But I never come close to edit like you and I am lazy. I wish to achieve these looks without a RAW edit. Do you think “GFX’s jpg + recipe” can do the job? Am I able to achieve the “high key + low contrast + low saturation + square format + NPH400 tone”? Of course, these will not be 100%. But I am thinking it may reduce my workflow time and $ for film on my Pentax67 part of presentation. Indeed, should I dump my sony for GFX if the jpg are great? Sorry for such a long question. Hopefull you could offer some ideas before I jumping into another system. Thanks a lot. (Btw, I hear some say the GFX50sii magenta shift issues…but 100s is expensive as a second camera for “wow” effect.)
I think the GFX + 65/1.4 Mitakon does really give a similar look to that Pentax 67+105 look, but the JPEGs aren’t something that I’d rely on for weddings. If I did, I’d always shoot RAW+JPEG too just in case.
Every camera has temp/tint shift issues but it's not something I found to be an issue in the raw files. I still only own the original 50S but don't use the JPEGs on it
@@benjhaisch thanks so much. I think I’ll try to use my current “M10+Noct1.0+some film preset +67 format” first. Lazy jpg is not an option. Time to work hard. Is your preset has Capture One version?
Be careful jumping into bed with a camera company as they will tell you to ditch Leica. I shot Sony for nearly 3 years (A9) and found it to be some of the most frustrating years of me shooting weddings. I developed awful habits of shooting everything through live view, my shot rate doubled, editing time doubled, found I was not looking for the moment just shooting on high burst. I felt that the art of photography is severely diminished with these cameras and so I switched to Leica for everything. Afraid I disagree on the focus system in SL2-S . In continuous it’s never failed me, it’s weird that it doesn’t track in high speed but other than that I find it spot on. in one shot it’s slow granted, slower than Sony but still accurate If you want thousands of shots, everything in focus then go for Sony, if you want to think about your craft , perfect your technique and enjoy shooting don’t use Sony as it will drain that from you Just my 2 cents
Haha, believe me, no one is telling my to ditch Leica, especially from Sony. As I mentioned in the Q&A portion, it's a balance. Unfortunately the SL2-S missed too many photos at actual weddings that I had with the 50APO. Beautiful combo and experience, but when it came down to it, I didn't want to spend more than double and worry about missing frames.
Lots of professional photographers shoot with Sony and get along just fine. Not sure how you struggled with a Sony which has much better focusing tracking modes than an SL2. Still, at the end of the day, whatever you feel comfortable using.
I couldn’t give a hoot. Benj obviously has a bottomless pit of money…. Tbh his videos are getting weird as he’s a gear freak. All working pros I know keep their cameras for years and create amazing work, Benj changes his cameras and lenses as much as someone changes their underwear. One minute it’s Canon, then it’s Fujifilm, Hasselblad, Leica and now Sony. A veritable brag fest. After a while these RU-vidrs lose their credibility in my eyes.
I switched from A7iii to Canon R7, love the cheap RF lenses like 24-105 STM, RF 100-400mm STM. Also prefer the ergonomics of the Canon body. There were lots of trade offs, but I am happy with the switch.
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