"Surely the US wouldn't havegutted their incredibly impressive rail network if the replacement wasn't even better, right? It must be incredible!" Chinese government officials, probably
isn't this also a big reason why a majority of car accident videos on the internet is russian dashcam footage? russians are basically able to do the exact same thing
It also doesn't help the government corruption takes away any and all real funding for things, meaning nothing is finished before they are open access.
Similar but also different to the USA, there are a lot of funds for housing but government regulations supported by homeowners who don't want their home value reduced make sure nothing is finished as well
fun fact: there is an alarming amount of people who buy cars they cant afford for chinese new years to impress their family, drive it only for those holidays and let it rot away completely unused for the rest of the time
Nah, i literally found only one source on it and it was this RU-vid channel that literally only posts things about China that are very negative and sensationalized so i wouldn't really believe it
I once worked with a guy who's family moved from China to the US when he was a kid (13 or younger iirc), and he told me that people in China don't actually have driving schools or DMVs. The parents would just have the kid sit in the driver's seat and just teach them basic knowledge. Obviously, this was a culture shock when they were told that the Chinese way wasn't going to work in the US, and that they needed to get a license or get in trouble.
And the US driving tests are a very, very low bar to pass. They are a joke compared to most of the developed and several parts of the developing world. A friend of mine has done the driving tests in the Netherlands, Oman and Arizona. The one in Arizona was a joke compared to the other two.
I'm finally understanding why the "Asian/Chinese people can't drive" stereotype exists. As a second generation Asian American I thought it was just xenophobia, and a lot of it is, since my mom is a very responsible driver, but if you just got a car and you have parents who didn't drive and can't help teach you, you probably would be a worse driver; and that's probably how the stereotype was born
If I remember correctly, it's also because the cities are more densely packed, and thus, the few that did drive had to drive like their lives depended on it. Everyone HAS to be the first one at the office. They're gonna drive like it, and it just adds more to the pile.
There's a bridge in NC called the "Can opener bridge" because large trucks keep trying to go under it despite signs and warnings about the low ceiling. It has a whole website dedicated to videos of truckers and RV drivers trying to slip under and fail. It's hilarious.
Yes, 11foot8 has been around on RU-vid for over a decade. Your point is? I think some of the signs they use are clumsy at best. "Overheight nust turn" is not a very clear sign to me. The USA has a lot of poor road signs with a lot of words, and often too many of them and mixed with a lot of other signage. My my country we have a maximum of signs per 100m, as otherwise most drivers will not be able to read them.
> speculative real estate bubble > horrendous road design > obnoxious tourists As an American I’m just mad that they’re better at being Americans than we are. We’ve been outjerked
@Girlandsilly it's true, after the introduction or reveal that transformers/cybertronians have been here on earth for as long as we have, it starts off in Shanghai, China, where as in Transformers 4, K.S.I moves it's location from USA to Hong Kong
The most chinese way of solving problems is denying that you even have a problem to save face and maybe bribe some local or regional officials into actually doing something
7:10 In China it's considered unpatriotic to publicize ways in which China is worse than other countries. So issues like driving accident rates go unaddressed because no one wants to be the guy to lose favor in the Party to bring it up.
I think part of the reason so many more crash Videos are coming out of china is just how much more surveillance there is. If US streets, or, god forbid, Russian streets had an equal amount of surveillance, we'd be seeing alot more.
I don't like to be the "Well, actually..." guy, but Russian car crash videos have been incredibly common for well over a decade on the internet, specifically because their cars are required to have dashcams. Because of that, there's just an astronomically higher chance to catching an accident as it happens on footage, and since it's easily accessible (as opposed to street surveillance cameras), tons of such videos made it to the internet and created the "Russian drivers" memes.
@@Horvath_Gabor Dashcams have never been mandatory in Russia. Saying this as a Russian myself. They became common in the 2000s as a way for drivers to prove their innocence in case of a crash, or if they get pulled over by the police. The corrupt traffic police, and insurance scams (which were common at the time) were a large driving force. And to this day there are still situations where it's very hard (if not possible) to prove your innocence without a dashcam.
Something that has to be mentioned is NOBODY INDICATES. Not even official taxis! The only ones who seem to understand it are the bus drivers. It doesn't help that they also copied the driving laws from the U.S. (e.g. turning right on a red signal) which makes crossing the street a real life crossy road game.
On the using devices while driving, i once had a boss that threatened to fire me if i didn't talk to him on the phone while i was out driving during the workday for some work related reason. Specifically, the person would be calling, i'd pull over and answer, they'd ask me where i am because they have instructions, i'd say i'm pulled over here(location) it's fine i'm not driving and they'd get angry because i'm wasting time not driving while this conversation is happening. I'd tell him that he doesn't pay me nearly fuckign enough to risk my life like that, so i WILL ALWAYS pull over if i need to use a phone in that situation.
No matter how much you’re getting paid, this is valid. Despite the US Healthcare System’s attempts, you can’t put a price on life. And of course, the “it’s not legal for you boss to force you to break the law” part. There’s also that.
The biggest issue with U.S drivers is the people. Laws don't exist to them, and most people view speed limit signs as a minimum. On top of that people will just run red lights and stop signs, not even turning ones. Solid ones. Which is a problem when the chance of dying in a car accident is almost 100% when you go over 60mph. If I had a penny for everytime I saw people going 80 on a 55mph road in a single year(I only go out 1x a week) I'd have about $200. Which does also explain why I have seen 15 fatal crashes on the side of the road in that same year. Within a few miles of my house.
@@BeckyNosferatu It was mind numbing when I was watching a video explaining "dangerous intersections in the U.S". Guess why they're dangerous? Over 400 people run the red light in a year. At one intersection. That's not a dangerous intersection, that's a dangerous population. They should have their licenses revoked and cars towed. It would save lives.
@@LycanFerret It seems that here, no one can figure out a 4-way stop. The amount of times I've seen people just ignore the stop all together is just shocking, to say the least.
@@BeckyNosferatuofficial reason why US has (almost)no roundabouts is that most drivers don't know how to react when intersection doesn't have traffic lights.
God, imagine my eyes when I see someone mention "Yeah, the speed limit signs are viewed as the minimum speed to drive in". That's not true and they are the "MAXIMUM" amount of speed you should have, or at least target or stay "CLOSE" to the number before you get pulled over for speeding or driving too slow in traffic.
There’s also an interesting thing in the culture of the PRC where the concept of “fate” is taken *waaayy* too strongly, so the idea is “if I die while driving, then that’s just my fate”, and thus actually trying to be as safe as you can as a driver is often just completely disregarded.
I thought that this was going to be just some racist point of view, but the argument that everyone is just new to driving is actually very valid. Add that to new big infrastructures and high amount of surveillance cams, you got #1 liveleak traffic accident contributions
Because IT IS. , like literally it's in the middle of nowhere why a speed limit? The Autobahn is sour ended by a forest and much more traffic and barely any accidents there
chicago is A DAMN GOOD EXAMPLE like deadass there are so many exits on one highway we took the wrong one and the detour cost us 45 FUCKING MINUTES. fuck the dan ryan
I remember when I learned that having your phone out in the car is basically the equivalent of drunk driving, because of that reduced reaction time. People die more because you're not supposed to defend yourself- so that makes it WORSE.
I was born and raised in Vietnam and traveling to the US and driving in the city here was like lowering the difficulty and anxiety levels, you drive in Vietnam (especially in a car) expect to be swarmed by motorcycles and mopeds in rural areas because I’m sure for every car there’s 20 bikes
Regular chinese people werent allowed to buy their own car until 1992 or so, so the oldest "normal guy" chinese driver is probably in their 60s at the most. And in 1992, cars were very expensive for the average chinese person, they only started to be obtainable in the early 2000s or so.
Born in the US, but raised in China. When I was young, there was almost no cars on the road. Currently visiting my family in China and there are TOO many cars. I’m only in my early 20’s, so that tells you how fast they’re processing and how many new people still are to driving in the county. You have to yield to the cars, not the other way around. It’s literally like playing bumper cars, the lines on the road might as well not exist.
honestly the car drivers are not the main issue, it's the moped drivers you need to watch out for because for some reason it feels like half of all moped drivers are just constantly on some kind of substance
It's the same issue with city and highway cyclists in the west. They're either a pedestrian or a vehicle depending on how the rider sees fit several times within the span of seconds so that they remain the victim no matter what. I see videos of big PRC intersections and you have galaxy brains on mopeds swarming from the walkways and cutting through the intersections and back onto the road EN MASSE, traffic lights be damned
In aviation we have something called the Swiss cheese model. It is a model to show how/ why accidents happen. essescly it's almost never a big issue that causes accidents its always smaller issues that line up purfectly. The more little issues the more likely the holes will line up and people will get hurt.
2:04 true. It’s silly to ask people to speed (go faster than they normally would) while also asking them not to speed, especially on empty roads. I get it for merging though because the slower the merge the easier it is. There’s one merge near me that has the road go 45m and it's so easy.
Honestly I think the answer to a lot of traffic-related issues in large countries like China/US is a lack of motorbike adoption due to perceptions that riding one is inherently more dangerous or carries a higher lethality rate, when said dangers and lethalities are typically the result of _other vehicles_ being a hazard and/or reckless driving. Place on top of that the market trend that cars should have as little driver feedback as reasonable to push a 'luxury' ride makes it a lot more difficult for new drivers to understand the handling of their own car. Motorbikes, beyond obviously being a lot smaller and as such less prone to congestion, impress on someone a keen sense of speed, surroundings, road feel, and yaw rate, which is very important for _any_ kind of driving, let alone adverse conditions. Learn on two before you drive on four, I say.
Fact: Online maps in China like Amap, Tencent map and Baidu map are super detailed on road signs at certain points and warns the driver when over speeding and points out speed cameras since there's no highway polices (emergency police cars only). Also, the maps show the exact time and direction of traffic lights indicating live on your fuking phone. This honestly blew my mind away when I first visited Guangzhou. Also, I assure you that lots of accidents happen because of young drivers with less than 3 years of experience. Online maps now show how much experience the driver needs to drive on a certain road
Probably my favorite video on China. Was expectant of racism or thinly veiled racism. This was actually brilliantly made, comedic, and I loved it. Subbed. Wanted to add Chinese people have insane public transit systems, so the need for cars is just simply not a need as much as a status symbol.
They should support more urbanism. I know they do trains, but they really don't do much else, also they don't have any “third places” but part of that is to stop/discourage protests.
@@porcelaincrown Urbanism generally refers to designing urban areas in a way that makes the more efficient transportation modes more appealing. Rather than what a lot of places try to do by widening roads to try and accommodate more and more cars. And in the process making those other transportation modes less practical and more dangerous, so more people end up needing to drive.
To add to this: china will often take shortcuts in building anything. So if you’re driving down a mountain and hit a barrier, it might not stop you from going off the road. Not to mention the safety standards they have in building their cars.
You hit a nail on the head: THEY NEED MORE NARROW ROADS AND LESS STROADS!!! These megacities could get some amazing subway lines built, since there's virtually no one there now. A lot of the stroads could get converted into bus only lanes, and they could put in dedicated bike lanes, too.
When I was in China, nothing annoyed me more than watching people drive. No concept of lane discipline or right of way. Taxi drivers watch videos on their phones half the time. Random cars stop in the middle of the road for no reason. And anytime I brought it up, everyone just acted like I was stupid for caring about the rules of the road. Meanwhile in the US, people lose their shit if I sit at a green light for 2 seconds
Omg family guy was right. Joke goes something like this Asian lady: How much time to let everyone know I'm going into another lane? None. Okay. Good luck everyone else. Goes across the freeway causing multiple accidents*
my parents were cops who used to spend all day on the road, my official driving instructors were good, my drive to school was an hour round trip, and that route forced me to get used to highways, offramps, and double roundabouts. this video makes me appreciate how lucky i was to have those things, because i didn't even know you could fuck up using an offramp that badly
2:50 Seattle resident here. I can confirm that driving off of this thing is well.. impossible at times. It's a damn near suprise how the city hasn't closed this down yet given the number of times people have nearly slammed into that wall at mach Jesus coming off the freeway. Now you may say "well they should have plenty of time to slow down right?" Well thats not a bad thought if you where outside of Seattle. However that isn't the case here. You only have about.. id recon 600ft to slow from 60 to 25. So unless you slam on the breaks, you ain't stopping
I’ve heard in denser places like Russia and China (NYC too, tbh), the threat of others trying to ram into your car and claim an insurance check out of it is rather high, hence the need to record everything yourself.
Cut corners in construction, no regulatory oversight and weak or ignored traffic laws. The perfect recipe for dangerous roads. I've never been to China, but I have been to Korea, Thailand and Vietnam. Korea was the only place I felt safe driving.
As far as I know there’s 2 reasons driving in china is so shitty. 1) there’s basically no traffic enforcement. Instead of a cop ticketing you for an offense, they just mail you one later. So no “oh shit there’s a cop sitting behind that sign, better not do something stupid.” 2) if you do get in an accident, people are at a very high risk, legally, if they try to help you. To the point of literally letting some dude die so you don’t ruin your own life. That and just an overall terribly designed traffic system. Like they straight up don’t have any intersections/right of way. The Chinese government had to put out notices on how right of way and intersections work, after some poor bastard on a trip to the US got his whole family killed in San Francisco; because they ran a red light in front of a fully loaded bus. Probably would’ve been fine back home, because “I’ll go and it’s on the other guy to work around whatever I’m doing” is the standard.
2:03 OTR driver here that long stretch of Wyoming is brutal but I'd say California is worse because we have to drive drive 55 throughout the whole state
Bruh. You guys are complaining about having to drive slow. 55 mph is not slow. That's 88 kmh. That's nearly highway speed where I live. My entire country would be about 60 mph.
@@kiwigaming09 on some highways you can go up to 80 or even 90 so it is relatively slow. Also consider that you're going 55 on multiple hour-long stretches of nothingness.
@@kiwigaming09 my guy, we have a lot of states that are bigger than entire countries. Texas alone has 2.8x more square miles than the UK, there's a reason an 85mph interstate exists there
china, you do NOT want our infrastructure. i mean it's already terrible over there, but i had a bit of faith they could at least get transportation right...
I actually got to see that Seattle offramp a month ago! I was in Seattle for PAX West, and thankfully no one had the idea to speed off out there and potentially hurt anyone, at least I hope, since I wasn't watching it all day
US also has a crazy overpopulation issue in many states, can't handle the metropolitization in rural areas where the infrastructure keeps getting changed thanks to transplants moving into states at a rapid pace and usually refuses to give adequate driver training especially to those who just moved to the US from another country. Take that into account and you'll see why driving in the US has gotten so bad.
I am glad to live in Omaha. Like I have never realized how small the city is compared to other cities. Also Ty for acknowledging the existence of Nebraska.
If you notice, there are no shoulders for you to pullover on Chinese roads. Meaning if your vehicle breaks you will need to fix it in the middle of the freeway
It's not strictly a Chinese thing. Plenty of highways in other Asian countries (like Japan or Korea) are like that. There's a lot of them in Europe aswell. It takes up less space, and generally they have a "smart motorway" system to automatically close down lanes in case of an obstruction.
It still shocks me how China had all the opportunities to make modern infrastructure and they still went the American way. In Tokyo (37 million people), most streets are usually around 4 lanes wide at most. Walking and taking public transport is very common. Meanwhile, if you go to Chongqing (23 million people), there are way too many cars. It just makes no sense
2:54 there is clear signage at this exit the whole way telling you to slow down to 25mph. people are ignorant and oblivious thats how these accidents happen
@@Stack-of-pokemon ....Just realized that i mispelled it, and yes, the believe in fate. It is a holdover from ancient china that Mao tried to exterminate, but he was unsuccessful
After seeing this as a german who just got his driving licence 2 weeks ago i feel very happy to get my first driving experience here where most people drive how you should drive, not like there in china
I'm (pleasantly) surprised at the dashcam videos of drivers slowing down for jaywalkers. I've been warned that the general practice for (mainland) Chinese drivers is to *speed up* at jaywalkers, and I've personally witnessed that literally within my first hour after landing in Beijing...
in my 2012 ford fusion, most of the features of my entertainment system will refuse to work while the car is in gear. equalization, making new presets, settings and stuff.
The other day I was watching a POV video of a Chinese guy driving a new Hyundai I was researching, and at one point he almost drove off the road because he used lane keep assist on an EXIT RAMP.
One thing about China culture(yes China not Chinese in other part just China’s Chinese) is that they really like to solve problem the brute force way. They just keep making one aspect better and better rather than trying to find than finding the full picture. Because…. Well investor, gov etc all really don’t like to wait for result and innovation. So they need to solve the problem with the shortest time period which waste lots of money which they are willing to spend just to be “look good”. It is what it is
