The Reason Why "Sector Dial" Watches are Undervalued (Omega, JLC, Longines, Patek) 

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Come to think of it now this should've been a 15+ minute long clip with many, many more examples 😆 A man of your sophistication would naturally gravitate towards a sector dial (or reverso) I'm guessing. Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip Bruc - I mean, Batman 🥃 Thanks as always brother

@@ID-Guy We spoke about the JLC reverso in one of your previous videos. So many watches, such little time, tiktok, tiktok. 🍻

@@ID-Guy The consequence of this is of course a second video on this topic. We are looking forward to see it!

Appreciate it as always Simmy! Just a bite-sized clip to end off the weekend 😉

They are something else George. I'd highly reccomend checking out a few articles on them. They're still very "under the radar" and the vintage models that can be found today are... incredible! Designs from a bygone era 😉

Great point about the lack of text Alvin. Such a simpler time when function was centre stage. Ah, what has happened to the watch world? 😆 I feel you with Omega. If it was in that 3K ballpark... what a smash it would be!

Means a lot, brother. Thank you 🥃 I've always thought of it like - do you need a Picasso on your wall before being able to share a measured thought about it? Put it this way, keeps me on my toes 😆 I can't think of anything more dull than to just have one watch in a presentation every week (there are way too many out there) Have a great end to your Sunday and thanks again man!

That's incredible luck Wrecked 😆 I've always been a distant admirer and even still today they aren't very popular at all BUT great opportunity for those of us out there wanting to add some diversity. Such gorgeous designs unlike anything else 🥃

And thank you for taking the time to watch the clip Oogie! Really means a lot when anyone can take the time out of their Sunday 🥃

Lucky you...is this line even still produced by JLC ? Can't seem to find them on their website (even the 3 hander). Love the chrono, would get it over a Speedy anyday :D

@@MasterSam85 no it was just a 2017 production. That’s why I was shocked to see it brand new sitting there. I have seen the geographic variant once since then at a JLC boutique in La Jolla. It might still be there if you call.

I'm such a fan of those MC's (I'm sorry that you missed out on one) Don't know if I love the Chrono or the Date more. And great call on the "Modern interpretation" rather than recreations. Maybe that's the spark these models need today? Thanks for taking the time to watch the clip Werner!🥃

best is jlc master control geographic sector dial, different from the look compare to other... the others looks similar

@@denmastur8996 couldn’t agree more. I Ow. That watch and the combination of functionally and design is a joy to the eye every time I wear it.

The JLC would have been perfect without the date window.

My eyes keep going back to the Longiness IMO thats the best looking

It's quite amazing how they all have legibility nailed. And then looking at it twice do you see the other 100's of lines and hash marks 😆 Great shout on the Tux (I considered it but thought it looked too "out there" compared to the others) and I've come across so many enthusiasts that love those gondolo cases of Oris / Patek / Longines! So awesome to see that this kind of dial exists with this model now too. Longines just keeps hitting it out the park...

They are a weird family of pieces but so diverse and interesting. Man, when that Omega dropped I thought "Yup, heirloom watch". This hobby... the depth it goes. Have a great end to your weekend brother 🍻

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Longines is Longines at this point 😉 I cannot recommend them enough. Automatic Chrono? Check. Minimalist Dress watches? Check. Original designs? Check. Value for money? Check. GMT complication that's COSC certified etc etc? Check. Does it get better? 🥃

@@ID-Guy seconded. One of the faves in my modest collection is the Record bluedial 38.5mm. Underrated and gets little love next to the newer Longines lines, but i just love it. Even number Arabics, impeccable sunburst, domed sapphire, mighty wrist presence despite its modest size..and the hands are perfection. Then come the tech specs and you know all about those. But hey, it's just a 30m WR dress watch 😁. Love your work, IDG! Big fan. KBO.

@@markikn3183 Classic 1950's style in a modern size, what's not to like? 😉 Thanks again for taking the time to watch the clip Otto and have a great end to your weekend!

Ah, a pleasure as always to do brother and thank you so much for taking the time to watch the clip! Enjoy the rest of your Sunday! 🥃

@@ID-Guy you do as well and I hope to have you on the podcast at some point 👍🏼

It's always going to be a personal preference thing at the end of the day. For us, designs and styles like that are "supplementary" I mean my Longines model was a black dial pilot chronograph 😆 But seeing that newly released CK589 has gotten the community excited all of a sudden (many are going out to pick them up). Maybe that's what the sector dial needs? A bit more romance (maybe a higher price tag & less offensive design?) 🥃

@@ID-Guy Maybe.

I'd love to see the same for Longines. It deserves waaaaay more love (something tells me it's slowly happening) And thank you for taking the time to watch the clip Dave! 🥃

And your 5212 is a gem... still so chuffed you managed to pick it up Jay! Thank you for the feedback on the 5296 (it's always grand to hear an owners perspective) Have a superb end to your weekend 🥃

And I missed out on some really special dials that I'm kicking myself about 😆 (Vacheron Cornes de Vache) Oh well, can't get 'em all. Have a great end to your Sunday Eric!

@@ID-Guy just your natural aversion to The Bulls ;)

@@ericb8888 Don't get me started hahaha! I doubt anybody here would get that reference 🍻

I cannot recommend Longines enough. To this day, still the best brand I've bought. Price, value for money, build quality, quality of movement (the list goes on) they do such a fine job with original designs. Love them! 🥃

Very nicely said Mark and I agree, so much diversity and value (and fun) to be found in this segment). The wannabe's are chasing everything that's Instagram worthy 😉 And as for selling your M3, not a bad call to free up some funds haha! Get yourself a hatchback and pocked the rest! Classic cars tally up the cash badly... This coming from a guy who bought a '68 Beetle as his first car and modded the hell out of it 😆

It's a pity that most have a WR of 30m's or so... We need "dive styled" Sector models damnit! 😉

It's annoyingly good, right? I'm thinking "Heirloom watch" every time I see it... Longines and Omega with their home-runs. It gets tiring I tell you 😆

@@ID-Guy it’s becoming a problem… I fall in love with watches more quickly than I’m able to afford them 🙃 every time I’m set on one and saving for it, another one drops to try to drive me off my path

Thank you Tim! I hope you're keeping well, sir! 🥃

You could be spot on with your analysis of Sectors eventually evolving into those insane (Omega Chronoscope) looking dials with Tachy's, Tele's etc. Great shout! Man, they are so gorgeous... I'm wondering if I should try source the Hodinkee Longines model...or sell a kidney for the Omega? 😆 Have a great end to your weekend brother and thank you as always for stopping by! 🥃

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They're all from another planet (when we look at todays watch climate) and I agree, always a lover of full numerals. Man, that CK859 is something else... what a great "heirloom" watch it would be to hand down one day! Hope you're doing well Karl (I've managed to kick the bug luckily after 3 weeks) 🥃

Those gondolo style cases are too cool. Man, we need more rectangle watches from brands 🥃

Habring was on my mind throughout the recording and I never wrote it down... it's so bad 😆 There was also mention that I missed the Cornes de Vache... shameful. Luckily I was savvy enough to include the 5296 haha! But they are gorgeous. It's so tempting to pick one up after making a video like this 🥃

@@ID-Guy Also, luxury brands like Voutilainen, and indie brands like Sartory apply a loose version of a sector dial. Take care!

Nuts, right? I should've studied them up more before doing this (I'd imagine they're made to order and out of most people's ranges) But such a clean, concise look. Exactly from the 30's in all its glory 😉

Imagine they gave it to us for 3K? What a killer it would be 🥃

Designs of a Bygone era. It's sad really BUT also gives us the chance to snag them for huge discounts 😉

@@ID-Guy yes that is true mate 🥃

I should've studied them up before the presentation but man... what a great use of lines. Really gives you that "ruler" feel with how it's been done. Also just love the proportions! Good shout Josh 🥃

@@ID-Guy exactly! I love how they convey so much info without the use of numerals.

@@joshn.5625 And pointed out in the comments, so few words on these dials. Those were the days 😆

It's those tiny details that make all the difference, brother. Love 'em! 🥃

I'm a philistine not knowing this was Lovecraft... Got to listen to an audiobook of this tonight! Ah, the ATMOSPHERE! Loved Cthulhu and Dunwich! Thanks for sharing brother 🥃

That JLC Chrono... man, what a watch. I'd have that machine in a heartbeat (and throw it on a nato) 😆 Have a great end to your Sunday Chris! 🥃

@@ID-Guy you ever thought of reviewing micro brands?

That CK859... some designs never age and this machine, I thought "Heirloom Worthy" when it came out. Such a great design of its time with no "fluff" on the caseback or anything. Just a simple, clear, everyday wearer with Omega's build quality. Ah, I'll be holding thumbs for you George! 🥃

Those 5296's are charmers. In steel they'd be uber collectable and I agree, like the JLC Master Control, it would make it 10x more wearable as a daily 🥃

Wow, this is a really tough decision. I feel for you. I have to disagree on "less refined build finish" - I suggest you go look at other videos on the Baltic. The finishing is incredible. Also if you are a fan of acrylic/hesalite crystal, the Baltic offers that too. The only thing you would sacrifice is indeed a lower quality movement. HOWEVER, the story is little more complicated than that. The Longines movement has a smoother second hand's sweep (3.5hz vs Miyota 8315's 3hz on the Baltic), while ALSO has 4 hours of power reserve (64 vs 60). It also uses free sprung balance, in addition to having a silicon balance spring - which is huge. Both of the mentioned features immensely improves a watch's accuracy, and in the case of the silicon balance spring - anti magnetism too. All these SWATCH group movements are easily within COSC standard OUT OF THE BOX. Free sprung balance on the other hand, while improves the watch positional variance, is a PAIN in the butt to regulate, if you do not have a special equipment. If you have any intentions of DIY regulation, Longines is not the way to go. So it really is the movement that you are paying additional $2000 for (plus the brand name). Because honestly Baltic's finishing is incredible on its own, and as someone who has always loved vintage watches' design AND purpose, acrylic crystal has always been preferable to me, no matter how much AR coating other brands are applying on their sapphire crystal. TLDR: you're paying $2000 more for an incredible movement but is MUCH harder to regulate. Baltic's finishing punches WAY above its price, and I prefer its hesalite crystal. I hope that my comment helps you decide. Cheers!

@@hieudang4849 thanks for sharing! I ended up waiting and my preferences changed. now I wanna get the new longines 39mm Zulu time instead 😂

What a cool looking Mido! Thanks for sharing this Michael (I've definitely seen it in articles before) And man... Imagine the Omega in Platinum? All the metals? I'm so down for that! 🔥

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First as always John. Have an excellent Sunday! 🥃

Love it David 😆 It's true, even this video won't push interest to owning Sector dials. Must say, between the JLC and Omega, I'd take both! The CK589 I see as an "Heirloom Piece" and the JLC just a phenomenal daily wearer. It's amazing how dynamic their designs and styles are for such a small niche 🥃

I'm in that ballpark too right now 😆 Buying a house is... well... demanding. Have a great end to your weekend Troy! 🥃