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The remote 'democratic' oasis of Soviet Russia - BBC REEL 

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The academic town of Akademgorodok in Siberia was created by Russian mathematician Mikhaïl Alekseïevitch Lavrentiev, who wanted to install a safe haven for scientists in the middle of Siberia. Such isolation from Moscow created a fertile scientific and cultural nest away from the influence of the State and its politics.
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@Earth098
@Earth098 4 года назад
It was a 'scientific oasis', not a 'democratic oasis'
@DippinSauc
@DippinSauc 4 года назад
Nope.
@tedubadu2536
@tedubadu2536 4 года назад
@@DippinSauc yep.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 4 года назад
Clickbait
@kosatochca
@kosatochca 4 года назад
Zeeshaan Ahmad Still somewhat on point, because the mastermind behind Akademgorok was the soviet physicist Lavrentiev who distanced himself from politburo and gave lots of support towards repressed or unwanted scientists including famous Lappo and many others playing the role as their patron. Even for the whole fields like genetics or sociology Akademgorodok was one of the few safe havens
@AbdulRasyidPangrango-qr9dt
@AbdulRasyidPangrango-qr9dt 4 года назад
"Soviet Russia" lmao....
@mtksbctk
@mtksbctk 4 года назад
That's where they breed the friendly red foxes 🦊
@phyllobolus
@phyllobolus 4 года назад
Exactly!
@Q_QQ_Q
@Q_QQ_Q 4 года назад
useless
@TheHumbleThinker
@TheHumbleThinker 4 года назад
We shoildn`t mess democratic values with a state-sponsored scientific city
@iGuije
@iGuije 4 года назад
Thank you so much for such an interesting story. It was like looking down a microscope, not cells but history. Beautifully done!
@AngloSaks666
@AngloSaks666 3 года назад
I was in Akademgorodok for a few hours one day in late 1992. Funnily enough I'd forgotten about it. Kind of weird to forget such a specific and probably (for a westerner) unusual thing. I was studying in St. Petersburg and a fellow student and I decided to get the train to lake Baikal. He wanted to break the trip with a stop in Novosibirsk, thus we spent a few days there, and took a car to Akademgorodok one day. We wandered about aimlessly, went in a bookshop and ended up with excercise books as souvenirs, then went back to Novosibirsk. There was a fuel crisis at the time, so the trains were full and we couldn't get tickets further, so flew back to Moscow, for about the equivalent of 3GBP. It was an odd trip in many ways, as was being in Russia and travelling around it at that time. I got to Baikal eventually in 97, up to Severobaikalsk even.
@rais.online
@rais.online 3 года назад
A similar 'democratic' oasis was the city of Dubna. It was another naukograd (city of science) in the USSR. It's not a surprise that many scientists, especially physicists, mathematicians from this type of the cities took the lead in the democratic reforms of the 80s during the perestroika and glasnost.
@SalveSalvi
@SalveSalvi 4 года назад
The city features prominently in Francis Spufford‘s great book ‘Red plenty’. Recommended.
@mikeshane2048
@mikeshane2048 4 года назад
I wish the documentary was longer
@martik83
@martik83 4 года назад
1:53 get the translation right for the date
@memorableoctopus3000
@memorableoctopus3000 4 года назад
I was there by chance and saw a protest. I was wondered because protests are strongly restricted in Russia. This place has absolutely unique environment of freedom and enlightenment
@SiiliViin
@SiiliViin 4 года назад
Yeah, but as you write, it was less than 10 years after established, until it grew big enough.
@posysdogovych2065
@posysdogovych2065 4 года назад
The lab mouse looks like Leon Trotsky.
@thegorb2653
@thegorb2653 4 года назад
Didn't really see any democracy in the whole thing
@robertrussell8965
@robertrussell8965 4 года назад
see DAU; Regeneration for correlation.
@gurindersingh8109
@gurindersingh8109 4 года назад
Did Ayn Rand know about this city?
@cardenas8995
@cardenas8995 4 года назад
Ayn Rand Was busy receiving state financed medical assistance
@mentalitydesignvideo
@mentalitydesignvideo 4 года назад
@@cardenas8995 and worshipping a psychopathic child killer
@MakovskiyRodion
@MakovskiyRodion 4 года назад
She is not a scientist or engineer. She is writer, and not good by the way...
@gurindersingh8109
@gurindersingh8109 4 года назад
@@MakovskiyRodion The idea of a hidden city of scientists upset with the mediocrity of the world is a theme in one of her fiction. That's that. Ayn was a popular writer.
@edelman8829
@edelman8829 4 года назад
I love how this whole thing is bashing the Soviet’s, when in fact none of this could have existed without the soviet gov
@paianis
@paianis 4 года назад
That's really not saying much since no amount of advanced scientific work needed to be confined to a remote Siberian town.
@kosatochca
@kosatochca 4 года назад
Patrick Harper There is like, I dunno, life in Siberia🤷‍ It’s not some barren desert
@phyllobolus
@phyllobolus 4 года назад
People in other countries perfectly existed without Soviet government. Soviet government, on the other hand, did everything to make Soviet people to depend on it.
@PaulV.
@PaulV. 4 года назад
@@paianis Life in Siberia is not really different from the life in the US Midwest. You are really pretty far from the capital cities events but that is not the frozen wasteland which usually Hollywood shows. And confined? That guy in the video has been in Paris 12 times.
@ammm-wq2mz
@ammm-wq2mz 4 года назад
@@paianis Akademgorodok is one of the districts of Novosibirsk. In Novosibirsk, for example, there is the production of SU-34 fighters, the production of fuel for nuclear plants). Here is one of the largest centers of virology, which is already testing the vaccine against COVID-19. There are chic theaters. Under the dome of the Opera and Ballet Theater, the Bolshoi Theater can fit. The film is very, very gray. Novosibirsk and Akademgorodok ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m8zk_evi-W8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u7_VZUhLSU4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6mHUfr1hBZk.html
@antonkutyrev3090
@antonkutyrev3090 4 года назад
This is great place. Very calm and peaceful, and a very friendly atmosphere in research institutes. One of rare places where they sustained 90-s collapse. A lot of young scientists; of course, many have plans to immigrate westwards, but not everybody. I hope in future this place will retain its leading position in Russian science, and, maybe, will be a centre of world significance.
@serega3000
@serega3000 4 года назад
By the way, communism not conflict with democracy. Communism only conflict with capitalism.
@serega3000
@serega3000 4 года назад
@Joseph Socialistic countries whole life is under big pressure of capitalistic countries because they scared of socialistic revolution in their own countries. In war times should be a hard government. And when socialists tried to be a friends, capitalists crushes them from inside (Clinton gave to Eltsin $2.5bil for his elections). Also the democracy in capitalistic countries is fake, because all media controlled by their owners and they control peoples opinion. For example, facebook and youtube in your feed show only news that he want.
@ggsay1687
@ggsay1687 4 года назад
Communism ideology maybe, but implementation sucks, forcing everyone to follow one party line, censorship etc.. But USSR never was communist country it has only idea of building communism, and communism is just thought experiment of Karl Marx, he said that capitalism will become communism, he didn't leave notes how to build communism from scratch. Communist party if USSR tried to build communism on agricultural society.
@serega3000
@serega3000 4 года назад
@Joseph do you know how much people killed by capitalistic countries. Its not from ideology
@katiezharova2423
@katiezharova2423 4 года назад
@Joseph but capitalistic countries go around massacring people in Middle East to bring their democracy and steal oil. And media says they only bring good to these countries and they're saving the world. Lots of people believe it, I read comments.
@wolfgeowild8709
@wolfgeowild8709 4 года назад
@Joseph WTF u talking about. Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia. Who the hell needed this "democracy" in the middle east? And Yugoslavia? Who the hell permitted those godsent capitalists to bomb an independent country? What about sponsoring orange revolutions and neofascists? Don't talk about human rights, capitalism is surely not about democracy.
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 4 года назад
I still don't really want to go there.
@arthurdoyle
@arthurdoyle 4 года назад
don't worry about it, they only accept scientists
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 4 года назад
Bring back the Soviet Union
@TheIvankuz
@TheIvankuz 4 года назад
As a Russian, I want to tell you no. I do not need a state in which the Russians are a second-rate nation with endless deficit and tyranny.
@nsa3679
@nsa3679 4 года назад
Nothing left of Soviet science though, thanks to Putin 🙏🏼
@vasionok
@vasionok 4 года назад
Do you work there?
@neveragain7523
@neveragain7523 4 года назад
ага да. великая советская наука - «сделай это до дедлайна или мы тебя расстреляем за саботаж». чел ты....
@alexmiller3349
@alexmiller3349 4 года назад
@@neveragain7523 100 триллионов учёных расстрелянных лично Сталиным
@nivelovet3844
@nivelovet3844 3 года назад
@@neveragain7523 Ты это на полном серьёзе пишешь, или это очень жирная ирония?
@nivelovet3844
@nivelovet3844 3 года назад
@@vasionok My father is working there. And now, sometimes they just haven't got enough money for paying electricity bills.
@adamme8369
@adamme8369 4 года назад
Talking about democracy? Lets talk about TV Licence. BBS.
@bukkaratsuppa6414
@bukkaratsuppa6414 4 года назад
Товарищи академики, называйте вещи своими именами: заповедник советского, сталинского духа в хрущёво-брежневском совке.
@Ms4y4a
@Ms4y4a 4 года назад
сталинский дух на общих могилах политзаключенных и в гулагах по всему заполярному кругу
@rheetam
@rheetam 4 года назад
Hey BBC and UK, this barbaric USSR saved your ass.
@sld1776
@sld1776 4 года назад
You mean, in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Yeah, no.
@quantrinh9824
@quantrinh9824 4 года назад
@@sld1776 in case you do not know, all Europe made friendship pact with Hitler.The UK, France even sign Munich agreement, which give Germany a free ticket to annex Czechslovakia.Btw the fact that Soviet Force advance through Poland when the government already beated and surrender to the German, so technically it seized land from Germany.
@LazyPictures
@LazyPictures 4 года назад
@@sld1776 You mean, in 1938 Munich Betrayal? Yeah, shut up
@manishmandal-78
@manishmandal-78 4 года назад
Leave Russia the way they are and mind your own business. (UK) You are slipping down. Someday soon your situation will be same as of USSR.
@mentalitydesignvideo
@mentalitydesignvideo 4 года назад
you should see photos of the UK outside of London (places like Manchester) all through 60's and 70's -- Soviet Union seemed like a luxury resort in comparison.
@GanderBeaver
@GanderBeaver 4 года назад
"soviet russia" ok boomers
@abhinavbharadwaj13
@abhinavbharadwaj13 4 года назад
Slava Russia
@maxkloss1720
@maxkloss1720 4 года назад
Russia is poor broke country
@woahgina
@woahgina 4 года назад
Poor and broke are the same things
@-LSC
@-LSC 3 месяца назад
I am proud to have lived a chapter of my life in this beautiful place. In the middle of nowhere, so I used to think, 3 years ago I started my master’s degree in financial economics in Novosibirsk, lived for 2 years in Akademgaradok and met people whom I consider till this day to be one of the greatest I’ve met - from colleagues to professors. Siberian people are built different. Don’t want to m as with them. One of the best decisions I’ve made in my human life. Warm wishes from Egypt to the icey part of the globe. 🤍🇪🇬🇷🇺
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