The Renewal - How the French Saved Frozen (Part 2) 

Says "torpeur" doesn't properly translate to English. Torpor: AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?

This makes me think of a translation trivia I realized a while ago, about Dark souls. In Dark Souls English translation, Seath title is "the scaleless." Since scales are the source of dragon's immortality, it makes Seath mortality a fundamental part of him. He was born mortal, and that's why he sided with the lords, because he could get access to his own mean of eternity. But in the french version, Seath is named "Seath l'écorché" (literally "Seath the flayed"). It implies that his mortality isn't something he was born with, but a punishment inflicted by the other dragons. So French Seath betraying is kind is about getting his revenge on them. And that affected a lot my way to see him, as for a long time, I saw him as a somewhat misguided victim of abuse and torture, while my friend who played the english version first saw him as a greedy and manipulative traitor.

My headphones broke right as you said "Do you like listening to things???" So I thought that was a part of the joke.

As a professional linguist, I utterly *LOVE* this little two-parter.

This is the EXACT reason I like Abridged series! Slight changes in a character's actions can completely change a story even if it has the same animation.

i need to finish learning french cause its sounds like the frozen i wanted exists across the Atlantic

This 12 minute video is paced so well it feels like a 3 minute video.

This is fascinating. After watching this, I wanted to take a look at the Land of Ice, the Polish version (the one I've seen in cinemas when it came out, and never again). Let It Go hews pretty close to the original English version, but there are some changes that seem to make the Polish Elsa (Polsa?) a lot more self-confident (at least I think so). Just for some examples: - Let it go itself is translated as "I have this power" (in the "this power is mine" sense); - where Amelsa(?) sings "it looks like I'm the queen", Polsa just straigh-up says "I'm the queen"; - when Amelsa sings "I can't hold it back anymore", Polsa instead goes "I'm going to let this power bloom"; - where Amelsa goes "my soul is spiraling in frozen fractals" (i. e. floating down), Polsa says "the wind is carrying my soul upward". Which is interesting, not just because of the changes, but because it also recontextualizes the meeting between Anna and Else in the ice palace. In Polish, it feel less like "I'm hurting and I don't want to go back", and more "Why are you breaking into my fantasy", despite the scenes going largely the same, and I think it could be because of those changes?

It’s interesting that the French version has a similar sort of feel to the song that was actually cut in favor of the reprise of For the First Time in Forever.

"What's yours like?" Is such a great question to ask, and should probably be how I take up conversations with my dub-watching friends in the future.

I went to check out how they translated Let it go in Croatian and Serbian and I noticed something. In Serbian she sort of gives off a feeling of resentment because she says a line "at least I'm not bothered by the cold" but it's sort of worded in a way that implies that she is saying she doesn't care everyone else is cold because it doesn't affect her, and the phrase "let it go" is translated into "now it ends/it ends right now". In Croatian translation she puts emphasis on her feeling of fear (she uses the word fear/scared multiple times). She says "don't trust them, hide everything, do what they ask of you" and "my heart swears I'll never go back because this is my home". Serbian makes her sound like she finds confodence in her powers and is putting her foot down now that she gets to use them and nobody can tell her what to do anymore, and Croatian makes her sound like she finds safety and relief in using her powers because she doesn't have to fear others anymore. Fun.

I completely read the entire Twilight Book series from Stephany Meier and Found it pretty entertaining read. of course, I read Biss im Morgengrauen, the superior, actually well written German version which largely salvaged the mess.

All I have to say about the Russian version is that it's once again more sad Yes I'm alone but I'm alone and free -> I'm alone in this world (I don't know what she's smiling about when she sings that)

That SAO image REALLY makes me wish you'd do another Abridged video.

yo, Hebrew speaker here, and 9:45 includes the Hebrew poster for Frozen. So... here's what it means. The Hebrew title is translated into To Break the Ice, which means in Hebrew the same thing it does in English. Now when I saw the title I groaned, because it's sort of a pun and I don't like it when Hebrew title translation rely on a pun. But that's exactly what they do in the movie - Elsa is very distanced from Anna,and she needs to Break the Ice first, sure, they're sisters, but they were separated for so long Anna "gets" to encounter her sister for the first time again. So... yeah

I got to Frhans and Frkristoff before I started laughing. That was great.

So the French version is just a better retelling/fan fiction? Incredible. I love it.

"bringing frelsa back to frarendelle and live frhappilly ever frafter" how to make things in french amazing

This video depressed me. I already don't have time to consume all the television, film, anime, and literature I want to. Now everything I have consumed has a slightly different version in a different language! I just want to cry now and watch the Russian version of My Hero Academia, I've already done English and Japanese.

I'd also like to point out that in the french version Anna says 'I want to build a snowman, one snowman please' instead of 'do YOU want to build a snowman', and I like that her character is more spoiled, just like in my headcanons

The way you've explained it, it seems that the reprise in La Reine des Neiges seems to capture the spirit of the original song there, "Life's Too Short" (which, if you haven't seen it, watch the scrapped storyboard for it, it's great), which was replaced by the For The First Time In Forever Reprise. I much preferred "Life's Too Short" when I discovered it because it hits the same deeper character building, with Anna having an egocentric "everything should be the way i want it" view of the world, and Elsa flat out refusing to go back because "I don't want to", not "I can't".

I really enjoy these "sub vs dub" comparisons of context.

Ever considered a video on translation artifacts? Not stuff like the Rosetta Stone, but things like the phrase "A certain ______" that come from languages with very different grammatical structures, and creep into poorly translated works.

Mom says it's my turn to celebrate this renual

"Join us next time when we explore the future of japanimation in the ViRtUaL wOrLd, no not that one" PLEASE tell me we're getting a Bofuri video

Small addition, I recently watched the let it go scene, and honestly the slovak/Czech version makes Elsa look more like a punk, been forced to fear her power and follow rules, but during the song she slowly turns rebellious, letting her inner self out, (the slovak Version is called "Von to dám!" Which basically translate to "let it out!" but sounded more like herself breaking away from the built up prison of her past, and started to embrace her frozen side and becoming more self confident and even slightly jerkish, with saying letting the storm rage, but she didn't care. Or how distance makes the world look small. I do need to still watch the movie again, but from what i remember Slanna (slovak Anna) felt like a classic princess, the meaning of her acting being spoiled and childish, with her living in her small world. Heck, the Slans (Hans) scene made it look like Hans was basically playing with a small child. And with Slelsa (Elsa) being the older sister: calm, collected and realistic, ensuanted by the scene with the proposal but inside she felt like she had to hide a side of herself for the sake of the kingdom and everyone (not who she loved *everyone*) the ball room scenr felt like elsas realistic side was clashing with Anna's idealized world. It really hit me like a bat to the face. I honestly feel like the slovak version did better than the English version, especially with how Anna had to grow up and kind of let go of the idealised world she lived in and with Elsa letting out her hidden side and show it the world. Heck the end line gets turned to "the cold didnt mind me" gets a new context with the context, with the start being like:"I don't mind it because I have to ignore it to hide" but at the end it becomes "I don't mind it because it's part of me" Sorry if I went on a tangent, just an interesting thing I noticed

For the entire time i have watched your videos, just now i see that it reminds me of the old Game Theory videos xD i miss it so this makes me happy

First, I love this 2 vids; my first language is Spanish and I always notice this little things when watching series or movies. I love to see it explained this well with a movie that I really didn't like that much in my mother language. Second, I love six of crows and really like you are enjoying the dreg series too. I really love your videos, keep going

The French translation of this movie genuinely sounds like the solution to every gripe I’ve had for the past (6? Is it 6 now?) years about it being cookie cutter and hyper inflated and saccharine to the point of not making any sense.

Um... hey just thought I'd throw this out here. The translation for torpeur is torpor.... a state of physical or mental inactivity; lethargy.

It's crazy how I'm watching one of your videos, then stop, then come back to realize how I love to hear you talk, then forget, then come back again to acknowledge a few jokes I didn't understand before, then leave, then...

I watched part one of this quite literally 14 hours ago and now part 2 has been out for 12 hours. Perfection

I think I feel sorry for the possible thousands, if not millions of Frozen-obsessed little girls who may never see this two-parter.

I like how you get so emotional, my headphones clip. It's nice to see emotion in these videos.

This has inspire me to listen to other version of Frozen songs. I started with probably roughly translated Italian version (Note, I don't speak Italian, this just what I think they where going for). In First Time forever, Anna is somewhere between American and French, but that not the interesting detail of this. It what what Elsa lyrics translate into. Hers are all about lies, and if you good enough with them no one will know (also hiding and taming secrets). Except for one line. It "You have to suffer a little bit more". This show that she already to some degree not happy with life. Next is Let it Go, which firstly doesn't really have a repeat lyric like the American version, so Im going with what the translation video says it called of "At dawn I will rise", though I also seen "For now on I let my heart guide me a bit" from other people. First verse is about how the storm covers all and cant be stop by her will from getting to her heart. , second about how she won't lie because it make her guilty and also she wont take another no. The next verse is hard to describe without seeing the whole thing, so here the translation: "From now on I'll let My heart guide me a bit I will forget what I know, And from today I will change! I'll stay here, I will never go away, I'm alone, From today the cold will be my home" So the first three are about changing who see is, and the second three is about being determine to change, even if it means her only company is the cold. The next one is about how change can seem like a huge jump, how she will face it head on, and how wiliness to is a virtue. Then it talks about finding her true identity in the next verse, and finding where she belongs, being forever free (remember this for the reprise). The next verse is honestly a bit simple but also confusing. talk about snow, her power spreading, and how the past is history. Im just going copy the last two verses because they very self explanatory. "I know it, yes I know it Like the sun i will set, Because then, because then At dawn I will rise! Here there is the storm that Won't stop! From today the destiny is only mine. " Finally, the reprise. Again, Anna is more aggressive then American, but not as aggressive as French one. It about how she trying to get Else to trust her and telling her now that she know she will be her friend that Elsa can lean on. So once again it Elsa that interesting. In the first part she says "There nothing here for the likes of you". I think that means that Elsa thinks this isnt where Anna belong. Then she recognize that Anna trying to help, but says without her Anna wouldn't need to worry. Then Anna tell her about the winter she cause, and things get very interesting. Anna trying to tell Elsa she doesnt have to run away, about not being alone, and trying to make it work. Elsa on the other hand... her dialoged is sad. "I will never have my freedom Im trapped and nothing will change What Shall I do from now on? Anna, you want to save me but you can't! It's my fault There no other way Begone" The begone I dont think is meant the same way as the French begone. It not out of anger, but fear. Afraid that her dream is just that, a dream. that she will never be free. of being trapped once again. And worse, blaming herself for the winter, while not knowing what to do to stop, it scare her the most. For while she might be fine with it, it is not what her sister needs.

I am french, this video is so funny ! I agree with your points That's what I love about translations and adaptations. Multiple languages can tell different stories

So I went to rewatch Frozen, A Freezing Adventure(the brazilian portuguese dub), and when analyzing some of the lyrics of the Br version of Let it Go. I found it interesting to notice that some parts that either were in past tense or present were changed to future and kinda sound a little like threats and makes sound a little like a villain - Similarly to the polish dub i've seen here in a comment bellow, instead of saying "it looks like i'm the queen" Brelsa says "the queen is here." - Let it Go is translated into I am Free - When Amerelsa sings "don't let them know, well now they know" Brelsa says "They won't know, but now they will" - Instead of saying "turn away and slam the door" Brelsa sings "I left to never return." - "The cold never bothered me anyway" is translated as "the cold won't really bother me" - " Let the storm rage on" becomes "The storm is coming" - towards the end of the song where Amerelsa says "I'm never going back, the past is in the past." Brelsa says "I won't regret what was left behind." - Lastly when Amerelsa says "that perfect girl is gone" Brelsa says "It's time to change."

That's one of the reasons I am so in love with learning languages. I'm only fluent in German and English, sadly.

these videos have references on so many layers (literally not metaphorically)

5:39 those princess-picard fusions make me uncomfy

This is the first time that a set of youtube videos have ever convinced me to go back and rewatch a movie in a language that I'm only a beginner in.

THIS sort of analysis is why i love languages, analysis in general, and i like a lot your channel. Thank you.

I feel like this can be applied to Anime and English dubs with how differences in how dialogue infer characterizations even when the script is accurate to the original. There's always gonna be some compromise, some kind of tweak that'll come off differently. However, I've often argue that it shouldn't be a bad thing. At least, it should depend on a more case by case basis like with here.

god i just LOVE the way you speak it's always so nice and your points are so nice and rhe edits are so nice and EVERYTHING is just SO. NICE.

holy shit. Explanation Point pronounced timbre right. It was so right that I genuinely had to stop for a second, because it seems almost no one uses the proper pronunciation, so much so that my brain told me it was wrong for a moment.

I know this is an old video, but I absolutely love stuff like this and was curious if you'd do something like it again.

Never thought I'd see you shilling for Six of Crows but I'm so pleased you're enjoying my favorite book! I'll admit that for the majority of anime aside from a few special childhood favorites, I prefer subs a whole lot more, both because I like to be as close to the original context it was made in as possible, and because I... just like reading! But your videos on why you generally prefer dubs and the sheer scope that goes into bringing these stories to wider audiences has made me a lot more aware and appreciative of the hard work that goes into localization and translating in general. It's as much an exercising in creative writing as it is effectively parsing one language in order to bring it into another. I understand a lot more how little, seemingly insignificant changes to the script, whether through dubbing or subtitles, can have a huge impact on how the overall work is perceived by different people, and I think it's wonderful how interpreting media can be such a singular and individual experience. No two viewings are ever exactly alike, and then it gets me emotional about the nature of art creation and humanity as a whole. I think any video that prompts so much extra thought beyond its subject matter is a worthy one, and any creative who's able to communicate their ideas with clarity and humor has earned themselves place among my personal favorites. Thank you for being you, man.

I absolutely love linguistic differences between cultures. So awesome!

Me seeing this in my feed: Wow can't wait to.... wait this is awesome! He must being doing better mentally cause how fast this one came out!" Good job on this and the rest. I have forced my friends to watch most your stuff because I personally find myself coming back to them over and over again.

I wanna see the French version even more now

I was not a huge fan of the first video, but this really brought everything together for me, good job!

Random fact here : Warner Bros's ultimate star studded film is a french exclusive named La Classe Américaine. Featuring most of the big movie stars of the XXth century, it is a bizarre nonsense anybody fluent in French should watch.

Already got audible. Still like your vids so far.

Alright, now i need to know about that Steins Gate detail

Never seen you before. This video = instant sub.

My Frozen (or. Well. Ledové království, or "The frozen kingdom") is. Well. Let it go is translated as "suddenly", as in "I suddenly want to be free and do the things I couldn't do before, and I needed the push to truly discover myself", but I don't remember much of the dub. It wasn't too accurate though, I remember that

great video

How did the French dub translate the "true love" thing? Because about half of the movie is predicated on the idea that Anna needs romantic love to thaw her out, and it turned out that it was familial love the entire time. And that's a misunderstanding/loophole that makes sense in English where "love" can mean multiple things. But I know that French and plenty of other languages aren't like that and make a very clear distinction between the feelings you have for your romantic partner and the feelings you have for your family members.

frana sounds like the french anthem, quite explosive lyricwise edit 1:took a look at french let it go, freedom is mentioned multiple times, fucking god frenchmen, you really love your freedom

Dutch-coded. Ketterdam is based on Amsterdam, and Jan's surname uses the Dutch "Van" rather than the German "Von". And now I'm very interested to know how/if Six of Crows was ever translated into Dutch and how that affected the story...

YESSS THE FROZEN VIDEO FUCK YEAH!! Was so excited for this, and I really loved your take. I'm def not as equipped to give a full analysis on these two films/halves of a franchise, especially seeing as I don't speak French, but this inspired me to go listen to some of the French dub of the Frozen 2 soundtrack, and I found the differences between the English & French versions of "Show Yourself" to also be pretty striking. Notably, FRElsa in that one is a much more confident character by that point than AmerElsa is. In English, "Show Yourself" is a command, but it's also more of an invitation; as much as AmerElsa isn't going home without answers, and is still actively chasing the mysterious voice, she is also urging it to meet her halfway. She's still a little anxious, and the lyrics of the song start at a point of uncertainty. "Every inch of me is trembling, but not from the cold." She also asks a lot of questions - "Are you the one I've been looking for all of my life?" "Could it be the reason I was born?" "Is this the day? Are you the way?" She is either still wondering if this is even right, or can't believe that it's happening. Even that beautiful, thematically appropriate line "I am found!" has her as a passive object; she was chasing the voice, but it was the voice that found -her-. "Je te cherche", or "I am looking for you" is the opposite, and the change in the repeating line/title should clue you into how. FRElsa is not inviting the voice to come forward, she is telling it that she will find it, no matter how far it goes. Rather than being a nervous excitement that builds to a point of certainty, this one is Whoops, All Certainty. This is the case from the very first line: "I can feel my hands trembling, but I'm not afraid". The "dream" that AmerElsa "can't quite hold" is for FRElsa "a song, a poem learnt by heart", which she already has a grip on. FRElsa asks no questions, just gives declarative statements: "I'm ready to take the leap", "But today I'm changing my life" "You're the answer I'm waiting for, hoping for" (as opposed to AmerElsa's "ARE you the answer?"). Hell, the line "I am full of certainty" is right in there. And "I am found" is replaced with "Nothing ever dies" - an equally profound, but less strictly personal and more sweeping revelation for FRElsa as a character. Anyway, I just really love "Show Yourself" in every language because it's a gorgeous gd song, and I love this video, and in fact all the Sub vs Dub videos you do. Plz keep making them you're really great

This reminds me of the contrast between the american and japanese versions of Sonic Colors. The american version was mandated by SEGA to be more "cartoon-like", with snarky humor and simplistic storytelling that are _fffine,_ but nothing like the previous more story and character focused games. The american version has basically everyone acting as an endless joke machine; the japanese version, on the other hand, while it can't change the general direction of the plot, focuses more on the bond between Sonic and Tails, and the ways they interact and connect with the wisps, the alien gimmick that Eggman is exploiting. The greatest difference I can spot is in the scene after you beat the penultimate boss, which difers depending on the region: in America, Sonic and Tails are snarking at each other about which one of them did more to save the aliens; in the Japan, Tails thanks Sonic for being at his side and values him as a friend, as a brother. Translation and culture can change a lot about how a story is presented

I see a keyblade. Made my day :D

I wish I was smart enough to be able to analyse media like this. But right now I'm fine just watching explanation point

I would love it if you did videos on other Disney movies too.

Nice! Finally the 2nd part ^^

YOU. ARE. SO. GOOD

Damn it, now I want to watch Frozen in Danish and see what those translators did.

Interestingly, the Hungarian version of Let it go is almost literally "Let there be snow"

Wait did you watch the French version or the French CANADIAN version? CAUSE THESE TWO ARE DIFFERENT BEASTS!! (there's a huge debate amongst frenchies as to which version is better, this video being an explanation as to why the American version is better: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2jo5u0TBpJM.html The Frozen part starts at 6:33 The video is an analysis of disney songs dubbed in french so there's also Bells of Notre Dame, A Whole New World, Colors of the Wind and A Man Out Of You. I hope you get the jokes cause they're pretty good! 🤣

This reminds me of the will it homestucks reading of frozen

Yeah, that’s a nice sentiment to end on

Okay, now I understand your thesis statement and agree.

I cant believe that someone elsd read those books. I have that and it's sequel and they are the best books I've ever read

Damn it explenation. You make have another shake in the way that I want to consume media againg.

In spanish is rather similar, the corus of "let it go" is chsnged to "libre soy" or "i'm free", again, Spelza, believing going aeay is freeing her, though, its been a while so thats something I remember vagely

I doubt you'll see this and I'm not sure if it's even an area you're into to. But have you ever thought about doing a comparison between the 2001 and 2019 Fruits Baskets? I love your analyses and would love to hear your take on how the two change implications for the characters and stories.

Holy shit, I love the video, but man, when he brought up Six of Crows, I squealed. Great job Explapoint!

Guess now i should say "c'est juste une histoire differente" rather than "bruh ils ont completement perdu le sens du truc de base;;;" and your two videos were really great to understand that concept of diferent stories for different languages while having in theory the same things i've already compared the american and french lyrics of songs from the second movie, but for now i'm still in my "il n'y a plus de sens" state of mind and i should try to see what story is really told throught the french lyrics because for the moment, talking about beautiful promises and wingless birds while the english talk about power and growth in "show yourself" (that became "Je te cherche") seems weird to me ^^'

Wooo! This was fun ^_^

4:27 Dad of the Century 🥺

That subtle Log Horizon S2....oof.....it still hurts, man....

You made me wonder if there's something different in Frozen's Latin American translation :)

You have a pretty good french pronounciation . Baguette seal of approval .

You should do a video on something like full metal alchemist or hellsing shows that have two official releases per language

Not hero we wanted, but the hero we deserved.

Absolutely fantastic and the book sounds very interesting

I want to listen to you talk about the French version of frozen 2 for 6 hours

Words matter which is why I'm so mad that the German translators changed "your welcome" to a way less formal wording because they were worried about stressed and unstressed silibles, "gern geschehen" (my pleasure) and "bitteschön"(you're welcome) both have unstressed silibles that would have been on the high note, "voll gerne" which is way less formal and wouldn't necessarily be a response to "thank you" which is why it just doesn't have the same effect, it changes the message from "Look at all the things I did FOR YOU, you're welcome" to "look what I did, and I had fun doing it" even an "Ach gerne" would have worked better in this context, because it's a lot more "humble" which makes the song a lot less humble, and it would have worked the same with the stressed and unstressed silibles.

I wonder if the story will continue like this in frozen 2's french version

I can't believe the characters have personalities in the French version

Well, now I’m curious about what the Italian translation has changed from the English one, but I don’t think it would be this deep.

That's honestly so cool! O should watch it in Korean to see how different it is

Early, but with no time to stay. Tragic. But I will return, I swear upon the ice.

Oof I almost read that book I had it from the library but couldn’t get past the first chapter

You know i actually have that book on my irl bookshelf

Hm. I think, we have very different philosophies or, at least perceptions, when it comes to words. For me words are secondary to meanings. They are tools of communication, but not the only tools. Context being one of the most important.

Olaf-bert Camus. je n'étais pas prête à ça. (moi aussi, j'ai etudié le français à l'université)

tu doit absolument voir la version canadienne francaise de Le bossu de notre dame! the translation is really intreresting

Are you gonna compare the differences in the French and English versions of lost in the woods?