The rescue kayaker caught on the life jacket. 

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Swear, the same thing just happened to us today!! Mostly calm waters, and a seemingly mellow rapid .... but the current pushed us right into a low lying tree, and when we tried to push away from it, the water fought back that much harder and it filled our kayak, which ultimately flipped us over. Very scary!! My other half wasn't wearing his life jacket because the waters seemed that calm and it seemed like no big deal until it happened. Then everything turned catastrophic. Then 2 others tried to help us and their kayaks flipped as a result. He nearly drowned. But by the grace God of my son, who also fell off his boat trying to help us, was hanging onto a log and was able to grab my husband's life jacket and give it to him. Terrifying experience!

@@powerofknowledge7771 hopefully that was a lesson to always wear your PFD

Sure thing, Aaron. Every damn thing they did just made it worse, huh? Like pulling him to the surface and keeping his head above water. It wasn't miraculous that he was still alive, it was directly because they risked their own lives and kept his head above water. What blows my mind is all the crass negativity directed at the friends who saved his life. Oh, I'm sure if you were on scene, the whole thing would have gone differently and he would have been out of the water in 1 minute as opposed to 6. Keep telling yourself that. Just don't try convincing me that it's true because I've been paddling for 50+ years and I know better.

@@woofna1948 First and foremost, what matters is they saved his life. The end result is the most important thing. But to Aaron's point, albeit he was a bit on the critical side, as someone who has zero experience kayaking period, I think he does bring up some good points. My point is to analyze and learn from it because I believe some things done here were wrong from purely a physics standpoint. Again, I am speaking as a person who has zero experience but putting the kayak downstream of him does not help much. Yes, it did give him something to grab on to help him stay afloat but it is exhausting as the very same kayak that is holding him up is also pushing him down. In my opinion, they had enough resources and manpower there to get something behind him. Yoy can see long boards that could have been used. I too agree the cameraman should have put the camera away and lent a hand. At minimum get out of the way andxtry to think because the ones trying to rescue him can't. Give ideas, suggestions. You just have to keep trying. To me, assuming this was all they had to work with, they should have grabbed that long board and shoved it behind him to support his upper body. There were things this board could have wedged between to keep it in place and keep his upper above the water with much less effort. With his back supported, he can afford to straighten out his legs and basically float to buy time. In such a situation, any lifting mechanism should be directed upstream of him, not downstream. Anything upstream of him that runs into him will act to lift him up as his body will try to push it down. They had boards, kayaks, and life jackets. There should have been some attemp to put things behind him. Let the water lift him up to buy time. Just my thoughts on the situation. Again I could be completely wrong but from a physics point of view, it makes sense as it has the potential of keeping his upper body above water with much less effort. Just a thought.

@@vangmountain Armchair quarterbacks with nasty opinions are a dime a dozen on social media, and I objected to the way some commenters criticized the rescue. I've been paddling for over 50 years and I analyze close calls and fatalities professionally. Accidents can happen in the blink of an eye, and this scene was both complex and dangerous to anyone who responded. It's easy to say, after the fact, that you would have done a better job, utilized different resources, whatever. But the bottom line here is that his fellow paddlers recognized the critical nature of the incident and reacted both quickly and in a way that saved his life. That's a win. If anyone is going to second guess the response, they damn well better take that into consideration if they want to avoid looking like a blowhard and a fool.

@@woofna1948 I absolutely concur with you. My question to you being a professional and me knowing nothing and having absolutely zero experience is, what do you see being the best thing they could have done for this guy to stabilize him. As someone who knows nothing and can only look at it from a physics perspective, watching this rescue was heartstopping so I can only imagine how hard it was for the guys doing the rescuing. As an observer, I observed at 0:55 a very safe position when he reached up for the rescuer with both hands and was able to lift his head well above the water. This tells me his trapped jacket allows him enough movement to get his upper to a safer position. Where I see him really struggling is at 1:00 on when the kayak arrives and he reaches for it. From a physics point of view, to me, this was a big mistake as there is an imbalance of forces from bottom to top causing his bottom to rotate under the weight of the kayak and thus, forcing him under. My question to you is, seeing that he has room to move, would it not have been better to grab some of those free boards, strap the back end down and create a cantilever over him so a rop could be attached to him and use the board as a crane to hoist his body up enough so as to keep his head above water to buy time. Being held up by a rope and a beam means he can conserve energy and buy the rescuers time to free him. Do you as a professional see mistakes made here? For me, the thing that really bugged me was the guy recording. What was the point of him needing to be right on top of things doing absolutely nothing other than potentially documenting a comrades death by drowning. Drop the damn camera and do something that can aid in the rescue! This bugged me greatly! Please share your thoughts given your expertise. Given what you can see of the situation, what would you have done in this situation?

@@vangmountain I don't claim to be a Swiftwater rescue expert. Few paddlers are. What I do have is decades of experience analyzing close calls and fatalities involving outdoor sports. What I know about river rescues is that they are complex and dynamic situations that often present suddenly and also don't readily lend themselves to easy textbook solutions. This was not a textbook-perfect rescue, but it was a successful one. Any pilot will tell you the same about a bad landing that everyone survived. It was good enough. Because it doesn't have to be perfect to save a life. My objection to all the armchair quarterbacking and unkind comments is that they serve no purpose other than to demean the rescuers, who deserve our thanks and applause for saving their fellow paddler's life. That is, after all, the bottom line goal in any rescue. So unless you're a professional, dissecting the rescue for educational purposes and doing a thorough step-by-step analysis of the incident, people should keep their mouths shut - especially in these social media situations where it's easy to anonymously toss around hurtful comments that do no good whatsoever, and only make others feel bad. We don't have to sit on our hands and tolerate that kind of behavior in paddlesports. It's mean-spirited and nasty, and I believe we should object when we encounter it. I wrote an article on a similar subject for Ocean Paddler's November 2018 edition entitled Blaming The Victims. You can read it here: paddlerezine.com/blaming-the-victims/

К чему тут нож? Я и по Мане и прочим метался.. Тут тупо страховщики не умеют работать..

Не могут поднять человека.. именно тут пипец..

@@Seryojik032 А к тому, что он зацепился под водой своим снаряжением и нужно было резать, чтобы освободить от зацепа, а потом вытащить человека. Внимательнее ролик нужно смотреть, чтобы понять, что происходит...

главное этот ножик спас человека. А вообще стропорез нужная вещь. счас даже на тренировках он с собой.

@@permkayakteam : could you please translate Russian comments to English? Thanks.

true!!! David Bruce

I suppose that's easy for you to say that when not "in the Moment" and [probably] not understanding language of the communication that's taking place! (It would be good to see a translation so we can make an informed comment.) Who knows what was going on!? Obvs something was caught under the water, the force was taking him under - so surely the fact that he WAS rescued is the most important thing here! (IMHO) :)

You are wrong - They saved this man life. They stabilised the situation by ensuring he could breath. They assessed the situation. Avoided putting more people at risk. Ultimately, they got him out.

Looked more like eventually someone who knew what to do showed up, told the guys who had been essentially doing nothing (camera guy) to get the hell out of the way and then he got rescued. This whole thing took entirely to much time for anyone to actually do anything.

Thank you for evaluating our rescue operation. We do not say that it was perfect. We show that even on smooth water, when the team is not ready for rescue, you may encounter an accident. Do not repeat our mistakes. Even on a simple river, take everything you need for salvation. We didn’t have a stroporez, a knife. As long as we figured out what the guy got hooked while they found the knife, it took time. Errors are taken into account. At the moment, we consistently practice and attend safety courses on rough water

You're joking?

@@H2Octayo nope

@@mastaangler7055 Have you ever needed to use it? I thought in having a tube to the inside of the boat... after all there's a lot of air there. But never thought of a snorkel... and first time I hear of someone carrying one. Probably not the first safety equipment I would think of but might be a good idea... Cheers!!

@@H2Octayo Yes, They are on most Coast Guard issued PFD’s for rescue, helps display waves on rough weather.

@@mastaangler7055 I can see how it would have help in this case...

Never thought of carrying a snorkel, do you actually do that as a kayaker?

MrKwaidy thank you. I also was wondering why he wasn't,just pulled out.

It is in the title...

The helmet was given to another participant. Most people just skated on flat water and came to look at 2-3 daredevils. The protagonist did not receive instruction, jumped without demand and command. Therefore, no one expected such events.

They are Russians, that’s how they roll!

@@barrymarshall3592 - Yeah, they did exactly what any good paddlers would do - they risked their lives to save their friend. And they succeeded.

@@woofna1948 Yes they saved their friend, however for the man assisting from his boat - It's not worth risking your own life when it takes mere seconds to put a helmet on.

I'm with Kayak Boy on this. He's alive. It was a tight space to work in and the kayak that helped to support him was in a tough spot as well. Although it seemed like an eternity watching him get overwashed while trying to get a breath, his companions pulled him to the surface and kept his head above water as much as they could. These scenarios are often chaotic, the rescuers were themselves at serious risk of falling in, getting sucked under that structure, pinned and drowned. They got him out of the water in roughly 6 minutes. Could they have rigged an upstream rope and kept his head above the water at the same time? Who the hell knows? Their friend almost died and they saved his life. That's the ONLY thing that matters here. All this shoulda-coulda armchair talk about cutting him free, and the nasty comments about how shoddy the rescue was are mean-spirited and help nothing. It makes me wonder what kind of kayakers are making those comments. I sure as hell wouldn't want to paddle with any of them.

@@woofna1948 Even simple rigging eats up precious time. It was a very risky location to play in with the structure around, but they did the best they could under the circumstances from what I could see in the film. All went home alive at end of day. (This from a certified Swiftwater Rescue Technician. (No, not just an armchair expert).

Dude is literally stuck in a water pump.

Rapid One yeah, that does not look like a good place to go kayaking at all....

впадение мулянки в каму. у депо красный октябрь. м/р заостровка

Learn russian (?) and you may find out! ;) The force of that water versus the issue at hand (probably part of his body or equipment was caught on something under the water)

They didn't waterboard their friend, they saved his life. You wanna know what they're saying? Learn Russian. Otherwise STFU.

Матрасный сплав, и каякинг немного разные вещи. Каждый сам должен проверять свою снарягу, обладая каким то опытом. От себя, как участника событий, могу добавить только, что это практически центр города, и не ожидания что этот человек прыгнет. Отсюда вытекающая халатность, один стропорез на компанию и очевидная расслабленность страховки. Выводы сделаны. Человек продолжает плавать в лодке по серьезным речкам и наслаждаться каякингом.

Хорошо, что исход ситуации благополучный! Удачи Вам!

@@permkayakteam жесть вообще,ничему жизнь не научила!!!

Стропы спасика не затянул, вот и зацепился

об что они зацепились?

Those were my thoughts as well

Then the kayak would have been swept downstream it wouldnt have worked

@@tomallen6117 Sure, upstream - exactly where the guy was when he got capsized and got caught on something. Sure is easy for mean-spirited idiots to armchair quarterback on the internet. And for the record, Mr. Know-It-All, he's not a schmuck, he's a fellow paddler.

Vaughn Taylor with his left hand?

He's wearing a pullover PFD held tight by 6 straps and a rescue harness (I own the same PFD). There's no way this thing is coming off safely in this situation, except if it's cut off of him, which is what they apparently did. (Thought you'd like to know, even 2 years late :)

@@Markazor I have a thing about gear, I buy, use and design what is best for me. Just because they say it's the best doesn't mean that it is true in every situation. Personally, I have two chest straps, one back strap and a waist strap with NO back flotation other than the neck flap... to keep your head and neck protected from rocks. They are all certified but all have quick release buckles... two way quick release buckles, now that I am looking at them. I hope that I never have to use them, the releases, but better to have them and not need them.... Like this man, I put myself in rough water but I rarely have anyone with me. That means that it's self rescue or nothing and my equipment is designed and bought with this in the foremost of my mind. Yes, what I do is dangerous, even foolish to some but it is worth it to me. I don't guide, I don't lead nor do I promote what I do as a good idea simply because someone will try it and the one that fails would be my responsibility. I've been at it for 25 years and there have been accidents and extreme encounters but because of equipment choices I've always been able to get to the take-out, if not a little bit late. I appreciate your reply and thank you for your time, rest assured that I won't be wearing one of those, the 99.999% safety ratings just caught a snag. We all know that white and cold water are dangerous, anybody that thinks differently is a body slated for recovery. Stay safe.

@@vaughntaylor7638 That PFD (Astral Designs Green Jacket) ain't that bad, but I understand where you're coming from. I used to have a few loose loops hanging out of my PFD, like a cow's tail and a camel back hydration bag, but now I go by the clean line principle (www.raftingmag.com/rafting-magazine/keep-it-clean, coincidentally, this very same clip is referenced in this article). I'm curious about your PFD. Is it a customization of an off-the-shelf model?

@@Markazor while I have customized several off the shelf PFDs, I also design and test my own for future patent purposes. I have this thing about "clean lines" as you put it.... if it can snag, it will. I have a long line of products that I have tested and had certified. This is a retirement program that I will be launching in 2024. I will never belittle a certified product but that said I will remark on possible or alternate options, quick release buckles being one of them. They are available to modify existing products, I use a dual release for my rough water gear. Not only can you release the camlock but you can release the buckle, both with one hand... one hand for you and one for the gear. As to where I'm coming from... His gear may have been some of the best but that was a lesson in choice and circumstance. I'm thankful that he had help and that he is alive, had that been me my vest knife would have already been used. As I said I'm mostly alone out there, if it is not self rescue it's recovery.

@@johnnycharles702 ofc you can carry knives here wtf

Oh, wow, Richard, so you've been to Perm and know that stream! Thanks for chiming in! I mean, if it wasn't for your sage and informed observation, I would have thought it was just a little muddy rainwater, running high.

Sure, Barry. Now if only you had been on scene with your vastly superior knowledge and rescue skills, surely he would have been out the the water in 1 minute tops. Why you feel compelled to make ugly comments is completely incomprehensible to me. What's your point? If you had something substantive to contribute - something educational and pertinent, why not say so? Give us the benefit of your wisdom. But no, all you bring to the table is nastiness. You should be ashamed of yourself.

@@woofna1948 your commenting on my response from 2 years ago. You must be lonely. I’m sorry you are so lonely. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you my friend. God bless you and all your loved ones.

dats right

that is the worst spelling I have ever seen

He's alive isn't he, your spelling is the worst!

U hev not sean munny rscues hev you, my freind?