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THE RINGS OF POWER Season 2, Episode 6 Review: The Sea Is Always Right 

Erik Kain
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This episode gave us a few glimpses of what an actually competent, well-written series could have been like if they'd only stuck closer to the books. It also had a bunch of mind-numbing idiocy. As always, the music is something I made with AI.
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@stephengibbons4771
@stephengibbons4771 3 дня назад
They just cannot resist the crutch of cheaply repurposing dialog and visual beats from the LotR films. It's the height of laziness and this episode had several egregious examples. And you're right, Bombadil as Gandalf's Yoda figure is beyond dumb.
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 3 дня назад
Never should have trusted the show runners when they said they wanted it to feel new yet the same. It was code for "we'll just copy everything from Jackson's adaptation."
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 3 дня назад
The lifted dialog and flipping its meaning to "Hey, maybe you should stop helping people and just let them die." actively made me frustrated/annoyed/angry.
@dbapto6994
@dbapto6994 2 дня назад
Oh give it a rest. I don't see you making TV shows
@stephengibbons4771
@stephengibbons4771 2 дня назад
@@dbapto6994 only someone who makes TV shows is allowed to be critical of TV shows? What kind of logic is that? So I guess only professional musicians can have opinions about music? Only pro athletes should have anything to say about sports?
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 2 дня назад
@@dbapto6994 dislike the video and move along bud. Stop being a weirdo, we're here to talk about why we don't like the show and how we think it can be better. If you don't want to see it quit being a toxic fan.
@frankvandorp2059
@frankvandorp2059 3 дня назад
It's not that they just should have stuck closer to the lore, they simply should have hired MUCH better writers. It could never have been a good show with writers so incompetent they require an elf city not noticing an orc army camping on their doorstep, or who write a 'manipulative' character like Sauron not by devising smart plans for him to follow, but by having other characters say "this is all Sauron's plan!" in response to every random event happening in the plot.
@TaoScribble
@TaoScribble День назад
I don't think the showrunners ever respected or understood Sauron in the first place. I remember them commenting something about how it was "dumb" how Sauron manipulated people in the canon. I think they had simplified it to him just showing up with the rings and people trusting him. ...Which is odd, because that's kinda what they did with the show. Maybe that's what they see as "more canonical" this season?
@frankvandorp2059
@frankvandorp2059 День назад
@@TaoScribble I think when they said they would be "more canonical", they meant they took even more lines from the original trilogy to repurpose into their fanfic, than in season 1. These writers really are simple enough that they are capable of thinking that's what 'canonical' means. "We're more canonical this season because Galadriel says 'go back to the shadow!', and that's a line in Tolkien's original trilogy!"
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 3 дня назад
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…) Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. & they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 ​​⁠ fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages… ​​⁠They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep. Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.
@aobane841
@aobane841 2 дня назад
This isn't Tolkien's universe, mate. It's Amazon's adaptation based on Tolkien. There will probably be countless more in decades to come that will change the story around once again. Unlike the Star Wars universe in which the movies are canon and everything else is expanded universe.
@raymondsmith6870
@raymondsmith6870 2 дня назад
@@aobane841 Unlikely as that will make the LOTR universe just as dead as the Star Trek and Star Wars IPs are now. Though I am sure given the psychopathic behavior of corporations that they will squeeze every drop of blood out of it for profit before throwing the desiccated husk away into the trash.
@personapersonal7957
@personapersonal7957 День назад
Guyladriel? What's masculine about her?
@raymondsmith6870
@raymondsmith6870 День назад
@@personapersonal7957 Does the man spread cover shot in Empire magazine count.
@HarryNansen
@HarryNansen День назад
Take a break, Comic Book Guy! Jeez 😅
@KleinKore
@KleinKore 3 дня назад
This somehow defines this whole Show: what could have been
@namenloss730
@namenloss730 3 дня назад
Rings of power pisses me off the same way acolyte pissed me off: They had the budget, they had some interesting ideas, and they utterly botched the execution turning the whole thing into a brain dead mess
@jypsumfantastic
@jypsumfantastic 3 дня назад
The missed opportunity is the worst thing about it.
@zoebaggins90
@zoebaggins90 День назад
They didn't botch the execution, the whole point is to ruin Tolkien and SW.
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 День назад
This is NOWHERE near the disaster the acolyte was
@MrDe4dGuy34
@MrDe4dGuy34 3 дня назад
With how egregious the callbacks and nostalgia bait from the books and the films in this show has been, I was really surprised Durin IV didn’t tell his father, Durin III, not to “delve too greedily and too deep, lest we awaken something in the darkness.” I’m like 90% certain that line will rear its ugly head here soon, I just wonder how cringe-inducing it will be.
@amkessel2014
@amkessel2014 3 дня назад
Lol, I'm gonna keep a lookout for that now. 😆
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 3 дня назад
It’d have been way cooler if they didn’t ghost Peter Jackson & chase out Tom Shippey as the whole weta team could have designed Dol-Amroth together with us as well as other places.
@denglongfist4270
@denglongfist4270 2 дня назад
The callbacks had been there from Galadriel’s introduction in S1 E1. When Galadriel is talking about how her brother went searching from Sauron (insert Gandalf voice) “but the enemy found him first” was too much for me
@johanngerell
@johanngerell День назад
"As always, the music is something I made with AI" - damn! I asked Shazam about that intro part and it couldn't find anything :D LOVED IT!
@brucemooney1277
@brucemooney1277 2 дня назад
Galadriel telling Adar about HER ring that’s on the way was blasphemy. The Three ARE SECRET!!!
@Atsoky
@Atsoky 3 дня назад
If my grandma had wheels and a handlebar, she would have been a bicycle.
@polyestermammoth740
@polyestermammoth740 11 часов назад
...but everybody had a ride anyway.
@zaxx
@zaxx 3 дня назад
It's the Grand-Elf show now
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 3 дня назад
Dol Amroth was also originally the home of Galadriel & Celeborn, Built with the the Assistance of the Others who lived there with them after the Destruction of Eregion in the "War of the Elves and Sauron" in the Late Second Age. Galadriel had previously lived in (& founded) Eregion herself with her daughter and Celebrimbor, and Elrond's future Wife= Celebrian. Galadriel's Talent as an Artisan was said to be Second only to the Direct Line of Fëanor, who was her Uncle. It is also Ironic that the Silmarils were based on Galadriel's Hair, which was Golden with a Golden and Silver Glow to it, the glow of the Two Trees of Valinor when they were in the Transitional Phase of their Twelve-hour "Cycle" of Day and Night. Remember that Galadriel wrought Aragorn a Sheath for Anduri (Narsil Reforged) that ensured it was Permanently Unbreakable, even in Defeat. This probably Infuriated Saurin when Aragorn showed him the Reforged Aduril, and he Almost Certainly told the Dark Lord of the Sheath and its Effects. On another note, Galadriel was Rated to All Three of the Elves mentioned in this Short: Idril Celebrindal was the daughter of her First Cousin, King Turgon of Gondolin, whose Father was Fingolfin, brother of her own Father, Firarfin, (Fingolfin came closer to defeating Morgoth than Anyone else, besieging Sngband for 395 Years, and Maimed Moroth as he was felled by him). Luthien Tinuviel was the Daughter of Thingol, King of Doriath, whose kinsman was Celeborn, Galadriel's Husband. Arwen was of course Galadriel's Granddaughter.
@AnthonyBerkshire
@AnthonyBerkshire 3 дня назад
In RoP middle Earth are only 1000 people in total. It’s so empty like their dialogues
@jurgenkalowski1442
@jurgenkalowski1442 3 дня назад
💯% It's super awkward how little people there are. It makes it feel like the shit that's happening is not really important, because it's only going to be 10 dead people in the end...
@AnthonyBerkshire
@AnthonyBerkshire 2 дня назад
@@jurgenkalowski1442 COMMANDER OF THE NORTHERN ARMIES = three dudes and a she elf
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 День назад
They have thousands of extras for orcs, elves. Etc. Where in the show does it feel empty? (Season 1 I could argue but definitely not season 2)
@AnthonyBerkshire
@AnthonyBerkshire 17 часов назад
@@mattcollins3591 In Eregion are like twenty elves…
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 16 часов назад
@@AnthonyBerkshire are we expected to see thousands of elves at once at screen at all times? In the first season only the main characters were on screen in the eregeion scenes, now there’s many extras etc. Should the Jackson films be criticized too for only having 20 people fighting at a time in front of a green screen at helms deep and minis tirith?
@scdavis5074
@scdavis5074 3 дня назад
Celebimbo is too much of a frumpy beta male for me to ever believe he could be the greatest craftsman at the time. It takes me out of it too much to enjoy his storyline
@polyestermammoth740
@polyestermammoth740 11 часов назад
Anybody who refers to somebody as a 'beta male' is, themselves, so beta that it's untrue.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 3 дня назад
GirlNextGondor did an awesome video to do with Annatar & Sauron recently and many of the images should’ve been brought to life in this show! React to her recent Sauron videos. ❤️ it fits well with what you’re been saying in this video.
@bosco4533
@bosco4533 3 дня назад
The amount of shill articles over the last week for rings of power makes me hate it even more. The Amazon marketing department has been on a mission to turn this around.
@amkessel2014
@amkessel2014 3 дня назад
Ok, the initial scene with Arondir confused me too. But I think it's just a setup for him showing up at Eregion in an episode or two for him to do his stupid, BS, Legolas-wanna-be acrobatics.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
That scene was so pointless, particularly as they carefully established that these were Orc deserters who didn't want to fight no more and were just going home to their wives and kids! And he brutally slaughters them all so he can find a grubby map and then - nothing more, for this episode at least. They really are doing their best to make me cheer for Adar and the Orcs 😁
@verisimlitudesque
@verisimlitudesque 3 дня назад
I will never be able to not imagine Hispanic Yoda now while watching star wars, thanks Erik.
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 3 дня назад
@@verisimlitudesque de nada
@MatthewEverettGates
@MatthewEverettGates День назад
Iove it! There're some really good Mexican filmmakers- I'm from West coast US and it's closest of Hispanic America influence- and it would be awesome to see a fan remake of the whole SW OT from there🎉 especially bcs different monster cultures have impact on SF aliens
@KeytarArgonian
@KeytarArgonian 3 дня назад
I still think they could have made this show with time jumps, with each season leaping forward hundreds of years and told the proper story. That’s the beauty of having immortal characters. They stay. The mortals die as seasons change and you cycle out the mortal actors. You could have seen Numenor before the fall, get progressively worse. This could have been done largely in the wardrobe department. Each season with new fashions, could have been shown on the architecture. The creation of the rings would be meaningful and the story told correctly.
@amkessel2014
@amkessel2014 3 дня назад
Ah, yes, I've been saying this exact same thing too! It would have been a great way to contrast the mortal vs immortal viewpoints, and would be a great way to really explore that which caused the downfall of Numenor. Such a lost opportunity...
@Jamie_E_Pritchard
@Jamie_E_Pritchard 2 дня назад
That would have taken more skill than Payne and McKay possess...
@butchgreene
@butchgreene День назад
How hard would it have been to have Adar simply be the great captain of Sauron’s growing army (but having an empathy for orcs having gone through similar tortures by Morgoth yet shown kindness by Sauron) who betrays Sauron & smuggles the elven rings away when shown forgiveness at the hands of Galadriel for a fellow elf. But tragedy befalls him upon Arondirs vengeful sword?
@SingWhileYouMay
@SingWhileYouMay 3 дня назад
The first time Sauron did anything resembling what one would expect from a villain with an unmatched ability to make his lessers do his bidding without physical force. And some other stuff that also happened.
@janatman
@janatman 2 дня назад
I'm not familiar with the original lore, so I love learning about it from reviews like these. But even for someone like me, this series suffers from poor writing, poor pacing (it seems to move too slowly and too quickly at the same time), and callbacks galore. Much like season 1, season 2 will be relegated to a single viewing and never again.
@paulmartyn3388
@paulmartyn3388 3 дня назад
Ar-Pharazon didn’t have far to fall from grace in the book. He was the leader of the Kings Men during his Uncles reign. He usurped the throne by forcing his first cousin to marry him. He was never a good guy.
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 3 дня назад
But he was a powerful leader. Here he's a bumbling idiot.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 3 дня назад
@@ErikKain Agreed, he was a charismatic leader of men, a great captain. Not some slimy politician. He also obviously had personal qualities that you could like and admire, he was friends with Amandil, Elendil's father, despite the diametric political differences.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
Yes, but he also had some practical virtues. He was related to the royal family, he was a great military and civil leader in his own right, and most importantly, by then the rift between the Faithful and the King's Men had been going on for a thousand years at this point. Even the King's Men were not completely corrupted up until the influence of Sauron who deceived them into worshipping Morgoth and engaging in human sacrifice and outright rebellion against the Valar and Eru. And there is conflicting evidence about Tar-Miriel's attitude to him: one version has her being attracted to him and willing to marry him and hand over the rule. Even if forced into marriage, she may have considered this a political alliance (the lesser of two evils) to avoid outright civil war in Numenor. In this version, there is no relationship between them other than he's her chief minister? And he's pretty much plotting and scheming from the word go. We don't see *why* the people of Numenor trust him or find him a good leader. The Numenoreans are all just "rabble rabble rabble" and change with every wind that blows. There's nothing really set up about why the former king was at odds with the council and his people. The show makes it look like the split between King's Men and Faithful happened when Pharazon took over.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 2 дня назад
@@maryokeeffe3528 The show cannot make up its mind about it since clearly elven influence was already suspect and the Faithful clung to the old ways. Which makes it so baffling that at the same time the people trust old omens like the eagle and the sea-worm which carry with them the Valar's blessing (in the show). So which is it...?
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 2 дня назад
Ar Pharazon stole the throne by marrying his cousin, yes, but the point is that he was still a great man and a good King until his proper fall. (In other versions of the story, Miriel actually married him because she wanted to, not because she was forced to. It might be that was a variant of the story that didn't make it into the Appendices or The Silmarillion and may have been in Unfinished Tales or some such.)
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 3 дня назад
I posted this to the Angry Joe Show: A couple of things about the Sauron Vision scene that bugged me... 1.) It was night when the orcs attacked, but the vision was full daytime with sunshine. Sure, it made for a nice visual contrast, but it also implies that Celebrimbor was so wrapped up in his work and his forge not having any openings to the outside world at all that he would miss that. Mind control handwavey, still, bothered me. 2.) Celebrimbor is standing there, out in the open, talking to Annatar, without a care in the world. Not one of the elves running around thought to maybe seek some help or solace from the two leaders of the city?
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
It could all be taking place in the forge still, Celebrimbor might only be *imagining* he opened the door and went outside. I don't think it would be any more difficult for Annatar to put the whammy on him *before* he got to the door,. and make him think he went outside and all was rosy in the garden. Good point, though.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 2 дня назад
@@maryokeeffe3528 That would work except we see the scene transitioning seamlessly back to the panicking elves running around with Sauron in the middle of it all.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
@@anarionelendili8961 Okay, I was giving them too much credit. "What looks cool" over "what makes sense"
@Lothiril
@Lothiril 3 дня назад
They have too many storylines, they cannot progress a single one of them properly and with the attention it would need. Take Pharazôn for example. They just tell you that he is envious about the eternal life and bliss of the Elves in the West. But do they show it? Do they show humans die of old age and sickness while the Elves don't visibly age and never suffer any sickness? Do they show Pharazôn's fear of his own death? No, they just start a coup on Númenor without ever clarifying the two factions on the island and why the believe what they believe. So. much. wasted. potential... And what was the point in having the eagle lead to Pharazôn being named king when now a sea monster causes the people to call Miriel queen again? Why is kingship on Númenor dependant on random animals showing up? Nothing about this gets established anywhere, it's just ridiculous. There's more to criticise, but I'll focus only on one other thing: what they did to Celebrimbor is just really really bad. That character stopped making any sense in that episode, and it's a shame that they reduced him to being a fool who's now just tricked by magic. If Sauron can change the reality for people 8as Gil-galad said), there shouldn't be any limit to this ability, but if also makes the characters hollow and pointless because they lose their agency.
@amkessel2014
@amkessel2014 3 дня назад
Can you imagine the lost opportunity of having a 5 season series that follows the actual timeline? Each season would be hundreds of years apart, so you could have new human characters every season while the elven characters return season after season. What a great way to contrast the mortal vs immortal viewpoints.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 3 дня назад
@@amkessel2014 Indeed, it would be a very powerful way to show that and make the viewers appreciate it, too.
@EJ_Crough
@EJ_Crough 2 дня назад
Tommy B spitting hot Gandalf lines hurt my soul. The context is so wildly different. I suspect Gandalf’s lesson will really be to help a friend in need but holy moly if it really is to put his ‘destiny’ ahead of them than that will be so wildly untolkien
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
I would say they can't do that, but we've seen that they've done exactly that all along. Either it'll be "the *real* test was to see if you'd save your friend", or Nori and the Stoors turn up magically at the right time in the right place unharmed so he can find his wand and he doesn't have to make that choice. Maybe Nori convinces the Stoors to pack up and run away after all, and they end up in Bombadil's Bargain Forest O'Gands juuuuust as Not-Gandalf is "to heck with this, I'm saving my friend!" and is going to leave to look for her, and then through the power of Friendship one of the trees magically lights up with a fireworks display of "Yoo-hoo, over here!" and *that's* how he finds his staff.
@EJ_Crough
@EJ_Crough 2 дня назад
@@maryokeeffe3528 oh the big tree they made a point to talk about in the Stoor village will be where he gets his staff
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
@@EJ_Crough Oh, that's a good idea! Yeah, if they mentioned the big tree was so special, they might be going to do something with it!
@orlandit
@orlandit 3 дня назад
I guarantee you that Bronwyn’s stupid son gets one of the rings meant for mortal men! Just to keep him relevant. So relevant that I have forgotten his name apparently 😂😂😂
@namenloss730
@namenloss730 3 дня назад
I also found myself pleasantly surprised by the interaction between sauron and celebrimbor at the end. I actually felt immersed a bit and enjoying it. After 45 minutes of pure slog
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 3 дня назад
@@namenloss730 exactly. The Eregion plotline is the only good thing going, and that's not surprising since it's at least a version of what actually happened!
@namenloss730
@namenloss730 3 дня назад
@@ErikKain i really don't know the lore that well. I just realized that during the end of episode 6 I was actually interested in what was happening. Which was new after watching 5.8 episodes to laugh at the bad show
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
@@namenloss730 They're finally getting to what they should have been giving us all through the first season, with Annatar gradually gaining ascendancy over Celebrimbor and showing his powers of manipulation. Other characters have been *talking* all this season about how Sauron gets into your mind, it was good to finally *see* it happening. The Angry Joe Show is very shouty, but they had a good point: this is what Annatar should have been doing to *all* the Elves in Eregion, so this explains how the guards on the wall didn't see the Orc fires off in the distance, etc. "What, smoke from the fires of the army camped on your doorstep? No, no, look again, everything is just fine!" so they're completely taken off guard at the last minute.
@namenloss730
@namenloss730 2 дня назад
@@maryokeeffe3528 sadly there's nothing gradual to see there. Nice dwarf puts on the ring -> evil dwarf.
@todd.goslin6190
@todd.goslin6190 3 дня назад
Loved Mexican Yoda!! More please!!
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 3 дня назад
@@todd.goslin6190 I think he'll be a recurring character lol
@thegoblonoid
@thegoblonoid 3 дня назад
Would be interesting to see once this show is over (or preferrably cancelled) what was actually going on behind the scenes. As some people have pointed out I think it has to do with Christopher Tolkien's passing. There needs to be an investigation on this and it would make for a great youtube documentary lol.
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 2 дня назад
@@thegoblonoid agreed
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
@@ErikKain I know the third season has been greenlit, but I can't see this running for five seasons. I bet they get the third season to wrap everything up, hence the rushed episodes. But what do I know? Maybe seasons four and five will be all about how Poppy and Merimac find the Shire, which is inhabited by the missing third Hobbit race of Fallowhides who all come from Mexico and Nova Scotia by way of Japan, and settle down to have lots of little Stoofoots/Haroors/no, Hobbits, yes, now we're Hobbits! I'm sure two full seasons of that would not be too much 😜
@goodputin4324
@goodputin4324 2 дня назад
​@@ErikKainI am so done, mate.
@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp
@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp 3 дня назад
Your recommendations are good but what hurts the show is the screenplay, not just the fact that it violates lore. If you want to tell a story about Anatar corrupting Celebrimbor, then you have to make these characters three-dimensional characters. You have to introduce them, show what they do in the normal part of their lives. Make them do interesting things on their own. And then you can set up both characters. You will have to show one that has the power to corrupt and the other to be corruptible. And you have to do it in a way that we all can relate to somehow. That both corruption and the ability corrupt have to be explained in terms that we can understand and relate to and have experiences in.
@jurgenkalowski1442
@jurgenkalowski1442 3 дня назад
💯%
@greenbrightly
@greenbrightly 2 дня назад
It could have been amazing you are absolutely right. I can’t bear that it exists it’s terrible.
@Jamie-v5o
@Jamie-v5o 3 дня назад
Amazon tried to turn Tolkien into a CW show and it just doesn't work.
@ameba5093
@ameba5093 2 дня назад
The key to Charlie Vickers doing well in this series is that since the first season he's been the only one in the whole series I'd fuck. And it's because he's a liar and a snake charmer, which fits the character.
@LM-vq7ju
@LM-vq7ju 3 дня назад
Waiting for the 2 hour fan edit of this season
@thewhitecitypodcast
@thewhitecitypodcast 3 дня назад
😂
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
Galadriel and Sauron may have had a bad breakup, but she's keeping the engagement ring. Then of course there's his former friend whose inevitable betrayal started it all off. Literally back stabbed, can you believe it? Spurned, Nice Guy Sauron heads off to find healing with a rebound romance, but his new girl is only a pale reminder of his ex. He gets his forge buddy to make rings to help keep his mind off things, but even there he's thwarted. Meanwhile the Dwarves. Then the Numenoreans. It all ends with a bang! Or rather, a big splash!
@gnarpow
@gnarpow 2 дня назад
It’s just weird how much they could’ve accomplished (DEI and all) with understanding of time and space. I don’t mean that corny: time and space. They could have created exciting narrative around that time and around that space
@kristianwesterdahl9576
@kristianwesterdahl9576 3 дня назад
And why on Arda did they make the statue of Fëanor bald??!? 😑
@doravee
@doravee День назад
Excellent article and video. I saw what happened on twitter, but you’re still right. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
@JTygerAU
@JTygerAU 2 дня назад
Thank you for acknowledging the actors - with the exception of the Stranger/Harfoot storyline I think they’re doing a bang up job with what they’re given. The mostly great portrayals of the characters actually highlights just how bad the script is. They really should have had the seasons of the show take place hundreds of years apart so each is a self contained short story with some of the long-lived / immortal characters tying the seasons into a grand arc. They sort of did this with the opening of season 2 which I thought was weird but what it tried to do was give that sense of the timescale.
@benjunum
@benjunum 3 дня назад
Loved the guac and coffee lead-in 😆
@janatman
@janatman 2 дня назад
as well as the deft transition to this series...
@evgeniytsarkov5679
@evgeniytsarkov5679 3 дня назад
The main problem of the show is that it is boring af. I'm not sure I can make it to the end of the season...
@VoltaDoMar
@VoltaDoMar 3 дня назад
I had fun watching and making fun of it in season one. But yeah, I'm finding season two just too boring to watch
@evgeniytsarkov5679
@evgeniytsarkov5679 3 дня назад
@@VoltaDoMar The first one was the same. I could not make it past Episode 5 and gave up. And then one girl on the Internet told me what happened in the last episode and kinda talked me into watching the rest of the season.
@hugomouro5909
@hugomouro5909 2 дня назад
Everyone has a personal hair stylist (the hairidrim as someone called them), except for Sauron.
@frankvandorp2059
@frankvandorp2059 3 дня назад
Tom Bumbledore's wizard school is one of the worst ideas ever.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
So YOU want to be a wizard? Thank you for considering Tom Bumbledore's Wizard School! Just a few quick questions to help us establish if we're the right place for you! (1) Can you carry a tune? Because singing is important to us. Very important. Very, very, very important. Did we mention it's important? Because it is. (2) How are you around trees? Might want to brush up on your Big Book Of Ooh That One'll Eat You. (3) No, really, how are you around trees? Because you will be required to choose your own staff from an entire forest of seemingly dead trees. Better have strong arm muscles! Oh, and be able to identify which one will eat you and which one won't, because just because they *look* dead doesn't mean they *are* dead. (3) What is your tolerance level for cryptic mystic information that may - or may not - be of vital import to the fate of nations, delivered as rambling pun-filled nonsense in a stream of consciousness style? Mmm, needs to be higher than that. No, higher still. A bit more, yes, that's it! (4) Are you a ruthless opportunist who would sell their own granny for a chance at moving up one rank of the ladder of Dark Wizardry, Light Wizardry, or Hmm Time To Put My Robes In The Wash Wizardry? Would you cheerfully abandon your friends to CERTAIN DEATH so you can fulfil your destiny? You are? You would? Then congratulations, welcome to Tom Bumbledore's Wizard School! Bath tubs are over there, ignore any mysterious female voices you might hear.
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 День назад
Not sure what people are smoking, but this season has been a dramatic improvement over season 1. (And I hated last season) Way more entertaining than whatever the second season of house of the dragon was
@stuffnsuch631
@stuffnsuch631 3 дня назад
They could have made separate shows that intertwine together occasionally. And also had better writers with less annoying actors with a splash of grace and testosterone
@Demishadow23
@Demishadow23 3 дня назад
You mention a sequence of events -and even more so- specific events that happened in Tolkiens notes which brings up an interesting question for me….how much of these specifics are in the content they bought the rights to? How much do they have to write differently then the stuff they don’t have the rights to? Do They have their hands tied behind their backs? Sauron invades Eregion, takes the nine, tortures Celebrinbor and finds out where the 7 are, then tortures him for the three. Fails to find out. Kills Celebrinbor and puts his body on his banner to scare his enemies…..they can’t use that. They don’t have the rights. Is it possible this was all doomed from the start and they really should have gotten the rights they needed to tell the best story…
@terrystewart1973
@terrystewart1973 2 дня назад
They certainly do have the rights to how the Great Rings were created, it's all in the Appendices. From 'The Tale of Years' 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenóreans begin to make permanent havens. *1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.* *1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.* 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves and Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 3 дня назад
React to council of the rings professionally remade episodes of ROP with fully illustrated images that’s fully voiced by him as well.
@sohamdas2
@sohamdas2 2 дня назад
You have a great voice.
@jurgenkalowski1442
@jurgenkalowski1442 3 дня назад
I think this episode had some really good moments but what really annoys me is that whenever a storyline gets interesting they switch to another storyline. How can you have 5 or 6 different storylines in one episode? Worst shit ever. I Don't care so much about the show being true to the lore. I mean it's worse than the movies from Peter Jackson for sure, but I was also pissed at the changes in the movies compared to the books.
@petriew2018
@petriew2018 3 дня назад
they fucked up with Celebrimbor by making him so visibly old.... and not just because elves don't get old, but because visually it disconnects you from what they want the character to be. For the arc they want for him they needed someone young, ambitious, too eager to make a name for himself and living in the shadow of older and more famous elves. This is not a complaint that they need to slavishly follow Tolkien, this is just basic writing in a visual medium. People have certain assumptions about characters based on visual cues. That's not a prejudice thing, that's just the way human brains work. You show us an older gentleman who's supposedly at the height of his power and already a master of his craft, the audience is simply NOT going to believe he's also a complete dumbass who's easily manipulated by some overtly sinister dude he already knows has an evil plan involving magical rings. You're fighting against ingrained expectations for absolutely no reason. The show does this constantly. The visuals and the storylines do not match up, and it undermines the believability of the narrative to a damning degree
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
They jumped the shark by having, in the very first freakin' season, Celebrimbor - grandson of Feanor, head of the master smiths - need to be told about "alloys" by some scruffy mortal who had been on his death-bed a day earlier. After that, it's been established he's a doddering idiot who can be easily manipulated 🙁
@BarsimonR
@BarsimonR День назад
Love your Forbes articles...keep on being the voice of fairness and reason Edit - Erik they ARE forging the Rings in order, in Poem order 🤣 They are forging the Rings and bestowing them in the order of the Lore poem From Tolkien... 3 Rings for Elven Kings under the sky 7 for the Dwarf Lords in their halls of stone 9 for Mortal Men doomed to die 1 for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne I wonder do they think this Poem represents the actual forging order? 🤔🤣
@ErikKain
@ErikKain 23 часа назад
@@BarsimonR ha that's exactly my theory
@BarsimonR
@BarsimonR 22 часа назад
@@ErikKain The scary thing is...its entirely plausible based on the show so far that you are right!
@kieran10202
@kieran10202 2 дня назад
I think a really simple change would be that the first 3 rings made ARE NOT the great rings. They're just lesser rings that do the job, but they're not celebrimbor's best work. For the 7 and the 9, I'm okay with them being given by the elves, but there should be a political reason for doing so. Numenor is supposed to hate the elves, but maybe celebrimbor thinks giving them rings of power will stop a war, maybe when that fails, the elves need to arm themselves, so they buy weapons from the dwarves with rings. Sauron could later persuade the numenoreans that the 9 rings make it possible to invade Valinor, causing numenor to fall.
@mathology5710
@mathology5710 3 дня назад
At least I learned one positive thing in this video; tortilla chips & guacamole paired with hot coffee! ☕ I actually want to try that out now.
@MatthewEverettGates
@MatthewEverettGates День назад
It's good- for ppl who like the spicy- there's smt about the acrid part of each taste that compliments
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
Though this episode, love was in the air! All the romances! First Galadriel gets all the boys, what with Adar buying her dinner, producing jewellery (well, Morgoth's crown) and sweet-talking her into an alliance. Then we have Poppy and Lizard-Boy. And now Miriel and Elendil! As well as the ongoing Disa and Prince Durin, Annatar and Mirdania (he's just using you girl, you're nothing but a rebound romance!) and of course Annatar and Celebrimbor. I'm beating my head off the walls due to all this (that isn't what happened to Morgoth's crown, the Faithful did not have Trial by Seamonster), but it's very romantic, isn't it? Poor Celebrimbor, he has a choice of "crazy or senile?" as he wrestles with those DEFIANT RINGS. I have to say, Charlie Vickers is impressing me; I didn't think much of him as Halbrand but he's really improved a lot as Annatar (except, as you say, for that ridiculous wig). If only the actors had been given decent lines and more than "we have to cram everything into two episodes", the Annatar storyline could have been excellent.
@TacticNorthEast
@TacticNorthEast 11 часов назад
Part of me thinks "it is what it is, get over it", and the other part of me thinks that this is what happens when you have showrunners who haven't a clue what they are doing. This could have been outstanding, should have been outstanding, but there are entire passages where I find myself switching off. I don't care at all about the Harfoots, or Numenor really. Dull dull dull. But still, for all of its issues, I love the show. This series is much better than the first.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 2 дня назад
Largely agree. I'm not certain, how much chronology would have mattered to Tolkien as long as the Rings of Power come across as a potentially corrupting influence underneath their powerful magical abilities (e.g. delaying the influence of Mordor unto Elvish and Dwarven lands in an artificial/corrupt idyll) - arguably the spirit of the literary source. Some say, the given decisions boil down to falling back simply unto an iconic, yet mere formal illustration of the 'folklore poem' on the Rings (when it should be a motif of corruption starting from the top as in Plato's 'Republic')... In my view the role of Melkor/Morgoth and his persistent influence in all creation - his continuity until the end of 'Ardar marred' - could have been emphasized as in my mind this is also the plausible source of the Rings' abilities and the reason why Sauron seeks to form a cult of Melkor across Ardar throughout the Second Age, legitimizing his own rule. It was a bold move - reminiscent of the Games of Thrones finale - to portrait Sauron as 'do-gooder' who won't rest until a total order is restored - his development from forcing matters on an anvil - which gets him killed by the weary Orcs - to subtly manipulate and instrumentalize natural inclinations could have been shown more often than 'told' in exposition dialogue - this would justify the introduction of Orcs as an independent faction as another gear in the drive of events, Sauron had to account for in centuries. The rushing of events almost looks as it may forebode cancellation with Season Two... and indeed, the filling of remaining content time with dank TV and movie tropes is telling of poor writing (an aspect, 100 million USD investment would have been well spent). As with the intersectionalist Disney shows, The Rings of Power will require energetic re-editing to invite a stimulating re-watch...
@JDgq3yj
@JDgq3yj 2 дня назад
I'm just waiting for Tom Bombadil to give the Stranger his blue hat, which looks suspiciously like Gandalf's from the Peter Jackson films. 🙄
@scotthallgv
@scotthallgv 3 дня назад
I keep watching your reviews and theyre great, but the greatest thing about them is how theyve reignited the need for me to revisit a long form piece of fantasy material and how ive started watching Game Of Thrones again. I loved the series the first time around but damn im enjoying it so much more now after having had the chance to forget large portions of it and get to rediscover them all over again. Im so glad youre taking the bullet on this one so I dont have to haha! Id forgotten how good GOT is, thanks for showing me the way back to it as I avoid all this current year trash I might have otherwise wasted countless hours on :D
@gregorycollins6561
@gregorycollins6561 3 дня назад
Great song!!!
@MatthewEverettGates
@MatthewEverettGates День назад
What is that song? >>Google won't show it to me ⌒(ё)⌒ 1st 5-6 pages and omits, at least; not in the music info section of description
@MatthewEverettGates
@MatthewEverettGates День назад
I see it now! AI by the vid 😢author. Cool
@Emixam9090
@Emixam9090 2 дня назад
I agree with you on everything. Sometimes I’m like: oh yeah finally it’s going somewhere, we are going to get the show that we deserve and then no, back to a below average generic fantasy serie because of the bad decisions made in the writing of season one.
@terrystewart1973
@terrystewart1973 2 дня назад
I think the glimpses of a potentially good show are just glimpses of the battered remnants of Tolkien's story really. And as much as I'd have liked them to stick to Tolkien's story, they could still have altered everything and created something worth watching. Look at Guy Ritchie's action-adventure steampunk Sherlock Holmes films, or the BBC TV series 'Sherlock', or even the 'Elementary TV series, not to mention the much earlier Basil Rathbone films. All are completely different to anything Conan Doyle ever wrote, but all work as entertainment and are at least fun to watch, plus you can watch the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Homes TV series if you want a proper representation of the Great Detective and his stories (highly recommended). That's why I think complaining about the lack of fidelity to Tolkien's lore is a bit of a red herring. Whilst it's annoying that the showrunners basically trashed what could have been a great lore-accurate show, even with the limited amount of stuff they were allowed to use, (and I'm sure Simon Tolkien would have given them more access to Tolkien's world if Amazon had flashed a bit more cash his way), they could have created something good of their own. But they didn't have a fraction of the talent needed to pull that off. As I keep saying, Rings of Power fails even on its own terms, or even as just a generic fantasy show entirely divorced from Tolkien - and fails at every level. What connection does the not-Gandalf and proto-Hobbit storyline have to anything else? Why should we care what happens in Numenor? Why does the show say Galadriel is a heroic figure when the show shows her to be anything but? Why did the show proudly show its version of a map of Middle Earth, but have its characters teleporting across thousands of miles in an instant? Does Gil Galad ever move away from that tree, and why is he the leader of the elves? Why the CONSTANT repurposing of lines from the Jackson movies if the writers can't even get the context of those lines correct? Why keep pretending there's some connection between this cr*p and either Jackson's films or Tolkien's books.
@geertpeels1124
@geertpeels1124 2 дня назад
No,its great show❤,i love it beautiful to watch,very negative reactions here,the people are spoiled
@williamhasewinkle7113
@williamhasewinkle7113 День назад
Even if it’ looks even this sucks. It’s good to be in that world with the characters which is pleasant to read. Read the books and then have some characterization of what blues characters might’ve looked like to be there with any errors or just join or whatever.sorry for the audio errors 9:16
@MatiasStubbe
@MatiasStubbe 3 дня назад
What was that Yoda impression? 😁😁
@tadlambert1493
@tadlambert1493 3 дня назад
That Robert Downy junior AI pic 😂😂😂
@JorJorIvanovitch
@JorJorIvanovitch 3 дня назад
One could even break the lore and do it in a more interesting way than this junk. The video games Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War had a better story than what we're getting for a $Billion.
@johndrobcuny376
@johndrobcuny376 День назад
Interesting that the episode was titled "Where is he?" Not that any of the jobs needed to be a man, but were they looking for a competent writer? A better showrunner? I wonder if someone on the inside was sending a cry for help to the outside world.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 дня назад
with Amazon rewriting Tolkien it could never in hell be great.
@lenoobpwner
@lenoobpwner 3 дня назад
lmaoooo that intro, the guac + hot coffee (I agree) and then RoP is NOT good hahhaa RoP is The Room (2003) without a cult following
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
This episode makes me want to kill Tom Bombadil. The Dwarf storyline is still the best (though Disa as Batwoman I could do without). Celebrimbor and Annatar are *finally* getting to what they should have been all along, and which we should have got in the first season. They've even showing, not telling: Sauron cutting his hand and then later handing over "oh look, I got you some powdered mithril" to Celebrimbor, which we can now go "Ahhhh - this is how he influences the rings for Men and gets the rings forged, by adding his own blood!" It's not canon but it works. The rest of it? They put Gandalf's speech word-for-word into Bombadil's mouth, but twisted it around instead of being "mercy, even to the wicked, is good" to "choose between *certain death* for your friend or your destiny!"
@ringbearer1420
@ringbearer1420 2 дня назад
Kinda hilarious they gave Numenor a Cthulhu…
@Kyarrix
@Kyarrix 2 дня назад
Hi Erik. This is off topic but I want to strongly recommend that you look into the carnivore diet. Please, for your health, do it. I apologize for being direct but this is important for your health. You have to reduce the inflammation and lose some of the weight. That means getting rid of the corn chips, the processed carbohydrates, the pro-inflammatory grain and seed oils. You don't necessarily have to adhere to a pure carnivore diet permanently but it's a good way to determine which foods you are uniquely sensitive to. It's also the best way to detoxify from a poor diet. Please take the time to look into this. I would be happy to provide resources but this is something I think you have to do and soon.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
The "Eat Like An Orc" diet - looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!
@chook1311
@chook1311 3 дня назад
Love your breakdowns! Although I didn’t realise yoda was Mexican
@vissersvet
@vissersvet День назад
(Off topic, sorry -- but what is the song you use in the first twenty seconds or so? Thx!)
@ErikKain
@ErikKain День назад
@@vissersvet one of my AI songs. I've been making these for all my videos recently.
@MatthewEverettGates
@MatthewEverettGates 2 дня назад
Listening to your comments makes me think of season 1- have only watched that- it appears they're trying to overlay the grand dramatic narrative onto melodrama. Could be done if the grand architecture of the structural story was kept intact. Could possibly raise their melodrama to high-mediocre level
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 3 дня назад
Every now and then, Foundation - per David S Goyer - gave me the same vibe. Almost. So close. Squint hard and tilt your head. And you can JUST see and hear what the show wanted to achieve and almost got there. It's still complete tosh.
@mhm2908
@mhm2908 День назад
Yes! Actually I have a very similar perspective as you do, on all these matters. I almost liked the deception scenes with Sauran and Celebrimbor for once, I don't mind Adar and Sauon too ... etc etc! So I will subscribe! Ha
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 3 дня назад
PS there is still so little star-power in this show. Those who can act aren't permitted to, those who can't just rush through their contrived encounters and it all feels vaguely degraded and fraudulent. They even screwed up Ben Daniels as Cirdan. Beard, no beard. Chuck the rings, advocate for the rings. Jesus H. More flipflops than Bondi in January.
@maryokeeffe3528
@maryokeeffe3528 2 дня назад
I'm glad for his sake that Joseph Mawle isn't in this season, but man, I wish he was back as Adar. He could have done so much with the little they gave the character. No blame to Sam Hazeldine, but he has a much different interpretation lacking that eerie, wistful melancholy mixed with threat that first season Adar had.
@duckdialectics8810
@duckdialectics8810 3 дня назад
It could have, had it been made by an entirely different team and for an entirely different public, it could have been different
@th33grimweaver
@th33grimweaver 3 дня назад
It says a lot that every established character is dogshit, and that the only character I've liked in the whole run of this show is the blonde elf smith whose name is uh... mem...orable. Also 6:57 had me laughing.
@kristianwesterdahl9576
@kristianwesterdahl9576 3 дня назад
Spot on. This could have been great… but sadly they had to write the story Tolkien never (ever) wrote.
@AnthonyBerkshire
@AnthonyBerkshire 3 дня назад
Everything is so rushed and yet they tell us almost nothing. Season one and two are both longer than the peter Jackson trilogy
@goodputin4324
@goodputin4324 14 часов назад
I stopped halfway during Episode 2 when I saw black and Asian elves. I am done.
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 3 дня назад
We could have still condensed the timeline while remaining true the story. We could have 2 main plotlines in season 1, southlands with Galadriel and Pharazon as a great general in the Númernórean colony. And Annatar in Eregion. I can condense the timeline and still come out with something good.
@dbapto6994
@dbapto6994 3 дня назад
Everybody's a writer now. 🙄
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 3 дня назад
@@dbapto6994 I don't know what this comment means.
@dbapto6994
@dbapto6994 3 дня назад
@@MRdaBakkle I think you do🤔
@petriew2018
@petriew2018 3 дня назад
honestly i have no idea why they condensed the timeline at all. Yeah, there's not a whole lot of detail in the appendices, but there's a lot of events with plenty of space to add detail in to.... you could have milked this for multiple shows over decades if you'd have just hired an adult to do the writing. Now they'll be lucky to get 3 seasons out of it....
@dbapto6994
@dbapto6994 2 дня назад
@@petriew2018 3 seasons is plenty
@Nemesios777
@Nemesios777 3 дня назад
out of 100 scenes 2 are good. not enough. directors and actors are untalented except the bad wizard which we know its an amazing actor. they just had one-two good random ideas thats it
@thehoneybunempress1664
@thehoneybunempress1664 2 дня назад
Remember when the writers of south park gave writing advice about the dangers of "and then" storytelling, aka episodic/contrived storytelling? The "But, because, therefore" rule? This show is reminding me of that. "And then....and then...and then..." 😴 And for the love of God Almighty, stop repurposing dialogues and scenes from the 3rd age! You're removing the context of those scenes! Look to real world eurasian mythology and history for inspiration. Ya know, what Tolkien did? Smh
@Louey_
@Louey_ День назад
Sure with different cast different writers different directors 😂
@alexmac83
@alexmac83 3 дня назад
Honestly I’ve disagreed with your opinion of the show since mid season 1, when in your opinion it fell off a cliff, but it’s nice to valid see compliments for Charlie Vickers and Charles Edwards. I’ve really enjoyed season 2, especially that dynamic between the two and feel like it’s been executed really well. Hopefully the last two episodes deliver on the promise of a full sacking of eregion. 👍
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 2 дня назад
@@alexmac83 cancel ROP
@Esta-Beed
@Esta-Beed 3 дня назад
Amazon's Rings of Prime is awful
@dbapto6994
@dbapto6994 3 дня назад
All new shows borrow from other shows
@kpsk8031
@kpsk8031 2 дня назад
In the past I have been too harsh when it came to American soap operas, their storylines, dialogue and acting. There was more thought, effort and talent in these shows than in Rings of Power. What a waste of money.
@eucalyptus3002
@eucalyptus3002 2 дня назад
You could have been great too 😢
@neildaly2635
@neildaly2635 3 дня назад
I would need something stronger than coffee if I was watching this rubbish. Cheers
@ameba5093
@ameba5093 2 дня назад
3:01 Mordor pronuciation really fits with spanish! "one does not simple pronounce Morrrrdorrr if you're not a Spanish guy"
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