If farmers weren't incentivized to overproduce, production would decline until it actually fit the demand, and then farmers would be free to set whichever prices worked best.
i recently realized that most people dont have explosive diarrhea daily, and after 17 years of my life I thought, "maybe I'm lactose intolerant..." milk was my downfall
Let me introduce you to lactose free milk. It lasts longer, tastes the same, and you can enjoy milk again! Only thing is you can't use it to cook/bake, it doesn't come out the same. Im surprised it's not more popular since science says literally about 80% of the US population will become lactose intolerant to a certain degree by the time they are in their 20s
During this pandemic I realized my body had stopped processing milk the same as when I was younger. I get cramped in the stomach if I drink more that half a glass... Glad to see nut milks are getting more prevalent these last few years. I still have options and that's all I care about.
Farms are producing more supply than there is demand for because they know the government will subsidize it. So basically taxpayers are paying farmers to produce more milk than is actually needed.
@@maidoll_fei I drive truck and have been picking up milk for the last 10 years. Farmers control how many cows they raise. They don't magically show up or decide when they want to have a calf by themselves.
yeah....I personally havent used milk products for years , I know people who have worked in the industry and its not only painful how these animals are treated but its disgusting aswell, dont have appetite for milk anymore , its also very bad for my skin and makes me break out...soo many reasons not to drink it , adult humans overall dont need milk
@@Ron1n_Sim looking at their comment history, I think they are a troll account trying to get people to rag on vegans. Either Way, best not to feed the trolls
Whey is made out of milk protein and the "gym culture" is on the rise, so maybe tapping on that market could be a good way to minimize the problem, also, Whey can last for a lot longer.
@@mixrable1212 Earthman, you must realize that the planet you lived on was commissioned, paid for and run by mice. They're protrusions into our dimension of hyper-intelligent beings. I don't know this cheese of which you speak, but they were there on Earth as mice experimenting on you.
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This video is a great example when government policy intends to help but in reality it hurts everyone. Of course no farmer is going to get out of milk production if the government guarantees pricing floors. There's no incentive to quit until your cost surpass the government price floor. So what we're going to get, probably, is lobbying for an increase in the price floor so the government can continue to inflate prices and horde cheese. This is 100% analogous to the student loan debt problem.
22 years in the business. Somehow the actual “farm gate” pay price (govt. floor plus buyer incentives minus trucking and marketing) always seems to be just below the average farm’s cost of production. This is what fuels consolidation and overproduction. The biggest dairies can get along with thin margins and bankers who can’t afford to lose them. The smaller farms run themselves into the ground trying to make any profit at all.
It is very hard to say if doing nothing or the opposite would not have also caused significant harm or issues. Plenty of nations do 0 subsidies and watch as their industries collapse from 1 natural disaster. Its more a issue of government structure and flexibility of planning, people lower on the bracket need to be able to make flexible decisions with the orders they are given, or else you end up with problems due to inability to react to change.
@@ashkitt7719 out west maybe..gonna be an every where war for everything..thats what they want..i dont understand how people are so blind and cant see what is going on.
China would buy it. Powdered milk is one of New Zealand's biggest exports. China stopped buying their milk for only a few days in the early 2000s over some trade negotiation and NZ's economy dipped like 4 points, lol.
We must address the serious question of this urgent dilemma facing Cows and Farmers, When will President Biden, Cut the Cheese, and break wind from this surplus ? The sooner the better, holding in all that cheese is surely bound to cause a funky big stink, especially if it's blue cheese, or turning green.
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@6:31 "As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't even be 'milk' on the carton. There's zero dairy in it." Just wait until this guy hears about peanut butter.
The pandemic really cut my milk tastebuds. I swapped cereal for oatmeal or baconeggcheeses. Now milk makes me gassy and bloated. And if I have cereal I use 2% milk. I was raised with that scam ass food pyramid they gave us in schools. I cut meat and milk out a lot these days.
I have been trying to go vegan, and my dairy consumption has decreased drastically. In hindsight, it is one of the best decisions I've made in my life.
Kudos to your efforts, but dude I don't believe in Kerala, let alone in India the cows or any milch animals are tortured for milk as seen in our western counterparts.
That would also help the cows who go through hell to produce that milk. Impregnated unnaturally, its calfs kept away from the milk that was produced for them, calfs (males) sold to butchers as soon as they are born...uff. And the cows also develop medical conditions because of vaccinations and steroids. Milk is the cruelest form of nutrients that we humans are dependent on. At least a slaughtered animal doesn't have to go through such daily torture.
@@Chin-Shan Everything you listed also happens in regular meat production though. With the possible exception of insta-butchered calves, but I don't feel like a cow's lifespan matters.
Because farmers are distributed in politically powerful states. They are a powerful constituency. It's the same reason we grow such ridiculous amounts of corn too.
The dairy lobby is oldest & strongest lobby group in the US. Lobby groups write laws and have legislators sponsor them - this is how it is a REQUIREMENT that schools MUST serve at least 2 kinds of milk in schools or they won't be reimbursed for meals. I ran an NSLP program & the requirements are online easily searchable. Until there are term limits & elimination of lobby groups, our government will continue to be ran by corporations & their own interests will be preserved. They want you to focus on the parties but the system is what needs overhauling for sustained change.
Government helping farmers during cyclical bad times sounds reasonable to me(to keep US self-reliant on food production), but propping them up continually past a major change in consumer preferences makes less sense to me. So, are lobby groups over influencing the government to act against the societal-economic good here?
not even that, its like coal. their dying industry has released a shit ton of angry voters who dont like seeing their way of life disappearing, just to be manipulated by local politicians
When did milk consumption reduce? Lol outside America everyone still consumes milk. The same Americans that gulp gallons of soda everyday be whining milk is unhealthy 🤦🏻♂️.
Because usa has largest industry of plant based milk, and india has largest milk dairy from which it profits a lot, if usa wants to destroy india, say indian milk is bad and say american plant based milk is best, HUGE PROFIT for MALECHAS, And also have a voice over of white lady in a sensual manner so brown countries get encouraged even more
That's why in Canada we have the market sharing quota. The production is determined by the government and the farmers share those production between them. We limits the importation of dairy products and the Canadian Dairy Commission fix the price of the milk each years. Because of that, we have saved the family farms, stabilise price for the producers and the consumer, and we don't have overproduction or over-industrialise farms (at least in the East of Canada).
If it works so well then why did Europe end the quota system? Also you do overproduce, but you guys send it to the US. I know a number of plants that were buying Canadian milk and making it into cheese.
@@mustang8206 Are you mad that some other country has done something more efficient than the states? I never thought American Republicans could be so in denial lol
@@mike_404 as long as we're being pedantic, is it safe to assume you're a calf? Otherwise you shouldn't be drinking milk at all if you want to follow definitions
Not only do I have no issues digesting milk, as a kid, my mother literally told me to stop, I was drinking her out of house and home! I used to drink a gallon of milk a day! Today, I'll still buy either Swiss fudge cookies or the Entemens chocolate frosted donuts and eat them with a nice tall glass of milk. 68% of adults can't digest it? Holy shit, I had no idea. As a black man, I guess I'm like finding the yeti!
I used to drink close to a gallon a day and my mom said the same thing I had 7 siblings so we normally had more than a gallon on hand My dad Insisted I was a growing boy and should consume as much as I needed
The prices where I live are $3 a gallon. Sadly since I live on a dairy farm where my dad works, we are going to have to move out soon because it's shutting down.
@@LiberatedAmon Dairy Farmers are not the stupid ones. They have zero control over the selling price of milk. The video pretty much covered the reasons of why the industry is flawed. Mostly government.
@@LiberatedAmon dairy farmers don't control the gallon price of milk at the store. Before you call the people feeding you stupid, take 30 seconds to Google government pricing controls on agriculture commodities
To be honest they should just focus on exporting the milk, in my country milk is expensive as fck , and only a couple companies produce it. Whenever I go to america, having a big jug of milk is heavenly
Exporting comes with a high cost. Storage, transportation and preservation of milk won't make much difference. Unless it's long shelf milk, which is factory made, not by farmers.
All that wasted milk. How many people could have been fed on producta made with that milk? The Western civilization cannot seem to live without wasting reaources in excess
@@ttrestle Progressives are the last people you want to consult for economics and financial advice. It amounts to "in will work out somehow" AOC, Biden's cabinet, etc proved this
Idgaf about political parties...it's the lobby groups & term limits that need to change. Rotate all the clowns through but ensure the system they're in works for the people not large corporations.
It’s probably so naive of me to say and due to lacking a full understanding of how the supply chain works but why can’t they just make less….stop raising so much livestock until it levels out. This seems like way more work to manage all this surplus’s than to just work less and produce less
The problem is generally that the govt doesn't take sufficient measures to help the farmers move to something else. And farmers continue producing same stuff because it sells(to the govt). India has similar issues with excess rice and wheat production. The govt keeps buying it, they have to because otherwise farmers will go in debt. And farmers keep producing same stuff because that is what sells easily. Govt need to balance out what they buy, and help producers shift to those needs accordingly.
You have perfectly described how a communist/socialist country work! The less they produce, the less money they can potentially make. Imagine if the local restaurant just stops cooking because there is no customer. May as well close up shop right?
@@weeksweeks9552 It seems pretty communistic to me when your government buying surplus diaries for the taxpayers money. Keep on producing stuff nobody wants, the government pays!
Meat and dairy farmers are trying to own labels like 'milk' and 'cream' as if things like peanut butter, face cream, coconut cream, coconut milk, soy milk etc haven't been around for decades
I doubt we’ll see milk fall off the shelf’s for quite a while but it kinda sucks bc I actually still drink milk regularly, I’ve been like that since I was basically born till now tbh lmao
Product is product, especially when it's food. I'm sure there's production steps to turn into something people will want to buy and eat. But with all that surplus... I mean the reason I don't eat that much cheese, aside from health reasons, is because they're so expensive, even American slices which are basically 50% fake cheese. When it isn't on sale, Kraft sells 16 slices for $4.00.
Yeah you can thank the governments minimum price for that bullshit. Cheese would be extremely cheap if they didn't keep milk as a decently priced commodity.
Processed cheese is just regular cheese heated with emulsifiers. Unlike "real" cheese, the fats and proteins don't separate when melted. It can't be called "real" cheese because the living bacteria cultures have been killed off.
Subsidies are not socialism. Forfeit your high school diploma (if you even have one). The free market would have collapsed long ago if it hadn't been for the government's actions. You're a victim of your own information bubble.
Re: dumping milk due to surplus - such a waste. Why didn't they (whoever "they" is) convert that milk into more butter, cheese, condensed milk, evaporated milk and especially POWDERED MILK????
They went over this in the video. The sheer volume of it is so massive that they can't get rid of it fast enough. The dairy farmers for some reason aren't recognizing to STOP making some when the excess is already so huge.
@@setcheck67 The main reason is that they have to continue to milk the cows even when they don’t need that amount of milk. Stopping milking the cows could cause bruising, udder injury, sickness and possibly death (if you stop for some time).
A lot of the farmers sold milk to companies that produced restaurant products like creamer and such. When you loose your vendor it’s not so easy to sell milk. when you don’t know the right people at the right time.
@@joeyjoe7930 That is slightly true in the short term, but long term these dairy farmers know they don't need this glut of production to continue for years on end. They're choosing to keep producing it anyway, because of the guaranteed value.
Stockpiling things your populace likes isn't a socialist tactic. Basically every government does it. Canada and Italy have massive stockpiles of maple syrup and parmesan cheese, respectively, for example. Having stockpiles of long-lasting forms of food is also just, like, never a bad idea. It's what we should do of surplus for food that will last a while before expiring (and in the case of some foods, especially cheeses and wines, even increase in value over time)
Hatte! I don't know about italy's parmesan, but that canadian maple syrup is held by a cartel, not by the canadian government. it's done by a bunch of industries, for example there is a stockpile of more than a year's world consumption of cocoa, and I would guess coffee too. governments keep reserves of actual strategic materials like petroleum products, but that's done to weather potential supply crises, not to prop up the industries producing them by buying supplies that will not be needed even in some sort of crisis. manufacturing stuff for government stockpiles is very much a soviet planned economy thing.
nader elshamy prove you're not a rap!st well now we're superior because we're damn near the only ones ackowledging our genocide (well at least the one, but it's not like y'all know about the other one, so we're good). willy brandt's kneeling in warsaw was some s tier germaning.
@@namehere4954 Those who drink milk passionately, already produce enough. Countries like India, are the biggest consumer and Producer of milk. They don't need American Companies to supply milk here.
@@thebestevertherewas yes, that's what I've said. Not only is the milk not wanted but it has adverse effects on local markets - the US did this to Haiti with rice and it destroyed Haitian rice market & created more poverty.
@@ChristianF15cher no respect for people who juice. I will have more respect for someone with 1/2 the muscle mass of Arnold but who didn't use steroids to get there.
The way we do things, with profit as the main focus and not societal welbeing.. seems to be today's biggest issue. We have such abundance.... instead small farmers are losing everything... Does not seem right.
Lol there has to be a motive for people to work. Usually when intellectuals step in to try and run a business like you described, they end up massively failing. "societal wellbeing" is an opinion after all.
@@acommentator69 Well, I personally volunteer a lot.... I feel happier serving what feels like a societal need over focusing on profit. After 25 years of serving a company that barely regards their employee's as anything but a number... After seeing people work themselves to literal death.. I'd rather give the kids a world they deserve then be so caught up about a man made fiction. Reality is, those with amazing skills and ideas are losing the game. How do we fix that? Its not the day we run out of quality produced food, we should begin asking that.
@@TherealSakuraKei What a joke. No one will accomplish anything with no incentive and those who want to will quickly get burned out working for nothing while watching 80% of the population sit on their ass. It will get old real quick. You are not entitled to jack shit.
@@acommentator69 Arguing with people on the internet isin't a job volunteer for though. You are also simultaneously in part correct. The worlds full of people. For some the insentive isin't money, its doing what is in moral alignment with their being. For many many others, its about what they can get for themselves.
Well, I drank milk until I was 30 and realized I’m lactose intolerant. And my daughter drank it until she was 5, until we realized she was lactose intolerant. My mom drank it till she was 60 and realized it was dairy causing all her issues. My brother is lactose intolerant too, but never would give up milk. Cow Milk isn’t the be all end all. Almond milk is compatible with our bodies!!
I couldn’t stop thinking about how Americans substituted milk for soda and cheese being on the rise just for its use with junk food. I know it kinda is a stereotype but lmao.
Actually, the processed cheese products you are thinking of are not popular and are basically desperation food. We do produce and consume a lot of 'real' cheeses in America. The problem with drinking milk is that the big factory farm corporations ultrapastrize and homogenize milk to make it have a longer shelf life, to increase profits, but it makes the milk taste weird. I drink milk all the time because there's a local creamery that sells superior milk.
Well, milk has also been getting worse and worse over the past 50 years. I used to love milk, not anymore. If it's high quality organic milk, it's _usually_ decent, but sometimes not even then.
Cow milk doesn't taste as good as oat milk & I'm saying that after I've had delicious cream top milk. Oat milk also doesn't add to our unfortunate carbon emission crisis
Have to get organic grass fed but it's like $5 a gallon. I buy it because I like to buy good food but also have the $$$ to. Unfortunately not everyone has that ability.
@@realityhittingme True. That's still cheaper per gallon than oat milk though, which someone suggested as a substitution in the comments. I also like spending money on food, I don't spend it on much else, actually.
Since I was little, I had been drinking milk for at least 25 years, not knowing that I was lactose intolerant. After quitting milk, I can breathe and sleep so much better.
@@Bryan-mi9pn It is good for the average person but not for people are are intolerant. This is like saying “People told me walking is good exercise but I have no legs, therefore walking is not good exercise.” It’s not good for YOU because of your unique physiological situation, that doesn’t mean it’s bad for everyone else or that there are no benefits. Milk is incredibly healthy and has save millions of lives with the invention of milk based formula for infants. I hate to admit it myself, but the government is right, at least on average, on this one.
It's a shame really, we call cows out mother, yet we support milk industry, the most crucial and exploitative industry of all, we force impregnate the poor cows every 10 months, we take their milk , we kill thier male calves and exploits the female ones, we beat them to death, we skin them alive , when kill them and sell thir meat and body parts for money.... If anything we should be ashamed of ourselves.
I've been drinking almond milk for over a decade now and honestly it just tastes way better to me, I can't go back to cow milk It really depends on the brand of almond milk though, because each brand tastes completely different
When the MMB in England and Wales was removed be the government dairy farmers had a once in a lifetime chance to really get the right price for their milk by working co-operatively. Milk Marque was successful to begin with and farmers achieved 26.6 ppl ( from memory), Guess what? Farmers are both greedy and bad business people. A chap from Northern Foods single handed lay ruined the dream for his fellow farmers by guaranteeing 1 ppl more than MMQ if they joined the Northern milk partnership. His fellow loons did and weakened the Milk Marque price but yes they got a penny more. I once asked a farmer in Oswestry if he’d be happy getting a penny more than 12 ppl. He said he would the daft pillock. The HUGE opportunity for dairy farmers in England and Wales was wrecked by farmers greed and stupidity. Last time I looked the milk price was still around 26 ppl 25 years later. The only saving grace is that dairy farmers are so stupid they still don’t see what damage they caused themselves. Richard Smith was the man who ruined the whole dairy industry for farmers by being as thick as two short planks.
In our country (sri lanka) there's no day without milk 😢 if American dairy consumption is low you'll can export to other country's(I'm not sure whether this is a good idea because I'm still 12 yrs old )
it possible to export it to other countries but exporting it take times Milk became sour very fast and so they need a faster way to export it like airport but it is still impossible to export it to country which are too far
@@baileyjerman5573 I'm not telling anyone to do anything. The market is speaking for itself and we should not have to waste our tax money on products that are just being tossed anyway. Do you always get this triggered???
Those poor cows and goats locked in those stalls with those pumps on their udders! I’m 45 years old and I think the last time I had milk I was like maybe 14! Just the thought of drinking it grosses me out especially after seeing the conditions that those animals are forced into, NO THANKS!
I have had milk straight from the cow, she lived in the barn under the house, at my aunty's farm in Spain. Commercial milk pales in comparison to fresh milk. Mum made us kids drink a pint of milk each day to build strong bones. That was in the late 60s early 70s when milk still tasted like milk.
I'm lucky enough that there's a big local dairy near the city I live in in America that only pasteurizes the milk and does still grass graze cattle. They have Ice cream shops that churn fresh soft serve on site and also sell the milk at the ice cream shops. The difference between it and the ultrapastrized and homogenized grocery store milk is like night and day. It's no wonder people don't want to drink that processed trash. People also don't want processed cheese anymore, which is why the American stockpile is just sitting there. It's worth paying a little more for far better product.
I had the privillege to taste fresh milk that didn't originate from supermarkets as well. It spoiled faster, yes, but it was so good, especially with the berries we used to gather!
@@raceris7309 raw milk does not spoil, it just changes form to cheese curds and whey / yogurt / soured milk. Just means the bacteria pre digests the milk so it is even easier to digest.
I had been able to eat dairy products in Spain no problem until I lived for a year in the US, a few months in I just could eat out nor eat anything premade since almost everything has cheese or cream. And I'm not the only person who became dairy intolerant after being in the US.
People are complicated things. And developing allergies after moving to a new area is a thing. Moving exposes you to a whole new set of things you can develop an allergy to over time. It happens to Americans moving within the country as well. I'm positive it works that way everywhere.
@@Magnulus76 true, i grew up in country that drink tea more than milk, and never lactose intolerance. Moved to US and became lactose intolerant, but i don't care i love American milk, so I keep drink the shit out of it. Since we do produce fresh milk commonly back home, we drink condensed or powdered milks there. I do not like that, and love the fresh milk in The States
We should all participate in a competition attempting to eat California reapers, and at the end gulp down a gallon of milk, will restore the demand and supply mismatch for once. As the gap closes reduce cattle head count. Lol I would eat a california reaper if it could help out the farmers. Oh how about mixing weed with california reaper, a must try rip recipe.
The entire video they talk only about the levels of consumption and production in the USA, but in the end they mention the percentage of lactose intolerants around the world(which as far as I know isn't the same as in the USA), as something that should affect the market...
@@scorpioteez233 plenty of cereal doesn't have much sugar. Most cereal I buy has 10g of sugar per cup or less. less than 20g sugar per day is perfectly healthy
@@poochyenarulez do they have other nutrition tho, and what about compared to foods like eggs? Ofc busy mornings are a thing and cereal isn’t a cardinal sin, but less sugar definitely better and cereal is such an easy way to consume it…
right especially when at the same time in the pandemic, cars were lined up by the hundreds to get food from shelters. The reason the milk was dumped was because they wanted to keep the milk price the same. By giving the excess milk away, the price and demand for milk would decrease. Since we live in Capitalism, we can't have that. The milk must be dumped into the sewers!
Instead of subsidized factory farming, pivot to a pasture raised livestock Model. Fewer cows on more land where they can eat grass and get sunshine. Adopt a regenerative grazing model. This is what people want. Healthy milk from healthy cows. End the raw milk ban. The homogeneous pasteurized milk lacks enzymes needed to digest milk. Raw milk has everything
Unfortunately there are those who want to capitilise everything as far as possible. Should really make laws that kimit how big these companies are allowed to get.
I can't stand milk, unless I'm eating Oreos. 😊 I chit myself whenever I drink milk or ingest dairy products. I've been trying to cut out dairy products from my diet for the last few years. Great life improvements.
People learned that you were injecting cows with antibiotics, that's why so many bacterias and virus strains have adapted and doesn't work. In Europe Doctors can't use antibiotics unless it's extreme emergency.
pretty sure theres laws when you export that much milk + health safety checks + huge transfer costs so the milk doesn't spoil (and even when they're at the exported area, milk only lasts for 2 weeks)
this reminds me of my moms side of the family, they were small time dairy farmers for generations, about 10 years ago though my uncle retired and now no one in my family is a farmer.
@@billbillerton6122 It's not too bad, I'm still in touch with my moms side of the families culture (Germanic American) so I figure that's more important than continuing to milk cows
Speaking as an exdairy farmer the faster the government gets out of the farmers business the better! I had a farm and milked 60 to 80 head in the 80’s and 90’s.
"the faster the government gets out of the farmers business" if milk prices were allowed to fluctuate to its market equilibrium it wound simply accelerate the number of farmers being driven out of business by big farming corporations.
@@turbulentmk then that's how it's supposed to be. If you can't compete in the market your business is not efficient enough and therefore should not continue to operate.
