The Rise and fall of the DCEU

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@TheSpawnfan 4 месяца назад

Can't fall if it never rose to begin with.

@anthonyness5360 4 месяца назад

🎉👌👍

@anthonyleach7608 4 месяца назад

Well Wonder Woman was a success with critic reception, audience reception, box office

@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 4 месяца назад

lease speak for yourself, plenty of people loved and still loved Man of Steel. Just stop@@ShortStoryUniverse_SSU

@bryanferratt6598 4 месяца назад

Just like Tyrese Gibson 😊😅😂.

@anthonyness5360 4 месяца назад

@@bryanferratt6598 🤣

@GalvatronStudios 4 месяца назад

There's gonna be a huge documentary about the DCEU landing on Max or some other streaming service in the future I’m calling it now.

@nunouno001 4 месяца назад

MAX is owned by WB, so any documentary they make is going to be a fluff piece that downplays or ignores their mistakes and failures. Any documentary about the downfall of the DCEU is going to have to come from outside sources if you want any authenticity.

@emperorsean1 4 месяца назад

Well youtubers have documented it pretty well and snyder released the behind the scenes before the love released.

@GalvatronStudios 4 месяца назад

@@emperorsean1 yeah, but there's probably some hidden secrets even RU-vidrs don’t know.

@tonyborris9584 4 месяца назад

There was no rise and fall because there was no rise to begin with. It was nothing but downhill after their BVS diaster, which was their SECOND MOVIE!

@nic2053 4 месяца назад

A lot of potential and chance’s that WB wasted.

@melvinkookiecruise3888 4 месяца назад

It's nice for someone like me to finally know the full story in regards to the DCEU and everything that went on, thank you Armin for making this video essay and much support from me and I hope you and your wife are having a good day😊💖🙏

@mandalorianhunter1 4 месяца назад

Honestly i think the escalation problem helped hurt it because it kept going up and up without thinking of the smaller conflicts that made some of the greatest MCU stories. Honestly i do like some of the shows, stories and more but it hurt when some of the shows kept getting worse and worse.

@TheLordsLegion 4 месяца назад

Genuinely refreshing style of video. Love to see more like this in the near future.

@omegamaximus1727 4 месяца назад

I am concerned right now if WB and DC keep failing, I am afraid that WB and DC may go bankrupt.

@Jay-vm4lc 4 месяца назад

2017 was the death of the dceu. I fully believe that after josstice league, WB had no interest in continuing the universe.

@LuisSanchez-by7mh 4 месяца назад

WB couldn’t decide on what they wanted and they turned down potential projects that could’ve made them a staple of comic book films like George Miller’s Justice League Mortal. Also getting and hiring the wrong people to do projects that didn’t make sense for the characters they were making movies about and hiring actors who didn’t fit their characters and ultimately ruined their run. Only getting short lived minimal successes like Aquaman and Wonder Woman and only achieving modest successes from then on and then bombed after bomb. It really didn’t help that people from Zack Snyder and David Ayer arrogantly thought they had a massive success and made fun of the competition only for that competition to kick their asses at the box office and Snyder making fun of the original source material and making fun fans of those source materials. The only success DC has had were movies that were not connected like The Batman and Joker never achieving the heights it was capable of and many hoped it could’ve reached.

@phillyvoodoo 4 месяца назад

Warner has owned DC Comics since the early 70s...... There is absolutely no excuse for them to not understand their cast of characters and what they mean to society as a whole

@_OUTOFBOUNDS_ 4 месяца назад

It's not that they didn't know, they just didn't care.

@omegamaximus1727 4 месяца назад

Justice League Mortal would’ve been awesome.

@cwell510 4 месяца назад

Great video! You did your research and it shows well. I'd like to see WBD eventually make a documentary about the failed DCEU from start to finish with lot's of "never before seen" footage, production stills, & interviews.

@josiahboom3185 4 месяца назад

I like these types of comic book history videos

@carl7667 4 месяца назад

WB been kinda shady since the superman 2 days in the 80s to be honest

@robertcoggeshall3071 4 месяца назад

It fell as soon as superman snapped zods neck. And had a looooonnnnggg fall after.

@delusionalpatriotsfan9858 4 месяца назад

I love that he snapped zod's Neck

@robertcoggeshall3071 4 месяца назад

@@delusionalpatriotsfan9858 your screen name suits you...

@delusionalpatriotsfan9858 4 месяца назад

@@robertcoggeshall3071 I wonder how long it took you to think that up

@robertcoggeshall3071 4 месяца назад

@@delusionalpatriotsfan9858 little more than a split second.

@delusionalpatriotsfan9858 4 месяца назад

@@robertcoggeshall3071 sure it did👍

@nunouno001 4 месяца назад

Nice to see a DCEU retrospective that doesn't white wash Zack Snyder's negative influence and reception in favor of pinning all the blame on WB. Don't get me wrong, WB definitively did horribly mismanage the DCEU and made a lot of mistakes. But that just begs the question, why did WB start screwing with everything? The answer is that Zack Snyder failed to deliver a strong and stable foundation to build the rest of the DCEU and the ground fell underneath WB's feet, sending them into a creative death spiral with no sense of direction or vision that eventually killed the franchise. Had a different director created a much more positive and warmly recieved inital start to the DCEU, like George Miller, WB would have never slammed their heads into the panic button and send the franchise into an early grave.

@ii-mp1sp 4 месяца назад

I read the script for Miller's League - it was terrible. If Snyder's League and Ayer's Squad came out in their original form, everything would be fine. If you don't believe it, watch the video reactions of other bloggers.

@nunouno001 4 месяца назад

Yes, compare the reception of a film that was never made to three films that were made and all were failed to perform to expectations or were negatively received. Yeah, that makes sense. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going to go watch Tim Burton’s Superman Lives with Nick Cage and make a vlog on how it’s much better than Superman Returns.

@jasonpeet6198 4 месяца назад

When batman vs superman was revealed it didnt have the dawn of justice part until later on

@ethankillion786 4 месяца назад

The DCEU tried to run instead of walk. Sometimes that work and sometimes it doesnt.

@carstenlizardschulz3128 4 месяца назад

Do more analyses like this one! Really enjoyed it. Brilliant!👌

@batboy9997 4 месяца назад

The New 52 scene with Batman stealing the ring off GL's finger would have been great played out by Reynolds and Bale.

@therabbit317 4 месяца назад

I would start a DC universe with Doctor Fate. You could actually have a magical Iron Man feel to it when he is in costume.

@johnmacloyd5800 4 месяца назад

Too late

@therabbit317 4 месяца назад

@johnmacloyd5800 the reason you I would do Dr Fate first is because different users and Nabo which is the God has a long historical which can be used to explaining the DV history at some point.

@charlyb5235 4 месяца назад

Amazing video!

@spacejam8765 4 месяца назад

Despite what people think, Green Lantern wasn't actually that bad. It's a huge improvement over Wonder Woman 1984.

@davidw.2791 4 месяца назад

Parallax being “a turd cloud” that ended up being killed/trapped by the sun may spell trouble for sequels in terms of Sinestro Corps lore but that was all I was “worried” about.

@Thelorecookie 4 месяца назад

Ngl I hope Armin does more video essays

@mattchew6426 4 месяца назад

Well done, Armin!!! You covered a lot of ground without getting bogged down in too much of the nonsense. It always seemed to me that WB execs got in the way of a proper DC cinematic experience...

@maskofshy 4 месяца назад

as far as I remember , the ZSJL cut extra budget was 70 M $, and Zack took non of it, all was destined to effects and actors of the ending with and Bruce's Knightmare dream ending with Martian. About the BLACK and WHITE version: 40:29 (yeah your comment is incomplete) Black and white is how Zack Snyder watched the movie when he was at home going through the footage, before the Snyder cut got announced, and Is how he got used to see the movie.

@hydrocodred6672 4 месяца назад

37:24 Imaginary Unicorn >:3

@dannywolfmang6458 4 месяца назад

I would love for you to do an MCU version of this. The rise and ......... Of the MCU

@eliteghost1001 4 месяца назад

Man WB needs to stop ruining and messing with films they dont know how to work on them wanting to take out the no mans lands scene in wonder woman makes no sense because if they did remove it the movie would not get recieved that well and would not be good and would fail. They needed to reboot the whole dc movie universe

@frizzyfrasher3400 4 месяца назад

Honestly I watched black adam only because to see just the cameo of Henry Cavill.

@awesomeperson531 4 месяца назад

I love these types of videos

@Seejayplayah444 4 месяца назад

The DCEU & ArrowVerse ended. But I still like to Hire those Same DC Actors in the DC Movies I Make.

@archlinuxuser 4 месяца назад

15:40 a handful of months.

@crisshowe138 3 месяца назад

They need to get their shit set together

@thegodofslayerentertain2678 4 месяца назад

DCEU is Changing

@ZealFork 4 месяца назад

Yeah so no DCEU but only DCU.

@thegodofslayerentertain2678 4 месяца назад

@@ZealFork Good. So They need to Give Us an Era Suits Like Me & Everyone

@unclecreed2986 4 месяца назад

When did it rise?

@anthonyleach7608 4 месяца назад

With Wonder Woman being a critical and box office success

@_OUTOFBOUNDS_ 4 месяца назад

@@anthonyleach7608A rise is sustained. It's not a rise if the next film after it bombs hard, which it it did (Justice League)

@greenlantern9577 3 месяца назад

The mcu is now failing but it can recover on deadpool3 Dcu can recover on superman legacy

@LinkMaster5555 4 месяца назад

It barely got off the ground lol so much misdirection and missed potential it hurts 😢

@bhunt799 4 месяца назад

The fall happened the moment they hired Zack Snyder.

@ZealFork 4 месяца назад

Yeah Sure so Man of Steel, Justice League and the other movies are trash ?! 🤨

@Ysl.phantom 4 месяца назад

While he wasn't the best choice them getting cold feet and editing everything made it worse

@orhanamin1347 4 месяца назад

FACTS!!!

@khizeryusufzai2185 4 месяца назад

Being fair to Snyder for a second he just wanted to make his small set of movies like Cristopher Reeves made his movies or Christopher Nolan did his, WB just made him do a full on cinematic universe. With that being said he made some dumb choices along the way which I think he realized so he planned for Flash to reboot the universe.

@Zeyrox1829 4 месяца назад

@@orhanamin1347bro change side. He said hired Zack Snyder is a downfall not FIRED.

@onepunchman2663 4 месяца назад

Gal And Henry Atleast Deserve One More Solo Films As Wonder Woman And Superman 🦸‍♂️

@djmattblack 4 месяца назад

Too many executive changes, too much studio interference and too many egos fighting for prominence are probably the main reasons why the DCEU failed

@dragonnet289 4 месяца назад

Why is Warner Brothers continuing with the DCU and getting rid of the old actors they were perfect I don't understand Warner Brothers deciding to get rid of Zack Snyder's universe Even though it made lots of money it could easily continue the franchise James Gunn's DC seem to a Mess One day the Snyder verse Will return because I refuse to watch the batverse and DCU or the joker movies and DCU never fail

@dragonnet289 4 месяца назад

@@user-qb4kz4ok2w Don't worry, it will be restored we just have to keep protesting until the Snyder verse comes back

@anthonyleach7608 4 месяца назад

Think about this a movie that has Batman and Superman on screen for the first time together with Wonder Woman having a supporting cameo role, her feature film debut did not cross the billion-dollar mark. that movie should have been 1.5 to 2 billion dollars easily since those are the most iconic well-known superheroes in American history. But a movie about Aquaman who has been the butt of jokes for decades did cross the billion-dollar mark and after that movie every film after that did not make over 400 million dollars. The majority of films that are in that franchise either flopped harder than a fat person swan diving into a pool or underperformed.

@dragonnet289 4 месяца назад

@@anthonyleach7608 well man of steel still made 225 million U.S. dollars.budget of 263 million U.S. dollars, It's pretty good box office for DC it was a great start to a great film series

@Thelorecookie 4 месяца назад

I will answer that. The audience was burnt out. We wanted something fresh and new but WB ruined it. After BvS failed (I know it made 800mil that is still very low considering this movie was estimated to cross the billion dollar line easily) which was partially due to WB who cut the movie down and removed scenes so it was shorter, WB got scared so they ruined Suicide Squad to try to copy Deadpool and GOTG. WW was good but they still were scared so they gave us the abomination Justice League. Aquaman made 1 billion dollars because they made a movie that appealed to everyone while the Snyder films really only appeal to a small quadrant of movie lovers. WB either made bad movies on good characters or used characters no one was interested in from that point on. Now Ben Affleck has his experience ruined of superhero movies by Joss Whedon, Ezra is now a criminal and Ray is on bad terms with WB. James put the DCEU out of its misery. Maybe once it had potential but WB ruined it so now James Gunn is having a crack and hopefully his will be good.

@robertcoggeshall3071 4 месяца назад

Almost every character was poorly cast, and badly written. Affleck was easily the best of the bunch, and he didn't even get a solo movie, just got wasted in the abominable bvs.

@Minty0091 4 месяца назад

Green lantern 2011 is a Good Movie.

@freezeblazestar1079 4 месяца назад

zack snyder is wrost director of all time

@andrewsteele9165 4 месяца назад

There's so many inaccuracies, made up quotes, stories and numbers you should do some reshoots yourself. Tho i did enjoy this so points for that

@user-uc3rq8kt6b 4 месяца назад

I bet he has been waiting ao long to do this......smh lol

@martinmomanyi6803 4 месяца назад

reason why dceu failed is lack of connectivity in terms of story with different dc projects

@user-sr6rm9yy1o 4 месяца назад

We want Gal Gadot back for Wonder Woman 3 😢😢😢😢

@AhamedMohammed507 4 месяца назад

No , we don’t

@user-sr6rm9yy1o 4 месяца назад

@@AhamedMohammed507 yes we do..

@omikhan6411 4 месяца назад

Tbh I think dcu made a huge mistake by letting Gal Gadot go. Next ww is going to be a massive flop

@blackpinklisa3615 4 месяца назад

Lets Protest For Gal Gadot And Herny 💔 💔 💔 😔 😟 🙁

@SilasBlanks71912 4 месяца назад

DC super heros and super villians are so much more unrealistic than MCU heros and villians😂

@robertcoggeshall3071 4 месяца назад

That's a big problem for the dcu.

@derekfreeman1942 4 месяца назад

No one wants to hear you hating banobo talk about the dceu.

@adrianflemming1898 4 месяца назад

WB should sell trying to make DC into Marvel is what killed the Brand

@AhamedMohammed507 4 месяца назад

Not happening

@adrianflemming1898 4 месяца назад

@@AhamedMohammed507I know it’s not happening but that’s why their movies are gonna continue to bomb at the theaters because they lost the fanbase

@EddieParker-lb3vi 4 месяца назад

I can't 👀 where the Heck HULK was a BOMB!! The Incredible Hulk WASN'T REALLY That Much Better!! It seems Folks trashed Hulk because it was made CGI directed by an oriental director the same way "Dark Phoenix " Witless Fans wants give credit to folks those characters are connected with.. How has The MCU handled the mutants since getting them back? Dark Phoenix been out 4,5 yrs & Namor, The Sub Mariner is the Best they can do since then 😒??