The Rise Of Skywalker STILL Sucks 

Somehow, plot happened.

Lets prey on nostalgia!

Everytime I see a sequel defender and I point out how none of the previously established force laws are followed in the sequel trilogy they have no answer. Where the hell did force heal come from? Force Skype? Force teleportation? Flying with the force? I mean christ it's just shitting all over the lore. Jedi aren't meant to be gods, there have always been limitations in Star Wars, that's what makes it interesting.

Yeah the force rules are inconsistent but the force was always meant to be a plot device. Disney took it a bit farther than Lucas but it isn't enough to ruin the trilogy. If force lightning wasn't in ROTJ and was invented in the sequels people would freak out. But somehow, when Lucas pulled it out of his ass in ROTJ it was totally fine.

That’s not how it works, that’s not how any of this works

Thing is both times under Lucas' direction made sense. In episode 3 he was intentionally deforming himself so he could gain sympathy from the senate. And in ROTJ he didn't electrocute himself, he was zapping vader to try and kill him so he wouldn't get yeet. JJ Abrams has no excuse.

@@War450 your ROTJ example makes sense but using his deformed figure as a means to gain sympathy with the Senate is more of a tactic after the fact rather than an initial reason. IDK maybe there’s some book material out there I’m not aware of the elaborates on how Palpatine was thinking of how to play off his fight with Mace Windu to the Senate mid fight with Mace Windu holding a lightsaber over him.

@@Splinter_Fritz It wasn't JUST the senate, it was Anakin too. In the moment he was playing up to Anakin "I'm too weak, please, don't kill me" as he's all deformed and burning. So the first time he zap'd himself it was intentional strategy to win both Anakin and the senate to his side, the second time he did it was an attempt to kill Vader and save his own life. Disney writers are so creatively bankrupt they couldn't figure out WHY Palpatine zap'd himself and just decided to go for a third time without any of the actual story to justify it.

@@War450 I always thought of it as him trying to zap Windu at first, not noticing he could deflect his force lightning, but then rolling with it when he saw he could use it to his advantage somehow, like appearing weak to Ani and playing up his injuries to the Senate

Also in episode 3 he was doing it to manipulate Anakin

Yeah, as much as I hated TLJ, they should've stuck with where the formula was going, instead of trying to fix everything in ONE movie.

@@sttubz Duel of the Fates script is the true sequel to TLJ.

@@virgogaming6488 A fellow Jeremy Jahns fan 😂 nice

It became the very thing it swore to destroy!

@@sttubz they should've also stuck with the same formala left off in TFA but not...they couldn't decide which formula and narrative to stick with.

Every writing class ever: It’s important to show not tell TRoS: I AM THE SPY

A masterpiece of sand, its course, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere

@@lukew8337 Well, off to visit the oscars!

It's not the actual Disney, just a bunch of random people which have bought in the company

I would throw the whole Sequel trilogy in there but especially TLJ. That dumpster fire must be studied in schools as an example of a script that's so fundamentally broken. It snaps at the slightest touch and actively wastes times with stuff that goes nowhere or disrespects the lore/characters.

Ngl I can’t tell if this is satire or if you actually found it reasonable that Rey could do all that without training

@@JeanneDaylight They’re saying the fact that Luke’s progression as a Jedi is EARNED makes even three rocks impressive, but that Rey’s unearned talent with the force makes all her feats meaningless

Pepperidge Farm remembers

She had been training for 8 months at that point, though. I'm pretty sure Luke would be able to do the same by then.

Not defending TROS, but man is it annoying when people try to create plot holes or lazy writing criticism by forcing a square peg into a round hole. Remember when Luke was stacking three rocks...carefully balanced on top of one another despite being rounded...while doing a one-handed handstand with Yoda balanced on one of his feet? (note: he wasn't trying to stack the rocks, he did it very well, but then lost his focus when R2 alerted him to the sinking X-Wing) Remember in Luke's final training scene, when he lifts up multiple heavy boxes (and R2) at once...while doing a handstand...while losing himself to Force visions? There's absolutely nothing inappropriate about Rey circling a bunch of rocks in a pattern while floating in the center of them, relative to the activities above. They were quite different, and the first of the two listed for Luke was all about control, not power or quantity. Passage of time is vague in these movies, but both seem to have had similar training by these respective points in their stories. Yeesh...

BURN

Imposible, perhaps the sequels are incomplete

Hello there

@@RiderZer0 wait a minute, how did this happen, that’s my line!

@@generalkenobi2088 how did this happen? We’re smarter than this…

For real, it should have been in this video; Palps was like "fulfill your destiny and strike me down" to which she says no... only for him to go like "so be it" and then she ends up killing him anyway free of consequence... Absolutelly pathetic writting, who would have even come up with that logic?

@@krixtorei the entire trilogy feels like it was written by a student who goofed off the entire time their essay was due and had to write the whole thing in an hour

@@ninjafrog6966 It feels like a first draft where the author constantly changed his mind what was supposed to happen scene-to-scene but instead of making it make sense in future drafts, he just turned that one in.

Well she did killed him so why isnt she posessed?🤨

In the original Vader killed Palpatine then die shortafter so he won't posses Luke

*9000

Rei doesn't care about kids. That's why she didn't even bring up that Kylo killed Luke's other students.

youngling b gone

@@arftrooper44 why are you correcting them

It's the 9000.

It's amazing they turned out the way they did. Like how and why.

They’re not cannon, don’t worry

At least we got TLJ

@@aresef what?

Honestly, I liked force awakens, and I didn’t hate the last Jedi, but rise of Skywalker just hurts my soul

Yes 🙌

The sequel trilogy in general is.

Do you know there are CinemaWins videos for all three movies of the sequel trilogy?

@@the9der352 This is impossible...unless they are like 1 minute long total at most

The Holiday special is much more of a crime against Star Wars, and perhaps The Clone Wars 2003.

When a fetch quest leads to another fetch quest, which leads to another fetch quest and so on...

@@blacksteelqc1972 Nier Replicant type beat

Sounds like a fucking child wrote it. Simply pathetic. Disney should just de-canonize this utter garbage.

@@verbalkint4258 I’d be okay with that

@Lord Revan ?

Feelsbadman I fricking loved Cal. I thought he was a good character with cool powers coming with, but then Rey stole part of that.

“Let the ginger have his own thing” I’m dead 💀

@@simplyz3964 Cal is great, I love the game. Hopefully they make a show about him or a movie, I'd pay to see his character in live action.

“Horrible things have happened with this” meanwhile the youngling slayer 9000

@@verbalkint4258 Let's hope that we get some good writers though, or it'll be a fate worse than order 66.

Shame on him because the prequel trilogy is not only better, but also a lot more memeable than that sequel shit.

And yet there’s still people that claim it’s an amazing movie

No, the film was messy because he only had 2 years to make a finale

@@PCGeines Tell that to kanjiklub.

TFA was bad too but no one was being more objective about its dumb flaws other than being ANH ripoff.

This weapon can shoot. Let’s call it the shooterweapon

@@me_sad Don't give Disney more ideas

Prequel dialogue = Star War Episode 8 and 9

@@Iwanwahid1969 Nah, the Prequels story and dialogue at lest made sense

The entire trilogy of Disney sucks

@@Iwanwahid1969 wrong, kid

@@thekodex1186 yeah it all made sense specially anakin and padmes dialogue

So a natural question arises. Was it worth canceling Expanded Universe for this?

@@user-lr4qd9hp5x obviously no

@@user-lr4qd9hp5x Come on man

The EU was glorified fanfiction George never considered canon to his Star Wars.

@Lord Revan Disney decides what is canon now. George may have borrowed from the EU for his films but it was never canon.

I honestly thought the way finder was something else. I’m still gonna call it a Holocron. How dare they disrespect Clone wars

@@sokhi4415 That’s kinda what it felt like

Promise you that nobody at Darth Disney knows what a "Sith" is.

@@sokhi4415 An 8yo would write a more compelling story than this pile of trash.

Exactly. Clone Wars was made by someone that actually likes and respects Star Wars and George Lucas.

In fact its a miricle that anakin as a war hero never met him until revenge of the sith lol

Lol open your eyes bud. Star Wars contradicts itself all the time in all the movies.

@@movieswithmatticus5469 not this bad

I feel like they could’ve met but that was their thing, to make fun of one another (kinda like ventress and Obi Wan).

I just ignore it. Ignorance is bliss. If you don't admit that it exists you can't consider it Canon

It's why the only Star Wars saga movies that technically matter now are 8 and 9. It's pointless to watch 1-6.

The sequels aren't Canon for me!!!!

The sequels doesn't exist for me.

@@emre30489 mah man!!!

well youre lucky disney themselves dont consider them canon anymore. All the new Star wars content that is coming out series and movies are all based on the old 6 movies and happen inbetween theae. None of the new series have anything to do with the sequels. Disney seemed to realise its better to just stay in the old timeline as it is easier to write for and not fuck up new characters

Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way

Correction: everything before this movie is cannon. This will never be in my opinion.

@@jemert96 it should

@@jwhitaker42599 tfa ruined han and leia tlj ruined luke tros ruined skywalker saga

The Force Awakens The Last Jedi The Rise of Skywalker (from his bed)

Also... there were still people on that ship. Just because she didnt kill chewie, it doesnt mean she's not a murderer

@@SirSoloSoul That's a good point too! I never really thought about that tbh!

@@maddisonwomack6430 By the end of the trilogy, every skywalker is dead and Rey who is a Palpatine lives on. It feels like they almost wanted to make her a sith in the next trilogy.

If this movie had some balls Rey killing Chewie by accident would have given her a flaw.

I don’t know what you’re talking about this was the best part by a landslide. Like most good jokes I was not expecting Rey to suddenly develop lightning powers just in time to kill someone with it by accident and I definitely was not expecting Rey to be unable to fix everything with her god-like force powers. The direction on her and Finn’s screaming afterwards is the cherry on top. It’s like something you’d see in a RU-vid parody; I genuinely had to hold back my laughing to avoid people looking at me funny in the theatre. Funniest part by a landslide 10/10.

@Lord Revan that’s the spirit

Metal Gear Rising Revengeance coming back after a decade with it's M E M E S; for example: "Doktor, turn off my cringe inhibitors." "What? Th- this is madness!" "Just do it!" *groans in pain* "Cringe... this is why I fight..."

Remember Juan, the memes will be with you, always

If shitting on something I love is the only positive way to experience it then it's really only numbing the pain.

memes juan the dna of the soul

Yeah WTH! Rey and Ben should have totally been dead if that were to happen although the Hondo maneuver only went through half of the right wing of ship and not the middle where the throne room would be supposedly

@@om3gared66 what are you talking about? They meant the throne room on the death star, not the throne room from last jedi

@@patricknathan5805 oh... I didn't realize that until now

and who the heck makes a dagger with the same form from an exact view from a certain point in a lost planet of some previously inexistent ruins from a deathstar that was suposed completely vanished hahahahaha, i imagine the guy forging the dagger in the middle of nowhere focusing on that exact point of the emperors throne, just really stupid

To be fair, Palpy’s Man Cave was at the top of a spire on the surface of DS2. It’s at least conceivable that it could have survived the explosion. Who knows, maybe the Rebels blew up the tower after Luke and Anakin made it to the hangar and before the reactor exploded. 🤷‍♂️

I mean Rey Palpatine is alive and like every skywalker and solo is dead sooo

@@mcboat3467 Yeah, but You know nobody will be interested in continuing Rey's story unless they make her the villain or have it to where throughout a possible next trilogy that she becomes the Villain although that wouldn't work unless you had other interesting villains and characters to fill the void of two movies. I think it can be done as long as fans and the actors would agree to it and not be forced to

I wanted Rey die too so both Jedi and Sith simply cease to exist

They won't even understand what any of this means , they literally called a holocron from clone wars a "WaYfinDer"

Poo is solid, except when it’s liquid

@@J.Gingham Indeed. While we call frozen water "ice", there's no logical argument from calling "ice" "solid water".

and the floor is made out of floor

Me, a d-hole: "Not necessarily..." *stares at a sentence saying ice is just solid water*

One of the biggest criticisms of the prequels was too much politics. This time around they said no politics at all. They just assumed the fans were stupid and these things didn't need to be explained.

Bruh why pilot them even, put a droid in each and kamikaze into Palpatine at lightspeed like that pink hair hobo general did in 8

@@arftrooper44 ik it was illogical. But that looked cool though

@@kunalpandey4837 I can't even remember how it looked, all I remember from that moment was my frustration, disgust and disappointment for the movie

Only theory I could possibly come up with as to how THAT happened is this: Lando and Chewie went to the Core Worlds and issued an ultimatum. Either EVERYONE in the freaking galaxy goes to "Exticle" to fight, or else each and every one of them would suffer "dire consequences". Whether that meant Chewie ripping arms off, or Lando dropping his pants and "doing the Kessel Run" on everybody. And their plan was to do that to everyone they were asking for help. Every. Last. One.

"Somehow, Palpatine returned." 😐

You're wrong. These people are extremely good at their job. Their goal was never to profit from a now dead franchise, but to kill it was their original aim all along. They are destroying every cultural element that gives sane people hope.

@@dondeestaCarterGot me in the first half honestly

Well shit. It didn't occur to me there hadn't been a scene with those three together, know I know. Thanks.

@@dondeestaCarterI thought you were going to say that Disney was constantly interfering with it like they did with Wish (if that's even what happened I'm not too well informed on it)

Why did I read this as *"Next time on: 'Someone Wants To Insult The Prequels' I'll use this as a counter argument!"* with a Top Gear-style narration?

Same The Prequels are already a dead horse

I think most people who hate on the prequel are just jumping on the "prequels we're bad" band wagon/mob mentality. Especially younger ones who already have a predisposition to view them as bad because of what others have said. There are many strong points with some awesome stuff in the prequels. i think the two biggest complaints is Jar Jar Binks and Anakin's acting. (I hate sand) . But there are SO many cool things brought into the SW world thanks to the prequels.

I mean the prequels aren’t great either - saying one thing has problems doesn’t negate the fact the other thing does as well. The prequels were more unified in their vision though - they had good ideas but poor execution - but in the last movie tied everything together decently so they come off slightly better. The sequels also had some good ideas but were disjointed because two people wrote them and they didn’t have a plan so they come off as worse.

@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte I don't know what you are speaking. Beep boop beep

*W I D E B O I 🅱 E N S W O L O*

The sequel thrilogy is not even worth meming. The memes are only funny if the movie is actually good but you want to make light-hearted fun of it

He's frickin' gone.

☹️

@The Tyro of Toriyama Haha yeah, good point

they deffo took that part from harry potter when harry just yeets the wand

Good. Let the hate flow through you, just as it has flowed through me.

Jesus christ man, no one has noticed you here.

Hey ur dope

Ur awesome

The force is strong with this one

You end up with the Battlefield Earth equivalent of Star Wars.

@@virgogaming6488 BE is way better than the disney trilogy.

I think AI would have written something better

@@agoldenage9918 Disney trilogy is quite janky, and sometimes very bad, but Battlefield Earth is on a whole, untouchable level of bad.

@@nicholasmendoza3550 BE is bad in a fun way. Disney Star Wars is bad in a bad way.

Don't forget Nien Nunb's 1 second cameo of him exploding, just in case you assumed Nien Nunb lived a long and happy life.

@@RorikH ROFL

TFA was actually pretty good imo. I just liked it as a “set up” film to what would be better films. But after episodes 8 and 9. TFA is just unwatchable because of what happens in 8 and 9.

@@sokit2em it definetly set up a few good points, but in some ways it also wrote the whole sequel trilogy into a corner, for example, Rey being too powerfull to begin with. But then, the Kylo, Finn, Snoke, Pow, etc etc stories could have gone literally anywhere, hell even Rey being so powerfull could have been fix if you think about it. Such a shame how it all ended

Well in my opinion it was The Last Jedi that ruined the trilogy. Destroyed Luke's character, killed off Snoke who was actually interesting, the space casino arc which was nonsensical, Leia being blasted into space then using the force to fly, hyperspace kamikaze, no depth given to any of the main characters and its the second film of the trilogy, it's all just terrible. I don't entirely blame JJ for bringing Palpatine back because with Rian Johnson killing off the biggest villain, he didn't have a whole lot to choose from.

@@verbalkint4258 I didn’t ask.

Absolutely. And Verbal Kint is precisely the kind of audience member JJ is capitulating to with TRoS.

@@thewhatness what are you talking about? I hated TROS. I just hate TLJ more for the reasons I stated. You and the OP are just weirdos.

@@verbalkint4258 Snoke is biggest villain? Kylo was always intended to be the main villain, same as Vader in the OT. And Rey and Kylo were given a ton of character development (maybe too much) so at least a few of the main characters got development. Just sad Finn didn't get the same treatment

Disney trilogy is not made for the fans, but for the casual viewers, because it brings them more profit. Someday they will grow their own fanbase which will eat any garbage created by Disney

Honestly, if they REALLY wanted to make a sequel, why not just adapt the Yuuzhan Vong invasion on screen? jesus

sequel trilogy: why not to make a trilogy like this xd

Sequel trilogy : what is a trilogy

@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte prequels are muuuch better than sequels for gods sake😂

@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte They have plenty

Sequel trilogy: tRiLoGiEs ArE hArD

Just realised there was a part one, just as funny. Somehow Nutsa's editing got better.

yeah i love this video

Its better then the entire sequel series

The prequels aged like cheap but decent wine. The sequels well, they outright took a shit into the barrel.

Yep

Make this Canon it's the only way to fix this shit ur a genius

I never thought bout this probably coz when you’re getting electrocuted the muscles tend to cramp and make it hard to move but honestly that just sounds too weak of an explanation for the ol mighty palpatine lol

If you could fling electricity from your fingertips, would you ever stop?

@@belot217 lol too true

Palpatine didn’t stop shooting his lighting in ROTS to make anakin save him, so he could turn anakin to the dark side!

You’re right but both times he was caught off guard this time he could have just stopped… and force choked her

That would have been amazing! I can’t believe they didn’t do an Anakin vs sidious rematch

Could I ask you to explain your points in more detail? They sound interesting.

@@ChrisTheOnly I’m gonna wait on the fan fic video

Other than C3PO expressly having his memory wiped in Ep3 the rest of it definitely works. I have 1 phrase to fix Rise: Have RJ come back to do Episode 9 instead of JJ.

@@pt2k645 I’d rather Dave Filoni or Jon Favreau come and write and direct it. That way it’d be epic

Haha. They were never underrated, they were just bad in a different way. The sequels stinking doesn't suddently make the prequels good

@@monmothma3358 Ah another prequel hater, the prequels were decent movies. You can't tell me you didn't enjoy Darth Maul, Jango Fett, the clone army, Count Dooku, Yoda vs Palpatine, Anakin vs Obi-wan and the fall of the jedi order. Honestly Revenge of the Sith is one of the best Star Wars movies of them all friendly on who you ask.

@@Ace_of_Horns Glad you enjoy them. Actually, I'd say I'm a sequel hater, and a prequel disliker. That is, I like a lot of the ideas of the prequels. Such as a dictator wannabe tricking people into electing him, and someone turning bad out of fear of loss. Lucas had some great ideas and visions, he was just horrible at executing them. He hadn't directed a movie since 1977. Storytelling and dialogue were beyond horrible. What Disney did, however, was worse. Those movies have better acting and effects. Dialogue at least sounds human. But there were no visions whatsovever, no road map, no story they wanted to tell. They just wanted to make Star Wars because they could, and to cash in. There is just no excuse for that. It's baffling.

@@monmothma3358 Prequels are literally the best star wars movies but ok. And they definitely have a better and more interesting story than "haha white robe blue sword gud black robe red sword bad"

@@Jeyeyeyey The best people are those who manage to agree to disagree. Let's do that

The sequels are in a paralell universe.

Oh I didn't know that thanks for the info! 😁 On that note though.... didn't Rey abruptly switch off her lightning eariler in the movie? And she isn't even a dark side user while Palpatine is the strongest Sith alive ("aLL tHe sITh" if you will). So I would still like to think that writers didn't do this on purpose.

Not to mention his duel with Yoda, he kept shooting quick blasts of force lightning

@@exothermic1942 you guys are thinking to hard

@@FluffyBunniesOnFire did you just try to apply science to star wars? U know star wars has sound and fire in space right?

@@fnfn9229 we're star wars fans. That's literally what we do.

I've retconned them in my mind

I don't think it is possible anymore since Harrison Ford hate Star Wars and Carrie Fisher have passed away (R.I.P)

U gotta be baked beyond the Sun man.

Well it's just standard levitation though. It's not like when Yoda lifted Luke's X-Wing that it was flying while a few feet off from the ground

Theey FLY now?

@@om3gared66 no jedi in any film or show has ever been shown to levitate. They are able to use the force to move other objects but fly themselves? Never.

@@verbalkint4258 Bro Count Dooku levitated himself in the clone wars micro series although I don't think it's Canon anymore

@@om3gared66 yeah it isn't anymore dude.