OH MY GOD MY MOM WAS LIKE THIS. She would say I was too thin-skinned and needed to toughen up before I went out into the world, so she made sure she hurt me before anyone else did. I have to say, it worked. I can right myself without help and get myself out of any situation, which included telling my mom to go f#ck herself. I have tons of emotional baggage, have trouble having healthy relationships, deal with physical pain every day caused by years of stress, but small price to pay, right?
@@Cat-tastrophee Same. And now in their old age, confronted with their actions, my parents act like they have no idea what I'm talking about and are confused as to why I'm not well-adjusted. 🙄
My dad was pretty good growing up. He gave me a car while I was in college to get from classes to work. I was responsible for all repairs, maintenance, and insurance. The rest of my money went to school books and classes. The other condition was that I pay him for the full value of the car once I graduated and made a little more money. I paid him every penny for the car and I'm grateful every day for him making that deal with me, we lived kind of far (no public transport system) so I needed a car to get a job to pay for said car. I still worked for it but he was basically acting as a bank that gave me a "loan" for the car.
My boyfriend's parents are looking at getting him a car on the condition that he has a job to be able to pay for petrol. He also has to help out with his younger sisters if his parents get him one. Honestly, it seems reasonable to me to say that if I give you something, you work to maintain it.
@@Doktor47 "Okay you broken record im putting the lotion on the skin. Hey to tell you the truth brother, between you and me, that thing with the dog is comin' off a little fruit-y. I mean that's just me talkin'. Hey, where's my supplies? " 😂 😂 😂
Dr Phill: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tDgS6qLsVM4.html I actually heard this song once on the PA of a very nice Mediterranean/Middle Eastern restaurant.
JWelsh07 Right?! I was just thinking that so many people don’t seem to understand how anxious some kids can get around food, for many different reasons. There was definitely more to the sauce story than they were letting on.
Many or maybe even most autistic kids, and many autistic adults, are literally incapable of doing that, especially in a fast-paced or overwhelming environment. Same with certain presentations of ADHD. You know you're supposed to say something but you can't get it out. Like Jesus Christ, why does everyone need this girl to be at fault so badly
emachine310 Pretty much since most of our politicians and businesspeople are entitled rich kids. The zip code you’re born in is the biggest factor in your success in life.
Exactly my point, they don't know shit about the real world, but their silver spoon will get them access to executive corporate positions, and they'll continue to ruin the world
Yeah, this segment and so many other segments related to this school, can easily be summed up as "Rich Twits on Parade." Though from the looks of things, Lori Loughlin would have been better off if she had spent the same amount of money to buy herself a better kid, rather than try to get her vapid twit into USC.
When I worked college orientation, one mom asked me if she could have a copy of her daughter's dorm key so she could "wait for her daughter while she was in class." 🙄 I was also an RA, and I had to do a wellness check on one of my residents because he hadn't contacted his parents in a few days. The parent called me directly (no idea how they got my number). Turns out that the dude was avoiding his parents because he fucked up. 🤣 It was insane how often parents would step in to try to solve their kids' problems, instead of letting them figure it out for themselves.
SuperTonic64 That's sad and pathetic. I also think part of the problem is some of these parents make their children their whole lives, to the detriment of everything else. So when it's time for these kids to leave the nest, mom and dad can't let go, because they don't have anything else.
Bellebrla helicopter parenting in a nutshell. Of course then you have parents on the opposite end of the spectrum who do something as equals bad. It’s the same as helicopter parenting but once the child is and adult and goes of on their own they have no clue how to do things or functions as an adult in society because they have always had everything do for them so they never had to learn or develop the skills.
Wow. When I was dropped off at college, my mom basically told me to tuck and roll. 😆 Seriously though, when I was graduating, I told the office that I didn't want to walk. The gown was ~$100, and I was only going to wear it once, and it was miserably hot. I didn't want to sit there for hours, when I could just come by the next day and pick up. They said, "Sorry, we can't let you skip out on walking. You have to." When I asked why, they said because in the past, they let students skip buying the gown, and then they change their mind a day before graduation, and the office apparently got inundated with phone calls from angry parents. 🙄 I swore I wasn't gonna change my mind, but they didn't care. "You might... and we just can't take that chance." Geez. I told them it's not my fault that 22 year old adults still act 5, and can't take responsibility for their decisions. Ugh. I told them their policy was moronic. I ended up walking, just bc I was pissed that I was forced to buy the gown- and I didn't want to spend ~$100 just to hang it in my closet. People were passing out at our graduation, that's how hot it was. 🥵 Heavens.
People have phobias and autism can make kids picky about food. You don't know the situation. But people often need counseling to overcome and cope rather than to have obstacles removed all their lives.
@@kingjayapala I don't know? I have autism. My parents helped me cope with ceryain things I may encounter. I thrived. Plus this story...was not about a child on the spectrum I am guessing. So please don't assume you know anything about me.
kingjayapala I am autistic, and used to be a bit of a picky eater as a kid. Now that I’m older I’m willing to be more open-minded with what I eat. I don’t know if that’s the case with this girl, though the fact that her parents enabled her issues with sauce certainly didn’t help... Speaking as someone who enjoys a good pasta.
@@kingjayapala True, there is some kind of background story that is missing here. I hate it if media takes something out of context, and i expected more from trevor than just making fun of this girl. Saucephobia is pretty random, but maybe she saw her pet get sauced by a mowing machine and has backflashes every time or something. I know it sounds funny but im serious, shit like this happens
It's because they're in the same house. If little Billy gets up to get a ding dong while talking to Gam Gam, and hears her voice coming from the den, he's gonna investigate. That's not the time to tell your son Me Maw is doing the Jitterbug in heaven, so you gotta be prepared.
'Snowplow Parenting' is what creates codependency in adults that can never do anything for themselves. These kids often have little to no life skills and can never try to do anything by themselves because the parents think they are maids to 28 year olds. I think my mum is either a snowplow parent or a narcissist, maybe both. She never let me pack my own bag to go to my dad's at 14 or even 16, probably because she 'doesn't want me wearing wrinkly clothes' even though I don't care. She'll block the door in the morning at teenage years because I won't put on my coat when it's 51 degrees outside (like bruh you ain't the one feeling the weather I am let me have some independence). She doesn't want me learning how to take public transport because "it's a bit dirty" and "she wants me there with her". She euphemises my younger brother's failing grades by just saying "It's ok I'll make sure you don't fail". That my friends is what creates people with no life skills. People with no back bone. People who can't accept what life may bring. People who want the Earth to be responsible for them. That is irresponsible parenting and probably child neglect/emotional abuse to some degree. It's not healthy. These parents shield their kids from everything and do everything they can to keep their kids dependent on them because they are that controlling.
I disagree to be honest. I agree that we develop in harsher times. But I think nurture is a way more important factor in development, and especially on long term scale. Less kids will drop out of college this way. And once you've got your paper, working is easy. Now, waking up at 6 AM isn't so hard anymore, as you get paid 100 dollars a day.
I disagree to be honest. I agree that we develop in harsher times. But I think nurture is a way more important factor in development, and especially on long term scale. Less kids will drop out of college this way. And once you've got your paper, working is easy. Now, waking up at 5 in the morning isn't so hard anymore, as you get paid 100 dollars a day.
@@skeletonrowdie1768 If you are coddled up to your highest academical degree, without ever having had a conflict in their life solved by themselves, you are NOT a functioning adult.
Parents are suppose to prepare their children for the real world. My mom would check up on me to make sure I was okay but she never took over for me. She encouraged me to do my best but I was the only one responsible for doing my schoolwork and getting my own job. I though this would be normal for everyone.
This type of parenting comes from adults thinking their parents were unsupportive so they go over board the other way. Its like when kids have overly strict parents so they become super relaxed on rules.
Everybody thinks that everyone else was raised like they were and have the same opportunities and advantages and nothing could possibly be farther from the truth.
@@danishbutter1847 I think he'll release all of anger out in that one moment, and from that week of straight yelling at her. He's 24/7 nice guy, no more idiot sandwich just delightful sandwich, maybe actually find the lamb sauce
Ya, you know kind of like when Kirk Lazarus had the very controversial surgery that changed his skin color to black in order to portray the African-American Sgt. Lincoln Osiris.
My older sister has caused her son 25, his job yesterday. Dont know what happened but, she needs to mind her damn business. No parents have the right to jeopardize their kids job under no circumstances
I am curious what she did. I am also trying to see where a parent comes in with work unless it is like holiday internship or volunteer work and the kid is underage.
Different story but at my work we had a mom call off for her 19 year old daughter, who has a 10 month old baby. We found out the mom does everything and soon the girl quit cause "she didn't need it anyway."
Bryn Perry made the mistake of giving my mom my work number for emergancies...turns out not getting a hold of me after 1 missed call qualified as an emergancy to her😔
My father, who was a cop, always said that if he ever got a call to come pick me up at the police station he would fix it so I'd have to stay there for a week or two. Instilled quite some fear in me, and he never got that call 😂
Actually this style of parenting should be considered as child abuse. How do those kids learn how to overcome the challenges of life and give their life purpose and meaning? Those poor children are condemned to a life in misery...
No it's bad but it's not child abuse....and this is something that rich people did to their kids for. Centuries it's nothing new....but it's still bad.
It's a matter of degree. Buying your kid's way into college? Not child abuse. Making sure they believe they are so reliant on you that you cannot function in the world? Physically stopping them from leaving the house (as adults) because they aren't wearing what their parent wants? Breaking kids down until they truly believe they are incapable of turning on the stove? (Real life example there.) That's abusive behavior.
If you have to call my bosses or call me wake me up to go to college my classes? You are not helping me as an individual developing in this world sorry! Some of these parents are doing way too much 🤷🏾♀️😂 stop over shielding and over protecting your children. It doesn’t help them! They grow up to be entitled and believers that life in general is just gonna abide to their foolishness
I had an Ex with that kind of parents. It was ridiculous. 3 grown children, one with 4 kids of her own. They played the kids bills, kept them out of jail when they messed up (my ex shoplifters a $5 magazine while he had $180 in his wallet and I had over $150k in the bank) Their folks always asked how I did everything. I told them that when I decided to move out at 16 and be an adult cause "I knew every damn thing" they held me to it and I learned really quick that I knew nothing so I had to learn to be an adult and have done well for myself. I left him in 2005. His folks are STILL taking care of all 3 of their kids and all the grandkids. Wonder what they intend to do once their folks pass away and they don't know how to take care of themselves. Smh*
I've been getting myself up since 5th grade. Kids should be given responsibilities they can handle themselves and by that age a kid can have an alarm clock and get themselves up and dressed.
LOL my mom almost ran over my foot dropping me off at middle school. She was the one pushing for me to stay on campus for 1 year. My dad had the hardest time. Strange, since I come from a single mom home. I think he saw every guy as a threat to beat up🤭
Instead of kicking the kids out, make them take the admission test over again? If they get admitted, good for them (and their parents spent money for nothing), if they don't, well then kick them out. Also, I sadly know adults with parents like that. Well, not quite like that, they do check over their shoulder all the time and do everything to make them success and make them feel special, but on the other hand, their kid has to tell them everything about what they do, who they're dating, where they sleep over, their grades, etc, etc... And it's a life of constant lies without freedom. Never do that to your kid.
In the U.S., admissions is not based on any one test; it's based on the totality of the application. So, there's no single fix that can be put in place for a situation like this. And ultimately, that student took away a seat from an honest applicant; giving the seat back seems sensible, especially since it could go to a transfer student.
@@desmofan1864 Rule 34 is quantum in nature and relies on observation. I'm sure that before this even hit the air the first mom/boss open was already in production.
"Whole country has been rocked..." Uh... no. I'm sure most of us did exactly what I did. Sigh, roll eyes, say "because of course they did." Then immediately move on with my life and not give it another thought.
That part really hit me, I instantly went to pornhub to fact check it, and sadly I didn't find any... Mind is blown dude, I mean, rule 34 of the internet?
A guy I was scheduled to interview--his mom was sitting with him in the lobby, she introduced herself before introducing him--THEN tried to follow us into my office for the interview.
Rich parents have "spontaneously" given universities "donations" right before their kids graduate High School since the at least the 60s. Ivy schools have more revenue than some countries
Ya I don’t know why everyone else is falling for this diversion. The wealthy elites didn’t like all the heat they were taking for their college admissions corruption so now they’ve made up this “snowplow parenting” narrative to distract from the greater issue, the corruption in our society that the wealthy do.
I think there's a line between parents reminding their kids at college about deadlines and the part about the girl who couldn't deal with sauce on her food. Going off the info provided on the story here, it sounds like there was something more going on, like an autism or sensory processing disorder. One doesn't just drop out of college because of the meal plan after all... but, if one physically can't ask for their food to be prepared a certain way (due to problems with talking to people etc.)... then that'd make it difficult, rightfully overwhelming, and also no one else's freaking business.However... the parents are still a little bit at fault here in my opinion, (some colleges are as well, for not making accessibility/disability info as apparent). The parents should have recognized the abnormality, and instead of just catering to it... looked into it (and any other abnormalities) to see if something was diagnosably wrong, and tried to get help.Besides that, college isn't for everyone. Regardless of the reasons, if she chose not to pursue it, that's her own damn business.Lastly... yes, there is a big screwed up world out there, but some people have problems with what can seem like the most insignificant things (like sauce), and they can't turn that problem off like a switch.
@@omn2718not true. Otherwise their wouldn't be John Oliver, Jordan Kepler ( which is no more ) , Hasan Minaj started on the daily show and got his own show, Michelle Wolf got or had her own show.
Any student kicked out because of their parents' bribery will be just fine, Daddy has lots of backup bribes to spread around. And if I ever got a call from my employee's MOTHER? He's fired, period.
I can clearly remember the first time that happened to me as a supervisor. My response was "Unless there's a medical reason they're unable to speak, I'll need to hear from him personally."
David Kempton Please dont fire the employee based on their parents behaviour, you can’t choose your parents. My hubby’s mom has called schools and employers without his knowledge. He nearly got kicked out of college because she was threatening to sue the school. She has also called employers because she didn’t believe that he worked there. He has even lied about where he was working to prevent her from calling.
Christ, if my MOM called my company to complain I would quit the job myself out of pure embarrassment. How the fuck am I going to work and face my co-workers after that.
My parents called to wake me up and reminded me of deadlines, and I'm sitting here ashamed. Then I hear the parents calling the kids' BOSSES?! That's absolutely insane.
Military Vet here....the stories of PARENTS calling in for SOLDIERS is amazing. Basic training to active duty. GREAT idea for our country's protection.
My husband's a vet too and he told me about this. But on the flip side commanding officers in the national guard would call moms if "Billy" wasn't reporting in when he was supposed to. It's all crazy out there
I had a few calls to my command cause I hadn't called home in a while. Like a month or 2. Then another month or 2. And after that j was required to call home. Lol yes, I was ordered to call home, or at least tell them straight up I wasn't. Just give them a time or something. A calendar date. Lol
I was truly shocked to find out it was illegal! I always told my boys "you have to study and work hard because we're not millionaires to get you into college without taking tests" I always thought rich kids just paid for their diplomas😅
My guess is that sauce girl has a sensory processing disorder, maybe some other issues as well, and it wasn't just the sauce that was hard for her at college. Like, remember the lady who sued McDonalds because her coffee was too hot and got laughed at by everyone, but it turned out she had severe burns? My instincts say this is a similar story.
"Some day a kid would be standing around and his knee would fall and the parent would sue the school.The schools will say No more standing around " - George Carlin .
Certain employees of the school accepted the money (the coaches, test administrators, etc.). Those people should and are being held accountable. The rest of the college was typically not involved.
No different than DACA recipients getting into the country on behalf of their parents. Can't wait for the hypocrisy of the left on this one on why they should be allowed to stay through a side door ( aka southern border) while those who have applied to the US and have been waiting years for their visas are still kept waiting.... Its not like these students or DACA recipients will turn in their parents. So why prosecute the parents who cheated the systems in the college scandal and not prosecute the parents. You know who they are... Just have to look whose a DACA recipient.
@@joyphillips1821 I'll bite. One, usually DACA recipients have never known their home country, so going back is akin to sending you to a country you've never lived in and saying you can't come back. For these kids, and I agree it still does suck for them, but they can reapply for the college or go to a different school, plus they can choose not to go to any school. Which brings up the second bit which is most of these kids are incredibly rich, so they got options. You're really making an apples to oranges comparison. Yea there are some similarities, but if you put yourself into either situation you'd quickly realize its not at all the same thing.
@@joyphillips1821 just because you can't see the difference does not mean it isn't there. Refer to Nick Arnold's comment for an explanation. Quit regurgitating political rhetoric, it doesn't make you look any better.
My mom called my boss when i was in the hospital for emergency surgery. As a previous boss i would have no problem with that but i had people parents call about crazy crap like over or under scheduling their adult kid
Once my dean asked me to bring my Dad as I have done extremely stupid during school. My dad who is a famous lawyer now came to the college and told to dean,"From 9 to 5 my son will spend in the school that's more than he spends during in home, it is not us who are incapable it's your duty as we trust you and what he did is a very small thing compared to the things I have done, he isn't doing any wrong he is growing up with experimenting." And now I have a PhD and gave a lecture in my old school. All you need is a supporting parents A teacher to Guide And a will to work. You achieve wonders
I genuinely feel sorry for those kids. Imagine you get accepted and it turns out it's just because your parents paid a shit ton of money and not because of your actual skills and grades.
I don’t feel bad for the kids. You do poorly in school and barely apply yourself, then miraculously get into an Ivy League school. Yeah, they knew what’s up. At least now they are getting a taste of how the real world is. It will do them good.
To play devils advocate (sorta not really). It’s very much possible to get into a top ranked school without stellar grades if you can somehow make a compelling argument...now this happens very rarely but my old high school teammate got into Georgetown because he somehow managed to convince admissions that it was his dream to go there(it really was his dream)
The thing that bothers me the most is not the bribery because I have known that was a thing forever. The false pretenses pisses me off so much. I had to work hard my entire life in both school and sports to get in to a good school. I started playing sports at 5 with full knowledge that it was to help me get to college because we couldn't afford it. I sacrificed a social life and relationships and put my self under so much stress and instead of just using their money to get ahead, they also had to fake the hard work I and other students athletes earned. No f-ing way.
MaxXx SH Ya and Trevor just lumps all of us who grew up in poor families in with the corrupt rich kids who didn’t even work for anything. It’s bullshit and a convenient distraction for the corrupt wealthy elites.
I think it's a good thing that The Daily Show/Trevor and his team primarily make fun of THE PARENTS, because some other comedians (like Bill Maher) tend to make fun of "those snowflake millenials", which feels an aweful lot like good old victim blaming. I mean sure, adults are responsible for their own life, but no wonder you aren't doing well if your parents failed in every regard.
Yeah, how can someone blame kids, when parents are the one doing everything for them, basically not letting them to grow up! That's some messed up Neverland here!
My issue is when you don't fill out your own college application or take the SATs/ACTs, wouldn't you think something is strange? Like if your parents say everything is covered, meanwhile your friends are stressing about test scores, wouldn't you think something is off?
If you're 18 you're an adult. You can go to adult prison. With a hs diploma, you can go into the srmed services and learn to legally kill people. What's not to like about being an adult? Oh, that's right. Right from wrong. Love ye one another. Be a light, not the dark. Be aware the Bible was not written with the inky finger of God, but by sneaky men. Word!
Im autistic so honestly i relate to the no sauce thing I have sensory processing disorder so im sensitive to taste so i generally avoid sauce because otherwise it would make me gag i'm not sure if thats what was her problem but idk
"By the way, thanks for putting me in this awesome documentary about gifted teenagers." "Oh, no, no, no. This documentary is about snowplow kids." "Huh. Well I've never driven a snowplow, and I don't think either of my parents have either, so now I'm confused."
I have friends who HATE that show because it played out things almost identically to their real lives for laughs. It's less funny when you are the one losing your job.
1. “Raymond’s” writers obviously targeted your friends personally. That’s bullshit, man! Demand an apology! 2. “. . . losing your job.” I have no damned idea what you’re talking about. 3. GROW UP. 4. Go away.
Love the little details in the last skit 😂 If you look closely, mommy puts her hands over the kid’s eyes so he doesn’t see daddy punch the mean man behind the cammera.
When I was at bachelor's hostel I was asked by a parent to look after their kid infront of him who by the way was engineering graduate (22 year old) 😂 And when I told that lady , he's a 22 year old engineer n can certainly look after himself . She glared at me n said it's his first time away from them n I wouldn't understand 😂
I had a male friend like that. Like, his parents would ask me to "take care of him and look after him" when I'm a girl and younger than him by a few months. At that time, I suddenly felt like I was taking a man who would escort a little princess-esque girl out of town for the first time. It's just weird.
When I was 18, I was the Asst. Manager at a pizza place, I had an employee who was in his mid 20s and his mom would come every few days to complain about his hours or to complain that I was too mean. I was so happy when my boss told him to just not come back
This is one of the main reasons that these "coddled" children are so weak emotionally and mentally and can't stand up to any kind of adversity. Their muscle for pulling themselves up by their boot straps is non-existent because their parents didn't let them work those muscles...Hence drugs and alcohol is how many cope.
Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is a saying regarding someone trying to do something so impossible, that it's stupid, not that one should push through adversity, btw.
At work an employee was a no call no show for three days and her mom called to find out if she can still come in to work because she need a job. I told her no she can not come back and mom asked do I know anybody else hiring or could I help her find job at one of our other buildings. This employee was in her late 40's.
Bring back the draft. "I'm sorry, Major. Your Drill Instructor needs to go. All that yelling is inexcusable. Besides, my child gets flushed in the sun and never carries anything. And bone spurs....."
There's no way those kids did not know their parents helped them get in. You know what you're capable of and what you're qualified for. Of course they're going to say they didn't know, they don't want them being prosecuted.
I'm especially suspicious of the athletics thing. Like, I would be pretty confused if I got a scholarship for a sport I didn't play... I'm also pretty sure I signed a document on each of my applications that asserted that everything included was true. How much of the applications were the parents filling out?
Not really. Entitled people believe they should be given something because of who they are in life. Snowplow parents will do whatever it takes to make it happen regardless of their place in society.
More like these are mostly wealthy parents. Let’s not fall for their nice distraction away from the wealthy elites causing the corruption, not over-parenting.
Trevor, thank you so much for putting this whole discussion in perspective, about whether kids should pay the price of being kicked out of college for the sins of their parents. OF COURSE THEY SHOULD!!! The opportunity to attend college is not just about academics. As a graduate student, I learned more about how to work with difficult people than I learned in Statistics or even Behavioral Science. The highway to college is already uneven. Making the slope that much steeper for the ones at the bottom to climb, will not make the ones at the top better people, but rather the journey for the ones at the bottom, that more arduous. Parents paying for their actions, with no consequence for the one benefiting from the cheating is no way to learn a lesson.
The whole sauce thing was not worth the attention the media (including The Daily Show) gave it. It's quite possible that the student had some psychological/emotional problems and the parents were just trying to get her through life, hoping their assistance would help her eventually adapt and be functional. She might have OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) about the single issue of sauce on food, but be otherwise functional in other areas of her life. We just don't know, and it seems overly facile to assume that it was a case of over-indulgence by parents.
Yeah, I was thinking that, at a minimum, this would be overprotective parents who didn't prepare their daughter for adulthood and college, so of course she would have dropped out. I get why they made the joke, but I wish they would have made it entirely about the parents. It might also have been reported insufficiently. Maybe it was about common ingredients in sauce and she was allergic. It's not exactly something people would spend investigative journalism time on.
If it's something like OCD, there's treatment for that. If it's allergies, she *really* needs to be able to speak up for herself. No matter what the issue is, her parents went about it in a ridiculous manner, and there is no reasonable explanation for her dropping out of college over it. Her parents failed to prepare her for life.
It's because rich famous people were involved and jailed, thus, became national news. If that didn't happen, few would actually be talking about it. I see my coworkers do same for their children; can't say no and giving their teens everything they could ever want and the kids don't appreciate anything. It's hard for these parents to see too cause they think it's in the name of "love" that they do everything for their child but it's a really unhealthy form of child raising.
Yeah, as a college instructor, I see the end result of this kind of parenting so often that when Trevor asked what kind of parents would do these crazy things for their kids, I instantly thought, "the vast majority of them." This is definitely nothing new, but at least people are talking about it now, and that's the first step towards fixing it.
its human nature and news teams kinda seem like leaches I dont watch news on my own and am not surprised when I hear about shit weird local news places cover
Millenials had helicopter parents to swoop in and rescue them when they messed up. Gen Z apparently have snow plow parents now, which are like helicopter parents but rather than swooping in at the end they come in before their kids face a challenge and try to clear a path. I predict Gen Alpha is going to end up with parents that live their lives for them.
This pains me bc I’ve got a kid on the autism spectrum with sensory disorder. This whole college admissions scandal thing just set things back so much. We’ve worked so hard to get my kid to be ok with wet foods to a certain degree. (even drinking directly from a cup used to be difficult). Where’s the fine line of advocating for your kid when they can’t speak up for themselves, vs not taken seriously and seen as this ridiculous snow plowing that some parents are doing?!
Kids who are performing well should remain, the money gained should be invested in a scholarship program. Every rich kid entered could pay ten tuitions for kids with no money. Make lemonade!!
molly cruz if they were performing well enough for an elite college, then they wouldn't have needed to cheat and bribe (illegally) their way into said college
@@SGR05 I've been to the most elite college, and it's jive; a self-aggrandizing ordinary place, demanding nothing more than ordinary smarts. My point is that it's a fair trade to let the rich kids warm a seat until they fail something, and give ten poor kids the chance they wouldn't have had.
When I was in first grade in the 70's my Dad told me one day, "You better get good grades because Im not paying for your college" Thanks for the inspiration, dad!
My parents didn't know English so were pretty non existent in my life when it comes to grade school, college applications, succeeding through college and navigating the job market. So I had to grow up really fast and independent to sort that part out in my life. I admit, I do get jealous of my peers sometimes whenever they mention their parents paid for their college, gave them allowances, or pack their lunch for them during college/or for work while I had to take out loans, pay it all back, and cook for myself everyday to save money. But in the end, I guess I gained more life experience, resilience and people at work generally see me in a positive light because of that.
A lot of west Indian immigrants paid their kids college tuition, cash. Island folks HATE loans! My parents did but it’s crazy how I can’t afford to do it for my own kids unless they go to state schools, which is fine. With all the scholarships around, I just refuse to take out any loans or break my pockets
Yup, my parents actually put obstacles in my way because the didn’t graduate from high school and thought I didn’t need to go to college. Also, my father wanted me to be tough because life was hard. He would help me if I wanted to be a secretary though. I worked hard to go to college with my father telling me I was stupid all the way. We don’t speak often.
Mental Life Consultants please don’t! It’s a horrible story. My cousin who’s father put her through college, told me she he was always complaining about how his money was being spent when she did any activities that were not learning. Since I broke away, I don’t have to listen to that crap. I was an honor student and anytime someone wanted me to do better, I told them that when they paid for my education then they could have input, until then, they could shut it.😹
When I heard about parents calling to wake up their kids I laughed and laughed... Seriously if I asked my mom to do that she would have told me “that’s MY time to sleep. Didn’t grandma buy you an alarm clock?”
I know of adult children in graduate school who had these types of parents who wrote their papers for them, called the school when their child(ren) didn’t get their rotation of choice (in different healthcare specialties), called in sick & quit a job for their adult children, etc. It blows my mind.
We should look into the validity of the degrees from the people who bribed their way in previously. To ensure they are actually qualified for their degree.
@@TragoudistrosMPH I'd rather just have people who are qualified for the job. Plus they're going to pay you hush money (if you're lucky) or they'll pay for lawyers who will just say you're lieing then you get nothing. So no, I'd rather the unqualified people are weeded out and had to go back and get their degree correctly
@@Chris-rg6nm Tacoma Narrows and the new Boeing planes suggest we should care if they're engineers, too. The Experian breach tells us it matters when they become computer scientists. I don't even want to countenance the far-reaching consequences that could come from, say, one being on the SCOTUS mostly by force of his family's wealth rather than his fair-mindedness and legal expertise.
I can't even lie, I have aspergers and I've legit quit a full time (decently paying) job because of the florescent lighting (in combination with the crazily, headache inducing, overhead music they kept playing all day in our office). I asked about headphones so I could use a noise canceling static app that would be moderately better, but it wasn't allowed. I bought ear plugs that tone down the decibel level in the room and that didn't help. Purchased a tint coating for the lenses of my glasses to try and tone down the brightness of the overhead lights (also didn't work)...and yeah...I couldn't even continue socializing at the level I had been because I was extremely fatigued and exhausted by the overstimulation of that environment, and I had to quit. I had no other option at that point since I couldn't focus anymore to even do my job properly. So yeah...maybe she may be on the spectrum to a degree...but I still can't see how she didn't have any other options to continue avoiding wet textures. Idk...not much of an excuse for that really. Most people buy their own food in college, so there has to be some other reason why she left that the parents or kid just didn't want to admit to.
So, yes, but the whole point of the "spectrum" concept is that people with autistic disorders show a range of function similar to neurotypicals, particularly if they are educated to understand how their perceptions differ from other people's and how to cope with those differences. Teaching a child that the world will bend around their differences does them no favors.
Possibly, but that doesn't excuse her parents who utterly failed to prepare her for the sauce-loving, real, adult world. I work with autistic kids and let me tell you that a lot of our job is teaching coping skills with only certain accommodations given (such as allowing the kids to wear noise-cancelling headphones and giving them cool down time and extra time to complete assignments.) Anyone who doesn't give their kids responsibilities and a chance to fail is doing them a grave disservice. Some people call such parents "enablers" because they enable their adult children to develop poor habits, but I prefer to call them "disablers" because they keep their kids from being able to function independently. As someone who went to college with a lot of people who couldn't function as adults (and having had to struggle to get there myself to some degree) I know how utterly important it is to allow children to develop a sense of responsibility and self-reliance.
@@moarsaur Honestly life's ups and downs, trials and errors and such will be enough to mold people on the spectrum into a person who can sink or swim like any average Joe. In New Zealand, the word they call people with autism translates to something like "In their Own Time". It's a concept of not moving along with the crowd essentially. If you think about the many who grew up on the autistic spectrum before it was a big thing to get people 'labeled' as kids. Those people were generally seen as odd balls (and I can vouch for that, being that I am definitely odd - but idgaf), but they were also seen as the type who would eventually come into their own, and tbh, many did (hardships along the way all being that thing that allowed them to push forward in some cases). Nowadays, everyone for some reason thinks autism is a crime. Let the media or those antivaxing nutjobs be the voice of us and they'll have you believing all people on the spectrum are mentally retarded and need care all our lives when one of my uncles (also on the spectrum) is literally the richest in our fam because he dropped out of school and decided to begin his own business. Like, we're legit out here being whole, successful, oddball adults, getting married, having kids, paying taxes, trying not to sink in our student loan debt (basic, normal, neurotypical things). People just willfully act like we don't exist beyond the age of 18 lol.
I work at a college and I see this quite often. College is supposed to be a young adult's gateway into adulthood and independence. It's that time when they have to learn how to do things for themselves, solve their own problems, and accept the consequences of their own actions. Yet all too often, I'd see parents handling everything while their kids just stood back and did nothing. And when there was an issue or problem, it would be the parents calling us to get it fixed instead of their kids. Sometimes the kids actually would call, but when they didn't get their way for whatever reason, they'd have their parents call us. And as someone who lost his parents at an early age, I was kinda envious of them for having parents who could help them out of problematic situations because it was help that just wasn't available to me. But then I'd just feel bad for those kids because they have these domineering, controlling parents shielding them from the harsh reality of life, that things don't always go your way and that you don't always get what you want. It stunts their development, and I know that they'll probably end up emotionally imploding at the slightest bit of adversity they encounter, much like the student who dropped out of college because she didn't like sauce on her food. I mean, I don't like mayonnaise, but I wasn't about to drop out of school because I erroneously got a turkey sandwich with mayonnaise at the food court. I'd just go get another fucking sandwich that didn't have mayo on it. Crisis averted.
She probably intelligent enough to get on college but had some form of disorder but never got any help because of her parents who didn't want her to ever have to confront it.
those kids have had to know there was cheating involved or what their parents were capable of like the student should be responsible for filling out applications, writing essays, going in to take exams unless all that responsibilities were taken away they had to know something was up
I’ve always been the opposite of a “snowplow kid”, wonder what term that would be.. a feral child? lol. no one ever stood up for me, I was bullied and put-down by my brothers and parents, no one cared if I went to school or what future I’d have (those are the “lighter” things I’ve experienced). Holidays and other family-oriented things, even conversations, upsets me. The show “Shameless” makes me feel normal. I’m 25 now, I live alone with my fur-babies, unable to manage any healthy relationships due to incapacitating trust-issues.. I just view life as a savage joke, at least i can make light of it that way. 🙃🖤
I'm still surprised anyone in the world was surprised by this, except the weird sports team part lol. Like the Snowden leaks, I always assumed the exposed stuff was going on anyways minus the details lol.
