The Original Rock Dance is clearly just dancing to Funk records. The foundation is Black American social dances from Black American Culture. #hiphophistory #blackculture #hiphopculture #hiphopmusic
I like how herc's definition of discovering a record isn't buying a bunch of records and actually finding the ones with the best breaks, but it's him asking club DJs what they were playing. 😂
What did Herc actually create? If you want to say that, the IDEA of sampling a track and raping and breaking over the beat comes from Herc, then OK. But that's NOT creating raping or break dancing.
I was saying the same thing to myself when I heard him say it. He never thought that the DJ playing the song that he never heard discovered it first. SMDH
Herc- It was a Herc record because I discovered it. Me- How did you discover it? Herc- I went to a club and heard the music and asked the DJ what he was playing. 😂😂😂
I've asked them what dances have they created since the end of break dancing. No answer of course. I then presented the myriad of dances that FBAs created since as late as 2010. Krumping Turfing Jerkin' Cat Daddy Dougie Jookin Wop Gas Pedal Graham Dunham Ailey Bounce Dab Milly Rock Futsal Shuffle Gangsta Walking Renegade Tik Tok Whip Nae Nae And before all of that, we had the Cabagge Patch, the Running Man, Shackles, Crip Walk, Poplocking, etc. The good thing about that is, that there are so many of them, that they cannot keep up. And if they try to lie and claim that they created these dances, then the even more simple question would be: who came up with the names of these dances? And why they do not have Spanish origins?
@@EVERLASTING12000 FACTS! The term "Break" and "Rock" are both terms that had already been used by Black Americans aka Foundational Black Americans for decades before the 1970s. Why would Latinos name their "dances" terms previously used by another ethnicity.
They are also claiming the Hustle now, a guy called Willie Estrada. When I understand that we had a hand dancing Culture for years, and different styles from city to city. Jitterbug, to the Bop, Struttin. Disco dancing was a faster pace Hand dance style. Black communities were already doing the Hustle. They add Latin to everything and now its PR, when they took the Afro-Cuban music and style and Labeled it Salsa. This was too funny to watch. Peace, Love and SOUL✊
Chicago Stepping looks like the Hustle and all the 60+ LA Crips version of the Crip Walk looks like the hustle. I wonder why since they all partied to the same music.
"They are also claiming the Hustle now, a guy called Willie Estrada. " *sigh* Then what the f*ck is the LATIN HUSTLE? It doesn't make sense. 1.) If Latinos created "the Hustle", why would they give that dance and ENGLISH name and not Spanish, being that Spanish language is their first language and expressive of their culture? 2.) If you're a Latino and you created "The Hustle", why would you then go on to create the "Latin Hustle"? Would that not be redundant? FBAs created the Hustle. It'd be like us creating another dance and called it the Black American/FBA Hustle? This is their M.O. They watch/observe, then copy FBAs, and then add the Latin prefix qualifier, then years later come back and LIE that they created the original, while either disavowing or not disavowing the knockoff Latin version.
"Chicago Stepping looks like the Hustle and all the 60+ LA Crips version of the Crip Walk looks like the hustle. I wonder why since they all partied to the same music." ---@@lroyjetsonson5060 You know the Mexicans created a knockoff of the Crip Walk, called the Sur (for Surentos --- Southern United Raza) Walk. And now they're trying to claim that FBAs got it from them, and they got it from the Central American ancestors in the form of a "RAIN DANCE". I asked the fool, so the Mayans or whomever were spelling out rain in their dance moves? And if that were the case, how the Surentos are Sur-walking to FBA music of G-Funk, and not the music of their ancestors? Smh. LOL.
@@EVERLASTING12000 I believe it because Puerto Ricans is trying to claim that they created Southern BBQ. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
I remember The Rock, that dance had absolutely no connection to any early Hip-Hop dances that I can recall. Early forms of Popping was The Robot and The Wave. There's no connection whatsoever, imo. Also, that's NOT THE Rock Dance that I remember. I'm from Philly tho.
The Puerto Rican brother seems to be talking about Boogalo music that came out in the sixties, check out The Moon People - Happy Soul. Kool Herc admittedly got his whole dj set from John Brown. The way the Ricans got into it was the gangs started doing the Rock Dance in 76 it spread to Brooklyn and Queens by 77, that's the storie I heard from old school rockers. The dance my man is doing is not the Rock Dance. Seven Minutes of Funk came out in 1976 way after the beginning of the dance.
Black Sugar is a group formed in Lima Callo The illest section of all Peru.Iwould have to say like spanish harlem and very dangerous hood . Blk Sugar came out in 1971 redoing the hit What you see is got you get by The Dramatics out of Detriot.Blk Sugar this music we are doing is from the usa from Blk people its soul funk jazz But they where a peruvian Latin Rock group band even had a salsa joint.They gave the credit to Blk People. Look them up. But in Peru we do have a city of. Nothing but Blks its called. Chilon Rimac. They are called Afro Peruvian.
This whole thing is funnny ..Lol blacks always dance Ricans had a different style not for nothing he looks a little corney.. Looks a little sweet.B boys like to look hard core...I believe its all coping from each other Bx
AND TO SAY THAT IN NY THAT PR'S DID NOT DANCE TO BLK SOUL IN THE EARLY 70'S IS A SIN. LOOK UP OUTLAWS OF NY 70S AND YOU WILL THE THE BASEMNT JAMS SOUL MUSIC ALL TEENAGE PRS DANCING TO SOUL MUSIC AND SALSA SPEAKING BLK STREET SLANG
Them in their delusions of grandeur, I can't stand that man. Thank you for putting out the truth. We know because we grew up with our own culture and we know how this dance started. It wasn't no rock dance. If it wasn't Rock dance, it was a Rock dance that we started. We even made up the term rock. We were the first to even do that as a term with music, let alone just in verb. In popular culture.
I hope that you find the time to crush this topic on your channel. Please bring up clips from the 60's because he stuck himself at 1970. Between James Brown and Motown these Puerto Ricans are dillusional as hell😂.
Their need to feel relevant in the evolution of urban dance culture is astonishing. To say that rock gave birth to disco is laughable. "The Love I Lost" by Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes and the "Theme From Shaft" are considered amongst the first disco records to be recorded. Both songs were recorded by black Americans. Tell me how does latin culture fit in? Great breakdown💯
@juicepedraz941 you just contradict yourself. You actually said the mixed salsa moves with our dances and called it "rock". Your boy Papo is on record saying he was influences by what the brothers were doing down the block. Puerto ricans even used our music. Smh. Can't you guys be more original. 😂
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yeah, Colon bugggin and he got Papo out here lying like we didn't see his old interview when he was spitting the truth Herc already admitted that he saw "black" bboys going off to these breaks in 1970 via Dj John Brown
Where there isn't any Puerto Rican presence at all. He's literally dancing to our cultural grooves as if he constructed the moves. He is so stupid that he thought that nobody had clubs playing Soul and Funk music until the Puerto Ricans came in😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@@AlleKat that argument is even weak again how does people from NYC know what was going on in other major cities if they didn't leave NYC . Hell NYC is just big in population. I see why MC hammer made that this song about NYC call turn this mutha out to show that NYC was the only ones during this . Funny how the blacks all over was doing stuff similar to NYC
@@AlleKat it's funny how spike lee when he made that movie crookly it show how they was going up in the late 60s watching soul train and trust soul train was out since then an a lot of those artist and dancer was not from NYC and if I can recall the shows was from Chicago
@@AlleKat was blacks coming from all over performing at the Apollo huummmm let me guess these New Yorker will go their and steals from black that's was not from NYC and claim it as theirs this might explain why new Yorkers would get mad when the arsite was not from NYC can they was seen as copy cat. Did Steve wonder say New York is not what they have you to believe cause he found it's was a bunch of faker and pretender who was stealing from other artists who wasn't from nyc
@@AlleKat funny how James Brown is from Georgia yet all the so called pioneer stole from James Brown and others southern blacks and turn around and claim your created hip hop but yet give credit to Puerto Rican and Jamaican
@melanatedwarrior3530 Because people are going to want to fight Black Americans. I watched a Live where a NYC FBA showed a NYC Jamaican that Jamaican elders admitted that Toasting comes from America, and he got mad at us and wanted to fight. He didn't get mad at Count Machuki or U-Roy, though, just us.
In all in all Everything Thats Kool Comes from Blks The fasion The slang The dances The djaying I dont kno about The graf? But its Blk ny Street urban culture With different nationalities involved But its a Blk thing And The Nyr mainly along side with them Helped spead it World wide with the Break Dance Scene. End of story.
What’s he’s referring to is the Brooklyn Rock or Uprock or Burning … can’t necessarily say Puerto Ricans came up with it, but ALOT of them do it. Supposedly it derived from the gangs fights and a lot PRs was in gangs BUT there was definitely blacks doing it, possibly first. Got bored, wanted to dance with girls … others decided to keep at it.
