Peter hasn't mentioned Prigozhin once without mentioning he was a former caterer with complete disdain. I really think he has it out for caterers. If I was a caterer in Denver I'd watch my back.
Peter also says Putin is not corrupt. His made himself an authoritarian dictator for life and went from a KGB agent in the early 80s to one of the riches men in the world. Any political opposition end up dead or in prison.
@@Chris_KAyhonestly, would it surprise you if Prigozhin came back tomorrow and lead another coup with new demands? How can we be sure Prigozhin isn't the Michael Scott Paper Company of coups?
The best words to describe mood in Russian security forces and society are indifference and apathy to almost ANYTHING. People are living their own lives, so no one will really actively help neither Putin to stay in power or coup to beat him.
What seemed to be powerful nation (e.g. Russia, USA, China, France, etc) could actually be quite internally unstable and vulnerable. Jan 6th in the US, failed coup against Erdogan in Turkey, etc. The leader of a powerful nation, like Xi Jinping, Biden, Putin, Macron, etc are oftentime stand on shaky ground.
not a single well off eurocentric person has any remote understanding of whats going on anywhere outside of their own heads. your generation was systematically made r3t4rd3d with high abuse cold war propaganda and lots of cia purchased cocaine and government subsidized alcohol
@@RandomGuy-qg9xf Putin withdrew himself from public for a few days after all major problem situations even before the war and key decisions have been made by governors (covid case), ministers or someone else, they were main newsmakers. So he did it not for the first and not for the last time and for people in the country it was pretty obvious script.
Zeihan gives us an in depth analysis of the situation in Russia and Putin's and Prigozhin's methods that I have seen nowhere else. Brilliant. Immediately subscribed.
Yes, but Zeihan is also an elitist. You will often hear him make little insults about people. Look at what he just said in the video. He said someone wasn't an expert because they used to be a caterer. A person can have meager beginnings and become something big later on. But from the way Zeihan talks, I get the impression that unless you went to some ivy league college, you're not to be respected.
@@RickySpanish12344 Are you kidding me... This wasnt an insult, he just said thing as they were. He's not a seasoned military figure, he's an oligarch, Wagner Group exists since only 10 years and its personel is made up of criminals. They are mercenaries. Honestly, someone saying that the killing and raping of Ukranians isnt enough by their standards deserves to be insulted much more than what Peter mildly said. Prigozhin's an asshole, period. A real military officer spends his whole life in the military, from the moment they get into recruit camp to many decades later in the line of duty. This is NOT what he accomplished. Peter Zeihan knows way much more than you, unknown guy on the internet, i dont think you're in any valuable position to claim something like you did.
@@RickySpanish12344 he's so smug and smarmy, at :03 he makes that butthole face talking with his eyes closed. He pretends to be an authority on things that un-authoritable.
Big thanks to you, Peter. Enjoy being home with your parents. I just wanted to thank you because I’m starting to be able to spot the seriously faulty info in many commentators and media products. Before I just listened to it all feeling inadequate to vet the information because I didn’t have the geopolitical basics.
Putin is a "genocidal maniac", based on an invasion of a country on his border sliding into NATO control? What would the U.S: do if Mexico placed Chinese arms on our border with a Pro- Beijing regime in control in Mexico City? Zeihan is your friendly neighborhood 3-letter agency shill and NOTHING more.
If you like Peter, you may like Douglas MacGregor retired Army PhD Larry Johnson - CIA analyst Scott Ridder - USA global weapons inspector & Russian expert Ray McGovern- CIA analyst for 5 US Presidents
The mainstream media are just mouthpieces for their respective Governments. The only people who give accurate, unbiased, and independent info about this war are on this platform.
This has all the drama and intrigue of a 19th century war. We just need nicer uniforms, extravagant parties, a love triangle, and someone to write an amazing score and we've got ourselves a 3 hour epic. Maybe Kathryn Bigelow would be up for the project.
@@Vmurmur We do have other examples where it has worked. Turkey shot down a Russian figher in 2015 when it crossed the airspace from Syria and into Turkisk airspace. Rather than escalating things, Putin was forced to enter negotiations with Erdogan in order to save some face. The way you "negotiate" with Putin is to put pressure on him, you dont "accomodate" like the Germans have with their outdated Ostpolitik, which is why I'm glad to see the Germans chaning their approach to how they handle Putin's Russia. Wagner and Turkey have both shown how to handle Putin. Edit: I should add that Wagner engaged US-backed forces in Syria in 2018 and got pummeled into oblivion by the American air force and artillery. Putin didn't think the Americans would dare engage Wagner the way they did, but once they did he didn't really do anything about it either.
Had a similar thought, the media is clueless about why the only competent military leader would do this. But if you are a bit informed it makes perfect sense when you remember every competent military leader has been disappeared in Russia for a long time.
“Only Competent Military Leader” 😂😝 2 Time Convicted felon “cook”. Yep… that “western media” missed the bar again… No bud You missed bar🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I needed a good laugh. Thx!
@@maddeusdoggeus1 In Russia not everyone who is a convicted felon is what the West would call a criminal. Prighozhin certainly is not one of the "nice guys" Does anyone know what he was jailed for?
Prigozhin has to watch his back, not only from Putin, but from his former "brothers in arms". Wagner was semi criminal organization and there are certain rules in that space. One of them - never betray. There already have been vocal people who trusted him saying what Prigozhin did was basically indicating he will go till the end and jumping off at the last moment, leaving his people and those who were ready to switch sides alone, and I believe some of them are angry.
A criminal organization by whose decree ? NATO's of course and why? Because they kicked ass in Bakhmut. Jumping off at the last minute? They made a deal Lukashenko Prigohzin and Putin. WTF is wrong with you?
@@jimstephens7518 Offering Substance IS context NOT the other way around. He offered implication/conjecture and got his ass handed to him after hi last PITIFUL video. BTW.....he did that to himself. Hubris.
@@slydermartin6008 That's not what I was saying. I'm saying I'm not interested in pursuing the point with you because there was too much personal ego and drama in your initial response. I'll leave you to all the stuff you've got going in there.
Personally, I was not cheering for Prigozhin to take over. But I was hoping for a week or so of chaos to allow Ukraine to make a breakthrough, which could have ended the war.
@@alexsilent5603you have a point, the war only ends when Russia (Putin) gives up. A breakthrough, and attendant destruction of another bug chunk of Russian military power, might lead to that realization on the part of Russia that the war can't be won. Each chunk of land Ukraine takes back is far more expensive for Russia to conquer a second time, which is why Russia is already looking for a "keep what we stole" off ramp. But I think the war ends when enough Russians have died to make continued losses unpalatable to the people of Russia.
@@aaronbaker2186 Russian victory is a victory for Ukraine too, because it means denazification and restoration of democracy in Ukraine. Similarly Russian defeat is a defeat for Ukraine, because both countries will cease to exist. So I'm afraid that even realisation that this war can't be won is not a reason to stop fighting.
Thanks for representing us who grew up in Iowa so well, Peter! I’ve been watching your take on the world for a couple of years now, with no clue you were from my home state.
Putin challenging Pregozhin in a deathmatch at Thunder Dome needs to be scheduled carefully. You do not want it on the same day as Elon-Zuckerberg match at UFC.
I get the feeling that Prigozhin ain't Presidential material but he have just publicly unfriended Putin, fired the starting pistol for the Kremlin Hunger Games and sent an audition tape for King Maker
Do you know how to get promoted on a Klingon warship? You have to challenge your superior to fight and win. In Russia it works pretty much the same way, so the criteria for “presidential material” are a bit different than what decent people would expect.
People were rooting for Prigozhin only because a Russian civil war/coup would weaken the effort in Ukraine. Russia being a messed up infighting backwater was only a side benefit. Prigozhin also was saying how the war in Ukraine was not needed and a scam would almost certainly lead to Russia losing the war quickly via withdrawal.
I can only speak for myself, but in my observation, most people I saw were rooting for both sides to loose. It's kinda like Alien vs Predator, except here it's more like "Whoever looses, Ukraine wins"
@@dx-ek4vr "Ukraine wins" ??? Let's hope so! That does not account for whomever may win in Russia . Compared to Putin some of them are downright national radicals .... Yikes!
@@here_we_go_again2571 True, but whoever takes over from Putin would need to justify continuing the war immediately. That's a hard sell. The Russian people are sick of this war. They're just afraid to say anything with Putin listening.
I saw it mentioned in the Western press that when Prigozhin was leading the charge to Moscow his family - he has a wife, two daughters and a son - were rounded up and he was told if he wanted to see them again, turn around. Same with some of the other higher-ups in Wagner. THAT is why it all came to a screeching halt. And that sounds logical.
Would like to see a breakdown on the clans within Putin’s circle. At minimum the St Petersburg clan and the Moscow clan. Also, the strategic value of Belarus proximity to Kyiv and Russian motive to take. Thanks for your insight.
A small part of me actually wondered whether this wasn't some sort of elaborate ruse with Prigozhin moving to Belarus to regroup Russian forces there, provisions them properly this time (in contrast to the lack of gasoline & food last time) in order to relaunch a northern offensive targeting Kyiv.
@@quietus13 He only looks weak to westerners who were told he looks weak…. Internally he’s the same strong nationalist he’s always been ….only today he has fewer potential traitors to worry about than he did last week.
Too much could go wrong (and maybe has). Putin doesn't need "elaborate." Belarus is his puppet and nobody could stop him moving troops into that "country."
LEADERSHIP is the big plus of Prigozhin and his appearance in public. You do not need russian language skills who is the stronger leader for the soldiers and the public if you compare him with Shoigu or Putin or Gerassimov And the impact could have seen in the applause from the Rostov on Don population. Finally Prigozhin marched in 24 hours from field camp over russian border into Rostov on Don and 800 km further north to Moscow also being the first who captured generals and HQ of the russian army since Hitlers invasion. So quite an impressive performance, every single step from russian border over Rostov to Tusla was an unthinkable achievement a week ago and on top he had announced that march from the beginning, it was not a covered operation in the dark of the nights before. No, he said what he wanted to do and people smiled or laughed about but 24 hours he had pushed a battle group of experienced fighters far north across the country and forced all the oligarchs and Putin to leave moscow. Hitler might have had achieved that too, but no one else since. So quite impressive result for Prigozhin and showing us the russian weakness: no reserves at all between ukraine and moscow Last man fighting so to say.
No, Kadyrov and his Chechen boys were busy filming more war videos on tiktok and they arrived in Moscow on Sunday morning - after it was long over... they are such warriors.
I can't imagine that any of the Wagner rank and file have the slightest intention of standing around waiting for the Russian Army to process their induction. The professionals are figuring how and to where to migrate. (Georgia/Turkey) en route to Wagner chapters in Africa or Syria. The criminals are salivating over what can be stolen, abused and exploited once the disciplined types clear off.
I happen to have just read Lord of the Flies. When the two mostly incompetent voices of... stability I suppose you'd say finally turn on each other their entire situation disintegrates into madness and violence. I think you're right. Anyone who's left standing with two brain cells to rub together ought to get out, and as you point out, they even have a place to go. I mentioned on one of the last vids Peter published that if Prego has half a brain himself he'd already be on his way to Africa to become a warlord. Problem now might be... How are the people that he left behind who turn up going to feel about him now?
Prigoszhin (sl?) would be insane to go to Belarus thru Russia. He should hijack a plane to Turkey and either get to Belarus by way of Poland, assuming nobody arrests him, or head straight to Africa.
Oh to be a fly on the wall, watching that all play out. Is this something you have experience in? Or are you drawing on your general perception of the world? I mean, I think you are approaching the truth. It would also be nice to hear from people with relevant experience in how people behave in collapsing organisations. I have a feeling it's important somehow.
@@kevenpinder7025 It doesn't matter where he lives. Despite any agreement, the FSB/KGB will find him and he'll get a dose of polonium or Novichok, even if he avoids a violent assassination.
On Wagner troops being “absorbed” into the regular army…. I would love to see how that’s going to work out. I suspect there’s going to be a “night of long knives” event in which they’re largely rounded up and dealt with.
@@qewqeqeqwew3977 Yeah. That will stop the threat to putin. But at the same time units will have new persons in their ranks, which they cant really trust. Militaries become way less effective if you just randomly put people together, instead of the slowly grown units with social bonds etc. So either way: The efficency of wagner troops is gone. Whether they are murdered or spread out.
@@godmode8687 honestly, I don't think the soldiers would be that untrustworthy, they are just soldiers of fortune after all, there's no real ideology that was guiding Wagner Group besides simple greed.
I don't get the feeling anybody thought Prigozhin would make a better more pro-western President than Putin. It was merely the thought that Russia would inevitably collapse into splinters if he won and the war would end. His victory however was never possible unless the security services and army leadership, along with substantial portions of the civil bureaucracy joined him and almost nobody did. You saw videos of Prigozhin trying and failing to convert the officers he captured in Rostov, but none of them came out publicly supporting him. The whole march was a bald-faced attempt to pressure Putin into sacking Shoigu. When that failed, he was left with no out. The negotiated settlement papered over the fractures within the Russian system, but cannot heal them.
I agree! Prighozin could see that Russia was losing the battle and so engineered a get out clause for himself. I wonder how his loyal troops feel now?...given that they have to continue fighting, alongside the regular army, while their former boss is shacked up in a Belarussian mansion!!??
Prigozhin the psycho who believes the war should have never happened. The guy is a product of Putin. They came up with the catering business together in order to funnel money to a mercenary empire under the nose of the West and the Russian MOD to extract wealth from Africa. Putin is not all powerful. The MOD and military holds considerable power still in Russia. The two corrupt idiots at the top are part of the roughly 150 Russian elites. They came from the executive world. They're Oligarchs more than military men. Putin couldn't just remove them without a significant threat to his survival. Prigozhin could have been Putin's trump card where he needed them removed due to obvious and blatant ineptitude and corruption.
80% are monsters recruited from life sentences in Russian jail. Being paid and even crowd-worshipped to rape, steal, torture and kill is a lottery win.
And nobody knows if he's in a mansion or a different kind of big house. The criminal investigation wasn't dropped and there's rumors that Shoigu is on house arrest (but this wouldn't be the first time)
@@ZhovtoBlakytniy Prigozhin is a hard bitten criminal. He wouldn't have gone anywhere with anyone willingly, if he didn't know he'd be safe. The threat from Putin will always be there, but for now, the two sides have been separated.
But Peter, Didn't it strike you how easy it was for Prigozhin to go right up the M4? They just roll on in and I believe that they finally stopped about 125 miles outside of Moscow. Where were all of the Russian defenses?!
Exactly. What seemed to be powerful nation (e.g. Russia, or even USA and China) is actually quite vulnerable from internal uprising. Jan 6th in the US, failed coup against Erdogan in Turkey, etc. The leader of a powerful nation, like Xi Jinping, Joe Biden, Putin, Macron, etc are oftentime stand on shaky ground.
90% of the Russian Army is in Ukraine, leaving Russia itself devoid of troops. This is evidenced by the 'Free Russia' troops fighting for Ukraine being able to raid across the border and hold territory for extended periods. Police units are not going to fight Wagner, they'll get slaughtered. So no it wasn't a surprise
You generally don't waste resources deploying armies to defend roads like that in the off chance something like this were to happen. There simply wasn't much between Rostov and Moscow, even the defence of Moscow was fairly adhoc and involved pulling whatever RosGuardia was in the area to the capital and using construction equipment to dig up roads as well as dump trucks and buses to block roads.
Another thing that helped Wagner as a whole, was that they have there own logistical chain thats separate from the russian military. That honestly is the most valuable thing they have.
Wagner acted with support from the Main Department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (that's how it's called in Russian) and GRU (military intelligence) in particular. They provided intelligence and uninterrupted movements for Wargner group.
"Feign weakness when you are strong" and "confuse the enemy with troop movements" --ST ... who will fall for the bait? Cue up Admiral Akbar "Its a trap!"
@@dennisestradda9746 We were waiting for him to realize he stepped on his dick. Amazing how easy it is to see through fake news once one breaks their spell. It's a nice distraction from the Biden crime family, don't you think?
Communism doesn't work; it's failed EVERY SINGLE TIME IT'S BEEN TRIED at the cost of hundreds of millions of deaths. The ideology needs to be swept into the dustbin of history.
That convoy met almost no resistance from the army, the only fight was from some of the air force and Wagner air defenses took care of that, Russia lost more aircraft that day than any day since WW2, it was a turkey shoot. There was no one to stop Wagner, the leadership had already fled Moscow. Prigozhin was offered a deal, the word among Russians is Shoigu and General Gerasimov will remain in their positions as figureheads temporarily so the Kremlin can save face but within months will be gone and replaced by Prigozhin allies and when Putin does pass Prigozhin will either takeover or choose who does. He still controls Wagner both inside and outside Russia where he has another 25k troops and is making a fortune in Africa. One retired US Military Intel Officer put it like this, "this is a successful coup, but on an installment plan". For those who doubt it, who would walk away like he did on the doorstep of Moscow with no opposition hardly knowing your life would be in danger, answer is no one would unless they were offered a great deal and some way to enforce it.
I for one was hugely entertained by the almost coup. Watching Putin run from Moscow like a coward was the highlight of the weekend. Its the beginning of the end for him now. I can see the various factions starting to manouver for a post Putin world now. I just wonder who's going to be the one to stick the knife in first.
immediate question, the original deal before Wagner revolted was that Wagner was to sign deal to become under Defense Ministry and in fact Russian norms and rules called for his head as soon as he refused to sign. It's not new like the media is claiming. But the group under Defense Ministry does interject some new stuff.
Though undoubtedly the "column" halted before it met any meaningful ground resistance, it did come under air attack. This lead to the single highest losses for the Russian assets of the war. Not only that, what was shot down weren't meer combat planes but their high-tech assets. This amounted to the downing of one of our AWAC planes with 10 highly trained operators on board including officers. First, I can't believe that the RF will ever forgive that regardless of what the political leadership does or says. Second, those were irreplaceable assets and personnel that won't be available in Ukraine or to later defend Russia during the next uprising.
Always baffles me how many details this guy knows. Who else of the Westerners even remembers Kasianov? It was such a long time ago, but indeed he was a key person in a lot of things back in the day.
The problem with most people today is that they cant be bothered remembering what happened last week let alone what happened 5, 10 or 30 years ago. Even worse are the ones who only remember what they would like to think happened and rely on the fact that everyone else will just assume they are correct. This man has a passion for detail and history. Not saying everything he says is 100% accurate on everything but I’m sure he would be the first to admit he was wrong if he was.
Fun Fact: It was Russia who saved The Union during the American Civil War as they sent their Navy to San Francisco and New York when England and France were just about to enter the war on the side of the Confederates since London created the Confederates. France was already in Mexico making a spear head movement to resupply the Confederates and to open up a Pacific Theatre and create a port in California. England already amassed 11,000 troops stationed at their Northern Confederacies border now called Canada ready to open a Northern Theatre then to attack The Unions naval blockade. The Union would have been completely destroyed and annexed by those two great powers leaving the Confederates to exist as a puppet state of London. Tsar Alexander wrote a letter to Queen Victoria saying “If you enter in this war it will be a casus belli for all out war with the Russian Empire”. The stage was set for the 1st World War and Russia stopped it.
There is also a memorial in San Francisco for the hundreds of Russian sailors who came off their Russian Asiatic fleet ships to help the city put out a fire that threatened to lay waste to it during the US Civil.
It's pretty obvious to me that the FSB got to Prigozhin's family. Not just Prigozhin's but the families of all of Prigozhin's major lieutenants. (It is rumored). Prigozhin has a soft spot for his children, once writing children's stories for them. Heck, i believe even Lukashenko's family is under FSB 'guard'. Napoleon had an entire army guarding his loved ones, and they moved with that army. Putin's governance is like that of a Mafia state. If i were Putin, i'd be wary of all his major underlings with a military loyal to them. They may mount their own "March for Justice" once they've managed to secure their finances and ensured the safety of their family and loved ones. That includes Shoigu and Gerasimov. A few dozen bodyguards guarding someone at a secret location may be no match for the FSB and its resources, but the FSB is no match against actual military.
But why only now? He's been out of line for over a year. Calling the "grandfather" a moron. Calling out Shoigu weekly. Why didn't they just get rid of him then?
Times Radio reported that Putin threatened Prigozhin's family. So yeah. Hitler did the same thing near the end of WWII, taking his generals' families hostage to make them obey.
@@officialshivertrip calling Shoigu bad words is just underlings fighting among themselves. it doesnt threaten the king at the top. and it has the good effect that if something goes horribly wrong you can jump on the bandwagon of accusing that other guy.
Your family is your greatest strength. They are also your greatest weakness. Why target a man when you can target his much more vulnerable family? It's the basic motto of every internal security organization.
@@Pilvenuga Plus if the underlings are busy fighting amongst themselves, they are too busy to conspire against the king. In some places, that kind of infighting is intentional and encouraged.
I have no skin in this war I am not picking sides I am making an observation. That being said...In my opinion this was an intentional move by Wagner and Russia. There has been a counter offensive in the south coming for way too long. Russia has had close to 30k troops in Belarus for months. This business with Wagner getting shut down and re deployed to Belarus is about to strengthen Russian forces in the north not far from Kiev by 25k. This is the exact play Ukraine made before faking to the north and going south to great effect. Now Russia is doing the same thing. If those troops roll into Kiev, this war will be over. I hope this engagement is over soon. Too many lives lost.
You can be a competent leader and a caterer at the same time. Just look at the number of soldiers who followed him, the citizens cheering him, the Russian soldiers who mutinied to him.
He's not incompetent, but in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king I guess, so I think he appears far more capable than he it. He's also clearly brutal and criminally minded. But he definitely comes off as out of his depth as a military man, trying to fake it till he makes it as far as military leadership goes. He's basically Tony soprano with an army, and should not be considered anything approaching a Zhukov or Rokossovsky. Also as a "caterer", my feeling is that was probably more of a front, perhaps for money laundering or something, and shouldn't alter the fact he is a hardened career criminal who has done hard time.
I found myself wondering how Prigozhin went from food prep to PMC Wagner commander when he started agitating about Bakhmut a few months ago. I always naively assume that even in corrupt systems, that at least some measure of merit and competence are there, but I think you're right: in Russia, strong man/thuggery is _the_ currency they trade with and respect.
It was popcorn time on friday and saturday. Not cheering for anyone in Russia, I was more interested in the vacuum that occurred for the Ukrainians as an opportunity in Ukraine.
It feels to me Uncle Luka's role may have been underestimated. Could it be in his interest to have an independent strongman in his 'control', perhaps reconstitute something of Wagner or help Wagner hold onto it's foreign (criminal) enterprises. To hold off Putin's Belarusian aggression, to counter the democratic underground forces in Belarus, or just to shake up the environment in his advantage. Frankly, this seems above Uncle Luka's intellect and courage to do this, but it may be in his interest to keep Prigozhin from drinking bad tea in an effort to rebalance his own security. I'm also wondering whether foreign assets might try to play for Prigozhin, either to turn him or debrief him. If Wagner forces in Mali and other non-Russian states still exist, they may now no longer have Russian assistance and be vulnerable to western or other opposition. Could threats to his remaining business flip him? It's something covert forces might look at.
8:48 "the Donbas is the part of Ukraine that the Russians conquered back in 2014 and what that means among other things is that the Russians have never built defensive works there because they never thought they would have to defend" XD they are shooting at each other for 9 years and didn't built defensive works LOL
Captured, no he was welcomed, cheered when the Wagner soldiers were leaving, not because they were leaving but because of what they did. Confirmed by Konstantin living in exile from Rostov-on-Don
@@arisnotheles Interesting. Russians occupying Russian cities. And Russians freed them 🤣. I get your point. I wish more Russians would express their dissatisfaction with the Russian government, all of them. The special political operation. That's what I saw when asked about the war (Oops, the forbidden word) The Russian citizens don't get involved in politics 🤷
I think the convoy had a little bit more power than you're implying. They shot down 6 Helicopters and 1 airplane during their "journey". While ultimately they would lose to the MOD, the MOD didn't appear to have much of anything left in Russia proper to stop them. There is footage of them frantically using construction equipment to dig up roads, block them with trucks in a last ditch effort to slow the convoy down. The Police/FSB looked helpless as well, what's a machine gun going to do vs. a tank? I don't think it would have ultimately mattered, but Putin wouldn't have fled Moscow if he thought the convoy had no chance of making it there.
@@oldkbellguy5156 The Ukrainians have. Seven Russians 200s for each Ukrainian is a great ratio. Just ignore that fake poorly-photoshopped "document" that Russia likes to showcase on the internet.
basically VDV supportet by conscripts, its not looking good for russia, they need to mobilize more men for some time now, they need more trained soldiers and should have startet training 200-300k new men in Spring.
Like some have said, I think a caterer or chef potentially has skills and experience that translate well to military ops. Strong, tough leadership skills, accustomed to working in a pressure filled and chaotic environment, adept at managing many moving parts, adept at requisitioning various supplies from different and sometimes changing vendors, and more. A caterer would be able to slip into a military role very well, I think. Not to say Prigozhin is a perfect military commander, but his history as a caterer and criminal appears to have uniquely prepared him for this current role. History has shown this. Underestimate and dismiss him at one's own peril.
I think we all remember Steven Seagal as Chief Casey Ryback, culinary wizard and Navy SEAL, from Under Seige. We underestimate the kitchen help at our own peril.
Hilarious. He led a failed coup and is now in exile, in hiding, or both. The results speak for themselves. He's not a military strategist by any stretch of the imagination and all that carrot peeler is in the world saying otherwise won't change anything.
Whelp, it was interesting while it lasted. I wonder how long Pregozin will last in "exile"? Not long, I hope. Peter is right. This guy would have been much worse than Putin. Thank goodness this was just a ploy for Pregozin to "get the hell out of Dodge."
Thanks so much Peter for the depth of your assessments, very much appreciated! Was thoroughly typical that Prigozhin did not think sufficient steps enough ahead and ensure the safety of his family from a MAFIOSA style threat before he started marching, but perhaps the retirement package was all he was after. Just as well, he did not end up the new boss of the Russian Mafia wrapped around an oil field..... er, I meant the Kremlin. A total shame the Orcs are so well dug in, and hampering Ukraine's sovereign territory recovery process and perhaps the chaos was all over too quickly that the AFU were not able to capitalize on any weaknesses in front line while the Russian's were busy fighting amongst themselves. SLAVA UKRAINI!
Actually, listening to him talking about russia, you realize how little he knows. I don't blame him for coming with wrong theories, because you can't successfully speculate w/o actual information. But then you start thinking, that perhaps he is just as much of an expert in everything else he's talking about.
YOU GUYS GOT it wrong.......its a scam coup......Wagner is now moving to belarus 25000 strong and gonna attack Kyiv again..... this time w battel hardened troops..... This is a stall tactic and u guys r getting distracted THEY ARE MOVING WAGNER TO BELARUS TO ATTACK KYIV AGAIN !!!!! GUYS PLS WAKE UP !!! IT WAS A HEADFAKE !!!! Like PLS tell the Ukranians this.....they are movign 25,000 battle hardened wagner troops to the nroth to attack kyiv again.......... the south is barracaded and distracting the ukranians.
Peter, can you give your opinion about this situation from the perspective that this was just a huge orchestrated show? Was this intentional for putin, as in to purge all of non believers and traitors?
I like Peter, have all his books and learned a lot, but this attitude of anyone that does not agree with him is suddenly a Russian troll or other political figures who have different views about war are "bought and paid for buy the Russians" is just lame, its a pseudo McCarthyism and did easily reveal his political bent.
