The Russian Front in World War II | Dan Carlin and Lex Fridman 

That is a crazy statistic, insane numbers.

I was reading somewhere that Russia is still recovering its male population due to the numbers lost to the war and then to Stalin after. Something like 20% fewer men than women some 75 years later. I could be wrong about those numbers.

@@schramalam I read that for every Allied KIA, there were ~8 Axis (mostly Germans) killed, ~14 Japanese killed (sounds about right) and ~84 Russians, likely more thanks to “Stalinist statistics”…my god.

That statistic is almost unbelievable. Dear God

I believe it was males born in 1923 - it wasn’t just the war that killed them but also the poverty/ dysentery they grew up in prior to the war.

I really liked his ww1 podcast

Same its fucking unbelievable

Hands down the best!

Thanks for the heads up, I’m gonna check it out

Is it on youtube?

That’s one of those movies that is inarguably a masterpiece but I just can’t get myself to recommend it, it’s a nightmare of an experience much like the eastern front must have been

Hitler and Stalin were both on the same coin. When Hitler conquered France the war was essentially over. He could've sat back and forced Britain into an armistice. The support was there in Britain for THAT. Hitler went on the blitzkrieg and stirred up a lot of a hornets nest and the nazis were beaten back. Hitler was so crazy that he went after the Russians too and lost a lot of troops. Think of how close we were to having a different world than we do now. He was so close to having his own currency and the atomic bomb. Thank God evil did not prevail like that. Stalin was just as bad probably more.

@@joshblanchard3719 this is the dumbest shit i've heard so far and i was listening to both lex and dan carlin

@@MaximusDowns I think that's what the director was going for...it is a hard movie to get through....that sound when he went deaf drove me nuts

And it’s free on RU-vid

Excellent t idea, might use that some day

Quiet the picture you painted and I gotta say I like the idea

Calm down Rambo.

Sicko! This is the way 😂!

This is a sobering idea for the public. But I don’t think vets would want to ever go see a memorial like that. Most vets I know try to forget those parts of combat 😢 but man what a sight for the public to understand what war really is. Love the idea about the smell. My grandfather fought in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. He said the images weren’t the worse part, it was the smells.

Numerous German helmets were found in a river bed when the Russians burst a damn in Ukraine last year. A Ukranian came across a Nazi skeleton and helmet and weapon when digging his trench in eastern ukraine.. they’re still fighting over the same land in the exact same areas too in some places.

. Romanian was stuck between 2 powers. Poor country. Poorly equipped. And communists arnt people.

@@ik1408 fighting against russia with germany doesnt make one a nazi. Also Romania switched sides in 1944 and fought and killed germans.

@@ik1408 shouldn't have been standing there.

@@ik1408 they shouldve practiced their right to bare arms

@@goatman9998 that’s even worse. So they brutally carried out attacks against soviet citizens and then switched sides and betrayed their allies once they were losing? Romania were power hungry that’s why the joined the Nazis they wanted to gain land in the southern USSR. They also exported their own Jewish population and other ‘undesirables’ to be killed by the Nazis.

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To really nail it home, you was thirteen more times likely to die in the civil war than you was in the Vietnam conflict.

@Samuel Patton those fronts where playgrounds compared to the Eastern front. The Nazis send more troops, their best troops and their best commanders to the east. It was the Soviets that entered Berlin, not the Americans or the British. You been watching to many Hollywood movies if you think the fights in Africa where of pivotal importance. D day happen after the Soviets had all, but beaten the Nazis. I am Mexican. Only Americans believe they were of any significance to beating the Nazis. They beat the Japanese. That's it. American troops march over Japan before the Soviets could get there and fought more Japanese troops. That's USAs contribution to the war efforts. To attribute something else to them is dilusional.

@Samuel Patton Fair enough. But to argue that the U.S. did the world a great service by deciding to jump in with a majority of force after four years of every other major nation taking on the brunt of things would also be ridiculous to assert. The propaganda is obnoxious. 80% of the casualties on the European front were sustained on the Eastern Front alone. We came in what, 1943 through Sicily and Italy and France in 1944? Idiotic. Lend Lease was crucial to the success of the USSR but let's not discount the depth of the struggle the Russian people endured.

You are correct that it was the Soviets that stopped the Nazis. But you are incorrect about the second half of your statement. When Stalin *complained* to the western Allies about the slow opening of the Western Front at the Tehran Conference, FDR correctly pointed out they could try sooner, but they would have to cut off Lend and Lease and other supplies to the Soviets to make sure the Western Allies could gear up faster. Stalin agreed to the later timeline. Keep in mind, the U.S. and allies were also fighting in the Pacific theater and supplying China at the same time. As for the race to Berlin, there were multiple reasons why the Soviets ultimately got the "prize", although even up to March 7, 1945, Stalin was concerned about the quick pace of the Allied advances when Remagen Bridge was captured by U.S. Forces, even though Eisenhower had expressed his opinion Berlin was “no longer a particularly important objective”.

@@leonardwei3914 that's interesting to read. Still, That sounds to me like the diplomatic way to refuse him. It was for sure part of the British strategy to let the Soviets take the brunt of the damage and do the heavy lifting against Germany, since they had cracked the Germans secret codes and knew about Hitler's plan to attack the USSR early on and their plan was just to weather the storm until that happen. As for the Pacific front, that's neither here nor there. The Japanese army had the plan to invade the USSR before southeast Asia and expand the empire through land warfare, but Soviet troops on the eastern frontiers would regularly pummel the nippons in any of skirmishes that occurred before Japan 🇯🇵 entered the War so the army lost prestige and the Navy, that had keept its reputation put up the plan to invade instead Vitenam, The Philippines and the like. Also it wasn't like the USA opened the Pacific front. The Japanese attacked them so they were forcefully and reluctantly drag into The War. Had 🇯🇵 not attacked the 🇺🇸 who knows how long would have the 🇺🇸 waited to enter the war in earnest.

Sounds like a great strategy by America. And remind me again how many German women were raped by the Red Army when they went into Berlin?

We should have supported the germans and hit the soviets from our side of the world destory communists once and for all.

Most definitely.

dont sniff ya fingers while walking out of a bathroom

@@hottunes007 lol what

@@ik1408 they wanted the natural resources as did their allies. They didn't evade Russia just to wipe out Slavs

@@ik1408 I don't need a history lesson pal. I have read plenty of the books on the Eastern front. My point is that the Germans wanted the land and resources that the Slavs sat on. That may or may not have required the murder of those people. The number one objective was not the liquidation of the Slavs as it was with the Jews.

Not to mention you probably copied and pasted that from Wikipedia.

They're german back at home but suddenly become nazis when they're at the front. Seems like denial to me and that's exactly why so many people have a problem with it.

Watch the show the pacific his story is a main part

In USSR. It was not just Russia

@@AydarBMSTU Fixed that! My Bad!

Gotta balance out the vodka 😉

Mad respect to your grandpa

You do realize Lex comes from Russia I’m pretty sure he has his education on what the Russians did during WWII bud

@@davidpetruic9557 lol did u hear him u assume too much man

@@user-eu3tw7vp9k been watching him since he started his podcast as well as follow his seminars at MIT and have seen all his appearances on JRE

@@user-eu3tw7vp9k what’s your question then?

Yeah, but WWI was a static war.

Difference between the strategic and tactical plane.

Which county

soviet union dissolved in 1991. yoru timeline is wrong

@@phunkracyyour confidence and ignorance surprising. 1992 started war in Georgia. Meliton Kantaria was from that region where war started, so he became refugee

@@nikabenashvili6837 there was no soviet union in 1992. Your confidence in your ignorance is sadly not surprising

Yes. I think much of the show is based off of his accounts and books.

Eugene Sledge: With The Old Breed At Pelelui And Okinawa. It is a fantastic book and well worth a read.

@austin M Robert Leckie: Helmet For My Pillow. Another really interesting account of combat in the Pacific theatre.

Cause they get shot by their own side otherwise.

What else were they to do? Did you ever serve, let alone in an army under a regime like the nazis or soviets

Its pretty easy when Germans are literally hellbent on erasing your people, culture and statehood of your people. If im not mistaken by 1942, the nazis executed over 2 million soviet POWs.

Lest we forget

Because he was talking about the Russian front, not the entirety to the East of Germany. Does everything have to be about you?

@@d4n4nable but there was no Russian front maybe call it the eastern front but not the Russian front.

@@sulphur77777 it was still the Empire of Rossiyya in the 15th century lol they always called it ‘Russia’ just the soviets ruin everything kinda like all these comments sounding jaded af about lackkkkkkkk of representation in a SoViEt audible documentary or book. There’s better things to focus on come on xD cognitive dissonance aren’t even the words for it bruh..

how much racism is in this comment, it's terrible. In Russia, no one calls it the Russian front, we call it the eastern front or just the war, since we are not interested in the western front. You're disgusting.

Well, one more important thing, if race is so important to you, then the absolute majority of Soviet soldiers were Russians.

No quite so. Read Richard Overy’s _Why The Alies Won_ for more information.

Bit of an oversimplification for such a complex war, Soviets played a huge part but all the allies played a part

We were taught about Russians part in my American class. Maybe you didn't pay attention?

The brits played the biggest part in terms of Germany securing key territories. The Brit’s and the Russians were also fighting the nazis pretty much from when the war began. The us came in at the end of the war.

Americans did also fight Japan.

Explain. Are your parents very far apart in age?

@@joeneal7953 yes

Your all family was nazis and fascists

Nazism was the lesser of the two evils, if we consider Communism. No wonder the Western world, comprising Churchill, viewed Fascism as the antidote and good counterbalance to Communism. The product is human tragedy and suffering when these dictatorships clash, especially when most people on either side are not extremists.

No. They fight for Country. Socialism

Agreed. D Day was even peanuts compared to the War in the Pacific. My great grandfather fought in the Pacific and I wish the US would stop focusing so much time mentioning D Day. Hell I consider the Lend Lease the biggest contribution to the European theater

@@209Richsta The arrival of the Western allies in France just stopped the Red Army from taking more of Europe on their way through Germany. It was a slog for the Soviets, but by late 1943 - 1944, the stream roller was on its way into the remnants of the Reich with or without the Western allies.

@@BronzeBullBalls Yah the Western Front was opened to basically take some pressure off the Soviets and make Germany surrender quicker. After Stalingrad it was hopeless. Though imo after the failure to take Moscow was really the start of their failure. The gains Germany made in 42 weren't very significant in turning the tide of the war. Also lots of misinformation on the Eastern Front here in the West. Mainly because we only had information only from former German generals.

@@209Richsta I do not see Moscow as really being an issue either way. Napoleon took Moscow and still lost. If the Germans took Moscow, so what? The government and major party authorities would've already evacuated. I do not see Germany beating Russia in any scenario. The USSR lost 20+ million people in that war and still finished in Berlin with more armored, artillery, mechanized, motorized, infantry divisions than all the Western Allies combined. Germany would've been devastated with the losses that the USSR took just in the first few months of the invasion. Russia is the real European super power and Germany invading just let the red Genie out of the bottle. Germany was a paper tiger... they gave their best punch and then ran out of steam in a face of unending manpower, determination and realization on the other side that the Germans were the real enemy. The German army could never out manufacture the Soviets in any vehicles or replace losses like they could either. The Germans also shot themselves in the foot by treating the local population like shit. They might've been able to take advantage of the anti-Soviet sentiment in some regions, but instead the Belorussians, Russians, Ukrainians and others quickly realized that the Nazis were worst than the Communists. I also think Stalin is the smarter dictator in comparison to Hitler. Hitler was only a Corporal in the German army when Stalin was already running the world's largest authoritarian state.

@@BronzeBullBalls I agree. Germany would've had to win the war in like 6 weeks which wasn't gonna happen. What I meant was basically it was flawed from the start. Plus those 20M+ was more civilians than soldiers. The Nazis burned villages and something that doesn't get brought up is that Nazis raped lot of women too. Also the Blitzkrieg tactic that worked in Western Europe bit them in the ass in the Soviet Union. At first it was great, but the thing is after the planes bombed the targets, the tanks came in right after, and were followed up by the infintry foot soldiers on foot. Because of the size they divisions got further and further apart and left the flanks open. So if u were in the infintry Wehrmacht in Army Group Center u would've had to walk from Poland to Moscow lol. Also the Germans only had like 20 motorized Divisions in the Eastern Front out of the 150 Divisions

Beautifully put💪🏽🙏

Patriotism is no doubt used, as he said, to manipulate. The "Patriot Act" among many other instances in recent US history come to mind.

Great take, I would add to it that with patriotism you can be a pacifist also or believe in war only in self defense. When it comes to nationalism, then you start to think in geopolitical sense and then all is possible.

People conflate things to fit their narrative all the time even if their cognitive dissonance keeps them from living in a grounded and based reality they’d rather force us all to live their delusions about society an our culture as a whole in general

I believe you are just missusing nationalism and patriotism. Effectively both are nationalisms, just of different kinds- patriotism is civic nationalism, where you love your nation and culture and don't group yourself based on your ethnic group. German/ethnic nationalism is where you put your ethnic group above the civic nation. There is also third type of nationalism which is religious nationalism (Isis)

He was reflecting on how the narrative surrounding his grandfather has changed over time and asked Dan what perspective he thinks is correct. Dan said that he thinks his grandfather probably wasn’t fighting for his country or stop Germany but was primarily fighting for his life and the lives of those around him, and that this is a reality few people could consider. I don’t see how he didn’t answer Lex’s question.

you should see the video in which liberals in US sign petition to nuke russia...silly people and a disturbing video

What a load of bs.

Man you should be a history teacher

Molotov pact was necessary to buy more time for the ussr. It is well documented that both sides knew it wasn’t going to last but the ussr needed the time badly. Holodomor wasn’t caused by Russians, the famine was Soviet widespread. Calling it a genocide (although popular in the west especially now since the war) is really just a controversial theory and nothing more. Many russians also died in the famine, but only Ukraine gets an entire name to it. The Siberian camps were definitely not exclusive to one nationality either, as many russians were taken to the work camps to die in the gulag as well. Don’t forget Stalin wasn’t even russian.

It's interesting because had the Germans not been so brutal they probably could have found many allies in Ukraine and the Eastern Bloc countries at the outset of Barbarossa. Some of the people were glad to be rid of the Soviets but then learned the reality of the Nazis. That shows you how brutal the Soviets where that the initial Barbarossa invasion was people thinking they were free from the Communists.

​@Mark Zobov Sounds like alot of excuses. Your comment is Communist apologist rhetoric.

@@firingallcylinders2949 you’re trolling. They did find Allies in Ukraine. Bandera and his followers being a great example. Why do you think the presence of neonazis is so strong in western Ukraine today?

@@firingallcylinders2949 sounds like excuses from your side to keep fueling your delusional version of history.

Neither did Russia 😂

the Ukrainian Soviet Republic existed which was country by itself

He's also got his Hardcore History: Adendum shows and the Common Sense shows.

Lmaooo this ur complaints ??? Hilarious never been on no front line, as it’s going on yeah very hard to tell 20 years later stepping back with that experience makes for a different picture..

What? Not condescending in anyway! No one has perfect answers about what a person thinks about or fights for ,on the front line, 70 odd years later.

No? they just defeated one Evil and replaced it with another!

The youtube channel Like Stories of Old has a great video on this.

America didn't want any part in another European war. They were dragged into the war kicking and screaming by the Pearl Harbor attack

Bullshit!!!! Waffen ss soldiers were Handpicked volunteers The ss started drafting in 1944 when the end was near If you would have said those things about the Wehrmacht it would have been spot on but don't try to change facts!

You’re equating deaths to some moral/strategic victory. The fact was, the Russians were so Ill-prepared and terrible at war, they merely sacrificed its citizens/soldiers lives in lieu of an actual fighting/funded military. It was the utter incompetence of the USSR govt and military planners that led to the mass deaths and casualties.

You can already see that by looking how the Germans placed their troops Over 80 percent were in the east....

Come and see is a propaganda movie Terrible and ahistorical

And murdered thousands and thousands of returning soldiers/POWs. Their. Own. People. Who ruined their lives fighting for you.

I guess the same goes for the Wehrmacht. Does it also go for the soldiers of the Red Army when they raped and pillaged their way to Berlin? I'd rather do without patriotism from either side, then.

@@d4n4nable no, it isn’t the same for the Wehrmacht. They weren’t fighting for their country.

@@slambrew3849 How come?

Patriotism is a malignant instinct

I burn flags at my Thanksgiving dinner, its retard repellent.

Wehraboo in what way? You do realize he's of Russian origin

That’s how it works

Lmao. Without America’s millions of tons of steel, hundreds of thousands lend-lease vehicles, USSR would not have done shit on the Eastern front. Add in the fact that Stalin was only able to move his Siberian Veterans after the possibility of a Japanese Invasion from the south was eliminated. USSR would’ve crumbled without America.

@@strikeforce5331 America vs Hitler 1v1, Nazis crush us. No contest. We may have helped USSR, but had the Nazis not been preoccupied with the millions of deaths and cold of USSR, they would have crushed us. They almost did already. Now Nazis vs USSR on the other hand, there are plenty of historians who actually believe USSR would have beaten Nazis regardless of American intervention. And USSR engineered their own tanks and guns, according to Nazis they were the best in the world. In fact, if and when Nazis found Soviet rifles, they'd pick them up and use them. Their tanks matched the German Panzers too. So i dont know what you mean by needing our vehicles? Steel is probably correct and Hitler was dumbfounded by our manufacturing capabilities. That is definitely true. But 1v1, the Nazis whip us. And they almost whipped us with 5 million dead vs the Soviets at the same time. They would have chopped us up at full power.

@@strikeforce5331 can we just agree that we should have let BLM and Antifa fight the Nazis? Cause apparently our country is a no good racist piece of shit

Lmao. Super troll😂🤣

Both the US and the USSR were necessary to win the war. Let us not fall into an all too common mindset of tribalism.

@Blop RedBull dehydrates and water hydrates. The hells so funny?

You are weird literally everyone drinks water with caffeine

What’s so weird? 🙄