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The Ryan Firebee 

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The Firebee target drones built by Ryan Aeronautical Company have served the United States in literally more ways than one, and their unmatched potential forged a decades-long career in all three services of the military.
Able to reinvent itself over and over, the versatile and practical Firebee evolved into a multitude of models, each specialized in terrestrial, maritime, or high-altitude combat.
And even though it is one of the earliest jet-powered drones, it exceeded expectations beyond the turn of the millennium, and half a century later it’s still one of the most widely used target drones in history.
What makes these American target drones so special stems from their inception and design, which have stood the test of time and remain a triumphant feat of communication and execution, serving as a stalwart example of leadership…
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@donalddowning4108
@donalddowning4108 2 года назад
In 2003, at the beginning of the war in Iraq, BQM-34’s were launched over Baghdad to draw fire and pinpoint defensive positions in order take them out prior to risking pilot’s lives and/or more expensive missiles. They were launched by a 46 year old Navy DC-130A. Lotta old tech on that mission. I was a contractor in the squadron that flew the plane.
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 2 года назад
Thank you for this reply, really cool perspective.
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 года назад
@@aresjerry I concur. I always scroll through the comments on these Dark vids, hoping to see unique stories by those with experience or interactions with the subject of the video... just like this one! Pretty cool to hear they used a target done like that! Given the situation of was used for and the color, it brought me meaning to _"carrot before the stick"..._ lol (though I presume they weren't left orange, unfortunately, in order to better sell the deception) Thanks, Donald! 🍻
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 2 года назад
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE haha thanks for well thought out reply. Big love from Texas 💪
@davidmurphy8190
@davidmurphy8190 2 года назад
In 1991, 35 MQM-74C CHUKAR drones were used to garble Iraqi air defenses. These target drones were responsible for confusing the Iraqi air defenses to a high degree. CNN was yakking about the volume of AA fire but no strike missiles or aircraft were endangered over Baghdad. Yes, the Iraqis shot down most of the CHUKARs except for the last one which eventually ran out of fuel.
@andrewbrady3139
@andrewbrady3139 2 года назад
The pylons rusting in a field at Mugu. And last I heard they got that C-130 running again but it has so many hours on it they will not certify it. Yep, I’ve aligned a jato bottle or two. And I’ve been told a few stories about how many targets were ground launched in 03’. None of them I think I can repeat. And a bit of old history: in Vietnam they used to put missiles on 34’s because it was better to loose a target than a jet and pilot in very dangerous areas.
@honeylemon6213
@honeylemon6213 2 года назад
I'm 62, I remember reading about the firebee competitions with topgun pilots. The firebee won every time. Drones can perform maneuvers that would kill a human!
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 2 года назад
You have just learned the truth about u.f.os.......they're probes. At least that makes sense to me.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 2 года назад
Easy to believe that a drone could out-turn a manned fighter, but having the drone know how to use that capability is the problem. Highly-maneuverable drones carrying all-aspect sensors and missiles would be hard to beat for air superiority. I have to assume the military is working in that direction.
@vanguard9067
@vanguard9067 2 года назад
@@casper6014 Reading those articles as a five-year old in 1965 I am sure:-)
@bennyb.1742
@bennyb.1742 2 года назад
@@vanguard9067 He could be in his 60s, and read an article about the drones at some point in his life, and now remembers it. I remember reading Odessey and I'm not 2800 years old 🤷‍♂️
@CHEGTO
@CHEGTO 2 года назад
@@bennyb.1742 Nice 👋
@brianhumphries2700
@brianhumphries2700 2 года назад
My mother worked on the Firebee project, among other projects, when she worked for Ryan Aero. She worked for them for over 15+ years. I remember having a small firebee model she brought home to me. I would play with it all the time. Thanos for the video memory 😃
@SHINR__
@SHINR__ 2 года назад
Thanos what
@rikofebri627
@rikofebri627 2 года назад
@@SHINR__ the purple alien
@SHINR__
@SHINR__ 2 года назад
@@rikofebri627 yea I know.
@foxxy46213
@foxxy46213 2 года назад
Like that.. Thanos for the memory lol
@mintyfresh569
@mintyfresh569 2 года назад
Thanos sounds like a good replacement for thanks.
@Bakaat777
@Bakaat777 2 года назад
We moved to Eglin AFB in 1965 and dad was in "Targets" for a little while. He went to the "smart bomb" division later, but I'll always remember the "models", actually replicas made for those in the project, he brought home. One of them was a Firebee. We had it for at least 50 years, then the stand broke. Wish I still had it. :-( Dad's still kickin' at 93! :-)
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 2 года назад
I was an avionics tech at Tyndall AFB from 1976 to 1980. The Firebee was used to train F-106 interceptor pilots, as were the Lockheed T-33A trainer and various drone-modified fighter planes - QF-100, QF-102 and QF-4. The Firebees were recovered from the Gulf range by two methods - USAF drone recovery boats (called the "Airforce Navy") and by midair snatching by Sikorsky HH-3 Jolly Green Giant helos. The HH-3 was modified with a pole arraingement that would grab the drone, flown up behind the helo, the drone engine shut down and it was pulled aboard the helo. This insured an intact Firebee wasn't damaged by the seawater.
@PadreV
@PadreV 2 года назад
I have lived in Port St Joe all my life. Driving thru Tyndall AFB on a regular, I have seen these things on the repair dollies, and on the launch rack. Never had the chance to watch a launch, but I've always thought they were just damn cool.
@jordansmith3721
@jordansmith3721 2 года назад
The t33 is a two seater next to each other right?
@PadreV
@PadreV 2 года назад
@@jordansmith3721 Nah. Tandem - front/back. Without looking it up, they were the training version of the P80, I believe.
@jordansmith3721
@jordansmith3721 2 года назад
@@PadreV what was side by side that i might be thinking of t37?
@PadreV
@PadreV 2 года назад
I had to look it up, but yes - the T37 is a side by side Cessna jet trainer.
@aramirez8427
@aramirez8427 2 года назад
We still fly them at White Sands Missile range.
@awilson2385
@awilson2385 2 года назад
They were handy out there in 1980 when the 16R Vulcan trainees from Ft. Bliss came to White Sands for training.
@andrewbrady3139
@andrewbrady3139 2 года назад
Yep
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад
Just for a moment trying to think about the rapid change in aircraft technology here. In just 30 years, Ryan aeronautical went from making the Spirit of St Louis to building jet powered drones.
@Ushio01
@Ushio01 2 года назад
1903 - 1964 just 61 years from the Wright Flyer to the SR-71 first flight. We are just 3 years away from being as far from the first flight of the SR-71 as it was from the Wright Flyer. What's happened in manned aircraft in that time? hardly anything!
@danielmalone4446
@danielmalone4446 2 года назад
@@Ushio01 hardly anything that we know of...
@scottsmith4315
@scottsmith4315 2 года назад
@@Ushio01 shows just how amazing Kelley and his Skunkworks really was. Absolutely amazing.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
Well you have to consider that one some level, technology can advance fastest in its earliest days and a bit after. You start to run into peaks where you just can't make leaps and bounds anymore, barring some new critical breakthrough. Technologies plateau. This is normal.
@Ushio01
@Ushio01 2 года назад
@@danielmalone4446 If it flies it's filmed you can't exactly keep runways and take offs secret. Besides once it enters production tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of people know. It something is a one off it's either not an improvement or a failure.
@kookwater456
@kookwater456 2 года назад
The fact that that one test corrected itself after a full barrelroll when it’s rocket had detached, only to be downed by human confusion, is monumental!
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 2 года назад
....it found the POW camp at Son Tay and made a number of recon flights over it prior to the launch of Operation Ivory Coast..
@jock-of-ages73
@jock-of-ages73 2 года назад
That sounds like a great story for a video. I'd love to know more about it.
@ashtonhartley2662
@ashtonhartley2662 2 года назад
@@jock-of-ages73 Me too
@edwardd9702
@edwardd9702 2 года назад
"Teledyne Ryan's "Buffalo Hunter" reconnaissance drones were flown at treetop level over Son Tay prison seven times before the raid. Six of the flights malfunctioned or were shot down; the last banked too soon and returned with "perfect imagery" of the horizon beyond Son Tay."
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 2 года назад
@@jock-of-ages73 ...the entire story of 'Operation Gold Coast (the Son Tay Prison raid is told in Benjamin F. Schemmer's book "The Raid" and there are a number of vids on RU-vid about the raid itself....a great story!!!
@jock-of-ages73
@jock-of-ages73 2 года назад
@@mohammedcohen Thanks, is that the place they called The Hanoi Hilton? If so I've heard a little about it, but I'll definitely search out a video on the raid to rescue prisoners. Thanks 👍
@valeriemacleod9627
@valeriemacleod9627 2 года назад
There is an excellent video by a former Ryan employee who who was one of the heads of the program on YT. They had a very difficult time getting funding for the program to develop the Firebee for recon and elint work. It seems there was a lot of brass that didn’t want to have non-piloted aircraft. Now they train more drone pilots than regular ones.
@OnerousEthic
@OnerousEthic 2 года назад
Seems that the intellectual inadequacy of top management is a recurring theme with the US military. Sigh.
@tarmaque
@tarmaque 2 года назад
Nothing like a video about a highly successful bit of hardware. I love it when a plan comes together.
@charleslatora5750
@charleslatora5750 2 года назад
Ryan also built the first Global Hawk vehicles. If I'm a brag I was there when the first vehicle was presented to the government. and they built the first +- 600 AH-64 Apache Helicopter airframes
@ashemgold
@ashemgold 2 года назад
Firebee true story: My father was on the original crew for the USS Constellation in 1962. They stopped in Brazil to attempt to sell their military ground to air missiles. During the demonstration the Firebees were being used and not a single missile hit it's target. All Firebees escaped harm. As the Brazillian delegation were asked about the possible missile purchase they replied, "Those missiles are nice, but what our military needs are some of those red things up there", referring to the hard to hit Firebees. True story told to my dad, a member of the captain's flight crew.
@ryanevans604
@ryanevans604 2 года назад
Thats comment gold. Thanks g
@ddegn
@ddegn 2 года назад
Comments like this is what makes RU-vid so fun. Thanks for sharing your story!
@thewasatch208
@thewasatch208 2 года назад
I love this channel. Thank you for your work at bringing these stories to us. It's truly appreciated.
@canis2020
@canis2020 2 года назад
Much appreciate!
@thewasatch208
@thewasatch208 2 года назад
@@canis2020 you forget one d lol
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 2 года назад
Ryan Firebee as well as over a dozen other missiles and two fighter planes are on display at Point Mugu Missile Park, located along PCH in Ventura County. Definitely worth a stop to see historical Navy military rockets and drones.
@toddjones1403
@toddjones1403 2 года назад
Thank you veterans for all your interesting comments and your service!
@MarcNewitt
@MarcNewitt 2 года назад
Four Firebees hung from a DC-130 is a sight to behold!
@justinpohl8986
@justinpohl8986 2 года назад
Early stage Arsenal Bird, I'd assume?
@ODSoldier
@ODSoldier 2 года назад
The Firebee and prop-driven drones were used many times while developing and testing projects on White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico . I was involved with C-Band Radar Transponders installed on most vehicles fired and it was very interesting work (1966-8).
@starriderstudios
@starriderstudios 2 года назад
My favorite channel. The 50s and 60s were amazing time to be in aeronautics.
@todiathink8864
@todiathink8864 2 года назад
More speed than the technology would allow....... speed was EVERYTHING in the 50's.
@johntonge9818
@johntonge9818 2 года назад
When I was about 8 or 9 back in the fifties I had a toy missile set with various NASA and Air Force stuff. Included was a model Firebee. I never knew what that thing was so this video was enlightening. Thanks for activating a section of my brain that has not been used in many years!
@BrennerBay
@BrennerBay 2 года назад
I grew up in St.Thomas USVI. Sometime in the late 60’s I was walking along the waterfront,there was a down island cargo vessel, about a 40’ sailing boat,usually covered with fruit,chickens and fish..There hanging horizontally from the main mast boom was one of those drones. They had picked it floating around off the SE side of the island. They tried to declare it as salvage, but some guys came over from Puerto Rico and made them give it back.
@stevefreeland9255
@stevefreeland9255 2 года назад
Weren’t Fire Bees also used for reconnaissance over North Vietnam?
@markpaul8178
@markpaul8178 2 года назад
Yes they were.Steve,you have a good memory.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 2 года назад
Yep. Launched from a DC-130 model Hercules mothership...
@abes.4040
@abes.4040 2 года назад
they were used in Wild weasel missions too. it would be interesting to see a video of the combat capabilities of these drones.
@kdrapertrucker
@kdrapertrucker 2 года назад
And China.
@charlesbarilleaux2784
@charlesbarilleaux2784 2 года назад
My dad used to fly the CH-3s that would recover them.
@bradrock7731
@bradrock7731 2 года назад
Actor Reginald Denny , the 'Prince of Drones' got this idea started in the 30's. Much to the approval of the poor pilots who used to tow the targets. Nice footage!
@LL.Johnson
@LL.Johnson 2 года назад
I had to re-watch that slow roll recovery attempt a few times. Very impressive! Almost pulled it off.
@scootergeorge7089
@scootergeorge7089 2 года назад
The Firebee was used extensively by the Navy at NAS Pt Mugu, California using a P-2V Neptune as launch vehicle. This looks like the same aircraft. 5:52
@johnzeller9619
@johnzeller9619 2 года назад
Also the firebee being towed in the harbor was port hueneme. In the background is the surface warfare operations area.
@donalddowning4108
@donalddowning4108 2 года назад
They later used the DC-130A for launching. It could carry 4 at one time.
@ajwilson605
@ajwilson605 2 года назад
Back in late '79, just before WESTPAC deployment, the frigate I was on had to qualify our BPDSMS by live firing 2 Sea Sparrow missiles against drones at Pt. Mugu. Normal routine was to fire when in range and then when a hit was calculated by the range commander, turn off the BPDSMS CW radar, thus forcing the Sea Sparrow to go dumb, or ballistic. The drone pilots must have been sleeping or late on the switch because we splashed both of the drones targeting us. Big stink until relayed data showed we had killed the radar when ordered and the missiles hit the drones when ballistic. The drone pilots were supposed to turn away to avoid this happening.
@todiathink8864
@todiathink8864 2 года назад
There is nothing new under the sun- Solomon I was an avid reader of Popular Science and Popular Mechanics back in the 60"s when I was in High School. There were so many dreams that were deemed impossible. Now, we are seeing it all come to fruition.
@MaxCruise73
@MaxCruise73 2 года назад
A couple of Firebees are on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton Ohio.
@charleslatora5750
@charleslatora5750 2 года назад
come to San Diego. see our Aerospace museum.
@MaxCruise73
@MaxCruise73 2 года назад
@@charleslatora5750 While I have been to 17 aviation museums across the Nation, I have yet to visit the San Diego Air & Space Museum in Balboa Park. Some day!!
@valeriemacleod9627
@valeriemacleod9627 2 года назад
The Aerospace Museum in Balboa Park in San Diego has a large archive of Firebee related materials including many videos that are available on YT. Fun to watch them, especially the Ryan promotional ones demonstrating the Firebee’s capabilities.
@MaxCruise73
@MaxCruise73 2 года назад
@@valeriemacleod9627 I look forward to the day I can visit the museum. Aside from the Air Force Museum in Dayton OH, it seems like I have seen a Firebee on display elsewhere. After checking the exhibit list of The National Museum of Nuclear Science & History in Albuquerque NM, no Firebee on display. They do have an Atomic Cannon, which is quite impressive.
@floridagunrat1625
@floridagunrat1625 2 года назад
I believe there is a Firebee on display at the Air and n space collection at Cape Canaveral Space Force Base. It's been many years since I've been out there and I believe the only public access now is through the NASA tour bus system from John F. Kennedy Space Center.
@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 2 года назад
Seeing that Firebee loaded up with missiles made me think of a disposable attack drone. Load 4 Hellfires or something else on to a specially designed version of a Firebee, ferry it to near the target zone, have it blow away its targets and then let it lawn-dart into a fifth one and set off the on-board explosive payload inside of it. With the right mix of design and material, it could be relatively dirt-cheap to deploy, compared to what you can take out. I mean, it already looks like a flying thousand-pound bomb, why not 'actually' make it into one? =^x^=
@republic9299
@republic9299 2 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Model_147#Ryan_Model_147H Man you gotta check out when the Firebee actually went to war.
@flavortown3781
@flavortown3781 2 года назад
They essentially do this but even cheaper, lots of little tube launched SACLOS and even smarter drones
@danroffee4904
@danroffee4904 2 года назад
With all the video of V-1 buzz-bombs in this video, I would have thought there might have been a crediting for technology overlap/reuse. It was confusing to have talk of fire bee while looking at V-1
@natesofla8891
@natesofla8891 2 года назад
I'm glad someone else made a good and easy observation. I had made a comment before I noticed yours because I had not seen anyone mention this. As soon as I saw the pulse jet V1 I was waiting for the connection.
@pascalfust1035
@pascalfust1035 2 года назад
Absolutely. There's no reason (to me) why to lengthen the video with footages of another aircraft without mentioning it.
@metaglypto
@metaglypto 2 года назад
I remember while stationed at Ft. Bragg we could often see and hear the Vulcan cannons doing target practice at night. As I recall those drones were rather slow moving and were emitting a stream of sparks or pyro-technics. I don't think I saw tracers but once or twice. Seems like this would not have been the target drone they used, as this seems much faster than what I remember. Then again, we were a couple miles, at least, away from the range, and it was at night, so perspective could be totally wonkers as well.
@foxxy46213
@foxxy46213 2 года назад
Those sparks was probably the tracer's... The Vulcan type guns shoot that many it looks like a solid line at a distance due to how fast they fire
@sangomasmith
@sangomasmith 2 года назад
I've always loved the Firebee, ever since I read about the manned vs unmanned air-to-air combat exercises carried out with them in the 70s...
@dawnsparrow4477
@dawnsparrow4477 2 года назад
A wonderful video about earlier US technology capabilities attempted for producing drones..launched to skies by airplane ✈️ and fleets ships 🚢. Which started in Ryan firebe prototyping to QT A,QTB drones prototypes ..thanks dark skies channel for sharing this video
@republic9299
@republic9299 2 года назад
We need another video on the Ryan Model 147 Lightning Bug. I don't think too many people realize how important that aircraft is. It literally contributed directly to the success of US UAVs to this day and could argue that with updated avionics, engines, and equipment, it could outperform some drones of comparable value today.
@richardmassoth8237
@richardmassoth8237 2 года назад
Ryan Aeronautical in this video was the final company in a series of firms founded and owned by T.C. Ryan, a genuine early aviation pioneer. One of T.C. Ryan's earlier companies built the "Spirit of St. Louis" for the solo crossing of the Atlantic by Charles Lindbergh, not the same company as the builder of the Firebee. Early in the video, the narrator mentions "all three services of the military" at (0:10) and is also in the video's title, which was not completely true. The Firebee was developed for the US Army Air Forces, and was transferred to the U.S. Air Force upon separation of the Army and Air Force in September 1947, with concurrent interest and developments for the U.S. Navy. There are now six uniformed military services of the U.S. (and two non-military uniformed services), not three. The same company, Ryan Aeronautical, was acquired by Teledyne Corporation after NASA contracted Ryan Aerospace to build the landing digital doppler radar system for the Lunar Excursion Module of the Apollo Program. In 1999, Teledyne Ryan was acquired by Northrop-Grumman and the Ryan name no longer appears. There have been uses of the Firebee by both the Canadian Air Force and the Japanese Defense Force, which makes this target or drone aircraft have NATO involvement as well.
@arsehole8
@arsehole8 2 года назад
00:02........ThunderBirds, are Go!
@sfperalta
@sfperalta 2 года назад
I interned at NASA Dryden Flight Research Center (now Armstrong FRC) in the late 1970s in the Flight Systems Technical Laboratory. Part of that lab was the Remotely Piloted Research Vehicles (RPRV) Lab, whose main function was to test special remotely piloted test vehicles, like the 3/8th scale F-15 used for flat spin recovery testing, the Mini-Sniffer high altitude research vehicle and the Oblique Wing research vehicle (predecessor to the AD-1). They also used a Firebee II drone as a remotely piloted vehicle for testing B-52 launch and MARS (mid-air recovery system). I actually got to work on the electronics module for MARS on that project (my contribution was modest, interns are typically wire and solder monkeys). The B-52 would start the engine then release the drone from it's wing. I recall there was an F-104 chase plane visually monitoring the drone's flight and shooting video. A joke in the lab was that the drone was so fast (Mach 1.2?... I think) they would tease the chase plane pilot about being able to "keep up" with the drone. At the end of flight, the MARS recovery sequence was started from the B-52 (using "my" module), which would dump any residual fuel from the drone, lock the flight surfaces, point the nose down, and arm the recovery parachute, which would deploy at a set altitude. As the drone floated down, an Air Force helicopter (can't remember which model) would snag the parachute mid-air using some external device, and finally drop it off gently at the flight line apron just outside our lab. Fond memories and heady stuff for a 19-year-old college kid!
@timothywachowicz8308
@timothywachowicz8308 2 года назад
Wonderful informative video(s)! Always wondered about the details of the Firebee. Most importantly, Your REAL voice adds so much to the interest level drawing the listener in with the creator's own interest vs an A.I. generated voice! Going the extra mile with Your real personality is much appreciated adding an element of intrigue to an interesting topic!
@riconui5227
@riconui5227 2 года назад
My brother was an A & P mechanic with the Navy in the 60s, stationed at NAS North Island. His first job was repairing and refitting these drones after exercises often, it seems, after being fished out of the ocean. One of my best memories of that time was going on a tour of his shop and getting up close and hands on the drone, and an unguided tour of the P2- V launch a/c. I was already an airplane nerd by then, so this was quite a thrill. My brother later went an A-7 squadron at Miramar, thence to two tours on the Bonne Hom Richard, Yankee station off Viet Nam. But the drones were the most interesting.
@obsoleteprofessor2034
@obsoleteprofessor2034 2 года назад
In 1979, at Davis Monthan AFB, I worked at the 432 AGS working on the CH-3's with the MARS winch that would catch the drones in midair. When the unit was deactivated, some of the helicopters went to Kirtland AFB to support training while the others were mothballed in the Boneyard. Next door to us were the DC-130's. Several times I saw them loaded down with 4 drones, 2 on each side. One of these drones is on display down the street at the Pima Air Museum. The museum was barely a guard shack in those years. Parked on the side of the dead end road was a B-58 without the belly pod and at the entrance to the shack was an ejection pod propped up on the ground with a hand written sign identifying the item.
@whiteonggoy7009
@whiteonggoy7009 2 года назад
Imagine these designer's traveling foreward to see today's drones especially how you can buy from a store.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад
Apparently one of the programs heads is on yt. And store drones are toys....
@donovanteale6502
@donovanteale6502 2 года назад
One of your best videos, and I have watched a lot of your videos. Thank you for your work, entertained and educated a lot of peoples homie
@jaymccolm9603
@jaymccolm9603 2 года назад
Cost when they were first built: $125000 per unit. Same drone built today: $250 000 000. Lobbying is awesome.
@hedonistaesthetic828
@hedonistaesthetic828 2 года назад
So is inflation…
@RCFlyBoy314
@RCFlyBoy314 2 года назад
I have an old picture book on aircraft history from my childhood, the Firebees were in there! Excellent video, thank you!
@cjuice9039
@cjuice9039 2 года назад
I also had an old picture book with firebees! Did yours have painted pictures? I woudnt be surprised if we had the same ones.
@RCFlyBoy314
@RCFlyBoy314 2 года назад
@@cjuice9039 yes! It was a hard back, mostly brown cover
@Perktube1
@Perktube1 2 года назад
It's true. Every time I've seen footage of military air drones, it was that red-orange Ryan, they were that ubiquitous. I had the thought that target practice was all the military thought the drones were good for. Now I know better. 😉
@lucian9599
@lucian9599 2 года назад
Great video as always
@jlknapp505
@jlknapp505 2 года назад
I was part of a test unit formed to see whether a squad of infantry, equipped with the then-new M16 rifle, could engage a variety of drones, all towing drogues that were (in theory) our targets. Interesting, and revealing!
@djl5634
@djl5634 2 года назад
Did y'all actually do the test. And did it ever work
@stevecastro1325
@stevecastro1325 2 года назад
Love it! Thanks for illuminating a critical, yet unsung hero of aeronautical advancement.
@theseventhgeneration6910
@theseventhgeneration6910 2 года назад
The firebee was probably the single greatest contributor to American aviation technology.
@trojanthedog
@trojanthedog 2 года назад
You guys should do a show on the Australian designed and operated Jindivik!
@mdot2703
@mdot2703 2 года назад
My Navy Fighter Pilot Dad (and family) were stationed in Naha, Okinawa from 63-66. We watched a number of Firebee takeoffs.
@dodoubleg2356
@dodoubleg2356 2 года назад
Am I the only one who notices the distinct similarity between the early model drones & the German V1, not to mention its launch method?? If I didn't know any better, you'd think some German aviation professionals defected to the U.S. after WWII & shared their designs & knowledge w/us. *Hope you're picking up the sarcasm b/c I'm layin' it on pretty thick, ha.
@jrwoledge
@jrwoledge 2 года назад
As always informative and entertaining. Slightly spoilt by the inclusion of footage of the V1 flying bomb @2:56 ??? 🤔🙂
@Akuroxradio
@Akuroxradio 2 года назад
Dark team... you guys are awesome!!!!!!
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 2 года назад
Had no idea. Really interesting.
@thomastheeck5519
@thomastheeck5519 2 года назад
Suggested future project: historically accurate story of the Fieseler Fi103R Riechenberg including the flights by Hanna Reitsch.
@arrjay2410
@arrjay2410 2 года назад
We frequently hear of military failures, but rarely of their successes.
@pkline8341
@pkline8341 2 года назад
Another great video! Thank you.
@infoscholar5221
@infoscholar5221 2 года назад
Wow this was so inspiring in tone that I want to put on some John Phillips Sousa and go march around in the yard!
@lpjones2417
@lpjones2417 2 года назад
Awesome suggestion...🙂
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 года назад
Now if someone could just build a Fighter Plane version of this....................................................... One of those " Well I'll be damned . That works better than expected " designs .
@JamesHolben
@JamesHolben 2 года назад
Wow!....I'm thinking "that engine...in a light personal aircraft"... My inner pilot caught a thermal.... :)
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 2 года назад
How in the world could they build such good drones in a time where cameras where black and white? Amazing stuff
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 2 года назад
Color cameras date from at least WWII. But recon photos were usually B/W due to better resolution, so smaller details could be seen.
@genepozniak
@genepozniak 2 года назад
3:10 I think this guy has overworked himself with so many projects that he's got one of his kids or a nephew doing video editing. How else does a V-1 buzzbomb suddenly show up? LMAO
@mikesuch9021
@mikesuch9021 2 года назад
Back in the 90s visiting my brother out at China lake naval weapons testing center. They had six firebees sitting in a old hangar. With two more outside.
@emergingloki
@emergingloki 2 года назад
Those are V1s, not firebees at 2.56 and the next couple of shots.
@Ubersnuber
@Ubersnuber 2 года назад
Finally, I’ve worked out why I like these things via words. I like the tools but not the intent.
@avnrulz
@avnrulz 2 года назад
V-1 video, how nice.
@lmorandini
@lmorandini 2 года назад
01:58 that is the footage of a B-26 Marauder, not to be confused with the A-26 Invader (later renamed B-26) or JD-1 Invader as per the US Navy nomenclature.
@dennishilmas3423
@dennishilmas3423 2 года назад
The best part of this vid is watching the current war... It's weird that our stuff works and CCCP is STILL trying to catch up to 60s tech 🤗
@WoodsPrecisionArms
@WoodsPrecisionArms 2 года назад
You guys should do a video on Burt Rutans A-10 warthog replacement they built a prototype of it had a General Dynamics rotating gun but the gas system was designed to exit in a special way not to shift the plane. I forget the name but if you look up that info you will find it easy - Burt Rutan is the designer who won the nasa X Prize sending someone to orbit using a totally new style vehicle. He’s worth doing a video about for sure!
@Davroz451
@Davroz451 Год назад
Burt Rutan's Spaceship One was only suborbital. The Ansari X-Prize conditions stipulated the vehicle be capable of flying above the Karman Line (100 km) and repeat the exercise within a 24 period, demonstrating rapid reusability.
@thedungeondelver
@thedungeondelver 2 года назад
Okay here's a question I've always wondered about. We had the Firebee and variants as early as the 1950s, why did they not use them to saturate IADS over Vietnam. Just lob them in at all altitude brackets, give the PAVN something to shoot at, while the strike jets moved in behind.
@donalddowning4108
@donalddowning4108 2 года назад
Not sure if they tried or not. Might be a logistics problem. They had the Wild Weasel program that had the same purpose but it involved a piloted plane to seek out SAM emplacements and draw fire.
@ChattahoocheeRiverRat
@ChattahoocheeRiverRat 2 года назад
@@donalddowning4108 Yeah, but it would make a lot more sense to have a UAV draw fire, unless it was some stupid rule of engagement courtesy of LBJ. UAVs, if shot down, make lousy POWs.
@soppdrake
@soppdrake 2 года назад
Probably didn't want the secret tech dropping into the enemy's lap on a parachute
@1967250s
@1967250s 2 года назад
Sadly, most mission parameters were made by LBJ, and not by experienced operators. Firebees were used extensively though for many other missions.
@trevcharchartrev834
@trevcharchartrev834 Год назад
When you first mention the Douglas B-26 Invader as a launch ac (around the 2:00 point), you actually show a few different views of the Martin B-26 Marauder. Aside from both being two-engine medium bombers, there is very little else they have in common.
@charleslatora5750
@charleslatora5750 2 года назад
The spirit of St Louis was built by Ryan airlines after Ryan sold out to his partner who understand was a jerk. then Ryan started the new company Ryan aeronautical. My dad worked almost 20 years for them and I did almost 14. somewhere in the house I got a picture of the receipt that Ryan airlines gave her got for the spirit of St Louis. also got some pics copies of copies of copies of copies... of the spirit flying over a part of the San Diego harbor North Island area I believe.
@skylarking12
@skylarking12 2 года назад
Firebees were tried as photo-recon drones over Vietnam, Cambodia, and parts of China, where a manned photo recon was considered too dangerous, and Satellites weren't quite up to par yet.
@toomanyhobbies400
@toomanyhobbies400 2 года назад
About ten years ago the Air & Space magazine had a feature article about Fire Bee. It included information about recon flights over North Vietnam by Fire Bee's.
@10fantic
@10fantic 2 года назад
Happy 420 🎉
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 года назад
I genuinely feel like these would make for badass "Kit Planes", if some sort of landing gear could be attached! I'm sure their aeronautics and sensor package is sizeable and it's removal would free up enough space (and weight) for a cockpit to be added. Even better, if the chute system could be kept! Alas, I accept the fact that it would never be allowed. Mainly for it being so small and fast, that it'd undoubtedly be deemed "a major accident waiting to happen", but I nevertheless stand by my claim that it'd be the perfect kit jet!🤘
@davidborth9107
@davidborth9107 2 года назад
Had not heard of this aircraft. Great story.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 2 года назад
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up for support
@charlesbarilleaux2784
@charlesbarilleaux2784 2 года назад
You need to do a piece about the ones used for reconnaissance, and the CH-3s doing MARS.
@davidduff9871
@davidduff9871 2 года назад
I worked there and remember the Firebee well.
@SirFloofy001
@SirFloofy001 Год назад
Its amazing that the US military can get so much use out of all these 50's designs, yet cant turn out anything but controversy in the last 20 years.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 2 года назад
Nice V-1 shots...V1's had issues launching too I assume Ryan used this Nazi data to discover how best to launch their own Drones because the V-1 is after all a drone more or less. So it was interesting that the JATO pod caused it to roll on take off but once the JATO pod detached it tried to go back to level flight and the only reason it crashed qas because the guy doing the remote piloting was probably overcompensating as he was watching the Drone roll and i guess you can't say it was his fault but had they left it alone it probably would have been fine. This shows the drone had an inherent stability and seems they got the design right.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 2 года назад
The V1 isnt a drone, there is no way to guide it other than its own flight surfaces.
@hedonistaesthetic828
@hedonistaesthetic828 2 года назад
The V-1 was much closer to the being the first Cruise Missile. Targeting was largely based on simply pointing it in the direction of the target, and the targets distance was figured, at which point the V-1 was fueled with just enough fuel to reach its target. The Germans well knew the mileage of the V-1. My uncle, was a bomber radioman and nose gunner, He use to say that as long as you could hear the V-1 (buzz bomb) you were safe, but the second that the engine cut out You looked for cover as you were in its target area. The testing of American Cruise Missiles were launched from an Air Force base in East Central Ut. down to WhiteSands N.M.. The Ut. Base was shuttered after the Cruise Missiles test were done. - it wasn’t abandoned, and with all of the attention at Groom Lake it has been brought back into active status.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 2 года назад
@@hedonistaesthetic828 My best friends grandmother grew up in Manchester during the war, she said the same thing about the V1 noise.
@hedonistaesthetic828
@hedonistaesthetic828 2 года назад
@@sirbader1, Thanks for the reply. I remember telling my uncle that it must’ve been surreal walking around totally unconcerned with the sound of those things cruising around above you, not having a single concern until they suddenly went silent - then panic setting in as everybody immediately starts looking for some cover or the access to a Bomb shelter!!! It just seems kinda freaky not having any worries till the B-1 just went Eerily quiet 😟😧🤕
@theprojectproject01
@theprojectproject01 2 года назад
I seriously want to fly one of those. Even if I have to straddle the damn thing.
@jonomasonILoveU
@jonomasonILoveU 2 года назад
Never heard of the Firebee until now.
@ianrobinson8974
@ianrobinson8974 2 года назад
23/04/2122 As an old bloke from th land downunder, I had heard of the firebee, as I have been a 'plane nut for too many years. I hadn't heard of the Firebee's war usage and am surprised that the technology took so long to be accepted/used world wide. Australia developed and used the Jindivik as a target machine and later the Ikara as a torpedo launch machine from naval vessels; so I guess the technology wasn't all "rocket science". Thanks for the vid Dark Skies!
@jennifernichols9468
@jennifernichols9468 2 года назад
I saw one on a truck near LZ dodo back in 88 Camp Lejeune North Carolina. I was a PFC assigned to build a field mess for a one time meal service for some Pentagon competition. Never heard how we placed.
@logantc.1353
@logantc.1353 2 года назад
I suppose when a prototype drone crashes its not as big of a deterrent to continue the project since it won’t carry people anyways
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 2 года назад
Thanks DS
@LawtonDigital
@LawtonDigital 2 года назад
The "11,000 pound rocket assisted takeoff bottle" has to refer to the thrust and not the weight of the booster.
@jamesdelrogers542
@jamesdelrogers542 2 года назад
You need to do a video on how these became the tomcats in Vietnam Not to be mistaken with the f 14
@JB-84
@JB-84 2 года назад
For some reason I read Frisbee
@lukewilliamson74
@lukewilliamson74 2 года назад
I love the numerous clips of Nazi V-1 flying bombs in a documentary about the Firebee, just makes so much sense...
@Archie2c
@Archie2c 2 года назад
Helpful and informative
@GhostShadow1030
@GhostShadow1030 2 года назад
Swear you had footage of the V-1/V-2 rocket 😭
@xraycharli
@xraycharli 2 года назад
I am the first time a bit confused. Maybe I am wrong. I saw pictures from the Germans WWII V1 but spoken words about Ryans Firebee. Also some picture squences with B17 broken nose and other WWII images.
@77gravity
@77gravity 2 года назад
3:00 Kinda weird showing V1 launches while talking about the Firebee.
@raphaelrae8186
@raphaelrae8186 2 года назад
After years of studying aviation history, I never even heard anything of this.
@charlesmills6621
@charlesmills6621 2 года назад
Why no mention of the BQM 34A beıng used for arial reconnaisance? Been there, seen that.
@sonnyburnett8725
@sonnyburnett8725 2 года назад
Thanks, this was great!
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 года назад
Thank You' you just increased my knowledge of early drone technology expediently ( most was top secret)
@PrestonBannister
@PrestonBannister 2 года назад
10:00 there were no "microprocessors" in the 1960s. The most primitive came out in the late 1970s, first in to the military market, and later to commercial. In those days, military electronics were far in advance of commercial. My father worked at a military contractor that did much early work on LSI and VLSI - and he worked on very early microprocessors.
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