The most damaging thing to his titles with gsw is we all saw draymond basically tell kd “ we don’t need you “ which was facts and they win after he left
We don’t need u to beat a fully healthy Lebron team which they did yeah gs didn’t need him to beat anybody else but Lebron cause they wasn’t beating a healthy Lebron team without kd just lied draymond said
@@melorileytv3408 Draymond didn't say anything about fully healthy lebron team. You just made it up. Then you called other Guy a liar. It's not about winning a fully healthy lebron team, it's about winning. You just posessioned lebron as God which is somehow quite typical thing to do.
@@heimonen5174 Take KD off that warriors team,they lose to Kyrie and Bron led Cavs in 2017,and they lose to 2018 rockets wit Harden and CP3,so actually they did need him
@@richyd4762 I think you forgot a lil bit ..there was never any major trade ..they actually added a bunch of good to great players through FA (sh*t was insane)they let some guys walk …just flat out signed KD to a 73-9 roster ..added d west, Durant , Zaza ,Ian Clark and Javale..they let Barbosa Harrison Barnes Ezili and B rush go
I don’t think LeBron is the GOAT but you’re definitely downplaying those Miami titles by comparing them to KD’s 2 with GSW. Sure DWade had a title already, but it’s not like Miami was coming off of back to back finals and the greatest regular season record of all time, when LeBron and Bosh signed there.
Did you watch basketball during that time? The narrative was those titles didn’t count. First he lost to just dirk he choked. Then he beat the young okc team they were so young it don’t count. Then ray Allen saved his career and the spurs were old doesn’t count. Then Kawhi locked him down he was scared he choked again. Those were the narratives of his heat years
@@rdubb6592 Out of curiosity, why do people say Ray Allen saved LeBron’s legacy? Obviously the corner three was impressive, and without it you could say Miami might not get that title, but even if it was against an inexperienced team, he’d already won a championship as the number one option, and he’s done so more times since. If you took away that title, we are still probably talking about someone who makes the Hall of Fame on the first ballot without much debate, so why do people say that? Not a particular LeBron fan, but I’ve never understood that one.
@@fortynights1513 I’m not one of those people that say he saved his legacy that was the narrative tho. But if you remember that game originally Lebron took the shot and he missed and then ray Allen had to hit it. So he definitely saved the game and the series but I don’t think lebrons entire legacy is dependent on that shot.
Stop it. A lot of people hated LeBron for going to the Heat and put asterisks next to everything he did there but that wasn’t the leading narrative. Plus even if they were favored to come out of the East, it wasn’t a sure thing, with the Celtics Pacers and even Bulls giving them a good fight and the West having dominant teams like the Lakers Spurs and Mavs. When KD joined the Warriors people were literally saying there’s no point to the regular season because everyone knew what the outcome was going to be.
What KD did is literally no different than what Lebron did. Lebron left his home team and went to Miami where they bought everyone he cried for. Kd went to an already built team.
How about the Clyde Drexler trade? He had no titles before, and the team he joined had just won one. Not that Drexler deserves to be dunked on, but would that be an equivalent that did happen?
Definitely could of won there if he hadn't left he was already up 3-1 in the conference finals on them lol It was such a weak and dumb decision if he cares about his legacy. If he just cared about enjoying himself and winning it was the right decision but if he cared about where he ranked all time it was the worst thing he could do
Saying that winning a title with Brooklyn's big 3 would "fix" KD's legacy is hilarious. All the drama that came with its construction and the pure domination that was thw first round. Nobody would ever say that was a legit title 😂
Golden state winning AFTER he left didn't also help his case, AND i feel like he knows too because sincve they've won he requested a trade like i truly feel like he was kinda okay about where is legacy was before gsw won again last year because those 2 rings look even worse in a vacuum like damn they really won BEFORE and AFTER he came
I personally think that if KD has stayed in Golden State and potentially won the championship with Curry but without Klay, KD would be viewed much better. He would have carried the load a lot if he was able to.
Imagine lebron , kobe or Jordan bird etc joined super team they just lost to.. it’s unimaginable , KD was considered mamas boy before he got all defensive and ring chasing
He was my favourite player as a kid but I can respect his decision, he will forever be the sorest loser of all time. No one with his his skill level has ever hopped a fence the way he did going to Golden State. It’s unprecedented and sets a terrible example for kids, one of the worst stories in sports that doesn’t have to do with any tragic controversy and just sports stuff. I’ll always love his game, and always hate on his tactics.
I really believe wat left a bad taste in people's mouths was that he left the team that drafted him for the team that beat them in the WCF. Imho that said a lot about his character and this era of the NBA as a whole.
Calling KD’s career a disappointment is crazy. #2 overall pick who became an MVP and one of the greatest scorers in history is not a disappointment lol.
I think what they mean is that for KD to always talk about why isn't he considered in the GOAT conversation, KD has no place at the table or even the room. KD only does one thing great. He's a terrible leader, doesn't rebound or pass well, never was a 2 way player and even his scoring never really did much other than get him scoring titles and MVP in OKC. GSW won titles without him so with Harrison Barnes and Andrew Wiggins in his place so it proves that KD wasn't that important to their team success. Dude is top 20 all time but not top 10
2016 was when I stopped considering KD the second best in the league because he blew a three-one lead against the golden state warriors because he was literally right there one game away from going back to the finals once he joined that team in the off season I was mad not because he joined the warriors but the fact that he ruined another players legacy that being stephs he took those final mvps away from him of course we don't know if goldenstate would've made it back as many times as they did but I think that's what made me hate KD the most because he couldn't lead his team to succeed he decided to join the best built team in the nba there were so many other teams he could've chosen like the clippers trail blazers or reunited with harden or the 5th seeded grizzlies all those team made the playoffs and yet he chose golden state I think everyone wouldn't have cared if he didn't join the golden state warriors or the cavs and I think it irritated me because curry at the time had almost as much success as KD I could be wrong
KD didn't enjoy the videogame at the highest difficulty, so he lowered it. There's no shame in that, but you can't expect to be compared to those who play on highest.
A quick look back to KD's unfortunate career: - 2012 finals game 2-4 were all extremely tight games honestly could go either way, but OKC was indeed inexperienced plus Harden played poorly. But Miami was the better team. - 2013 OKC was no1 in the west and serious contender, but westbrook injured by beverly in the first round. OKC ended up losing to Memphis in the second round. - 2014 OKC was serious contender. no2 seed in the west only 1 game behind spurs, even with westbrook missing 36 games that season, but that spurs team was at its peak, OKC lost to spurs in conference finals but honestly, Serge Ibaka missing game 1 and 2 OKC got absolutely blew out by spurs because they had no rim protection, Boris Diaw was just doing whatever he wanted in the paint... Ibaka came back with injury they dominated spurs in game 3 and 4. To be honest, OKC always kind of counters spurs in those years, I see that OKC with healthy Ibaka beating spurs and heat (already on its downfall, especially dwade) that year. (Sidenote: 2014 western conference is stacked af, and the biggest west east discrepancy in NBA history.) - 2015 KD was injured most of the season, westbrook tried to carry the team into playoff but OKC was the 9th seed, a fully healthy OKC would be contender but they didn't even make playoff. - 2016 OKC was really good, they had a new coach and their regular season run wasn't very smooth, but they looked like the better team than golden states in the playoff, it took Klay's legendary performance in game 6 and thunder shooting 3-23 from threes for warriors to barely win. OKC absolutely dominated game 3 and 4 at home. Also let's be honest, the league clearly wanted a finals rematch that year and clearly wanted 1-3 come back drama to sell more tickets. Draymond kicking Adams in the mid area only got called a flagrant one in game (so Draymond wouldn't get ejected in that game), after that game 3 the league upgrade that foul to a flagrant 2, but still not banning draymond next game, which is extremely weird. NBA upgrading that foul basically saying Draymond's foul was intentional but it didn't really result in any penalty. But Draymond was banned in game 5 against cavs due to a argubly less serious foul at the end of game 4. In both western finals series and finals series, refs clearly favored the team that was down 1-3, especially in game 5s. OKC should have beaten warriors, and warriors should have beaten cavs. (Not taking credit away from the teams that came back from behind, but NBA manipulating games isn't anything new honestly any old NBA fans can tell, and it was possibly at its peak during that year). - 2017-2018 KD with warriors was just unfair. KD was finally on the fortunate side ones, because they could have lost to the spurs in 2017 if Kawhi didn't get hurt by zaza (hmm warriors still most likely to win that series maybe 70% chance, but that spurs team was a serious threat). And no, that warriors team ain't losing to cavs in 2018 even if JR smith didn't make that stupid mistake in game 1. - 2019 KD injured in the playoff, klay injured in game 6. Otherwise there was no way they lost to Toronto. (I'm a raptors fan) - 2020 nothing to say about it - 2021, nets was very clearly the best team in the league. Harden injured within 10 seconds in game 1 versus the bucks, nets still absolutely demolished bucks in game 1 and 2. And then, league manipulating games again in game 3 and 4 :) it wasn't that refs clearly favored the bucks, it was the fact that the standard of games being called drastically changed. Those two games became super physical and not many fouls were called on both side. which obviously favored the bucks because Giannis really struggled to make any free throws at the time and the nets were the best free throw team. It became too physical that Kyrie was injured in game 4. KD with a crippled harden who could barely move, almost defeated the bucks who was the eventual champion. It was literally a foot toe away, we all know that. But let's be honest, KD alone wasn't gonna beat the suns in the finals most likely. But yeah, in conclusion, KD could have won a few more rings if not for untimely injuries. It's kind of sad by the end of the day people are just going to say, KD couldn't win anything without golden states.
nobody ever said anything about the fact that players can choose where to play. nobody. its all about the legacy and how you want to reach your goals. you can certainly go to the best team of all time and get a chip there, but people have every right to call you weak for it.
Part of the problem is that no matter what the guy does, the media always has a negative spin on it. I'm still waiting for them to give Jokic a hard time about not having a ring. They still give KD a hard time about that and he has 2!
@@richynodar Nah, they started with Lebron when he was 25. KD it was more like 27 but Giannis was already hearing about how he has to leave the Bucks and how he has to shoot threes and all this nonsense by the time he was 25 too. Those guys just managed to shut some of them up by actually winning the championship.
@@sandman1347 Bron being the best player in the league and all his hype made it different for him. Kd had a few years before the talk got too loud. Giannis is because he was at least top 3 in the league so young. I think Jokić and Emiid have got off the hook so far because of the old powers still being so great in LBJ, KD, Curry and them. And Tatum has gotten off because he’s in Boston so they’ll give him a lot more time before going for his head. But we’ll see with the old guys starting to fade a bit the new era will begin soon.
@@SuperSupersoda if Chet evolves to the player we all know he can be, if Lue Dort takes that next step and becomes an all nba caliber defender while being a highly efficient role player and if Shai keeps up this pace OKC will be the best team in the west for years to come.
Unfortunately, the main thing I can recall about KD was the "burner post" (he spoke in 3rd person) he made using his verified Twitter/X account. Oh and that GSW won the NBA Finals before, during and after KD, whereas KD could only win with GSW (as of this writing).
13x all star, 10x all nba, MVP, 2x Finals MVP. Come on Tucker, that’s not a disappointment. He’s easily the third best forward of all time and absolutely lived up to (if not exceeded) expectations
The issue is that, KD was needed by GS and Draymond being the guy he is? Creates this field where it’s like they don’t check him to tell him to relax his emotionality. So he just vents and vents. They needed him. It doesn’t matter what they did after, at that time? They needed him. If they didn’t they wouldn’t have asked him to join.
They’re off of a 7 game finals the previous year. They could’ve ran it back with no changes and won, but since they had the money, why not get a top 5 player in the league? It’s not rocket surgery.
50/40/90 club, three best mid range shooting seasons of all time are his, 2x FMVP, went to a 70w team and was immediately the best player on the floor. I mean I get it, it's easy and cheap content to put out but this has been done a million times. Must have had no ideas rolling around the ol' noodle.
I think that injury in 2019 play offs torned his legacy more than anything including his decision to join GSW back in 2016. If he was fully healthy that year then he would have had 3-peat and 3x FMVP which would have solidified as a top 5 player by the end of his career...
Injuries aren't bad luck! It's your build, your incredible height, your marvellous physique, mother nature at work. It's also your work ethics, your off court behavior, your online behavior. Durant is clearly a what if, but it's not really based on injury - he had enough chances to win. He chose poorly, that's about it
That’s why football is the most loved sports in the world and not basketball. Even a 5”6 height Lionel Messi can compete in the elite level unlike this basketball that worships giants to be able to compete professionally. Just think about it, with the lower height requirement and your tall height not guarantees your advantage, football is a much more competitive sport than basketball.
Getting injured as a number 1 pick is like crashing a ferrari and expecting ti drive away like it didnt happen. Greg Oden was a flop even if he was a good ball player.
He should've joined the Wizards in 2016. We had a really awesome core with John Wall, Bradley Beal, and Otto Porter, Jr. was a nice piece as well. We just really needed that last piece to get us over the top and compete with teams like Cleveland and Golden State. Besides, he is from the DMV so from a legacy standpoint it would've potentially cemented his legacy. At least the NBA would've been way more interesting. Just imagine a 2017 Cavs vs Wizards Eastern Conference Finals matchup with KD vs LeBron, etc. That would've been epic! So say Washington beats Cleveland in a 7 game hotly contested series, then goes on to slay the mighty Golden State Warriors in also an epic series, that would've been absolutely amazing! Thunder kinda had their chance and blew it so joining Washington in 16 was probably the best move from a legacy standpoint. I know I'm probably biased as a Wizards fan but the NBA would've at least been a lot more interesting as opposed to knowing GSW were pretty much a shoe-in for the title and the endless Cavs vs Warriors finals matchups.
Goat career isnt attainable because Jordan existed. With that said KD will be remembered as a top 10-20 player of all time. Winning more titles wouldnt have changed that. Look at Kobe he won 5 rings and hardly anyone puts him in top 5 or even top 10 lists
In a lot of ways KD is discredited I think Lebron should be looked at the same way. People forgot how good Wade and Bosh were. Same thing with Kevin Love. Love was a 20+ ppg and 12+ reb before Cleveland
I don't think him joining the suns ruins his legacy. His play speaks for itself you also can't ignore the fact that he won both the FMVPS when he was with the Warriors and won both those chips. The dude is a straight baller.
His legacy currently is that he can only win championships on teams that could have won without him. Moving to Phoenix ruins his chance to reverse that story
OKC messed up with Harden and they never fully recovered. Also I wonder how different the GS move would've been if they lost to a different team before he left.
@@user-vk6ix2yx5v There are levels to this. As a talent, in a fantasy draft of all those players, he would be in the top ten for sure. He has got all the tools you need. But to me there is no way as a ranking of greatest players of all time that he is top ten
All IK is that KD got nothing to prove,if he was to retire today,he will go down as a 2 time FMVP and one of the best players to ever play the game of basketball,and that not an option,that is a FACT💯
KD will never get that winning-team-joiner stench out of his career. Which is kind of unfair because he was actually the best player on that 2017 title run with the Warriors and they wouldn't have won without him that year. And still, this will forever tarnish his legacy.
Yeah he's joining GSW is surely hit hard... I think PHX also but on lesser impact, GSW is an established team, if he's joining a team with maybe just 1 superstar that would look better
Just 1 superstar? Nobody on the Suns even made the Allstar Game....hard to call them a cast of superstars. You've got Booker whos mid-range is top of the league, admittedly. A 38? year old CP3, whos entered the stage of their career where everyone questions how washed he is. And then we have the little kid, Deandre Ayton, who stays up til 5am playing video games, has terrible work ethic, and due to his potential, has ridiculously contrasting games where he gets 25pts 15rb, and then another where he has 6pts and 4rb--and gets outrebounded by our 3rd string bench center.... So yeah, Durant completes this team due to his skillset, size, and ability off-ball, which increases the suns starting cast to ''potential all-stars'' if they win a title...but as it is now, the Suns really are a team with little to no depth, with an excellent starting 5. Basically a recipe for KD to injure himself again by the WCF, losing in the Finals to the Bucks again. Im a Suns fan, and want to see them win it all this year, but the reality is, we probably wont be ''solid'' until next year, because we need to attract some role-player talent in the offseason/next year.
As a fan of KD, I have to say this is a well-documented analysis for him. I feel he choked when it mattered most, whether it be in OKC or with Brooklyn... I think MJ feels he's become a bit of a disappointment as well. I think MJ expected more from KD and he's just not been able to lead a team the way James or Kobe or even Curry has. Now there's tons of new blood looking to lead as well as those who are tired of being behind the James, Curry, KD talk and have stepped up.
this dude couldve been the goat no doubt. i mean steph at this point in his career is top 10 all time and remember, at his absolute peak KD joined and was instantly the unquestioned best player of this team. i mean to take over a team from a top 10 player of all time without anyone doubting that decision is crazy.
TBH I don’t think Golden State wins without KD, I get at the time it seemed like worst thing he could’ve done but KD is a BASKETBALL PLAYER, his whole life is basketball, it’s all he’s loved. It would’ve been DUMB for him not to go to Golden State, when you’re presented with the opportunity to go play the best basketball possibly ever in a once in lifetime scenario where you can go literally anywhere bc of the new TV deal, you take it
Why not? They just had a 7 game finals series the year before. They could’ve resigned those pieces to run it back instead of making room for his contract.
But Kevin was unhappy in OKC playing with Russ. That is a very well known fact in OKC and Texas because Mark wanted to make a run for KD but he knew KD wouldn’t play for him.
Not trying to come at you crazy, but where do y’all get this from? When his whole burner account thing happened (he forgot to switch from his main account), he explicitly states: “Imagine taking Russ off that team. See how bad they were? KD can’t win a championship with those cats.” “… he didn’t like the organization or playing for Billy Donovan. His roster wasn’t that good, it was just him and Russ.” That sounds like he hated playing with everybody except Russ.
I could not care less about my legacy if I was the best player on two championship teams, the best single season team, and one of the greatest dynasties ever
He was never the best player on the warriors. KD wasn’t on the 73-9 warriors. Steph won championships BEFORE and AFTER KD. KD has not done either. It shows that he just hopped on curry’s wagon. Curry can win championships without KD. KD needs curry to win
@@-_-ale-_ *best regular season team ever You can’t say it was the best single season without a ring( I know he wasn’t on that team but it’s still important) Also curry was the best player on those teams as much as I hate him being a cavs fan, it was when curry had the ball I was nervous not kd. I’d argue kd made the warriors a little bit worse as a team when joining but that’s just me
Yeah, i agree, Durant was completely within his rights to play at Golden State. And I'm completely within my rights to say those rings are meaningless.
KD will end up as top 5 regardless Warriors needed him and he needed them. For the casuals saying they won without him afterwards yeah that’s true but they weren’t facing Lebron James no offense to them a healthy Cavs whooping the Warriors real one’s know wassup a lot ppl just hate KD because it’s trendy
I get people saying they don’t like him joining the Warriors but I get tired of hearing people saying he took the easiest way. To me the easiest way would have been to join the Spurs, who won 67 games the year prior, to team up with Kawhi. Kawhi and Durant to me is a better combo than Steph as far as how they fit. KD plays with Kawhi, Kawhi probably never gets injured, they beat the Warriors in 5. People forget that before Kawhi got injured they were beating the Warriors by 24 in game 1, you add KD to that Spurs team nobody is beating them. People also forget that 73 win Warriors team would not win 73 again with Harrison Barnes and Mo Speights. People forget context so much they don’t understand what KD on the Spurs would have been. KD wins 2 maybe 3 straight, and leaves to a bigger market. On top of that he wins them easier but his legacy is better because of the team he went to. A lot of people don’t know basketball or reality they just like narratives, but oh well I like watching good basketball so I just ignore all the narratives.
Dubs champions before KD and after. Dubs been unbeatable before KD and after. Dubs set the season record without KD. KD is a great HOF player, no doubt, but there’s more going on with GSW than just one single great player. Steph is #1, but everyone’s contributing in big ways. Don’t underestimate the coaching and the system, either. Lots of things.
There’s so many things you factor in on KD because he’s a first ballot hall of famer and Top 12 All time! Another ring would get him top 10. People try to discredit him for his move to GS but the crazy thing is without even thinking about it we all would’ve did the same thing. After playing for a team for 10 years with no results and you finally become a free agent. The team that plays the right way, is able to elevate your game to a higher level, and gives you a better shot at winning the title is coming to you while you’re in the Hamptons asking you to join them AND still get pretty good money 💰 while being in a nice city like San Francisco CA where you can invest in businesses and you passing that up?!? No way I would. Idk about y’all but I like to WIN! Plus KD won back to back finals mvp and was the main BUS DRIVER during those 2 years. Best move he’s ever made.
There's a reason why we've never seen a superstar player leave to go to the team that beat him and did not need him to win those championships. It was the weakest move in NBA history and yes, i'd say a majority of players would NOT have made that move. There's a difference between winning and earning it vs. winning and cheating to get there. When you join a team where your starting lineup is 5 all-star players, its the easy way out. Especially when the premise is "if you can't beat em, join em". He was not the bus driver during those years. The reason KD excelled so much during those finals runs was because teams were more busy guarding klay, curry, and dray and there was not enough protection against all of them defensively. That is why other players like iggy and livingston looked like straight up all-stars. KD is and will always be known for winning easy chips. That's why he left GS to begin with, but even that has proven that he cant drive the bus.
@@zada2423 that’s the whole point of being in the NBA… to win titles! Blame the fans for making it to where you need a ring to have a legacy. If it weren’t for that; Kd wouldn’t have went to the warriors. With that being said If I’m in his shoes you think I came to the nba to continue losing for 10 years with 1 team? You think I won’t go to a team that makes my job easier, my game easier on the court, surrounding myself around the right group of guys who can also elevate me to be better as a player?? When you’re a free agent that’s what you do. You pick a team that best fits YOU and that’s what he did, so if he doesn’t have a legacy because he wanted to better himself then that’s fine. As long as he did what was right for him.
@@WhereDaHoesAt AI doesn't have a ring, melo doesn't have a ring. They both have legacy in the game. KD showed he's weak by joining the warriors, that he can't go up against guys that are better than him, so he went to play with them because he knew he couldn't beat them. That's not just 'making your job easier' it's straight up copping out. It's not about having the hardware, it's about what you did to get that hardware. The warriors destroyed every team because they were already a super team without KD. That is why nobody respects him
@@zada2423 tbh as you can see me and you will always agree to disagree on this conversation, but I’ll end it with this; nobody should be okay with losing in the NBA. You see what’s going on with Damian Lillard; they praised him back then for being so loyal staying with the blazers through all the hard times not jumping ship, but look at what people are saying now. People literally BEGGING him to leave the blazers to go for a title contending team. Like KD was literally losing the same way lillard was for 10 straight years with OKC. Why it’s okay for Lillard to leave to go to any team to win, but KD can’t do it? That’s really crazy to me, but good conversation tho unfortunately we will always agree to disagree ya know.
This vid is literally why ring culture is so toxic. Nothing about KD's rings is ''damaging'' or ''questionable'' because he joined a successful team. By that logic, when Michael Jordan came back from playing baseball, him going to the bulls was damaging, because he didnt go to a crappier team and win 3 more? Lol....like, this whole discussion is just dumb. Stop making videos questioning champions legacies.
Don’t compare what KD did to Lebron you goofball!! The Heat were not a 73-9 dynasty team they were a fringe playoff team in 2010 duh. And DWade was not a 2-time reigning MVP. You guys keep on disrespecting Lebron for whatever propaganda hating you guys are doing smh
I think people look at this last years GSW team and take it as proof they didn’t need Durant. The Warriors first ring was won only after both Love and Kyrie went out for the Cavs. I do think they needed Durant.
If I’m being honest if Giannis wins his 2nd chip and finals mvp along with his already stacked resume. KD is in danger of being surpassed by Giannis all time already.
The only reason for the KD hate is fanboy feelings 😢 Y'all haven't got over the A$$ whoopings he gave your King huh. The greatest part of it is hear the vocal tap dancing to make the hate make sense when your man crush started the super team building and Still does it to this day. It's hilarious
durant was a cupcake(Westbrook's words😅😅😅)4 joining the warriors, he knew that was the ez path 2 a ring. LeBron joining a "superteam" in Miami wasn't the same as the warriors. Warriors had championships & 70 win seasons. Cupcake should've went 2 knicks & won a chip he'd be a legend right then. U couldn't question his legacy if he won w/the knicks after previous disastrous seasons.
I feel like you are overrating Durant - potentially top 8, top 15 right now - really? He is a great player, but he hasn’t really been a great leader, his defence has improved considerably but still far from elite, outside of shooting I’m not sure if has any elite level skill (relative to his peers), and even his shooting he isn’t known for way down town range. On many of his teams he has been a ball stopper. Again not saying he isn’t a great player, or even a super star just think he is being overrated from an all time perspective. IMO still outside top 5 at his position (3/SF).
When Nets fans were all upset about Durant leaving, I was telling them to thank their stars because this is a highly paid old man ready to break down at any moment. They dumped a huge salary, avoided another injury, and got nice pieces and picks. The only stupid thing the Nets did was including TJ Warren in that Suns trade. Here they had a guy for league minimum and if healthy a starter and they let him go for what?
I do like the premise of this video... I think it's true, if they win in 2012, LeBron is officially out of the GOAT talk, Harden stays with OKC, KD enters the goat talk position
He should of stayed with the dubs and have one of the biggest dynasties in modern basketball. The dubs would of had 5,6,7? Chips. And kd would of been made the star of it in the history books. All he is now is a superstar journeyman. Just like all the others. They all think thier LeBron and can win multiple chips with multiple teams.
all titles count but i get what your saying some mean more then others Like LBJ bubble titile just doesnt mean as much as his clevland titile. DO you think he has a steph curry like performance in this denver series? Winning a two titles cements his legacy and winning a 3rd with phoenix would be icing on the cake. Look at steve nash 3 MVP 0 titles that effects his legacy more.
2x champ & finals mvp stop the bs fool numerous of confrence finals 4 final appearances stop coming on yt and saying dumb shit most young guys favorite player in nba is kd you niggas be haters and casuals
@@ImAlxxy read that’s how simple it is anyways what I’m trynna say it that KD is the best basketball player to make it to the NBA ever he is #1 simple as that
I always say once KD went to GS that that move basically compensated for Bron going to Miami. Looking back I think when Miami first constructed people thought they’d be like GS in terms of dominance but in reality while they were very dominant they weren’t the unbeatable superteam that was KD warriors
You might say that because you are young, but the MIami series wasn’t close. It was obvious after the first game MIami had the advantage. Especially the way Westbrook was playing. Scoring a lot of points, but had tunnel vision and didn’t play smart basketball as usual.
Honestly, if KD went to the Celtics in 2016 that would have been awesome to see Isaiah Thomas, Al Hortford, and KD lead the celtics to potentially a Title would have been beautiful. Especially if it was during the playoffs when IT lost his sister. Unfortunately... That never happened.
If OKC won against the heat would be a great "what if". I mean if they won then the organization would do everything to keep harden and KD "could" possibly in the GOAT conversation while throwing Lebron near the drain. Look if Lebron and the heat lost against OKC then they would be back to back failures and worst that back to back was against a mavs with just Dirk as the legitimate star and then the "young" OKC.
I honestly think KD's career - as well as that of Harden & Westbrook - are kinda tied to trajectory of the OKC Thunder over that same stretch. You have a franchise ripped from its roots in the Pacific Northwest, and transplanted in the middle of the Dust Bowl. It just kinda sets the tone for everything that happens afterwards. KD, Westbrook, Harden... seems to me like everything that OKC touches is cursed to underachieve.
Exactly. Swept Kobe and the 2-time defending champion Lakers. People act like the people on their team were shells of themselves. They weren’t what they once were, but they could still hoop!
He won two NBA titles with GSW and was a major contributor. To argue they don't count is just BS, and I'm a lifelong Cavalier fan. I think he was the reason GSW were able to beat those great CAVs teams. He's one of the greatest players of all time, and the legacy talk is basically meaningless.
I think the best case for KD is if he linked up with Jimmy Butler in Boston He still gets to be the focal point like Hakeem with Clyde (because stars can’t do it alone, not even MJ as he had Pippen). He’d probably win a title in 2018, maybe 2019 assuming the Sixers don’t actually get better by the moving and shaking in the draft/standings. 1-2 titles, then maybe he could stay, or maybe he could go somewhere else like BKN anyway with Kyrie cuz it’s Kevin Durant
Lets all accept the fact Durant is a top 20 player ever. That's it. His not going to somehow evolve into something else. Its who he is. We should just celebrate that.
