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This is actually crazy!!!! I have no knowledge on these types of things, but this one video (which I just found on my recommendations) thought me so much stuff about how live mixing works!

Awww you guys are great 😊 thanks for taking the time to record the details. Much appreciated.

As usual, another great video. One thing that I've meant to mention in previous videos is the great relationship that you all seem to have with this band. That's really nice.

Wow, thats amazing The Sound Couple, what a energy, the Audio was so clear and crystal , Keep up Couple.

Loving the experimentation from you guys, especially sub configurations & placements is a really interesting topic Also the wide angle cam side of stage is super cool

BIG job today..... great work guys..... that polarity flip on the subs made a big difference...

i always love watching your videos and am learning a lot. wish to meet you one day

Peminat Dari Malaysia Hadir... 🤗 Hasil Kerja Yang Kemas.... The Sound Couple TERBAIK... 👍👍 Terima Kasih Atas Perkongsian Ilmu...

Great video & gig! I miss warm weather already.

You just gained a subscriber all the way from South Africa 👍

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate it

Good morning everyone, I really like your videos and the work you do with the installation of sound equipment at events, I think it is tiring work but very rewarding, working with what we like is very good. A blessed end of the year and may you continue with a lot of work in 2023. Carlos - Sao Paulo - Brazil

Great show... I really like othat call "idot check"... very funny.. great gear tha you have.

I totally enjoyed this.Felt like I was right there.

I did a event like this back in the summer and the last time I did it bass was bleeding over into the neighbouring performance area and on to the stage so this year I decided to do cardioid sub setup and it worked a dream. It would be something that I would recommend you guys try for gigs like this. Great video as always

Awesome as always

Love your content👌👌

I really appreciate you guys

Great videos!

The height of that stage! 😮 My back hurt watching you guys set up.

wow i like your audio equipmnts.. more setup The sound couple & stay safe for travels & Godbless...

Good job. Bravo.

getting in love with this like me and sound are bff's i really love it thanks for the video hoping to get where you are even grow bigger than you someday 😇

Nice to see you!

Besides all the great gear, gear packing, setting up and overall sound, man of the match for me are: -Stacey’s calves 💪🏽💪🏽 (with respect) -Battery and storage of all your filming devices

Good job 👍🏻❤❤

Always enjoy watching your adventures from Australia, we do regional touring in South Australia (mostly remote locations), Stacey is a gun Bart, you are lucky to have a partner so dedicated to your adventures and to keep you level! Moving wash fixtures look great on truss verticals, stage looks great 👌👌🇦🇺

this video is the best of both worlds

Always nice to get to an event and find you have plenty of power. Even though power specs are always shared well in advance, I nearly always have to fudge my way through some way or another. A local venue I work has power pillars with 16A Ceeform outlets, but the breakers are rated at 10A...Suffice it to say, you have to fudge around a lot with what draws power from where to make sure you don't keep blowing breakers. I'm finding the events a local guy and I work together are getting bigger as days go on, and the power needs are going up along with it. We both use 32A distro's at this point, though 63A and three-phase distro's are looking likely in the near future.

ur guys are awesome just 2 of u #salute!

you can also do the post show mixing with the X32 and M32, both have the option use the X-LIVE card which makes it really easy to handle multi-channel playback and recording

I love that GIF haha

Something to try would be making the middle cabinet of the 3 center subs facing the opposite direction, and flipping the polarity on just that middle box. Play with the timing offset on it and you should be able to create a cardioid array to create cancellation behind and summation in the front!

Even when bands bring their own wireless gear, I do a full RF scan/coordination for them with my RF Explorer and Wireless Workbench to make sure their frequencies are compatible. Whenever possible, I try to use my own RF gear with combiners and remote antennas too. In the end, they look at you when there are RF issues.. Based on their descriptions and the fact that you're playing inside a box with a lot of reflective metal, I'm guessing they are experiencing quite a bit of multipath interference on their IEMs. Directional antennas and lowering the tx power in addition could help here.

It might help your PA processing if you setup a matrix to feed your center subs. That way you can flip polarity, apply special EQ, to the group as a whole with one output rather than opening up each cabinet on the network controller. You could probably also assign delay easier As well. In your situation where it looks that the center subs and outer subs are in a line, it makes sense that they’d be already in time and not need much timing offset.

Darn shame all that work. Great set up & rain storm coming. Great systems 👍!

Saludos desde Mendoza Argentina

We usually identify for example the Bass DI input with a knot like you do. However, we also use only colored XLRs for all outputs and all BLACK XLRs for inputs. That way later if we have to identify a problem we know that we are looking for either a certain color XLR etc..

I love recording live shows with the daw. Presonus did a awesome job making it very easy to do.

Oh the dreaded stage next to the demo derby/ tractor pull arena. Been there, done that.

Excelente muy cómodo es genial👍

Thank you for informative content. The "school of hard knocks" visual experience and expertise is invaluable. One novice question though... why didn't you leave the sub on the ground as the stage is quite high and all...... thanks and keep it up.

love it,.,.

Hello am using PreSonus studio live 32s and connected it to my iMac 27 inch of 2017 but i get usb connection Errors, it looses connections every 5 to 10 minutes. please tell me whats with my studio live mixer or its the computer not matching up with the mixer?

It’s actually quite a bit of isolation you’re getting in each of the sources. Including the vocal mics. I was surprised how little bleed there was even for an outdoor environment

cool video as usual guys !

I was thinking of what you said about the band providing you with a guest mix from their in-ear system, great idea. Might even be helpful if their system gave you a USB drive copy of the shows.

East coast!!!! Roads are clean!!! No snow!!!

I like it’s brothers From sound man in Bangkok(Thailand)

O.n.e. thanks apaw ❤️🇵🇭🙏🏻

Was thinking if you would move the tops to the outer subs you could put a pole for lights in the inner one...

Excellent sounds couple. I love your Presunos gears. Wow, indeed. What is the length of the stage? 40 feet? Your many gears carried in that "small" van is like "magic." You remind me of a short film long time ago of a very small car and around 20 clowns came out of it. Thumbs up to you both. I just subscribed to your channel which I just came across while ago today. I want to follow and learn more from you both. You both are a great team.

Rf today is a very worrying part of the audio because the frequency spectrum is very polluted and you have to pay special attention if not given it brings a lot of interference! Have you ever thought about making a SUB CARDIODE arrangement? oh in the specific case of this event ... Congratulations on the event, the show was top! gave a charm to the part the mix in the presonus was Show ,,,, happy new year and who next year come more lives!

that daw recording sounded really good. if you do that more in the future. grab a pair of rode m5's or something similar and the mic the crowd. that'd be fun to sprinkle in the mix. 🤙

Thanks for the fun gig log! It was a lot dealing with all that noise. Your gifs displayed the frustration nice and silently. Had me giggle. How is that lighting controller working out for you? Have you considered looking into something like Obsidian Onyx for your control? I feel it could create a much more cohesive and visually pleasing show. There were a lot of fun colors, but I felt it looked a lot like my old gigs (rainbow pukey), where there was just a lot going on, but not sure exactly where I was going. Maybe it'll help you. Keep the good work up.

If you care about the phase of the subs and tops. I would consider purchasing some basic audio measurement rig. A good starting point is the Behringer ECM8000 measurement microphone and some basic at least 2CH audio interface capable of providing phantom power for the mic. Then you can use 2CH FFT analyzer software like Smaart (paid), OpenSoundMeter (opensource), or REW (basic version free) to phase align speakers. Of course, ears are important, but seeing the magnitude response and phase response of the system can help understand better what's going on. It is a helper in optimizing the system. And when it comes to subwoofer placement, there are calculators which can help with it. One of them is SAD (Subwoofer Array Designer) created by Merlin van Veen. I use it pretty often to optimize the low-end coverage. It has quite good documentation with the basic theory needed for that. Keep up the good work, I really like your videos.

Another fabulous production! Mark King of Level 42 did a pretty good job of being the lead singer and playing bass, and Sting wasn't that shabby either. The harnonica sounded like it was distorting/clipping, was that just overloading the microphone or was the channel gain too high?

In this most excellent video, among many lessons, we also get to watch Bart in his role of “Under-Stage Wanderer.” At least this time it was on grass and not gravel. The Sound Couple shares with us some important and very helpful information regarding the proper use of subs and the advantage of using PreSonus SL Room Control to test making adjustments to various parameters-even if a return to “normal” seems the best. And, we get to see a very well-designed mobile stage with plenty of power, good work lights, and lots of room. Though it does require a very high lift from ground level. Be sure to notice how much gear that Stacy and Bart have loaded into their van. Wow! Locating the main speakers on this very high stage does make it a bit easier than normal to place the speakers without having so much of an upward stretch. Once again, Bart shows us the value of using quality cables. This time, it’s Cat5 cables with Neutrik connectors. And, he emphasizes the value of the Neutrik adapters, as well. Thoughtful production crews always emphasize safety. Bart illustrates this as he runs cables underneath the stairs. Bart has to dive in to help the band solve a wireless interference problem. Could it be the proximity of a cell phone? Perhaps. As the band begins the performance, they have to complete with races literally next door. But, The Sound Couple has the system tuned just right. We also get to see the use of a PreSonus 64S as a DAW to mix a recording of the band. The results are very impressive. And, Bart shares some on-screen captions to give us insights into the way he is mixing the raw recording into a more finished product. No autotune here! Finally, as darkness falls the racing ends and the fair-goers begin to rock out with the band. Sweet. Thanks to Bart and Stacy for letting us watch and learn from this gig. This is definitely a video that merits several viewings.

hey guys! just got a question. don't you losses a lot of low end by setting the subs on top of the stage???

Hey if you and i were ever to run sound somewhere we'd be the Simpsons! Bart and Homer! HAAA!!

Looks like an older, but in great shape Wenger Showmobile stage trailer. Where was Stacy when I was doing live sound and lights??!!! She’s a worker!!!!

Any tips on the presonus studiolive 16.0.2 usb digital mixer

Right away, wave cancellation warnings go off in my head over putting the subs on that tall stage… I ’ve stopped doing that and stand-mount my mid-high speakers. It cleans up line of sight for the players on stage (me and my bandmates) as well.

Question: What mics are you using for overheads? Because I notice there is only a little bleed for toms and snare which is very great. Or what is your setup for overheads? Thanks!

Do you do stereo or panning in this setup?

The life of audio on the road is very good, but when you have to face these types of obstacles, go up stairs, lift material above your shoulder, my God, it is tiring and very ,,, sometimes even discouraged, but obstacles are made to be overcome and generate experience and besides, after everything is assembled, the pleasure of seeing the work done pays off!

9:55 with the height advantage of the stage, I wouldn't have used the pole(s) I would have stacked the tops onto the sub! With the 20+ yrs. experience that I have in production, I would never use a speaker pole for the lights at the edge of the stage without sand bag(s), that's a liability! 25:00 Use SmaartLive and a measuring microphone to set your delay points. Definitely need to invest in some cable ramps (yellow Jackets) and gaffer tape.

How do you get that super clear crystal sound from the mic. This is amazing. Keep doing this job you are awsome.

OMG. I Don’t know where that is, but I’ve done a show or two there.

Do you use some kind of auto-gain function when doing soundcheck? Was pretty fast despite having to fiddle around with a pen and clicking through submenus :D

If I were to do sound at a place like this I would put all the subs on the ground and 1 pairs of highs on the ground on a pole and then another pair on tripods on the stage pointing away from the front more like to the side

I'm sorry if you already explained this somewhere else, but could you tell us what headphone setup you use and if there's any special workflow you use it while mixing?

Do bands use their own in-ear monitoring systems, or do you supply them?

Do you guys have any videos and tips on the Presonus Studiolive 16.0.2 ?

Wouldnt you rather color code cabling at leaving knots in them will damage the cables?

The angles of the tops are a bit insane top box is basically pointing at the sky descent point source boxes might be better if your not normally flying your pa

Hi Bart, There is no wrong answer to this question. I noticed you put the stage box under the stage to feed the subs. You could have just run a single XLR instead. Is there a reason you chose to run the stage box to that location?

I love porta-stages! I see you put some space between center/ground bass bins, where as I couple subs so they’re almost touching each other…now I’m wondering if it really matters?

God bless 🙏🏻

Are you mixing out of S1 for the performance? If so, what block and buffer sizes? (And average round trip latency?)

RF is a pain sometimes. Always good to try and coordinate gear ahead of time. When bands show up and there are RF issues it is always a challenge and almost always it's with their gear. Most of the time it's because the bans just have a bunch of wireless gear stacked together with no Antenna distro. If your gonna use a bunch of wireless gear you should always use an antenna distro and coordinate your frequencies.

5:05 - Please let me that you took a break and participated in the cereal eating contest!!! ;)

Just wondering, why did you decide to put the subs on the stage with a stage that high?

hi from venezuela

If you're going to use wireless for anything in a live sound reinforcement setting, trust me: 2.4 gHz is the way to go.. it's a much stronger signal than 5gHz, so there is less chance of drop outs or interference. it might be a crowded space, but 5 GHz is just as crowded nowadays and a much weaker signal. But personally, I will always choose wired over wireless for speakers and subs. I'm okay with wireless DMX for lighting rigs tho. Never had a problem with those! constructive criticism: those front fill subs need to be coupled. ie: side-by-side without any gaps in between. Should give at least a 3-6db boost in bass. And get them out from under the stage! Front and center! Also, I would look into adding a 4th sub.. that way, you can use a cardioid arrangement if the subs support that configuration.. it might seem counterintuitive to have the subs opposing one another (2 subs facing outward and the other 2 directly behind and facing inwards--ie 180° out of phase with their coupled partner).. a cardioid configuration will further extend your bass while providing bass rejection in the direction of the stage..BUT and important consideration is to first check that the subs support a cardioid config. .. I didn't really see that option in the configuration app you were using; but it might be upsetting buried in another page. the configuration you have now means that your base is emanating in a fairly uniform omnidirectional pattern so lots of energy is being sent (aka lost) towards the band and sides.. a cardioid array would redirect the bass energy out towards the crowd, while reducing the bass in the rear ... But at the bare minimum, I would couple those 3 subs that you already have (so they behave as 1), and bring them out in front of the stage--being covered by the stage is negatively affecting their efficiency.. reflections, absorption, cancellation..ya know, the audio engineer's arch enemy! Basically you'll lose a lot of acoustic energy in the floor of that stage...energy that could be better directed towards the audience. I applaud your digital mixing approach. I'm guessing you've got the band all connected through the typical analog cables on stage, but using CAT 5/6 cables to transport the signal to your mixing console? Dante..? As a note, I was called to run a gig during the Toronto International Film Festival on very short notice this last summer, and had the opportunity to chat with a keyboard player in a 2 person band that was using Cubase to augment the vocalist with some basic processing and autotune. personally, auto-tune is something I have concerns over (as with most engineers) but in the end, it is a decision for the band to make.. its not something I would offer up, but also something I wouldn't refuse to use. if it helps the band perform better--by giving them that little jolt of confidence just knowing they is that safety net, I'm all for it. And frankly, live autotune will only be able to correct so much before ultimately destroying the dynamics of a vocal mix. The technology for low latency DAW's and plugin integration in live sound is here to stay, and as engineers, we have to adapt...autotune, drum augmentation, effects processing is all becoming an integral part of the job.. in the age of Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish--imagine a live performance from one of them without heavy processing would be a disaster! I draw the line at a lip syncing track tho. If a performer wants that piped out to the main mix, they're on their own.. (hasn't happened to me yet, but I've heard stories from colleagues).. But goddamn, you guys have a fun life. I do lighting and sound at a nightclub in Toronto ... and even though it's a club, and people are meeting new potential life partners all over the place, being the lead sound and lighting tech definitely leads to a lonely life.... geez, I never even considered that I could find a partner that shared my love of the craft or at the very least, put up with the ridiculous hours and schedule this industry demands... #lifegoals lol New subscriber, right here.

why do I have a sudden craving for fresh cinnamon donuts?

it is sometimes interesting to see how they work in other countries. I work in a state organization and we usually serve all visiting artists. it's a lot of trouble. it's much easier when artists travel with their staff. And yes, I'm from Russia. because of the sanctions, we have to wait a little longer for our musical equipment.

Hello friends. How do you deal with latency while in Daw mode?

loved this! pretty cool! what's your opinion on EV? ( Electro-Voice )

Tetris van wow…..💪👍

man, if you wanna dig deep into sub placements, Dave Rat is working on a series of videos on different sub arrays that is very much worth the watch! listening to that overhead, it sounds like it's high passed to like 1k... is that just how that mic naturally sounds, or have you done that on purpose?

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You should try to use a matrix processor so you can have it for you middle subs, fills, mains, etc and is useful and the 31st it looks like rain coming for me and I gotta prepare for it oh and lifting those cdl subs up that stage looks hard and maybe you should put all subs in middle and have cdl on poles like the tough crank stands and soon I’m upgrading my subs to 15” and newer 12” tops and the xlrs you use I think you should grab newer cables from Pro snake on Thomann if your xlrs has issues and the processor on thomann too that is the dsp 408 and the announcement drives me crazy a little lol oh and that bass I could feel it with the subwoofers 😅

How many subs did you use and is that 18"?

1 tip if you change the polarity of the Subs youre getting phasing. just leave them at normal polarity. if youre turning one Bass ok. but then you have to Delay the other. if ou driving Cardiod Setup for the Bass well you need to switch the polarity and delay the turned Bass

I realize this is 11 months past but your subs Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi extender if they are 2.4 ghz and if the band’s wireless mic and in ears are 2.4ghz too then your stuff was probably over powering their stuff. I have a cheap in ear that uses 2.4ghz it is so robust that it will knock out other 2.4 wifi systems.

Dang, who played the keyboards.......nice hammond organ on the background.

god job

Haii.. see you next year 2023 hehehe

Was it yours or the drummers choice to. mic the toms up with D112s?