Those are memories, why would that be so profound. How we function and think will always transcend time and space unless something happens to us at a physical level. There's nothing profound about it at all at any distance with love and anything else. The movie never mentioned anything with the plot being about gravity/distance effecting emotions and shouldn't either.
Almost a decade old and content creators still find exciting stuff to talk about this film (just this week we had Looper, Alan Tsai, and this from Beeyond Ideas). Christopher Nolan et al gave us a gift that keeps on giving.
My problem with Nolan's movies is with the praise they get for "scientific accuracy". They get one or two aspects right, but in the end they still are "brain to peg" entertainment. As, when you start thinking too much, there is WHAT??? all the time.
I love our universe's barriers and laws. Its like something made it that way so we don't break the laws of our universe. Keeping us and all other intelligent creatures suppressed.
I always think of Maze Runner....laws of Nature and physics are like the Maze and we are at the centre of Maze trying to explore the vast. Trying to go beyond. Simply not that easy 😞
Interstellar movie is purely scientific and Physicists helped to make this movie accurate but then also people never talk about the possibility of all paranormal activity around the world is actually 5 dimensional interference as shown in this movie ("you were my Ghost ", Astronaut daughter lines ")
I believe the Timelapse is a little bit wrong: @ 7:52 I spotted 5 seconds to the left and 6: 05: 04: 06 to the right, which corresponds to 6 days and 5h04min and 6 seconds. Well, let’s admit the 5 seconds are almost 6 in the left (we never know) and let’s admit that 1.25 secs in the left correspond, in the limit, to 22 hours in the right , on Earth (I used 22 hours instead of the 21 hours showed before because it’s an obvious extrapolation to a higher number) So in the end, 5 seconds to the left would be 88hours to the right (4x 22 hours, the same as 4x 1.25secs equals 5 secs to the left), and 1 more second to complete 6 to the left (in the limit) would be less then 22 hours to the right, but still: 88 + 22 would equal 110 hours to the right, which is obviously less then 6 full days in our time - in fact, that’s less then 5 days if you think about it! Note that all the numbers I used are extrapolations that would contribute to make the time elapsed on Earth (right) even higher than the correspondence calculated in the video and, even though, for almost (but not) 6 seconds on the left one could never get 6 full days on the right, as depicted @ 7:52 !
As a layman, this reminds me of the observer effect. It's as if the universe is more willing to manipulate time than your perception. Or, that its willing to change time ad post hoc, if it maintains your reality. This reminds me of waves collapsing into particles just by looking at them.
In principle it's possible for a Earth-like planet to not be pulled apart by the tidal forces of a black hole near the event horizon as long as the black hole is large enough. However, such a planet would be awfully cold unless it was warmed by a nearby star or the black hole's accretion disk. A star is unlikely, because so close to a black hole its Hill sphere would be too small to allow the planet to orbit in a habitable zone, but an accretion disk would not work either because of the copious X-rays emitted and because large objects tend to get smashed, pulled apart and reduced to a plasma in such an environment.
Interstellar movie is purely scientific and Physicists helped to make this movie accurate but then also people never talk about the possibility of all paranormal activity around the world is actually 5 dimensional interference as shown in this movie ("you were my Ghost ", Astronaut daughter lines ")
@@rahulprakaash3350 That's just PR. Most of it is theory at best. Wormholes for example do not make travel possible, because guess what: you need something of an extreme like a Black Hole to MAYBE create them (it's pure theory), but even then the forces involved would rip absolut everything apart, even more because even in theory the size of the worm hole you maybe could create would be incredible small, like trying to push a truck through a key hole. The time dilation is by far the worst part anyway, because even if you ignore that such an extreme would rip the planet apart (since the dilation is coming from the black hole, not from the planet, so the planet itself is just shredderd by this massively differing time dilation), what the hell is the point to land on such a hellhole in the first place? One year on this planet are over 60.000 years on earth. There is absolute zero way to use that planet to save humankind in any way, even if it would be paradise itself.
Because the relative speed between the planet and the astronauts is 0 to start with. They are both in free fall towards the black hole. Thinking about the 0 gravity training, how we create 0 gravity is to let the plane fly to a certain altitude then let it free fall. That’s how we create 0 gravity. Same here.
The gravity isn't coming from the planet, but the black hole - and would shred the planet by the time dilation alone. The fiction about it is, that the black hole is spinning so fast, that it creates time dilation by gravity but without gravity. The whole thing is just stupid though, even if you ignore all the physical nonsense, since why would you even try to land on such a planet? It's absolutely worthless by that time problem alone.
I'm still lost and nowhere near understanding time dilation. They're on Millers planet for a relatively (no pun intended) short time, a couple of hours, but when they go back up to dock with Endurance and see Rom, 23 years have gone by?!?!
I still don’t get it either. It just doesn’t make any sense for some reason because time should go by at the same rate for everyone right that’s why it’s usually the independent variable in graphs
Still disagree with that explanation. 1 - "Loss of energy" could occur equally with frequency or amplitude. 2 - Is energy "lost" because of the light traveling in free space? If so, it is most probably it's amplitude decreasing, by a factor that is the area of the beam of light spreading. 3 - Gravitational redshift in space mostly occurs from space-time dilation. 4 - The method to "prove" time dilation is erroneous. I could do the same on earth with sound and a doppler effect. On the contrary, two planets with the same time reference could see each other with a redshift due to space dilation in between if they are far enough.
one thing doesn't make sense to me, for the characters on the planet and the last crew member in the spaceship. physically aged faster while those on the ground were there for a few minutes
Time dilation question. Instead of saying lets meet in 25 years from now, we agree we are both 20 years old today and we both agree to meet up when we both turn 45 years old even if one of use is traveling at the speed of light. You can be the observer since perspective is so inportant. Is that possible?
When you are traveling through time, Are you really suppose to see the exact reality moving forward/backwards? What images will be constructed visually if you are able to see when you are stuck in that time dimension?
you can only see reality move backwards once you travel faster than light, but this has nothing to do with time dilation. you can also experience a time phenomen and observe the past when you watch the stars. many of those stars on your night sky don't exist anymore, but because photons "only" travel with 300'000'000m/s, stars so far away that even light needs hours/days/years to reach earth, you still see the star alive until the "update" (a sudden stop of the continuous stream of "light" earlier emitted by the star) reaches your eyes and the star isn't there anymore. but again, this has nothing to do with time dilation, but also with "time" by being able to see into the past.
Understand we do not see time as it is, we only see time as it was because our brain does not process reality instantaneously. Our brain is always playing catch up with reality. You have already done things before you have experienced them. However you have no memory of it because it takes time for your brain to construct a memory and it also takes energy. Our electric impulses that are responsible for thought and movement do not move at the speed of light despite being electric because it must move through matter. Energy and light moves slower through objects than it does through a vacuum. Sound waves also move even slower than electricity and light. Much slower actually which is why you typically see lightening before hearing the thunder unless the lightning strike is less than say 800 yards away. So you see it is not possible for the brain to witness reality as it's actually happening because it functions too slowly Understand it is because of light we are able to experience reality. Think about it like this in order for you to navigate through space here on earth your brain must process the space. It then must navigate your body through the space so you do not bump into things and hurt yourself. All that takes time and we know time waits for no one. We can only react to what we see however what we see already was as I already said our reactions take time and while we are taking the time to react another action has already occurred and time just keeps moving along.
Good video. Time dilation is only a subjective perception in your point of reference. Of course gravity will affect biological functions, shuttle equipment and electromagnetic waves that will make clocks go slower, reactions taking more time or boldly functions to work at a slower pace but the extreme difference from interstellar is impossible. If everything is affected by gravity I don't think there is a way to keep watches in space synchronized with the ones closer to a gravitational field without corrections. Also depending on your speed in the same gravitational field, if you run away from another person, you should see him aging slower than you ( but it is just a perception because you are racing the photons ), but when you change course and run back to that person he will age much faster so when you are back at the start point your age and the other person's are the same as if you had spent the time not moving. it is like speeding a movie clip. When you run away video slows down and if you run back to the reference the video speeds up. If you change the gravitational fields, the one who ages faster is the one closer to it but...the difference is very very very very very very very very very very very small. So if you want to live longer go into outer space but you will gain more life points if you get rid of your "Karen" wife any your abusive job.
@@mrmoose1599 None of us can say that for sure :), but gravity or lack of, does affect chemical reactions, bodily functions that may affect your ageing process...or may make you sick...don't know...but the discussion was about time. Anyway my input is just speculation. :)
@@CiprianTRK we can be sure there are too many factors involved to say it’s not just this or that. Like gravity. We have tested time dilation so we know it does and biology didn’t. So there’s that
@@mrmoose1599 Indeed there are to many variables that affect biology in gravity ~0 that is why NASA developed Astrobiology, Bioastronautics, and Space Bioprocess Engineering to study these effects. All I say is that time dilation is a matter of perspective. What is shown in the movie, when the astronauts come back to the ship and find the colleague much older...that is impossible or...I am not convinced it is how it works. BUT if the effects are as mentioned in the movie the only difference is gravity and speed. Speed does not really affect the aging process but gravity could make you function differently and may be make you age slower or faster depending on how high or how low is the gravity you are in. In gravity 0 the Heart beats with less effort, the microorganisms in your body act different, some fluids may not react as expected, even the blood is not pooling in your legs as usual. SO if we age different in outer space it is because gravity, or lack of it.
@@CiprianTRK I don’t think you understand relativity or time dilation. It’s not just a perspective. This dilation actually happens. Time is measured movement in space. So gravity and speed change that movement. Finding out that light is constant lets us plug a value into the equation. Just like in math if you get enough info you can do math and finish finding the other values. I do agree that there is a degree in which gravity and speed do affect biology but not the sole reason for age. If it was we surely would notice at our rates. Don’t conflate age and time. Science has distinguished them apart from each-other. It’s in the math and limits of the universe
Imagine speeding away from the earth at the speed of light with a pair of binoculars that could focus in on people on the ground, they wouldn’t be moving, now imagine you go faster than the speed of light and can still focus on the same people, they would appear to be moving backwards in time. The faster you go the faster they should be moving backwards in time but time doesn’t change for either one of you in my opinion only the perception of what you can see.
black holes are black because something inside is moving the speed of light. If you were to travel the speed of light, i think all you would see travelling at the speed is black. Space is black we are inside a black hole. Everything that was and is was recycled from somewhere, a previous universe i dont know, that information came from somewhere. Off topic i know. I love blackholes
Since the center of the time dilation isn't the planet itself but the Black Hole, such an extrem would crumble the planet like a cookie. Even if you ignore this: it's suicidal insane to land on such a planet in the first place. What's the point? There is no way that you could even use that hellhole for humans. Imagine trying to colonize it -- over the timeline of hundredthousands of years, since 1 hour on the planet is 7 years everwhere else, so 1 year on the planet = 61.320 years on earth.
@@mrmoose1599 OP is asking what if your feet were nearer to the source of gravity than your head, and therefore would those different areas of your body be out of synch with each other.
But what about body clock. I will never get time travel. I think its wrong concept. Because you are just traveling fast but you body keep exact time like other person wherever he or she is...
Gravity on earth is 9.8m/s^2. For a time dilation of 7 years passing on earth for every 1 hour passing on a planet, that planet's gravity would have to be like a sextillion m/s^2. If you're unfamiliar with big numbers, it goes million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion. If you stepped into gravity that strong, you would most certainly be killed instantaneously, and to an observer it would probably look like you just disappeared.
I wish if you had read the book written by Kip Thorne about the science behind the movie. There are much more detailed explanations in that book. Including on the Miller planet.
Can someone explain to me the huge time dilation between the astronauts on Miller's planet and the astronaut that stayed on the ship? It doesn't make sense to me.
You measure a second to be a specific distance over speed. When you change gravity or accelerate the clock them measure gets altered so we have a dilated time. It’s just a measure phenomenon
How was the gravity on the planet interfered by the black hole? Shouldn’t the people feel a lot of gravity or little depending on the orientation to the black hole?
My question relates to the 23 years experienced by the ship in orbit. If it was orbiting like a satellite orbits earth, then it would be closer to the black hole once per orbit and hence experience time slower than those on the planet right? So i guess it was i geosynchronus orbit? You'd think they'd have calculated a grosync orbit off to the side so as to have the whole team experience the passage of time the same??
@@Ryan-gx4ce no, time as a whole doesn't exist at all. It's just the illusion of perception of movement. If you could "stop freeze" our galaxy and every single particle in it, the "time" would stop. No movement no time.
@@burtininkas so your argument is "if we lived in a hypothetical universe different than our own time can be a perception." To which I would agree with your hypothetical. But that's not our universe you are describing so I don't see how it's relevant
how is it you think the JW telescope is going to demonstrate that you're smarter than Einstein by not accepting time dilation, and why don't you in the first place?
That’s different, because the days are referenced to the planet in our question…one rotation of the planet. In the scene they are using the Earth day as a unit of measure.
I cannot grasp the idea of this I think time is relative no matter how big or small of a planet you’re on or how close to a black hole it is, perception is the difference no human being could survive on a planet that large you wouldn’t be able to stand or move.
It amazes me what people postulate will happen when we toss physics limitations out. Time and age are separate concepts and measures. Time dilates but not age.
It really show how brilliant Einstein. I don’t know about anyone else but the theory of relativity is kind of a hard concept to grasp now, back in the day Einstein must of sounded insane when he first thought of this 😂
Very interesting, also the comments here, and I want to comment appreciat. Even not being a physicist, J Winius comment sounds plausible to me: "In principle it's possible for a Earth-like planet to not be pulled apart by the tidal forces of a black hole near the event horizon as long as the black hole is large enough. However, such a planet would be awfully cold unless it was warmed by a nearby star or the black hole's accretion disk. A star is unlikely, because so close to a black hole its Hill sphere would be too small to allow the planet to orbit in a habitable zone, but an accretion disk would not work either because of the copious X-rays emitted and because large objects tend to get smashed, pulled apart and reduced to a plasma in such an environment."
well depends on how they experience that gravity it may be possible who knows but since we can't even send a person to mars yet I wouldn't worry about us getting someone near a black hole to experience that sort of time dilalation
@@raven4k998 well yea actually. We do smart ass. Satellites undergo time dilation. So we set their clocks to run faster than ours. That way once they undergo time dilation their second lines up with our second. GPS satellites do this, otherwise, they go out of sync over time and your location would be wrong
Time dilation is about nothing else but the relative rate of aging of matter at different speeds. It is not about time slowing down. Time slowing down does not make any sense. It's meaningless! Time (if it exists at all) or, in other words, the sequence of events (that happen only once, at one moment and place in the cosmos) is absolute; this is what Lawrence Krauss told me some time ago. The relativity of simultaneity simply states that we can never know, in any frame of reference, the true, absolute sequence of events that underpin the universal 'flow of time'. Maybe, 'Spaceaging' woud be a more appropriate word than 'Spacetime'!
For a 5 year old Christmas is 1/5 of their life. It seems to take forever. For 40 year old that same time frame is 1/40th of their life. Why the years pass so fast the older we get. Perception is everything
For sufficiently large black hole, like gargantuan in the movie, things not get torn apart or spaghetti fide near the event horizon, or even at the event horizon. Person could cross the event horizon of a super massive black hole and nothing much would change for them. They wouldn't even know it. Your comment about being torn apart near the event horizon is only for a stellar mass black hole, a very small one. Not one like gargantuan which is billions of solar masses. If you're going to make a RU-vid video criticizing the physics of movie, you should have your understanding correct.
It's more like being on a subway when it's moving. You're moving with the black hole relative to the planet you're on, hence the massive tidal wave being affected by the black hole gravity.
Only thing I can think of is that Miller's planet is close to Gargantua so I guess gravity from the black hole works on Miller's like our Moon affects waves here on Earth or something like that. No scientist or anything, just a guess that I just came up with lol
I guess 3 feet of water is because of the strong tide that pulled huge amount of water toward this large wave leaving only those 3 feet before its getting submerged again by the coming wave
We don't even need to go in outter space tl realize time is relative once you everything ceases to exist JUST for the person that died to everybody else times moves along like normal
I still dont get it . Time in all space , condition , place is still the same . If clock ticking slow due to low of gravity in other place , when u come to earth u might go to future but it doesnt mean it because the gravity effect . It because the distance that you took from that place going back to the earth that take time . For example it took you 7 years go to planet A from earth , and you comeback to earth 7 years again . Total youve travelled 14years . Is that make sense ? 🤔
What do you mean you're an AI from the year 21xx ? What the heck, why give us a fechnical explanation and then throw that at us? What are we supposed to believe ?
so speed of time is a thing? the only reason this concept is rejected is because someone made an assumption/conclusion (maybe they have their own basis ) that this is how (referring to speed) each counting, counts. then everyone agreed to it. then braindeadly made it an universal rule. now we are thinking there's no such thing as speed of time, because time is a constant already because the way it was counted (refers to speed again) was already set as universal thing and standard thing. aye philosophically each counting on everything could always be counted , but does the speed of counting is the same? well for now yes, someone set bars on it already then we all agreed to it, now it's universally applied as a constant thing.
and if they do have basis on it, (maybe gravity) or some planetary revolution around the sun or any variable. those variables would always be different on every unirversal body. then i it for sure can't be applied to the whole universe
In real life, Relativity DECLARES light is constant to your eyes ONLY, then it changes (transforms) the other numbers like length, mass, and time, in order to make that true on paper. It is not observed to be true, AND the NON-transformed reality IS STILL THERE. It's not like observations don't make sense, and Relativity fixes that on paper. Observation looks normal, and Relativity creates psycho on paper. It says that if you move your head, the entire Universe INSTANTLY changes shape along that axis JUST FOR YOU! If light is not constant to your eyes, then there is no need to transform the numbers, but they don't want that to happen. In short, time don't exist, and Relativity makes it adjustable.
Morethan 5000 years ago, vedas in India mentioned time dilation in Srimad Bhagavatam, devi bhagavatam. While they were mentioned these scripts in stories that any normal kid would understand, they were thrashed just by saying, it is all myth and termed it as mythology. It is not a myth, but they are facts Until some western country discover the facts and creates a documentary or a movie or Einstein to come and explain we don't want to believe
Given this is true, what about the cosmological time dilation for an observer at the beginning of the universe. Does this concept hold water? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FIVERgzzJCY.html
0:22 This planet obviously has a similar gravity to Earth. Although the planet is apparently close to the black hole, it can still fly from the ship to the planet and bag again without issue. That is proof that they are experiencing similar gravitational forces. Didn’t the dude age like 7 years for every hour they spend on the planet? If they are experiencing the same gravitational forces as us on Earth, why don’t our astronauts age 7 years for every hour that goes by on Earth? So apparently they are in s “super strong gravity well” on the planet and the dude is in a location of minimal gravity not far away. However the fck that works 😂 Anyway. There would be a massive escape velocity to get from that “massive gravity well” to the minimal gravity the dude is experiencing. Has to be a large fraction of the speed of light. They aren’t that far from dude. So, 1) How the fck did that bullshit craft reach fractions of the speed of light to overcome the gravitational pull that is strong enough to make dude age seven years for every hour they age and 2), if you can answer that, how the fck did they slow down from a large fraction of the speed of light that it took to overcome the “massive gravity well” and stop in time to dock with the ship.
@@r3b3lvegan89 but time only exist in our universe , outside universe there is no time, it make sense what bible says , It doesn't mean 1000 years definitely =1 day, it rather mean time here and time outside is not same
@@Altseasun you need to prove there is an "outside the universe" and that "time only exists in our universe". Those are two claims unsupported by evidence
This is not new for me as a muslim as our prophet Muhammad tell us 14000 years ago when he visits haven and he spend day or so there and when he come back his pillow was still warm so thats why im proud to be muslim and islam is true religion
1 day in heaven is equal to a thousand years on earth. Dont believe me but believe on the Al-qur'an that was written 1400 years ago. We muslim already know that. Read it and tou will find other magnificent physic that was forseen and already proven
