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The SCJ Spy Unmasked: Playing 'Leaf' to Influence New Bible Study 'Fruit' 

Wendi Renay
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Chris is a former member of Shincheonji, a group that shares many similarities with the Jehovah Witnesses. Due to the similarities between the Jehovah Witnesses and another Korean cult named "World Mission Society Church of God", he eventually discovered that what Shincheonji was teaching wasn't the truth, and left the high demand group.
#SCJ #Shincheonji #exjw
JW article mentioned: www.jw.org/en/library/magazin...

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@ANGEL-eh6pd
@ANGEL-eh6pd 6 месяцев назад
I enjoyed your interview with this former SCJ member.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 I am a former member of the World Mission Society Church of God, and I've recently left 7 weeks ago after being trapped in there for 18 months day and night. I understand how difficult it is to deconstruct your life after such an ordeal. There are 3 miillion members in in WMSCOG in 175 countries and the number is growing rapidly. I never realized how many cults there are out there until I went on the internet to do my own research on the wmscog. I only wish, that I did more research on the internet at the beginning, however, we were frowned down on going on the internet. I was told, that Heavenly Moher would cry and have a broken heart if I ate from the tree of knowledge and not of the tree of life. I and I did not want to die Spiritually. I guess I'm not the only one who was brainwashed in this world. Thank you once again for this video. I'm going to subscribe to your channel for sure.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😮😮😮😅.
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake Год назад
That was super interesting. I think this is the group that was proselytizing at university campuses in NZ. My daughter saved her best friend from being sucked in because she was aware of the cult recruitment tactics, after our recent departure from the jws.. I think a factor that enabled me to be so easily indoctrinated into the jws was that I was caught off guard. I think that because I had already been brought up with a respect for the bible and religious authority figures, I couldn't possibly imagine that my bible study conductor, and the GB, would be lying to me. Your guests experience shows how his former group blatantly employed deception and coercion...These are just not things you would expect from Christians! I know better now. I was young and naive back then.
@phil6740
@phil6740 Год назад
Great video. I particularly enjoyed hearing Chris analysis on jws. The words that hit close to home- deception, gaslight, strawman, obey the wise servant. Very articulate!
@timpgpilot2530
@timpgpilot2530 Год назад
"Nothing new under the sun" 😎 Great interview Wendi and thanks again for your work.
@WendiRenay
@WendiRenay Год назад
Hi Tim, thank you so much !!:)
@Jay-yp3oq
@Jay-yp3oq Год назад
Thanks, Chris and Wendi! I tell other PiMOs that struggle with whether it is the truth to write down why it isn't the truth. This seems to help many ppl. The 12 Tribes cult is in the JW Territory that I live in. We used to make fun of them as JDUBS but now I just feel bad for them. See you next time.
@Lovealwayswins1
@Lovealwayswins1 Год назад
Love it Wendi thank you! Hope you’re healing living an amazing life….. wishing you the best!
@justinporter458
@justinporter458 Год назад
One thing all cults have in common they use a book called the Bible. The Bible the greatest cult Manuel ever written, still pulling the Wool of the sheep's eyes . Justin Porter ex jw ❤️
@NicoleW_TeamJesus
@NicoleW_TeamJesus Год назад
There is only one true living Bible of the Living GOD and the only way to get to him is through the Son JESUS. JESUS 100%man 100%GOD. GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SON GOD THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT. HE IS NOT THE ARC ANGEL. No harm intended God save our souls ☝️🙌🙏🙏🙏
@missmichelex
@missmichelex Год назад
That’s my friend Chris! Great job 👏🏻
@iqdog
@iqdog Год назад
Hes my friend too!
@TechyBen
@TechyBen Год назад
"Parable dictionary and parable injections redefining works". WOW. I noticed the same thing with the JWs "The Finished Mystery" 7 volumes (around 3500 pages) back in the 1900s. I'd never have stayed in as a JW kid if we'd been allowed to read our "old" books.
@davidgrounds2168
@davidgrounds2168 Год назад
Very interesting stuff. I was approached by this group, and googling for information led me to your channel and this interview. Thanks for what you do.
@PinoyMN
@PinoyMN Год назад
It is fascinating to hear the experiences of fellow former cult members. When I was a Witness (defected at 19 in 1998), several elders in my congregations regularly made unfavorable comments about the Mormons. This was in Hawai'i, where both organizations have a strong presence, and outsiders often confused the two. It seemed unfair on the elders' part, since it is unlikely they knew anything substantive about Mormons. But their reactions are akin to behavior known as "bully-victiming": when those who are targeted find others to target, perhaps to grasp some semblance of power. "We may be (negative adjective), but at least we are not them" goes the thinking. A few years after I left and came out of the closet, I realized that I possessed some "hangover" from my Witness upbringing. One night at a gay bar, I met both an ex-Mormon and an ex-Mennonite. The three of us compared our cult notes, and some of that competitive dynamic emerged, but in reverse: our game involved determing whose religious experience was worse! We quickly saw the folly and comic value of the exchange, bonded over our shared pasts, and reflected on our growth (all three of us were well adjusted, graduated college, and were embarking on promising careers). I wonder if there are others with similar experiences...
@SCJSkeptic
@SCJSkeptic Год назад
Great interview Chris and Wendi! Keep up the good work 🥰
@WendiRenay
@WendiRenay Год назад
Thanks so much!
@daleprice8111
@daleprice8111 Год назад
KEEP AWAKE TO CULTS !
@daleprice8111
@daleprice8111 Год назад
THAT IS AMAZING; THE SIMILARITIES WITH JWs.
@nataliegrandauthorofcultgi1231
You look So beautiful Wendy. Love the lighting & makeup.
@rhelsyc
@rhelsyc 7 месяцев назад
an ex jw was explaining that the organization get their number of members by counting the new born babies ,unborn ones, adding those coming to assemblies whether baptized or not, oh, not forgetting those regularly attending to meetings. and as they realise many are leaving their community, they refrain from disfellowshipping eagerly as they used to do
@ibrandieshay
@ibrandieshay Год назад
I watched scientology & sister wives. I kept noticing the similarities, but stayed another 5 years. 😑
@WendiRenay
@WendiRenay Год назад
I did the same thing!
@daleprice8111
@daleprice8111 Год назад
MOST CULTS SEPARATE YOU FROM FAMILY AND INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. YOU CAN'T QUESTION THEIR BELIEFS BUT THEY QUESTION OTHERS BELIEFS.
@governingbodylanguage2025
@governingbodylanguage2025 Год назад
Okay. Back to some journaling for me. I had a special form of indoctrination apparently, because when that WT came out with "we are not inspired, etc" I was not surprised. (I was mentally out, too,) I had always been taught they were just men, but at the same time we have to follow them because they are God's organization. It's a double bind in your mind. I wonder if it was pounded into my dad* when he was in bethel. Also, I think I had "extra" of some teachings (we all have different experiences) because my parents didn't want the embarrassment of a child leaving the cult. Nope, they just got a child who was not a hypocrite like her dad and told on his non-elder behavior, AS HE TAUGHT ME. He caved and immediately "stepped down". (WTF is that term stepped down, if they are not to be elevated???) *Dad was more of an indoctrinating sperm donor. He provided a room, food, and clothing, and wt indoctrination. Parenting done as far as he was concerned. It was worse than being in an orphanage. An orphanage wouldn't necessarily force you into a cult! Probably more affection too.
@robbing8452
@robbing8452 Год назад
This was very interesting and entertaining. I studied with the jw for 3 years then ran fast from it. Unfortunately my best friend who got me interested in jw is still in 35 year later.
@iqdog
@iqdog Год назад
Send your friend this video!!
@daleprice8111
@daleprice8111 Год назад
I KNOW MANY WHO STILL IN CULT ; PRAY 🙏 FOR THEM TO SEE THE BIBLE TRUTH 🙏.
@robbing8452
@robbing8452 Год назад
@@iqdog I don’t want her to stop talking to me. She is blind to the truth. I just wait for a time when she will brake free. I will be there for her as I have since we were 5, and we are 62 now.
@Ava2969ny
@Ava2969ny Год назад
@Robbin G - What made you run? -- just curious to what the "bells and whistles" were for you.
@robbing8452
@robbing8452 Год назад
@@Ava2969ny headship, the man being the head of the household. I found it to be a very sexist group. I could not wrap my head around having to wear a dress or skirt as an unwritten rule. Not that I mean minded I just thought it was a stupid rule. And the fear of dying in a horrible way, always waiting for the end. The bs of, “we are the truth”! After 3 years of trying to believe I just called bs and walked away. No thank you I’ll die with the sinners. I have a difficult time being controlled, I had to many questions and they didn’t have answers that made sense to me. But for years I thought it was me not them, I was the problem. I didn’t realize until recently that they were a cult lol. I thought I just couldn’t see the truth, I didn’t have the gift of faith. It was watching RU-vid channels about Scientology that got me to understand I was studying with a cult!
@augiemusky
@augiemusky Год назад
The righteous lie - it’s spiritual warfare, so you are just using spiritual weapons. Oh, and they have their own JW definition of lying: giving a falsehood to someone who is entitled to know the truth. See that trick? If you are deemed as one not ENTITLED to the truth, it’s not lying!
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 Год назад
from Korea there is also a larger cult known as the Moonies :
@robbing8452
@robbing8452 Год назад
Only about 20,000 to 30,000 Scientologists in the world I think at last count. Per Mike Rinder
@paulconcadora9395
@paulconcadora9395 Год назад
Here's the real problem if anyone is interested in a religion, first eyes opening up is, if there's 2 of them and 1 of you, don't talk to them, be careful and scared, and if they want to study with you and you are alone, no way, because they are all dangerous criminals, I don't care who their own gods are, Jesus christ said no person is any good, except for one, which is God the almighty God, no one needs to be tought about God, he is the one who makes himself known to humans beings, great video thanks for sharing your video's, people are all dangerous,
@oliviawolcott8351
@oliviawolcott8351 Год назад
omg, he got flirty fished a la the Family.
@andyo5543
@andyo5543 Год назад
Please cover WMSCOG next!!
@iqdog
@iqdog Год назад
How come all the cults always have initials or acronyms?? LDS, JW, CCJW, SCJ, WMSCOG??!
@andyo5543
@andyo5543 Год назад
@@iqdog Because they're so disgusting they don't deserve the time it takes to write out their full name.
@95luannaable
@95luannaable Год назад
What is his RU-vid ?
@iqdog
@iqdog Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mg4udY9kW5U.html
@WendiRenay
@WendiRenay Год назад
I don’t think he has one yet, but stay tuned!
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
JEHOVAH is the TRUE God of PROPHECY ! WHAT HE FORETELLS COMES TO BE. his representatives have the attitudes he guides them in.. As with Jesus who cared that the 400 prophecies that were fulfilled in him ( especially remarkable are the ones he didn't participate in ..watching them come true must have been amazing !! See psalm 22:18) His attitude also was LET GOD BE TRUE THOUGH EVERY MAN A LIAR. ..When Jesus died and was raised.. Who was it God would use among men ? See rev 11. Note that rev 11:6 reveals something that was very surprising to me. But totally makes sense. Plagues cannot be anything other than detrimental in consequence.. Most social media channels lve seen are from ex witnesses who have been detrimentally affected from the harsh cold unfeeling policies of the Governing Body which are handed down through the congregation elders and circuit overseers.. Of course..the great number of channels on youtube alone ..aside from reddit etc etc..the ex witnesses have been enabled to gather together like clouds covering the land..quite something to see ..and by means of this ..many have been supportive to others who have experienced exactly the same kind of treatment or very similar. PLAGUES ! COMMUNITY online spoken of by Ezekiel when he spoke regarding Gogs final attack .(some Christian denominations consider Gog to be Russia..on a map it looks very much like that.. Don't take my word for it.. you can check that ..) When you look at what's happening in Russia ..could it be that because of the ban ..imprisonment and taking their properties is fulfillment of ezek 38..& the punishing of them in response..as they touched the apple of his eye ? Note the natural evidence spoken of in verses 20-22.
@WendiRenay
@WendiRenay Год назад
Hey… are you ok?
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
@@WendiRenay I'm good thanks.. Are you OK ?
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
Fascinating seeing prophecy being fulfilled.. I never really realised how it all works ..whst makes the GB hold on to their policies.. Was thinking earlier on..Jehoshaphat example was similar..Stand still and see thd salvation of Jehovah ! The two witnesses (an interesting title..reserved for the last days representatives of God..in the temple ! Remember..we ex witnesses ask for proof that they were appointed when the inspection took place in 1919.. So clever it is..therefore ..the answer from us exwitnesses..is " THEY PLACE THEMSELVES IN THE TEMPLE.. exactly as required to fulfill the scriptural criteria of the ANTI CHRIST../alternate Christ..and MOL. No wonder their activity is so questionable ..evil...from men's perspective. Amazing how it works out. Nobody is up for that gig..volunteering to be the ones that are hated.. Have you noticed more volcanic activity near where you are ?
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
@@WendiRenay Visited the British museum last week... Fascinating looking at artifacts from Ur ..where Iraq is today..you know all the artwork shows dark skinned people ..nothing like we see there now !! Broad noses ..fat lips..
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
@@WendiRenay Is your lustrous hair still that long ?
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