The Scummiest Content in Valorant 

the camera refocusing is a bit annoying lol good video tho

@@joonasu yeah Im fixing that on my next video :D

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Good Video! i saw this on reddit and now im a subscriber :)

Came here from Reddit actually HAHA

Honestly i know so many people who've skyrocketed in rank thanks to hooj's videos. Hes a godsend

@@menmaro I've skyrocketed from bronze to platinum in less than a month with his content.

@@RazorIsEpic yeah I went from silver to diamond 3 and climbing just through his content. Hes crazy good

@@menmaro didnt get anything from him guess im just not meant for fps games

@@gardyishere7265 are you trying?

He justifies it by saying its high demand thats why the price is high, but he shows people the coaching videos so that they can learn for free too... ????? Dudes a pro at selling snakeoil lmao

it is

@@menmaro also there's the fact that it's individual sessions, not long-term plans that other good coaches do (royalg, hoojin, among others). He's allergic to actually putting in effort and is trying to grift off of his clout alone

To be fair who cares.. not like he is forcing anyone to pay that price. People can spend money as they like.. people spend 175$ on an upgraded set of skins. As for the challenges, I could honestly care less as at the end of the day it is JUST A GAME. It's not that serious, and at least he isn't smurfing like the typical smurf. When you see his clips you only see the best clips he gets, not the average game he is playing. Reality is there is a reason why he has only gotten so high on his knife-only series and hasn't had much rank progession, and based on Riots algorithm he will rank where he fits in when using knife-only.

@@user-pc7js1xg3v i mean considering the quality of his free coaching his private is likely pre good

Imagine lebron james going to highschool basketball but je plays in a wheel chair

Honestly i would love that. Lots to learn from them.

people are mad at the smurfs but should really be mad at RIOT for not taking any stance whatsoever, and also having a Riot employee getting boosted by Yay (which was against TOS and bannable but nothing happened)

I guess thats the anwser riot themselves are boosted 😂

@@kingkase0079 i think that too, smurfing isnt too bad with a knife against golds.

the amazing part is that it's not irony, he literally does that

@@migssdz7287 yeah and if you don’t follow what he tells you he’ll end the coaching session early and tell you to come back once you do what he told you and since you’re not paying you don’t lose anything but some time and you get scolded by the banana man truly he is the best coach I’ve seen when he sees you doing wrong he tells you straight up when you do good he rewards you that’s what a coach should do and he does it perfectly while keeping it entertaining for viewers

Woohojin is the best improvement coach in val Fr fr

He's da best banana man on earth

@@Willy_Gee this bro this

Not playing properly? If they're playing properly, they just ruined other team experience and rr. they're not playing properly and still topfraging. Blame yourself, dont blame others. Just get better man, if you say that im just trash talking just come to sg server there are so many smurfer in silver elo that's playing "PROPERLY".

@@hidr428 maybe he means if jollz while deranking the account to iron, he threw so he could derank.

@@disabledfr bro, doin smurf is you're making another account.

@@disabledfr and deranking an account from immo 2 to iron 1? Who tf do that bro

@@hidr428 yea making a new account and throwing placement games to get a low rank and then deranking to iron? use ur brain buddy

Exactly this, everyone in a smurfs game just doesnt improve or learn anything, it just ruins the game for everyone involved but the biggest issue is content creators doing it with 0 repurcussions

most of all its just not fun

LMAOOOO he smurfs with a knife on omen LMAO if you cant kill someone whos using knife only you deserve to stay in bronze till the end of time

​@@UzinPOE my guy he's also throwing his own team's game...but you wouldn't know that would you

@@nh2seven he top frags with a knife almost every time hes in a match

Yeah jolly is what you watch when you have no clue he teaches the very basics that everyone should have and it really helps he’s very good at explaining it to someone who’s new but woohoojin is the guy you watch when you know the basics and you can tell you’re good but things still aren’t working out he’ll show you the small things that make a big difference the little nuances within the game that will take you from gold to plat in a week bc you figured out the thing that made you have less impact

would a good person charge almost 200 dollars for telling someone "aim at head and press left click"

meh i wouldnt rlly call him a good person, he actively farms his prepubescent viewers really hard and in a predatory way. Stirring up personal romance/drama, thirst trapping, 175$ for coaching, smurfing. His entire content brand is super self centered and he uses his audience in a negative way. Also he purposefully perpetuates valorant stereotypes that will cause other people to get bullied etc

@@andrew4446 I know your frustration from the content he provides, but he definitely helped me in getting familiar with fps gaming, as I had no background in that. After watching most of his coaching videos, I can tell that his content is not very dense, but even if he does not go deep into specifics, the way he delivers his logic was good and very educational for newbies. I probably have watched over hundreds of his videos and cumulatively gained a coaching that definitely worth more that 175 dollars. Now of course his coaching got repetitive for me, but I watch him sometimes for entertainment as, I believe, most of his viewers. And about his pricing, it is not worth buying, but he said that he had to do it to reduce the number of people to coach and free up his schedule, as with lower price he was booked for 3 months every single day. You may say that it is not necessary and I agree, but I would prefer that than getting overwhelmed and stressed.

@@aydenmartin5650 sorry, but I became curious, which stereotypes are you referring to?

It's not really smurfing though, it is handicapping yourself to see how far you can progress. Your typical Smurf will just make a new account specifically to play against lower-tier players, what Joelz is doing is giving himself a handicap and seeing if he can progress with it (so far he hasn't progressed far in his knife-only series, you only see the highlights) Personally, I don't see much wrong with this as it's the equivalent of a professional football player tying to see how far they can go with only one leg. Based on Riots algorithm, it should place him in/near the correct rank that he belongs in when using that handicap.

@@ProdByCari how about the first irons that he went against. he clearly was better than all of them. when you handicap yourself and try to see how far you can go, you have to start somewhere, whether thats silver or gold. That means that those first players that he plays against are going to have a very large skill difference to the smurfs.

@@popsicle2735 im sure those irons looking to go pro were devastated when they lost 1 game

@@popsicle2735 So two things: #1 he is actually a lower rank now than he was to start: first placed Iron 3 and is now Iron 2. #2 Does that mean a CSGO pro who plays their initial placement matches against worse opposition is smurfing? Ofc not as there are obvious flaws in Riots system. Regardless, he was not "clearly better" then all of them when going knife only.. which is reflected in his Valorant tracker. What you see on his youtube is only a montage of his best clips in a bunch of games. You don't see all the rounds where he simply doesn't get a kill... the games where he only gets 3 or 4 kills.. My main point is though that everyone regardless of rank has to play placements games before they are placed in riots rank system, it just so happens that he is iron at best with a knife only.

@@ProdByCari thats different because csgo pros are not intentionally trying to play with noobs. Jollz is intentionally playing with iron players because he wants to generate clips that he can post on social media.

More qualified is a stretch, but I think that if you can't afford the higher price for the higher level of the game, then don't pay for it.

@@chross.. No it is not a stretch... You can literally find pro level coaches on Maetafy for like 25 bucks... One example is Ruin, who is an actual pro coach for several teams previously, like Complexity

@@chross.. I see your point but his advice is extremely generic and $175 isn't worth it to get the same tips you could get with other $20 radiants

​@@aishiTAO i feel like people who are buying the 175 coaching for the advice would just be plain stupid, its blatantly obvious and he even states himself that his coaching isnt worth the price and that there are probably coaches with better advice for cheaper, the reason his coaching is that price is for the fans who want a coaching session from jollz. the same way a gucci bag isnt priced at its true value, youre buying it for the brand, the smurfing is a whole nother issue but people shouldnt be complaining about the coaching, if you dont like then dont buy it, i know it can be a worry that people will think oo this cost alot im sure to get good advice to rank up, but at least instead of charging an insane amount and being happy he demotes his own sessions so people understand what theyre paying for.

@@aishiTAO It's not basic, the information he has on his youtube channel is basic. off-stream he goes more in depth of what to actually do, streaming vod reviews are only a part of it so he can grow his channel. (I know this because I have purchased from him before)

he also gets naked on twitter

@@catcheeks4295he doesn’t

@@georgexm_1 he did it popped up on my feed immideate unfolow.

Doesn’t make it right

Being an asshole isnt genius move, its just being an asshole.

Exactly

"bad market strategy" wtf are you talking about. He's not a professional and his value isn't in selling his expertise. The issue is that he's a CONTENT CREATOR giving zero value advice and charging HUNDREDS of dollars for it. Peak grifter activity

Well, first of the demand of his coaching is high. That's the reason for the price. Second, if you watch his vids, he mostly coaches low rank players. If low rank players have these crosshair placement issues, then it's his job as a coach to fix them. He can't go nitpicking a golds gameplay for rotation timings and lurks because they aren't at that level.

I mean, he charges a lot cuz people are willing to pay a lot, and people pay a lot cuz he is famous. He is not wrong in charging for something that people are willing to pay, but we can criticize it since it's definitely not worth it

@@jayjaywon since his main occupation is playing Valorant and making videos on how to improve you could count that as his proffesion which makes him a professional in that field. You wouldn't know to which extent he goes into the VODs on his paid coaching if you haven't bought it. And yes giving away information for free that people are willing to pay $175 for is a bad marketing strategy.

It is not really smurfing that Jollz is doing, this guy is completely right with yay, but all Jollz has done with his many knife only episodes is derank from Iron 3 to Iron 2, so saying he is bullying irons is crazy to me.

@@Henry-gs9xy When he does that, he is completely disrespecting his teammates time, terrible teammate get. now THATS crazy

@@Henry-gs9xy Jollz is smurfing. That is an objectively correct fact. He is a peak immortal player playing in fucking iron lobbies "nerfing himself" using knife. It doesn't matter if he nerfs himself with weapons he'll still outbrain them and also waste the time of not only enemies but also teammates

@@adrielliga5843 He is not even ranking up, let people play the way they want to play man, it is a game. It is not like he is throwing or carrying the games are going either way

@@Henry-gs9xy it doesn't matter that he doesn't rank up in fact that's even worse since it means his team is always losing which wastes the time of his teammates and enemies. It's like putting a 12th grader in a 3rd grade maths class but he can't write stuff down to work questions out. Not to mention the fact that to get an iron account, someone needed to throw games on it and waste peoples time. It's not about it being "just a game" but about wasting the time and ruining the games of teammates and enemies alike

you mean a set and 1 skin?

Eh, some people are rich enough to afford it so they do it. Gotta do something with your money

(Keeoh literally being friends with Jollz) But also Jollz has done a very similar thing with his [role] to radiant series he did awhile ago. Jollz did an Initiator to Radiant, Controller to Radiant, and Sentinel to Radiant series. Basically the same premise as Keeoh's speedrun's but he's playing the role not a specific agent. I don't watch Jollz all that often, but I've seen enough of him to know that he's just a chill streamer and makes fun content. I will agree that his prices for coaching is overpriced, but he does them live on stream. The advice and help he gives is genuinely pretty good. The clip in this video seems absolutely cherry picked.

Charlatan is also insane he’s woohoojins coach

@@skilledpapercut I’ll check them out then :} I cant play as often anymore but once I’m able too- I’ll try to climb to plat (hopefully)

You don’t need no coach to climb ranks.

@@KybarTV that's true but it helps, esp if the coaching is free and insightful then I don't see any reason not to take it. Surely you don't tell people who prefer to walk outside wearing shoes that "You don't need shoes to walk around".

@@hannya_little I actually do tell people that, and I just wanna say, you really don’t need coaching, 99% of people watching the video are dia or under and if you are you should practice aim (including crosshairs placement ofc) with a shitload of dms and maybe aimlab and improve gamesense by thinking about what you’ve done and what you could do better. Also just playing gives you experience which also gives you gamesense. The only time I’d say you could use coaching is when you’re stuck in immortal since there’s such a gap between radiants and immo 3s. Then and only then you could VOD review and all that stuff. It’s really straightforward.

Sondo!!!

Yeah nothing wrong with charging for coaching, Woohoojin's just a special case cause he's genuinely going above and beyond. But yeah 175 USD for an hour is daylight robbery, it's just for the bag at that point which I mean respect I guess? But definitely kinda scummy.

Wondoooo!!!

Hey daddy

"Iron out"

It’s not about aim it’s exactly what was said in the video I’ve been immo the last couple acts and it’s about how gunfights are manipulated to have above 50% odds when I completely turn my brain off and play in diamond I can’t just out sim everyone the sim diff is very marginal.

Bruh im exactly the same, im asc 1, but my aim is more like ass 5

i got to like plat2-3 by getting carried by my aim and was stuck there until i discovered banana man. With his insight on how to play in your favor and with your teammates, i was able to go from p3 to asc1 in a week.

Matchmaking has become a total chaos. The last 5 games got bronze and plat players in the same game

your name sound like aleksib XD

@@Snow-el7yp im getting mocked in ranked for that too xddd

@@aleksPval why are you being mocked? Aleksib is sexy :)))))

@@Snow-el7yp yes but they think im his fan

Glad u enjoyed the video and understood my point. It flew over alot of peoples heads for some reason.

LMAO. please explain to me how you are blown away by a Diamond player telling you aim isn't important. Please tell me where the thought process and decision making comes in when an Immortal queues for a game in a Plat lobby and holds W into site killing everyone instantly. In my smurfing cases (ive reached high immortal and rad on 3 seperate accounts) the more you rely on gamesense and trying to outplay people with logic is the more you're gonna lose control of the game and just be another average KDA reyna in that game. there is no complex decision making when it comes to Immortals or Rads. Its basic gameplay that looks normal, except now youre playing against people that casually play COD, new to PC, bad computers, peripherals, fps, etc. and you can just simply react faster. It blows my mind how VALORANT probably has the lowest TTK in any FPS game released so far yet I still see bots in "high elo" (top 2-3% ascendant, but still trash gameplay) who dont even know how to counter strafe. or proper visualizing techniques. or proper movement. or proper decision making. i could (not exaggerating) list you like 1000 other things. Its mistakes riddled with other tiny mistakes that all lead to this giant mess. All of these things come together to form your average bot player in ranked. Now you see why its not hard to just simply outaim everyone that dont even know what they're doing, and even if they did, possibly couldn't have the skill or courage to muster up any confidence to attempt a kill on an obviously smurfing enemy. I might sound delusional if you don't know the proper definition and differences between "gamesense" and "aim." Let me explain it to you Aim is NOT: The embodiment of tiktokers flicking to the moon and back to get 1k clips Flicking everywhere like a speed demon. Setting your sensitivity to 2.0 1600 dpi Instead, Aim is defined as how effectively and efficiently one is able to move their crosshair. That includes, but is not limited to, counterstrafing, visualization techniques, reaction time, crosshair placement, tracking, clicking, target switching. Even movement can be considered a part of this branch, since the definition of aim itself is game specific. You cannot "aim" properly if you don't know how to deadzone your enemy, or move in sync with your crosshair and counteracting your aim inaccuracies due to movement. Essentially, even the act of shooting your gun is aiming. Everything is. Gamesense is, like what, knowing your angles, when to rotate, and general good usage of timings ingame. Gamesense, however, is also a very specific internal thought process that only becomes useful when you can actually predict what other people are going to do. Trying to utilize that inner decision making, or gamesense, in lower elo when youre used to normal high level plays that are logically thought out and not just random plays made by plats who got off of work and havent played in months, might as well be in whole different branch. It's like watching TenZ play gridshot, loading into gridshot, and just shooting everywhere with no accuracy only replicating his speed. It's like trying to stand up in sleep paralysis. IT DOESNT EXIST. its a BLUR. youre never going to find it. youll get caught off guard by players who dont know what theyre doing, and aim will come to crutch you out of every scenario regardless. you feel enlightened by this dumb statement made by a diamond player because no one experienced enough in this game is delusional enough to make that statement regardless. if youre thinking about what youre doing ingame, youre not good at valorant. PLEASE REMEMBER. JOLLZ IS RADIANT. RADIANT. THE SKILL GAP BETWEEN RADIANT AND IMMORTAL 2 IS SO UNBELIEVABLY LARGE THAT ID SAY ITS A LARGER DIFFERENCE THAN IRON3- ASCENDANT 3 IN TERMS OF RANK. YOUR AVERAGE LOW IMMORTAL SHITTER IN THIS COMMENT SECTION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO COMMENT ON THE EFFECTS THAT GOOD AIMING HAS IN LOW RANKS.

Does that make it ok?

@FateAmon technically yes. If you are low elo and die to a knife that means you've done something wrong. Compared to if a smurf straight up one taps your while team in seconds and you dont even know what happened, at least here you learn something.

@@not_urmom8021 Nah, you do not learn anything. dying to a knife doesn't mean you did something wrong. There are plenty of times when your play is right but you get outaimed. Getting knifed makes low elo players frustrated more than anything. They are iron for a reason. Those players won't encounter a knife only omen ever again in their life unless they have the misfortune of getting in a lobby with jollz again. Again, they are irons. They won't be able to kill jollz if he were standing still in middle of a site. They probably play once a week or are completely new to Valorant. They probably don't even know how many maps are there in the game. Milking them for content, laughing at them and insulting them won't make them better players.

@FateAmon look I watch his series, and half the time, he always tps behind the enemy without a flash. Now, if that keeps happening, that's their problem because 1. It becomes so predictable 2. There is literally a sound que whenever Omen tps unless he flashes There's more like how he uses smokes, but honestly, even irons can beat a knife only with guns. If they can't learn to counter knife only, then they're just ass and aren't gonna get better anyway. I think you underestimate how good irons are. Sure, there are some new players, but I've seen some decent iron players that just need to play more. Honestly, they can learn from a knife only omen like clearing their goddamn corners (jollz sometimes just smokes and hides in them or in a rat corner) since they keep dying like that you would think they would start clearing their corners Also, most of his games he mid or bottom frags, so he's not even impacting the game as much as you think.

Yes. And he is not bullying anyone considering he has gone from Iron 3 at the start of his series to Iron 2 now. He is not even able to compete in Iron 3, let alone "bully" them.

Ironically he’s right there is a marginal difference but I’m consistently immo and in diamond if I completely turn my brain off I won’t consistently win sim duels, I would say anything plat and higher is marginal aim diff.

yes it's a shooter game, like for me aim is 70% important and 30% other aspect, no idea why people saying aim is not important to reach high rank, you need to put effort to train your aim.

@@noahmyers7204 not the same for me tho, I can play very low effort in diamond and roll the lobby just challenging them

except it is scummy, to upcharge something and rinse your fans like this is vile. but u do u brotha

i mean i could charge 100 dollars for homemade lemonade, doesnt mean its crazy stupidly high

im guessing nobody would buy your lemonade at 100 dollars. You would need crazy good marketing or have the best lemonade. but there is nothing scummy about it which was the original point because you are not forced to buy something.@@lost_flower4412

kinda agree, its still terrible because theres better ways to do similar content without trolling or smurfing on random matches, but its also true riot really doesnt give much opportunity for anything else regarding valorant content, and it even goes as far as rewarding these players

I never understood how ppl get so mad over it. Like it's a video game. In a match. In the grand scheme of things, it's really meaningless to be doing this much over a videogame

@@shpambawho are you saying is mad, and about what? If you’re judging people for getting mad about losing up to an hour of their life on an unwinnable game of valorant, that’s just blatant victim blaming.

​@@shpamba the only value that matters in life is time. It's the only thing you'll never get again. People waste their life in this almost dystopian world working 9 hours a day, overworked and wants to play a game they enjoy to relax once they get home. Smurfs come along, ruin this experience. Why? Because they find it fun? That's something done by people who clearly lacks empathy. To ruin someone else's experience because you want to get your rocks off.

@@latbil who's the victim 💀

@@PicassosCat don't queue comp then? Unrated is just as fun

Also just a side note to help back my point: I looked up his Valorant tracker and his placement match ranked him as iron 3 on march 8th, since then he has made next to no progress on the account.. he did hit bronze 1 but quickly de-ranked down to iron 2, I think this just shows that he is in fact in the appropriate rank for the handicap he has given himself. Personally, I don't see him continuing the series to gold as even he probably knows there will be no way for him to achieve that rank using knife only.. despite how good he might play with no handicap.

@@ProdByCari exactly a lot of the points in this video are just assumptions lmfao

@@ProdByCari Yeah I didn't expect knife-only to actually work... that's not smurfing at that stage... it's just griefing. your teammates. Which is just as bad (arguably worse).

@@TheMinecraftHype they still humans they deserve to enjoy the game without a douchbag playing with only a knife

So what value does his fame add to his coaching?

@@haridaspalleeri6765 Nothing besides maybe being on a yt video or on stream. The person paying for the coaching is paying that much money to be coached by Jollz... because he is Jollz

I disagree, it absolutely is. At *best*, if we take what you say as true, it's making it a 4v5 for his team mates which is shit from the get go. And it tells his community that doing similar shit (or buying deranked accounts) is okay. Thats half the problem. Jollz is shit for this one, fr fr

Yeah he might not bully the opponents in that case, but rather is a terrible teammate to have. either way, he is disrespecting other peoples time greatly.

he is completely throwing by playing only knife that's the purpose, even if you tryhard, you're throwing

@@achatmaster95 I disagree, I think that having placed in that rank via solo queue makes him just as good a teammate as anyone else that they could have ended up with.

@@Malam_NightYoru how? even if he top frags? I find it funny that people can't make up their mind to decide are they throwing or smurfing. I think it is not justifiable to hate someone for deciding to play the way they want. If some guy in your team decided to play spectre only (or no vandal/phantom), would you think of them as throwers even if they kill twice more than you? If no, why would make it the difference if somebody is slicing whole enemy team in important clutches?

No it's not fair? Wohoojin would also make much more for the coaching instead of paying people to vod review and coach them. But Wohoojin has a moral compass and appropriate pricing and that is not to mention that the advice jollz gives is extremely shallow in comparison to the indepth analysis Wohoojin provides.

I’m sorry, but there’s no way you genuinely think an iron player should just “get better” and beat an immortal/radiant smurf. Quit trying to defend people who just want to shit on low elo players and ruin their games