The Second Aliyah (1905-1915) 

Take all the time you need to research, write, and produce. We are so greatful that you have provided us with this series so far. Thank you for what you have given us so far.

It's quality, not quantity that's keeping us all coming back for more. Take as much time as you need, including time to decompress and relax.

@@zugabdu1 True, but (1) I don't want to make a habit of it and (2) the next video will be the finale of the current run, so having it come out much later isn't desirable.

​@@SamAronowand the deadly algorithm likes a constant stream of content .🙃😒 but be sure to relax and enjoy your time in the states.

Should you pin this comment? I feel corrections and notes should be pinned in videos for ease of access and clarity. Also, pove what you're doing. As a history major focusing on Jewish-American history, you always give me good stuff. And have helped people in my local Hillel and AEPi chapter get more interested in our history.

That's somewhat depressing.

I wish more people had heeded it towards the end of his life.

​@@SamAronow Well, they kinda did. That's why he was kicked out of the leadership of Mapa"i.

Yeah, but he ended up being very right about one specific thing after he was kicked out. And the people who had taken over knew he was right, but they gave up on trying to do anything about it.

​@@SamAronow... what are you referring to? What was the one thing DBG was right about?

​@@SionTJobbins He obviously is going to do a segment about it, or include it in one.

Oh are you a convert? I’ve never heard it called that but I like it. I’m gonna start saying that. “Jew by choice” rolls better of the tongue than “convert.” 😂

I'm a convert too, and I feel the same. Saying that there's a lot to learn is an understatement of the century, but hey, if your soul calls for it, then it's totally worth it. Jewish history, religion and culture has been my major hyperfixation for 6 years I believe, maybe longer, and I still learn something every day, and still find joy in it. Actually, I think that now I have a better grasp on Jewish history than most of the actual Jewish people in my country, given that most of them are either Orthodox Christians or Atheists and don't care about their ancestry at all, which is *totally* cool, good for them to find their faiths elsewhere, but I wish we all had better connection with our roots.

As someone with Jewish ancestry patrilineally, I had to "convert." I prefer Jew by choice because I chose to practice, even though I do have an ancestral connection.

@@Airman1121 that’s interesting! I’ve heard of ancestral Jews having to convert but it’s interesting to know different ways the term is used

All adult Jews are Jews by choice

OTOH Ben-Zvi was from Poltava and Gordon was from Troyanov.

Well... probably because they were more assimilated to the Marxists movements within Russia rather than to Russia itself.

Also a Vegan, don't forget

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Thank you. This will come up in more detail later.

wasn't it also generally true that the ottoman state was dependent on the german economy at the time?

The Pashas were so rapacious that they hampered their war effort just to persecute the non-Turkish minorities.

Australia will become important soon. Not a special yet, but certainly a place of significance in Jewish history.

Come to think of it, the ANZACs are going to be _all over_ the next series of videos.

​@@SamAronow Glad to hear it, and I hope that New Zealand gets mentioned!

@@singularkakapo I'll have you know that (spoilers) it was the Kiwis who accepted the Ottoman surrender at Jaffa! There's a picture of it happening at the town square where I walked every day.

As an Aussie, I only ever talked to Jewish people once, I was holidaying in Melbourne and walked into a synagogue, thinking it was a church and enjoyed myself talking to them 😅

Dude gives me Hasan Piker vibes ngl.

Again, just like the same period in Russia!

@@SamAronow - "We are a loyal and agreeable National Minority." - Jewish People "And, I took that personally..." - Russian and Ottoman Governments c. ~1800s-~1900s.

​​@@GermanConquistador08 which why make wonder what the point of constitution of the young Turk again if they they just doing authorian way as they accused their sultan Abdul Hamid II have the power of absolute. Enver Pasha was idiot thinking they could run thing as the same German Empire did.

@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 - The illusion of progress is a powerful thing.

@@GermanConquistador08 Well it did help ruin the Empire all right. And not single progress significant enough to save Empire. Not to mention they just do authorian dictatorship work which contradict with the constitution they want to create.

I looked it up and there have been six respondents to my survey in Malaysia.

@@SamAronow really? Wow i guess i'm not alone. there are other malaysian jewish history fans

m8, i really hope i am not the only Indonesian that subscribe to this men content and watch almost all of his videos

What's up, jerks!?

because it was the language of the clergy and the early liberal zionists like Herzl

Yes. probably because Hebrew had to be learned and was not a language spoken by most Jewish workers

@@coe3408 *Yet

Ben-Gurion and Ben-Zvi were really outliers within the Yishuv. Most had had a very bad experience with Ottoman rule, not only because of the legal issues that had begun under Abdülhamid but also because the Young Turk Revolution had inflamed ethnic tensions in the region to their detriment. When the war broke out, most avoided taking an explicit position out of fear but shared Trumpeldor's perspective that the Ottoman Empire was doomed.

Yeah, we're now entering an era with people the viewer might actually have met! For me that was the last episode, when my aunt Ethel had a cameo. She was born in Kiev during the Beilis trial and I carried her casket in 2011.

Well, that's because it wasn't a civil war in the conventional sense, but a regional war of independence that failed. And just as in the World Wars, American industry was almost entirely far, far away from the battlefield and thus undamaged by the war. I did talk about this a bit in my video "Minhag America (1789-1885)."

​​​@@SamAronow True (and I should go back and re-watch that episode). That said, we shouldn't fail to note that Northern industry owed a lot to the cotton produced by the enslaved of the South. Nobody's hands were completely clean in the US economy (and thus not entirely unaffected by abolition) no matter how far north they were.

And it's also worth noting that most of the south did become economically devastated after the Civil War and it basically remained that way for about century until the south started to industrialize in the '80s and '90s (around the same time the democratic party started losing its monopoly on politics in the south).

​@@SamAronowalso the Civil War gave northern states complete control of Congress for about a decade which enabled a series of pro-industrial reforms that the southerners had blocked.

Not the next one, as we still have the pre-war finale covering _all_ the stuff that's been going on in America during this period. When we actually get into the war, I will revisit the Young Turk Revolution from the perspective of Avraam Benaroya and the SSIF, then back to Trumpeldor for the ZMC, and _then_ Nili, which will deal heavily with the Armenian Genocide. I have nine videos lined up for World War I.

​@@SamAronow I was wondering if you'd touch on Nili, good to hear it won't be skipped over

I didn't say the Old Yishuv as a whole was insular, but specifically the Haredim and especially Hasidim of Jerusalem.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think this is an Old Style New Style thing. It depends which calendar you use.

@@BitspokesV2 That would be a discrepancy of 12 days in the 19th century, here we're talking about 4 months. BTW, I started a discussion about this on the talk page of the article for David Ben-Gurion on the English Wikipedia. It turns out these mysterious discrepancies are more common.

My mother as well.

The next video will be the finale of the Long 19th Century.

@@SamAronow can’t wait!

Depends on the context. Normally I'd just distinguish by country.

@@SamAronow I agree that it's context dependent heck Moroccan Jews divide themselves by cities even neighboring cities have different Mihagim not to mention Rural Jews and others I just think the general vibe is that morocco and Egypt are much more different than the rest of the Maghreb which is more similar to each other based on your comments the next video will persumaly cover WWI

I mean, so do American Jews. You could even break it down by neighborhood. Minhag is all relative.

Egypt Cyrenaica Tripoli Djerba Tunis Algeria (you may or may not divide them to 3 Algiers, West, Constantine) Moroccans Berber Jews (which in Hebrew are called Atlas Mountains Jews) Talking about the 20th-today But that's just my opinion.

In 1906, the Ottomans occupied Egyptian Taba to expand their port at Aqaba. The British counter-occupied it in response, and quickly a deal was worked out to cede what is now Eilat to the Ottomans. This established the present border.

Israeli “leftists” alienated the world with their expansionist and neocolonial policies. You can’t subjugate millions of Palestinians and then expect to welcome in leftist spaces.

Honestly, the unwillingness to welcome Palestinian voices was zionisms greatest sin, which really sucks for an otherwise noble movement. Hopefully the situation will improve soon and both sides can live equally in the area

@@pckrichards7980 thank you for your honesty. It's always heartwarming to hear opinions of people who don't have skin in the game but make up for it with holly judgment. I don't think welcoming voices of movements that wanted us dead (DEAD!) is a virtue-more like stupidity. We had a brief romance in the early 90s. We welcomed their voice. They came here and their moderates said: "sure, we can have peace, just dig your dead relatives out of the ground and go back to Europe". That was an interesting experiment. We still feel the enormity of this mistake. Ever since those years we have had to deal with two sides of the vise: 1. we suffer massacres from the very entities we created to prepare for a Palestinian statehood (Give peace a chance) and 2. we get criticized for our "greatest sin", not doing enough. And they bring their opinion to places that have NOTHING to do with the Israeli-Arab conflict. They just can't help it. How does your reply even relate to what I wrote?

@@kakungulu I should have worded this better. What I meant was an earnest look back at how the conflict began, and a hope for a future where the region can actually be cohabitated by both Israelis and Palestinians. Your response just speaks to the current era of the conflict that, while I have done research over the past few months, I admit I don’t have the personal experience to properly speak on it, so I won’t. I also don’t want to get in an argument on a f***ing RU-vid comment section.

@@pckrichards7980 There are Zionists who support peace and dialogue with the Palestinians. But the guy you replied to, in spite of his narcissistic whining about the international left not respecting Israel, is certainly not one of them.

I'll probably find out soon, as I'm looking to move onto one.

@@SamAronow ditto! I’m going to be making Aliyah soon and my plan is to move into a Kibbutz.

Oh, I don't have any particularly close relatives in this one. Golda Meir comes closest, her neice/ward Rochelle Lehrer being my mom's neighbor as a child. I guess there's an implied family connection via my great-grandfather being involved in Poalei Zion Cleveland.

@@SamAronow I meant the series in general, not this episode in particular... Of course they won't appear here, Yosel and Basya are at that time period in Chicago...

True. But I think you've got it the other way around. I'm not using the series to talk about my family, I'm using my family as an example to talk about how these events were experienced by ordinary people.

It should, but "Religious Centre" is usually the English translation in contemporary media. Why yes, I have been reading 1930s election reports from the JTA.

I can't make any promises, but I'm very deliberately saving Morocco for a really big video when I get to World War II.

Maybe, though I hadn't thought of it specifically. The Hundred Days will however get its own episode and I think you know why.

"Zionism Before Herzl (1882-1896)" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OGWQUilit9Q.html

You underestimate how old I am. Technically speaking, I've lived through more than 1% of Jewish history. And there's a lot of stuff from that period that's worth covering. That said, I'll stop when I don't want to do it anymore and can afford to start something new.

And it's currently neighboring, among others, Herzlia and Ramat Gan (lit. Garden Heights), the two rejected names... (the latter due to being a “garden city“)

The season. Spring as a water source is _ayin,_ which is the same word for "eye."

@@SamAronow just like in the classic Sabbatean tract “And I will come to the eye today”

No, it means white city, Aviv is wheat ( in the ear), so white city. The roofs of the houses were white, and when seen from a distance, so was the city, or fields of ripened wheat. I'm not Jewish. Wasn't ben Gurion from Dublin, Ireland. I may have missed it but I didn't hear that mentioned.

@@robleahy5759 I don't know where you got _any_ of that. "White City" is a nickname for Tel Aviv, but "white city" in Hebrew is _Ir Levana_ and "wheat" is _hita._ Ben-Gurion was from Płonsk, as mentioned in the video. You may be thinking of Rabbi Yitzhak Herzog, grandfather of the current Israeli president, who was Chief Rabbi of Ireland, though he was born in Łomza as well.

@@SamAronow I had a Hebrew English dictionary which translated Tel Aviv as white (roofs, like ripened ears of wheat), perhaps it was a poetic or fanciful notion. But loads of nationalistically minded Irish people believe Ben Gurion was a Dubliner, just like Scots and Russians believe they invented television. It's just island nationalism running for generations without allowing corrections to ever enter. Luv your channel seen every one. Immensely flattered to get a personal response. I lived for 20 years in east st kilda Melbourne and the slight tension between European jews there and anglo jews (mosaic tradition) in neighbouring Caulfield was still a thing.