The Second Coming of Christ Is NOT What You May Think: Here’s Why 

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Absolutely!!!

Agree, but secondary issues are worth the conversation. “Iron Sharpens Iron”.

@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb 2 Thessalonians 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." Revelation 11:1-2: "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."

Ja

You as well my friend. Thank you

Bless to you and yours 🙏

I'll add a big AMEN to that!

As God used things in cycles, I think 70 ad fits best with what Jesus said and you don’t have to piece everything together like this. As I said God does things in cycles, first to the Jew; then to the gentile. Though, I agree this is no hill to die on.

Days of Noah, the wicked were swept away, not Noah, he was there for the flood. He was just protected from it. “Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13‬:‭24‬, ‭26‬-‭30‬ ‭First, the tares are taken and burned. No pretrib. It’s false in order to deceive us, make us complacent, and make us prideful. I was pretrib. There’s no way. We get sealed by the angels, then tribulation comes, and we have to help people not take the mark. That’s what I see. We have to warn them like Noah warned the people of that day. Build up an ark for yourself in your heart, so when the tempest comes you’re prepared. Not scorned by asking God “why wasn’t I taken?” Warn people now, and until it happens. “Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.” After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7‬:‭2‬-‭3‬, ‭9‬-‭11‬, ‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭

keep your faith in Christ and dont be led astray- thats what truly matters

I never quite understood preterism to be honest, Jesus himself and others spoke about the end time prophecies being for a far off generation, not for those he was speaking to in there present time, that in itself delegitimizes preterism, but I understand exactly what you mean about believing this or that until you yourself read the Bible, and your understanding deepens further and even changes when you read it after being saved and filled with the Holy Spirit, almost all prophecies are hidden, closed off to the elect and unsaved, that is exactly why the word of God is the first line of defense in the armour of God, the word of God is your threat identification system, it's impossible for any of us to know if we are being deceived by false teachings and false teachers unless we have read, and more than just read, until we have understood the word of God. A false teacher, the unsaved, those that are highly educated and teaching college courses on religion, can read verbatim from the Bible and still deceive you by changing the meaning, not understanding the true meaning, or disregarding it altogether. There is a reason God and Jesus Christ tells us to consume the word of God, it strengthens our faith, it strengthens our understanding so we are more immune to deception, it teachers us mercy and understanding, love for our fellow man, the word of God teaches EVERYTHING, and without it we are ignorant and lost. When I became saved and filled with the Holy Spirit I immediately began having an intense desire to read the Bible, from the beginning to the end, where before I never wanted to read the Bible ever, and if I did it would only be revelation or some other part I thought more exciting, and even that was rare. After being saved, filled with the Holy Spirit and submitting to God I wanted to read it all and understand everything. I am happy to hear that reading the Bible yourself helped you understand the deception you were under, always pray to God before reading his word and ask him to help you understand what your reading, to open your eyes to what others cannot see, because there are plenty of atheists, false teachers, highly educated people of all types and even satanists who read the Bible. They all read it and try to use it to deceive not just Christians but those that are lost and searching for God, they use it to defend there evil. Like when false preachers try to use the Bible to defend there stance on abortion and child mutilation and LGBTQ behavior, they either change the meaning or they ignore large parts of the Bible they dislike. Be careful watching preaching on RU-vid especially, you might not realize your being deceived, unless you yourself have the word of God, the first line of defense in the armour of God.

I do believe pre trib is false and too many people believe it so when the end times come and there not wisked away many of them will fall away from believing

Never attack we are all on the same road to learning all views should be welcomed and let the Holy Spirit guide you.

John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth The church rapture is at judgement day Revelation 21 shows no more days

Any Christians who bash Catholics are not Christians facts

I get attacked everyday for no reason because people are plain vile and narcissistic and they hate Christians. I’m done with people. I just want to go home to Jesus!

Everything we say and do reflects upon God and Jesus. They have to answer for their ugly behaviors; they'd be wise to ask for deliverance from the accusing spirits. Who knows if they're even Christians. Could be fakes or bots

I agree! He also makes it fun!

I'm 68 and I also enjoyed this teaching.

I'm in agreement at 55. Thank you!

May the Lord continue to bless you, dear! 🙏💕

​@@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782may he bless you as well!

I always thought the same thing. ❤

Well, look at who we have here. 🤔

You are correct. 100 percent correct

Exactly!

Exactly my thoughts😊

Yes i would too.

King James Version please. Not the newer so called bibles that are owned and patented by man and you can look up the patent numbers.

He should do it with the Hebrew and Greek. The King James is ONE english translation of many and it no more holy as it wasn't created until 1611.

@@katiefoster6624 So, who made the King James Bible? James I of England commissioned it and it was completed in 1611. the Authorized version meant it was authorized by James I for use in church so they would have only one Bible to choose from for services. so what did the church do for 1,611 years? there was also the Geneva Bible and the Tyndale Bible before the King James, which were used to create that version.

@@katiefoster6624King James is corrupted just like the newer versions. Do your research in the Kings James Bible and you will be floored!

This!

You know where I think God was trying to lead people with all this Matthew 24, read verse 29 immediatly after tribulation coming with power and great glory , you should know I think he told you that for a reason power and great glory no man that has sin in him can stand in God's glory Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Exodus 31:13 KJV Thered more but there is your sign in scripture and reason theres's more

Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them. Ezekiel 20:12‭-‬13 KJV because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols. I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; and hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. Ezekiel 20:16‭, ‬19‭-‬20 KJV A sign, want to know what the sign is?

And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: and it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: and I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Exodus 33:18‭, ‬20‭-‬23 KJV bible.com/bible/1/exo.33.18-23.KJV

And the children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with him. Exodus 34:35 KJV bible.com/bible/1/exo.34.35.KJV Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD? Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward. Isaiah 58:5‭-‬8 KJV bible.com/bible/1/isa.58.5-8.KJV LIGHT

Amen

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then if we use the Spirit, why does the Spirit teach different churches different things? If you would say churches follow the Spirit, then why are there 2500 denominations in just the USA alone? and why is there no correction for them, like in the book of Revelation, where Jesus threatens to remove their candlestick for simple issues? Does the Spirit no longer bring correction and if that correction is ignored, does the Spirit just allow it to continue like a bad parent?

The Spirit does not have anything to do with false churches. The Catholic Church is the only one that is the Temple of the Holy Spirit.@@Michael-le5ph

@@aussierob7177 I think that idea is wrong. What about the rest of the church? Going to hell?

Very true

II Peter 3:10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be discovered. Note the “thief” comes near the time of the final wrath - not seven years prior. 1 Thessalonians 5:4: But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness, so that the day would overtake you like a thief;

Greetings Matthew, this message is sent in love. Revelation was written circa 65 A.D. and fulfilled 66 - 70 A.D. your friend,

@@matthewmiller3733 Greetings Matthew, this message is sent in love. Peter was a Jew. Hebrews/Jews wrote the scriptures. They speak in pictures, speak metaphorically and apocalyptically, especially the prophets. If you read the scriptures with a western Greek mindset, via a literal lense, you will never understand the scriptures, never. Every sabbath Peter would listen to the law, prophets and the Psalms; this is where he gets his verbiage. How does 2 Peter 3 begin? He tells them this is his second epistle/letter. What did he tell them in the first letter? He told them they would see the revelation of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. How does Peter start his second letter: be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets. He continues, there shall come in the last days scoffers. Acts 2 Peter quotes Joel (a prophet) and says he is "living" in the last days. What are these men scoffing at? He continues, Where is the promise of his coming? The message that all of the apostles are delivering, is Christ is coming. Peter gets to the point and says, the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. In the first century what did a Jew call the temple? Heaven and earth. He is telling them the temple would be destroyed, same thing Christ said, and same thing Daniel said. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. What elements? The periodic table? No The Jews lived under the law/Mt.Sinai/Mosaic covenant. Christ was born under the law. Christ was sent to fulfill the law. What did the law say? If you break my covenant, I will destroy you. The elements burning up are the elements of the law. Why does Peter speak this way, read Nahum 1, this is the type of language he would here every sabbath as a young man. You mentioned 1st Thessalonians. To whom and when was this letter written? CIrca 52 A.D. to a church present in 52 A.D. This letter was not written to you. It was not addressed to you. How many times in this letter did Paul tell these church members that they would see the revelation? 6 times. Did Paul lie to these church members? No this message is sent in love, your friend

@@markmoore3530 ALL of the apostolic and church fathers expected a future return of Jesus Christ. It would be strange indeed if the entire church failed to understand the fulfillment of so many of the New Testament prophecies on such a major point. They did not ignore the promise of Revelation 1:7 that tells us, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. A preterist interpretation calls for this to be a reference to the "tribes of the land" of Israel, even though Israel was never described in such a way elsewhere in the Bible. But such an interpretation would demand that the Jews who suffered through the A.D. 70 event would have recognized that their sufferings were a punishment for their treatment of Jesus since the prophecy is not merely that they would mourn, but that they would mourn "over Him." Just as there is no evidence that anyone in the church ever recognized the fall of Jerusalem as the return of Jesus, so also there is a complete absence of evidence that the Jews ever recognized the coming of Jesus in those events.

@@markmoore3530 Who would know better as to whether Jesus came back in A.D. 70? Those who were alive in A.D. 70 and the years immediately following? Or modern day preterists writing 2,000 years later? I’ll side with those who lived closer to the events.

There are a few more events in between you should pay close attention to. It's when we really are: Revelation 20; Satan's short season.

Says who? you learned all this from a book or from your church.

@@Michael-le5ph The bible. Book of Revelation

Jewish age....Heaven and Earth is what the Jews called the temple....it's where heaven met earth literally when God would come one day a year and meet with A man

Do you know?

@@yashadel_TheFirstAdam - All I can do is wait and see like everyone else. We are commanded to watch.

The rapture is a false teaching.

In the Revelation, it is prophesied that the old earth and old heaven will burn with a fervent heat and will pass away. Then John saw a new heaven and new earth created. So that verse is in fact literal. "Heaven and earth shall pass away."

@@briangc1972 whoa! Thank you for informing me of the magnificence of the word, and this is exactly why we study 😭

@@briangc1972 That is NOT correct, Heaven and Earth were created to last forever, a "New Heaven" and "New Earth" are symbolic terms, NOT literal! The Scripture also says "the sea will be no more", are we to think the oceans will disappear? Not at all! The Bible explains itself: (Isaiah 57:20) “But THE WICKED ARE LIKE THE RESTLESS SEA THAT CANNOT CALM DOWN. And its waters keep tossing up seaweed and mire. NEW HEAVEN- Governments are often compared to "Heaven" since it rules OVER the people as Heaven is over the earth. NEW EARTH- Those living under a government are under it's authority as the Heavens are over the "earth", which refers to a society of righteous people. THE SEA- the wicked element of society will be destroyed. (Psalm 37:10) Just a little while longer, and THE WICKED WILL BE NO MORE; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. You cannot interpret Revelation if you don't know what is literal and what is symbolic since Revelation is loaded with symbolic terminology. The "New Heavens" and "New Earth" will be a reality under the authority of Christ's thousand year Kingdom. Peace worldwide will become a reality as the earth and all who are faithful will be brought to perfection and have eternal life as a reward.

@@Saks_Fifth The only value in study is if the information being given is actually TRUTH. All I see from the many churches is a speck of truth drowning in an ocean of man made doctrines, pagan rituals and false teachings that are LIES! Mixing such things with Christianity does not sanctify the false teachings it instead pollutes a Christian's worship as a little leaven will ferment a lump of dough. Do not be deceived! Jesus Christ and his apostles reflected Jehovah’s strong feelings about false religion. Jesus warned his disciples: “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7:15; Mark 13:22, 23) Paul wrote that “God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth.” (Romans 1:18) How vital that true Christians heed these warnings and stay clear of anyone who suppresses the truth of God’s Word or spreads false teachings!-1 John 4:1.

"Word" might be Jesus as in the holy trinity. I've read something about it years ago, will have to look into it

Greetings Matthew, my youngest son is named Matthew. Christ was very specific concerning his return. He told his audience that some of them would still be alive, Matthew 16:27-28 . These words are repeated by Paul in his second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter 1, after he told them 6 times in the first letter Christ was coming, in their lifetime. this message is sent in love, your friend

@@markmoore3530 Did you read anything he just said? And it does not state "in our lifetime," but reasonably follows the same pattern as read above.

@@sackclothministries9118 Greetings, I read the message twice. Don't even know where to start, the mental gymnastics of reasoning are.....anyways, will try and address each comment. Isaiah 13, what does the first verse say? The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see. Is or is not Isaiah prophesying a future event? He is, he saw a vision of the future. Because part of this vision is the people wailing/howling and saying the day of the Lord is at hand, doesn't change the fact that Isaiah said this prophecy is related to Babylon. Isaiah tells us in his vision that Babylon is the subject. When Christ and John the Baptist preached, "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" they didn't tell everyone like Isaiah, "I saw a vision" ......concerning Babylon. Was or was not the kingdom of heaven growing actively, presently, when Christ preached the gospel? Were or were not people being added to the kingdom? It was at hand. You said, Notice that it was "this generation" that murdered Zechariah, the son of Berechiah. Again, don't even know how to reason this thought.....Christ said, "whom you murdered between the temple and the altar". So, your position is Jesus Christ is a liar? Jesus Christ said you. Well, who is you? Had Christ addressed this group of men before? Yes What was one of the things he said? Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Next, you go into "second person" gymnastics. Jesus says, “You shall see the Son of Man sitting with power” Do you think the high priest and the priesthood had ever heard these words before? What did they read every sabbath? The law, prophets and Psalms. Christ is alluding to Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Did these men witness this event? Yes “You shall carry my bones up from here” (Genesis 50:25) Joseph is dying. He tells them to take his bones to Canaan. So, you are saying, he needed to know the man who was going to carry his bones? So, he should have been more specific? Maybe say, not you, not your grandchildren, but a man named Simon, who is 33 years old, standing by a red fence, get him to carry my bones. The scripture states: And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.25 And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence. (Is this not clear enough?) Really........You, is a member of the house of Israel. Did his bones make it to Canaan? Yes Jeremiah addresses the elders who were taken into the Babylonian Captivity (Jeremiah 29:1) and says to them, “When seventy years have been completed for Babylon, I will visit you and fulfill My good word to you, to bring you back to this place” (29:10) No It is not Jeremiah addressing the elders. These are God's words that Jeremiah is repeating. we do not need to assume that they must all have lived another 70 years to see the fulfillment of this prophecy. did some of them see it? Yes read Haggai 2 This is no different than Christ telling his audience that some of them standing in front of him would not die and see the revelation, the second coming, Matthew 16:27-28 In Malachi 4:5, the prophet says, “Behold, I am going to send to you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. Jesus Christ must be a liar again, because he states that John the Baptist fulfilled this prophecy. You can't keep taking scriptures out of context to fit a presupposed idea. Just because your whole life you have been indoctrinated with a thought pattern, does not mean it is true. In our lifetime. Almost every New Testament writer tells their audience that Christ is coming, and they will witness this event. How can you read the New Testament and not see this? Only because of the teachers in your midst. Read Matthew through Revelation and make a note every time the return of Christ is mentioned. I dare you. Then reply to this post with every occurrence. When you are finished, either your eyes will be opened, or you can't read. I believed like Matthew many years ago, but started reading the bible over and over and found out what I had heard preached my whole life was not what the book said, not even close. Watched all these prophecy teachers, set dates, blah blah blah, and realized, again, this is not what the book teaches. Although a little feisty, this message is sent in love, to reason together. As brothers, neighbors, we should all be pointed toward truth. God doesn't care what I believe, or you believe, he cares about what is true, your friend

​@@markmoore3530 100%

Jesus said THIS GENERATION-meaning HIS generation, or you have to twist the text to make it OUR generation-will not pass away until all these things have come to pass. but they didn't. they still haven't' and they still wont have happened 100 years from now because we take the words of Jesus for HIS TIME and apply it to our time as if Jesus is speaking to everyone who has ever lived. Not so, there was a specific audience for that saying.

Exactly. I was telling my daughter this as well. So many are confused and not understanding this.

Nope

quote---They are two separate time events. Rapture happens at the beginning before the tribulation, Rev. 4:1--unquote Nope--God is telling John to "COME up hither" THe rest of the verse is: And I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." God is showing John what will happen in the future. Revelation 4.1 (KJV) Next verse (Revelation 4.2) 1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. -----What is the main message of Revelation 4? Revelation chapter 4 begins John's vision of the future. John sees a door open in heaven and is invited to “come up hither” and glimpse God's plan from a divine perspective. There he sees the throne of God, the earth in its celestial glory, and the many exalted beings singing praises to God and the Lamb. ----

Then wouldn't that make it the 3rd coming? Jesus return is the second coming .

Hi, no when the rapture happens, we are going to Him. He is not coming to us. @@teenajones7120

Then why do people disagree with what His words mean?

This earth and Heaven will pass away and a new earth and new Heaven will appear at the end of the millennium

All religions will cease to exist and only the Family of the One True God will live in the New Jerusalem and the rest of those who will live at that time will be an extension of that family through eternity

Heaven and earth is what the Jews called the temple A thousand years meant Forever Every Jew knew what he was talking about The end of the Jewish age and temple...the end of the Law written against man and its system

New Heavens and a New Earth are symbolic, NOT literal. The Heavens and the earth will NEVER be destroyed. (Psalm 78:69) He made his sanctuary as enduring as the heavens, Like the earth that he has established forever. (Psalm 104:5) He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever.

@@djparsons7363 we will definitely find out in the long run whether symbolic or not. Thank goodness not a salvation issue

You are correct. I get the same interpretation as well. Which is why I don’t follow this young youtuber. He still has more ways to go on the journey. The other more farther along in their walk and Bible scholars are those I rather follow because they have far more advanced knowledge in the theology.

@@djparsons7363 quote---Psalms 78:69 69 He built his sanctuary like the high heavens, like the earth, which he has founded forever. 69 There he built his sanctuary as high as the heavens, as solid and enduring as the earth. 69 He built his sanctuary there, resplendent, solid and lasting as the earth itself. BUILT IN Heaven SANTUARY!!! HIS CHURCH!!!! Psalms 104:5 5*You fixed the earth on its foundation, so it can never be shaken. 6 The deeps covered it like a garment; above the mountains stood the waters. So, you believe that is literal?? ------But not Revelation 21? New International Version A New Heaven and a New Earth 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Not literal??? ---So, John is a liar??? God is a liar??? If it is NOT literal. then tell us what it means Mr. Know it all. Is this symbolic or literal? 2 Peter 3:[10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. How about this one? >>This literal? Malachi 4:3 KJV: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of ... >>He destroyed the earth before with water. It is written--will be fire next time.

Is the “come up here” for the people or the narrator so that he can see the prophecy

@@Ambroses.Kittens Both. its a prophecy. We know the door always refers to heaven. The voice represents the trumpet. Come up hither is being risen up. In the rapture he comes for his church and when the 1000 year reign he comes with the church. So when he comes in the clouds to judge we are coming with him.

@@melissavincent6817 When God speaks to a man and says, come up hither, he is speaking to that man. When the writer of a gospel says "talking with me..." he actually means "talking with me." and while the voice was "talking with me" it said "to me" "come up hither." Some things are not hard to understand, but other things are. Are you part of God's church? Find out who I am if you truly are.

@@yashadel_TheFirstAdam The bible is not one dimensional especially when talking about prophecy. In Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zephaniah and in fact all the books of the prophets tell warning of judgement. These Prophetic warnings also tie in with revelations. In fact all through the bible there is a real time meaning and prophetic/future meaning that is referred to all the way to the New Testament. You can't only read revelations to understand end times. In fact if your reading revelations you must read Genesis. The start and the end mirror each other. So yes simple if your reading that scripture without context of the whole bible. We use the bible to teach us how to read the bible. You look for trends to give meaning. So a single person can represent themselves and the church( us as a whole)

The book of Revelation is to Israel about Israel, not to or about the Body of Christ Church. 70 weeks are determined upon Israel. 69 of those weeks are past already. The 70th week never came because Israel fell in unbelief. Salvation came to the Gentiles because Israel fell. But once the Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles is over, Israel will be called again by God. That's who the 144,000 Jews are. They are preaching their Gospel all over the world before the end comes. Matthew 24:14. It's the very reason for the gift of tongues. But that's not the Body of Christ Church, it's Israel. In the Body of Christ Church there is no distinction made between Jew and Gentile. In Israel there is a definite distinction made between Jew and Gentile. The 144,000 Jews are all Jews = Israel.

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Correct...ROME WAS THE ENEMY. not 2023 every part of Revelation except the last chapters is done.

And?

Confused I am

Thanks for clarifying the order of events.

😂 nope that doesn't even make sense 😂😂😂😂

Don't forget the hordes of preachers who appeal to people because they SOUND good, they are excellent speakers and project an air of superior knowledge of God's word BUT they are FALSE preachers. Their doctrines are unscriptural and they spread lies as if they were truths! They identify as Christians yet their messages are tainted with lies and pagan teachings which will end in destruction of such ones and their Ministry. (Babylon the Great)

OF COURSE the false prophets are from the Church, and they are sometimes pastors and teachers. Look at all the famous pastors falling right now. ALL of them stated they were giving people the word of God. The Bible says we have itching ears and run to man for false words. Uhm...TBN...Hello. the charismatic movement? where everyone has a Word for someone? people calling themselves prophets on tv and youtube? all of theses people claim to have the word from the Lord, like a crystal ball or the witch of Endor. they might not call themselves the christ but they expect people to follow them and give them MONEY as if they were the christ-they even say they represent the Christ to manipulate people.

He did a great video within the last couple weeks about the rapture you should look it up. Very different than alot if what people believe

I don’t think he believes in a rapture.

There will be rapture, but NOT pre-tribulation.

The rapture is a false doctrine and is mainly derived out of 1st Thessalonians. When was this book written, to whom, and what does it say? Written circa 52 A.D. to a church that was present in 52 A.D., this letter was not written to you. In every chapter Paul/Silvanus & Timotheus (authors) tell the church members that Christ is coming ch 1:10, 2:19,3:13,4:15-16,5:23. If you received a letter telling "you" that the Lord was coming 6 times what would you believe? Exactly. When our Lord was being led away to be crucified; Jesus turned to them, saying, “Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. He returned in the first century and destroyed the temple in judgement fulfilling the law. Matthew 16:27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Daniel tells us Rome would be in power when the everlasting kingdom would be established: Daniel 2:44, 7:14, 9:24. Christ quoted from Daniel and told "them" (his audience to whom he was speaking) when "you" see the abomination, not us: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) The entirety of the New Testament authors all tell their immediate audience that Christ was coming, in their lifetime. Paul, John, James, Peter all say the same thing. Christ was sent in the last days, Hebrews 1:2 The "last" days were 2,000 years past. Peter said he was living in the last days, Acts 2. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 The word harpazo is used several times in scripture. It means to be caught/gather/taken, some scholars even insinuate a robbery connotation. So, who was the book of Thessalonians written to? A church When? circa 52 A.D. This letter was not written to you. It does not apply to you. You are not a member of the Church of Thessalonica. In chapter 4, the church members are obviously concerned about what has happened to their members who have already died, physically, verse 13. Why? Paul had already told them 4 times in this letter that Jesus Christ was coming. They were looking for him. In verse 14 Paul is telling them that God will also gather them, the ones who have already died physically. If you die a believer, where do you go to reside? Heaven This is your final abode. Where does Abraham, Isaac and Jacob live? Christ was sent to redeem/restore all things in heaven and the earth. Acts 3 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Almost all of the prophets talked about the "last/latter" days, this is where the New Testament writers get their doctrine. The saints in heaven are not leaving their abode; they are simply included in the "gathering", which is the resurrection Paul preached. In verse 15 Paul tells this church, that they were going to "be alive", breathing, when the Lord returned. And obviously they would not precede, go before, the saints who physically died and were already in heaven. The gathering/resurrection/restoration was for all things in heaven and earth. Verse 16 the dead in Christ (a believer who physically died and is now residing in heaven) will be restored/resurrected/gathered first) Why? Christ was sent from heaven by his Father. If you live in heaven, then you obviously will participate in order first. Verse 17 then we which are alive and remain, we (these are breathing Thessalonian church members) Paul told "them" that they would see the coming of the Christ, 6 times in this letter. To "meet" the Lord. Just like harpazo has a meaning, this word meet is apantesis. What does this word infer to a first century person? This word is used for a formal meeting of a dignitary. Everyone in antiquity knew this word meant that a dignitary was coming to your city. They knew this meant that you would send out a welcoming party and usher that dignitary into your city, where they would remain. It never refers to someone coming to your city to get you and take you to a different location. The second coming/resurrection that Paul preached had nothing to do with physical bodies. He tells us in Acts that his doctrine on the resurrection comes from the law and prophets. This message is sent in love, your friend

​@@rockkstah2550 it's called pre-trib rapture bc it means the rapture will happen before the 7 year tribulation.

Depends on how you define the Greek word translated angels (simply means messenger) as well as what it means that the elect are gathered around the earth. Look up how often the phrase “under the heavens” or “from one end of the heavens” is used in the Hebrew Bible then look at what it means in each occurrence

@@AboveReproachMinistry "Gather together" is Strong's G 1996 'They shall be assembling' future active 3 person plural. This leans toward an ongoing activity. Jesus says in Matthew 18:10 "Take head that you despise not one of these little ones, for I say unto you that their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." So we all have an angel/s I've witnessed mine.

Greetings Matthew, gather is meant to bring everything under the reign of Christ. When Christ rode into Jerusalem you will find him saying, O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! The next verse he tells them in so many words your temple is going to be destroyed. When you gather everyone together, you get the good and the bad, just like letting down a fishing net. When Christ returned he had to: The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity. How do you remove the wicked? You end their reign. The pharisees/priesthood was corrupt. The temple was their stronghold and power over the people and actually the known world. The entire known world sent gifts to the temple; the priesthood was filthy rich. Read James letter to the 12 tribes scattered, pay specific attention to chapter 5. your friend,

How do you know it's the truth? others would disagree with it, so are they all wrong?

Excellent observation Sir

Exactly..... Half way across the world it's like lunch break while this or that Country is just going to bed....

Possibly 👍🏼

@@brianharris136 @AboveReproachMinistry forgets that Paul prophesied to the gentiles the Day of the Lord and His coming. Why would Paul do that if it all these things only concerned Jerusalem? "Oh hey by the way, this has very little to do with you, but Jerusalem is going to be laid waste, and afterward it's going to take several dog years for the news to reach you so that you may be convinced that what I said was true." Clearly there was much more going on than meets the eye in scripture. But, for the preterist theory to survive there must needs be some cherry picking. This young man would do well to remember this: Be careful not to look at everything spiritually, or else you will end up overthinking everything. And be careful not to take everything literally, or else you will miss out on the things that can help you grow spiritually.

@@brianharris136 quote--- That’s exactly what it’s saying along with Rev 8. Rev 8:12 Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.--unquote Why not a half of the earth? As Night would be. It means 1/3 of the stars will NO more show, 1/3 of the moon will not be seen, and and 1/3 of the sun will be GONE!!!

Revelations is fake. Author is John Patmos not Apostle John.

Greetings Matthew, EVERY MOUNTAIN and ISLAND REMOVED FROM ITS PLACE is not a literal event. This is how the prophets spoke, as if everything was falling apart, when God would judge a nation/peoples this is how the prophets described the event. If you read Isaiah 1 time, this will make complete sense, actually almost all of the prophets spoke apocalyptically pertaining to judgement days. You did mention: every slave and free person hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; and they said to the mountains and the rocks. Isaiah prophesied the "last days" of the old covenant in chapters 2 - 4. Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days. Isaiah 2:10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, verse 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth. verse 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks. Jocephus, an eye witness to the wrath upon Jerusalem in the first century, chronicles the book of Revelation and mentions the people hiding. This message is sent in love, I love you Matthew, your friend

It's all metaphor for the end of the world. John meant rome, it's clear in the text. Seven hills? Rome. Blood of the martyrs? Rome 666-Nero Caesar-Rome. It's all Rome. John thought Jesus would destroy Rome and the rest of the world when he came back. Stars can't fall from heaven, the people of that day clearly thought the stars were created as symbols used by God and for light at night and that heaven was right above the earth. you could take a ladder up to heaven if you were an angel and there was water above the firmament according to Genesis. We know none of that is true. John was writing an apocalyptic book, a common style in his time, to show Jesus destroying Rome because they killed HIM and persecuted his followers. Simple as that. The last chapters focus on a time after Rome is destroyed and we get a new heaven and earth. Done.

@@SuperCazmac Revelation is not fake. it was a apocalyptic writing about Jesus destroying ROME for persecuting Christians in his day and the return of Christ to destroy Rome and the world so we get a new heaven and earth. and yes, it's likely John the Revelator is not John the apostle. The church clearly made that up so that Revelation could get added to the New Testament canon. It's in the writing of the ancient church so we KNOW that's the case.

Finally a commenter with some sense.

Κυρίου (Kyriou) Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 2962: Lord, master, sir; the Lord. From kuros; supreme in authority, i.e. controller; by implication, Master. So - Day of the LORD is the DIRECT GREEK meaning. You cannot change a definition to match your doctrine - the Scriptures are the source of correct doctrine - NOT your understanding!

The rapture is a false doctrine and is mainly derived out of 1st Thessalonians. When was this book written, to whom, and what does it say? Written circa 52 A.D. to a church that was present in 52 A.D., this letter was not written to you. In every chapter Paul/Silvanus & Timotheus (authors) tell the church members that Christ is coming ch 1:10, 2:19,3:13,4:15-16,5:23. If you received a letter telling "you" that the Lord was coming 6 times what would you believe? Exactly. When our Lord was being led away to be crucified; Jesus turned to them, saying, “Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. He returned in the first century and destroyed the temple in judgement fulfilling the law. Matthew 16:27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Daniel tells us Rome would be in power when the everlasting kingdom would be established: Daniel 2:44, 7:14, 9:24. Christ quoted from Daniel and told "them" (his audience to whom he was speaking) when "you" see the abomination, not us: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) The entirety of the New Testament authors all tell their immediate audience that Christ was coming, in their lifetime. Paul, John, James, Peter all say the same thing. Christ was sent in the last days, Hebrews 1:2 The "last" days were 2,000 years past. Peter said he was living in the last days, Acts 2. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 The word harpazo is used several times in scripture. It means to be caught/gather/taken, some scholars even insinuate a robbery connotation. So, who was the book of Thessalonians written to? A church When? circa 52 A.D. This letter was not written to you. It does not apply to you. You are not a member of the Church of Thessalonica. In chapter 4, the church members are obviously concerned about what has happened to their members who have already died, physically, verse 13. Why? Paul had already told them 4 times in this letter that Jesus Christ was coming. They were looking for him. In verse 14 Paul is telling them that God will also gather them, the ones who have already died physically. If you die a believer, where do you go to reside? Heaven This is your final abode. Where does Abraham, Isaac and Jacob live? Christ was sent to redeem/restore all things in heaven and the earth. Acts 3 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Almost all of the prophets talked about the "last/latter" days, this is where the New Testament writers get their doctrine. The saints in heaven are not leaving their abode; they are simply included in the "gathering", which is the resurrection Paul preached. In verse 15 Paul tells this church, that they were going to "be alive", breathing, when the Lord returned. And obviously they would not precede, go before, the saints who physically died and were already in heaven. The gathering/resurrection/restoration was for all things in heaven and earth. Verse 16 the dead in Christ (a believer who physically died and is now residing in heaven) will be restored/resurrected/gathered first) Why? Christ was sent from heaven by his Father. If you live in heaven, then you obviously will participate in order first. Verse 17 then we which are alive and remain, we (these are breathing Thessalonian church members) Paul told "them" that they would see the coming of the Christ, 6 times in this letter. To "meet" the Lord. Just like harpazo has a meaning, this word meet is apantesis. What does this word infer to a first century person? This word is used for a formal meeting of a dignitary. Everyone in antiquity knew this word meant that a dignitary was coming to your city. They knew this meant that you would send out a welcoming party and usher that dignitary into your city, where they would remain. It never refers to someone coming to your city to get you and take you to a different location. The second coming/resurrection that Paul preached had nothing to do with physical bodies. He tells us in Acts that his doctrine on the resurrection comes from the law and prophets. This message is sent in love, your friend

@matthewmiller In 2Ths 2:2, the Greek word =christos, is (Christ) in the King James bible.

@markmoore The Rapture was a mystery = 1CORINTHIANS 15:51

He's only returning once.

Yeah I wonder how the abomination of desolation will corrupt Gods temple when his temple is supposed to be our bodies

@@cephas5053 Exactly! We are God's temple now. The abomination that makes desolate was in the 1st century for the temple that was still standing.

The temple was the abomination that makes desolate, that's why YHWH destroyed it.

@@thenarrowgate3063 No! It was not the temple. It was the people who rejected their Messiah and rebelled and then went deeper and deeper into wickedness until final destruction of the city. The physical temple just like Jesus said. But then He was prophesying about the future temple His body. And that body is us believers. Christ is the head we are the body.

I think that what people call "the rapture", is actually our born again experience when we first come to believe in Jesus Christ. We become spiritual sons of God when we're born again and we're sealed by the Holy Spirit to help carry out God's will in earth as it is in heaven. Then when we die, we "sleep" until the Great White Throne judgement when all will be raised to meet the Lord in the sky and the sheep will be separated from the goats, final judgment will be made, the old will pass away and a new world will begin where Christ will reign as King forever and ever.

And the seal of the Lamb? You can't discuss one without the other. If we're to look into that time period we find coins declaring Caesar to be God. Using such a coin may have been at least analogous to what's described in Revelation. But the Mark of the Beast isn't mentioned in Mathew 24 or Luke 17/21. Are they connected? Perhaps, but that places no burden of proof on our friend here in regards to what he was talking about. My own opinion on the Mark is that it's a symbol for idolatry and not a litteral physical Mark (and certainly not a microchip or a vaccine). The seal being the indicator of who's loyal to Christ (it's visible to angles but not to us). I will admit that maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. It very well could be that there is/was/will be a physical manifestation of these spiritual truths 🤔 I can't rule it out, but I'm not compelled to believe it must be so.

You mean unbelief and rejection of the gospel? Absolutely. Been happening everyday since the fall

No, I don’t mean unbelief and rejection of the gospel. I’m speaking technically. A worldwide mark for trade, business, and commerce…kinda like what the United Nations and World Economic forum are working on right now.

@@AboveReproachMinistry Do you think "buying and selling" in Rev 13:15-18 is referring to gaining and potentially loosing belief, and not ment literally? May I please ask, what is your thoughts on Rev 13:15-18 and Rev 20:4?

,Or is the mark of the beast “another” hyperbole too.

Biblical reasoning?

@@AboveReproachMinistry one needs to remember that everything about the Bible is middle eastern with Jerusalem as the center piece. GOD JESUS as the center of it all is given. It’s not a euro- anglo centric Bible , all of the writers are Jews and for the Jews first with the gentiles being grafted in. Today there is Israel and everything about Matthew 24 besides the temple destroyed in 70AD will come to pass. Again it’s about Jerusalem.

Still no biblical evidence just your own human reasoning and presuppositions. If you’re gonna make the claim that it’s a future event for Jerusalem, you have to show the biblical data

@@AboveReproachMinistry Matthew 24 explains it plain and clear kid.

It really doesn’t clearly explain your perspective. If it’s so clear why has there been so much theological, scholarly debate around this?

What about the budding fig tree? You have my attention. Please bring forth evidence to disprove my conclusion

@@AboveReproachMinistry I asked you which generation Jesus is referring to in Mat 24:32-35. Obviously, the generation did not exist when he was on earth physically since he said the fig tree would just be budding. So which generation is it?

The Bible is clear this haven and earth will be destroyed by fire and a new heaven and earth will be created

The bible says new. Not refurbished.

So, we just get remodeled? Heaven too? I thought heaven was perfect.

@@Michael-le5ph earth will be heaven, the outer space heaven where Jesus is right now, is not our eternal home, we will have a newly renovated heaven that we see when we go outside and look up, and we will have a newly renovated earth that's been cleaned up by fire, this is where we will spend eternity, here, not out there.

You wanna know what did happen? Pangea. :) mountains and islands broke off. Wake up.

Not AD70 so not applicable @@BBBB-nd8pl

I think he’s reading ESV version, which is English Standard Version.