The Secret Side of Sir Isaac Newton 

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Excellent video

If history is correct I would say yes he is. Exploring other planets may be the only way humans will survive eventually. So his formulas pioneered this. Great video as always!

I wish I was newton

Great video! It's nice to see another side of Newton than the endless mindless praise. He was just a human, which should be an empowering thing for all of us. Any chance of adding the soundtracks used to the credits list?

lol did he?

@@baymaxred4632 of course he was....2nd most influential person in the entire history of humanity....do you have physics without gravity....

@@TheKumarImpressions THE most influential man ever Not 2nd

@@TheKumarImpressions gravity is still not defined dude. It is still not a physical realizable state/observable/space.Your depiction comes from Classical mechanics, only.

@@maxwellsequation4887 apparently Mohammed is first

72 your welcome

Me in my teens typing 40,042.5 x2

Sounds like you needed a vacation on an apple orchard.

@@Kornelius.1228 edited status.. so you made a wrong answer at first and you realized 72 is the right answer so you edited it XD

@@Kornelius.1228 thanks genius

I double majored in math and physics. I was honestly disappointed with most of my peers, because it felt like I was the only one with such a passion. My entire existence was centered around trying to live up to the greats. Sadly, I got a 3.98 GPA due to getting an A-

@@pyropulseIXXI yes, it's hard for normal people in this era to be so into it because they gave a plethora of distractions. If you think about it, a lot of innovation and new ideas arise from being bored first.

@@BryTheNiceGuy He was autistic. That is why he teached to chairs and tables. but still we can say he is passionate. Extraordinarly passionate.❤

@@BryTheNiceGuyit’s impossible to be bored in this modern world with its countless sources of entertainment. I find myself often thinking deeply about complex and unique ideas, only to shortly thereafter bury them in the back of my mind to play video games or watch TV or RU-vid. It troubles me how much my potential is constantly suppressed by the availability of entertainment.

@kramarancko1107 absolutely. And new ideas are easily ignored or neglected when another one comes in usually in the form of a notification or a sound.

He published his major work only when he was 44.

He likely stole others work otherwise why erase them from history? Man of faith?

@@jd2161 He was paranoid and was worried his work would not be accepted and be criticized

@@venkat4167 Isaac is a parnoind baffoon.

No doubt that sir Isaac Newton calculate the motion of heavenly bodies

Newton "The calculus thief".

He never actually said that ... It was Tesla

@@crimsonnite9291 Yes. Possibly Tesla quoted Newton at some stage? Multiple sources confirm it as Newton.

He said that when he lost millions in the stock exchange

I was thinking the same😂😂

I'm going to make another branch of mathematics any time now.

I was thinking the same too lol

So we all can relate to newton lol

@@amaterussPrinciples of covidae mathematicae

That's right. Awesome comment 🌈

Invisible and can carry signal

ultra violet too?

Newton not dicovered infra-red spectrum.

@@grzegorzlagut8917 Yes, he did. He had thermometers placed in order from a prism. The farthest one got hottest even though no visible light was seen.

There are still people who value an educated mind.

Great❤

Isaac Newton was definitely not The Greatest Genius, and he is definitely not the father of Mechanics or the father of the law of Motion. Ancient Civilizations were already practicing these things. Isaac Newton did not invent Calculus.

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@@arunsreetej7587 Coping???

Yea...but now we have a lot of them, lets focus on our future

I don’t like how you refer to them as a archetype....there is no duplicate of those people and there will never be again, every person is unchallengeable and incredibly unique.

@@bigpapisaunds Nah not referring to them as an archetype dude, just saying we lost many people with such levels of potential to change the world due to lack of education, illiteracy, and all in those days.

@@tufail1823 We lose people with potential all the time to the mundane and the monotonous, it happens. We only have two solutions to this problem. 1)Either we change our school system from a one that was designed to strengthen the resolve and efficiency of child labor, turning it into something that more caters to the needs of different children, or 2)We stop worrying about progress and potential and just appreciate life and people for the things that come our way and the choices that they make.

iv thought of this many times. and its because of what newton had said; 'if i have seen further than any one, its because i stood on the shoulders of giants'. i have no doubt that there were geniuses exisiting thousands of years ago, not just the ones that made discoveries. its just that, they had little to work with, so didnt get any work done.

Just because you struggling with calculus problems does not mean you can't invent math yourself. If you are curious, ask yourself and others a lot of questions, and keep thinking and spending a lot of time to problems, you will see that you have empowered yourself far beyond any "intelligent straight A student".

@@programlearnorforget best advice, don't doubt yourself, always be curious.

This is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention

@@idks477 Yes but necessity is only the spark and for that spark to turn into fire you need fuel (in this this case your brain's capacity) and then to keep that fire on you need even more fuel. People all around have necessities but only few have the capacity to turn that into an *invention*.

@@programlearnorforget :(

7. Binomial theorem

8.Newtonian and non newtonian fluids and newtonian disc

@@dsingsit That sounds like it could be two separate points. But thanks for adding more info.

@@archivesoffantasy5560 I forgot some more newton-gauss line,newton rings and newton's law of cooling

thermodynamics too

Damn if life expectancy in the UK was like around 30 in the 1600s, then how did Isaac Newton who was born in the UK in 1643 lived till the age of 84. Because between 1643 and 1727, the average life expectancy is definitely lower than the life expectancy today, and yet Isaac Newton lived till 84, so I was wondering how he manage to live that long

​@@ninjapirate123 the average life expectancy was low because kids died young. But if you survived childhood then you would live about as long as today.

@@caezar55 ik that but I'm talking about in the past, the years where Isaac Newton was alive. I'm askin how he managed to live so long in the past

@@ninjapirate123 people still lived long lives back then, there just happened to be a high child mortality rate

@@DeepForestRex Are you sure about that? Because I've heard that the worlds average life expectancy back in the 1600s was around 30 to 40 years of age, so it's quite possible that Isaac Newton could live this long

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This is underrated

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Yahh

Or we would have died :/ Actually

That made me wonder how many such people weren't lucky enough?

yes but how many others were missed!

tats it Jammy boy

Damn if life expectancy in the UK was like around 30 in the 1600s, then how did Isaac Newton who was born in the UK in 1643 lived till the age of 84. Because between 1643 and 1727, the average life expectancy is definitely lower than the life expectancy today, and yet Isaac Newton lived till 84, so I was wondering how he manage to live that long

@@ninjapirate123 others smol bren he big bren

@@taehyungshands what

​@@ninjapirate123people did live long, infant and child mortality rates were high which brought down the average.

@@taka-taktak oh but Isaac Newton wasn't the one who had a high child mortality rate

Not only that, but his work on work on metaphysics and religion are actually the majority of what he wrote about and are still somr of the most influential texts in the history of religious ideaology. Few people give the man his props where he would want them, and when asked his biggest accomplishment he responded "dying an unblemished virgin."

Binomial theorem as well

Currently studying engineering, and I can't help but notice that whatever the subject, you can bet your ass Newtons name is in there somewhere. Wether it be optics, math, mechanics, etc etc. It's insane what this man has contributed.

@@spiggensengineering1963 even in thermodynamics( Newton's law of cooling)

He didn't discovered calculus he extended it .

@Cactuss Science and Islam goes together, Islam contributed to science in many ways too. However, since i am interested in science, and also a muslim, in case I found something like that, and some people would want to kill me for that, I would simply tell them to fuck off, because they are indeed wrong. The way I see it, everything around us is created by God, so exploring science is exploring everything he has made. Ofcourse there will always be people who call science devils work, but if we had listened to them you really think we would have processors and rockets? I dont think so

@Cactuss you will probably shit your pants reading about golden age of islam, talk about "sources" that you dont even know, "lmfao"

You are welcome:)

@Cactuss why is it that everyone thinks there's this binary system of either being a scientist OR following a religion. Science and religion can go hand in hand just fine, but both of them need to know their place.

@Cactuss muslims =/= Islam , man is inherently flawed and Islam isn't. Don't blame the mistakes of man on religion.

Now that's something.

*facepalm*

bruh

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Indeed. The planets must have been set up by somebody. The universe and life are the most disturbing phenomena to ever happen.

As a scientist and thinker, Einstein was great. But as a mathematician, he was not in the top echelon.

​@nav6496 give us one tesla theory useful. Tesla maybe a genius, which mean nothing.

@@Seisoksmost stupid comment ive come across this day maybe the whole year

@@eliaslopez-tb2hi math? u d7mb

Bro these tesla fans comes outta nowhere and claims some extraordinary

Underrated comment

Fyi brain may is an astrophysicist.

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His greatest invention was the cat flap.

Lmfaooo

Yeah

but our intelligence can stop this end . but only if we want .

@@skepticsapiens4149 yeah tell that to the people STILL denying climate change

@@stastu6484 one day we all will be changed . we humans are capable of greatness but only if we are together .

@@skepticsapiens4149 the corrupt politicians and their fossil fuel CEO friends will never change

Newton was a lifelong animal lover

Those research papers were said to be Newton's laws of gravitation papers and the dog was a cat in my class

i too have heard about this incident in Newton's life. i think it shows his Spiritual Maturity , equanimity and love for animals. 🙏

@@soorajks2774 yeah

Damn if life expectancy in the UK was like around 30 in the 1600s, then how did Isaac Newton who was born in the UK in 1643 lived till the age of 84. Because between 1643 and 1727, the average life expectancy is definitely lower than the life expectancy today, and yet Isaac Newton lived till 84, so I was wondering how he manage to live that long

@@ninjapirate123 by living alone

@@ninjapirate123 A combination of luck and onset of modern medical science. Newton was thankfully spared during plague of London wiping out 1/3 of it's population. Assuming you avoid a epidemic of disease (deadly pathogens come and go every few decades), your chances of survival go up dramatically. During Newton's time, the exchange of literature between Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists were widespread, and the development of light microscopy allowed people for the first time to observe and explore bacterium's in real time. This made it easier for physicians and scientists to create a series of preventative measures for diseases and thus increased life span for many people in Europe.

@@ayushstark6334 But according to research, those who lives alone are less healthy than those who live with other people

@@lol-pu3co That could also be true, or maybe he's just lucky

@@user-zv6nl2ut9r Holy shit it's the man

@@user-zv6nl2ut9r omg its isaac pewton

same

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Yeah, you just justified that 😂

Cool

He likley had aspergers like me.

He was an extreme introvert, as am I. They say Newton always steered any conversation to his subjects of interest, and I am exactly like that. But my gift isn't an extreme IQ. My gift is wisdom, which Newton also had. And I would bet that Isaac Newton would have gladly traded all of his discoveries for the knowledge contained in my little inspired book, which can be read in less than 5 minutes: "The Book of God," which can be read for free at the A Course in Truth website. THIS is what alchemy truly is; not the transmutation of metals, but the transmutation of the human soul - from limitation to The Limitless.

Schizoid

*if I see further it’s because I stand on the shoulders of giants

We cannot compare these two geniuses. Thats the problem. In a logical sense, Albert Einstein was more into scientific approach (i know that his ideas were mostly theoretical) than Newton. This video is an example. However, they are 2 geniuses.

both of you are wrong tho, thats the thing

@@arian6565 ?

“Taking mathematics from the beginning of the world to the time when Newton lived, what he had done was much the better half.” - Leibniz “Fortunate Newton, happy childhood of science! … In one person he combined the experimenter, the theorist, the mechanic-and, not least, the artist in exposition. He stands before us strong, certain, and alone: his joy in creation and his minute precision are evident in every word and in every figure.” - Einstein *he stands before us (…) alone* Einstein basically calls Newton the greatest of all time here. Though Maxwell and faraday were as big inspirations to einstein as was Newton

what about euler or gauss

good information

My birthday date is 4 january 2004 and the day is Sunday, date and day looks like same, but it does not make any sense.

Good catch!

@Tyrese Boykin 😂 but you will know me one day, I hope it may happen...

The difference betwen Gregorian calendar and the new one of today is 14 days . Orthodox Christians are selebrating twice the New Year Eve !

Came here looking for this comment ;-)

Ikr

And they chose Hawking in particular while the post was also held by the legendary P. A. M. Dirac before Hawking.

@@aayusharya6899 I completely forgot about Dirac.

@@aayusharya6899 probably because general public recognizes Hawking more but there is no denial about the pure genius of Dirac.

And lead to our end in 2060 lol😂

very true

Yeah on TIKTOK?

@@anonamemous6865 True.

@@aceiam4370 It's a reference to some mathematicians. There are some mathematicians that disappear for years and come out with a ground breaking equation that invents space travel or something.

Correct.

“Taking mathematics from the beginning of the world to the time when Newton lived, what he had done was much the better half.” - Leibniz

Leibniz had better notation though. And he actually used integrals to find areas under curves, while Newton simply thought of it as an antiderivative.

@@star_ms Finally someone with an understanding of mathematics history.

They were both faced with similar questions around this time period

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Underrated comment.

No, stop making excuses you are not capable that’s it

@@hlogilehlogonolo5438 yeah

@@zylnexxd842 bro I was joking you are capable😂 but it won’t be easy

Well if we are so distracted then how is tech becoming better and more powerful each year. We are using the tech to improve and invent the tech

Lol

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Lol

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It's said right human are evolving backwards

Apparently the apple thing isnt real. He didnt “discover” gravity, it was an Indian dude

Alchemy is not science

@@xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 it does use scientific principles

@@z_6077 Elaborate

@@z_6077 Hellooo? Can't elaborate? Having trouble finding scientific principles in ALCHEMY?

@@thedude9734 True bro. Atleast you have a logical explanation to its contribution to science unlike the other guy who shouted alchemy is science and left the chat when asked to elaborate

Hmm on the smarts spectrum, you sound like you're pretty far up the scale!👍

Chemistry as opened up more questions than answered. Even put doubts on life coming from non life.

@@skullbrain122 What?

It even keeps doctors away

@@yveskourieh an apple a day keeps a doctor away and makes Newton think.

@@maxwellsequation4887 plenty of vitamins and also pain when falling on head lol

@@yveskourieh lol

throws apple on doctor* doctor: disintegrates*

That's literally the point tho, maybe work on your receptiveness to sarcasm

son of the richest king ....never invented useful the rich just enjoyed their luxury but poor home harsh environment gave newton opportunity to think on cool subjects and none other countries managed to acheive what only 1 or 2 countries acheived in physical and theoretical science ......

Well, Aristotle. But Aristotle had to invent the whole idea of thinking of knowledge as groups, chemistry, geology, plants and animals, and developing a body of knowledge for that group by observation. I mean, Aristotle was starting from scratch.

Yes. The only one who comes close is French chemist Antoine Lavoisier!

Science is built upon science, exponentially. Newton did a lot of building on science himself, but wasn't the first nor even close to being the last. It is good to recognize important contributors, but let's not forget the plodding work-a-day science that has and continues to connect the little dots in between great discoveries.

@@Randrew Quite right. Why the cell phone wasn't created in the 12th century.

@@Randrew As Newton himself said, "I only saw the things I saw by standing on the shoulders of giants". Basically it is the times which bring out a Newton, an Einstein, or sadly, a Hitler. There is a famous poem addressing this sort of thing in a very dark troubling way: Yeats: "The second coming"

Remember "Good things take time"

@@daksh8298 That's what I want to believe. But how much time do they need ? Einstein and even Hawking got theirs .

@@rome8726 remember the movie "The man who knew infinity" based on the life greatest mathematician Srinivasa Ramanujan, showed so little of his accomplishments (in terms of the hard work he did) when compared to others great personalities biopic like "The Theory of everything" (yeah I know this one is mostly romantic but... Still), hardly anyone will recommend Srinivasa Ramanujan sir's biopic over Hawkins sir's biopic... So I just wanna believe that it will still take some more time but when the final result will come, everyone will amazed, for example some TV channel like history TV made one small series over Einstein and it was poorly received plus was criticized a lot.. . P.s. I'm not saying that "The man who knew infinity" was a "BAD" movie.. it wasn't just good enough...

there are 2 good documentaries. I watched both

@@swakal8868 Who want boring documentaries. We want movies.

That is so true! I wonder what he would have said had he met stephen hawking and einstein. He would have been bewildered by the progress made with the help of his inventions.

@Ryan Alex Of course bro. Sir Isaac is one of the few..

Yes

@Mythical okay

@Ryan Alex What about Gallileo?

@Sebastian Montoya everyone calculates things that already existed in reality. Einstein calculated the Photoelectric effect, yet it exists since the beginning of the universe. Tesla calculated AC, but it was already existent in the universe, and he found it. Hell, whoever calculates how to find a black hole, black holes already had locations. Does that take away from them? No, because they discover things we didn’t even think about

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Thank you! Though I'm trying to slow it down, which will become apparent in future videos :)

@@Newsthink no need to slow down though

Genius indeed!

like scientist think faith means blind faith ......

No student says fuck.you are overacting.

*students all walk out of class in protest* *Newton continues lecture*

Exactly!

@@_yawol_ I DO!

@@rohiths3554 okay...

And become a genius

@@j_respect5948 Not many geniuses in NY

Which maths topic u like the most

@@lifehope4201 calculus bro

With me

@@SunilGupta-xx5ff love multiple integrals

@@indradutta8289 thik hai

I checked, Wikipedia explains Newton came up with the idea of putting ridges on the edges of coins; if anyone took a clip or even shaved the coin (which were high quality gold and silver), the ridges were removed. This had been a problem at least since the time of the Roman Republic, and probably true in any civilization that used coins.

He didnt discover gravity, he enplaned the effects of gravity in a mathematical sense

how was he a theoretical physicist? gravity is not a theory my guy

Its a theory

No he was not perfect his laws of thermodynamics were proven wrong as a mathematician Ramanujan was perfect till date there are no faults in his equations

@@Idontcare-qy9yb Ramanujan is badass but that doesn't make him better than newton tho!

@@thegod2291 I guess you don't even know his contribution in the field of mathematics Newton's name is famous because he was European no doubt his contribution was immense but telling him better than a person whose only 25% work is understood by the scientists and still has given the equations for black holes is madness

@@Idontcare-qy9yb I think u clearly know the fact that mathematicians aren't celebrated same as physicists right. You know mathematics its a pattern most of it makes sense some don't . And the parts of mathematics that newton introduced to the world has done so many things to the world and simply created modern science as we know it. Ramanujan on the other hand considered to be the greatest mathematicians of all time but that doesn't make him good as newton because his work has only been used for some little parts of physics. Not little but relativisticly to newtons calculus ofc. So my point is math with itself is just some bullshit, its just a something a kid would play with or a genius idk what ppl celebrate tho.

@@thegod2291 so I was comparing them on the basis of maths because Ramanujan was a hard core mathematician not a physicist but telling that maths is played by kids I am sorry it's not that simple Ramanujan's equations help us understand both quantum world and the black holes which helps us to understand the universe and ik that physicists get more recognition than mathematicians after all people are more interested in the equations of nuclear physics not the quantum world but this is my opinion as a hard core mathematics fan

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Its not that I am gay, I just don't have time for women, too busy with mathematics making gold out of nothing and writing romantic letters to a guy in Switzerland. -Sir Issac Newton

I also not said this words . *-Sir Isaac Newton*

"Can a fella borrow a french fry?" - Sir Issac Newtown

Isaac Newton lived considerably long for his time. He lived for 84 years, which was very uncommon for the 1600’s

Its fine he can live upto 100 no issues

agreed

Ehhh… No.

@@cafinario Who else do you think it is then? It’s outrageous to think otherwise.

You mean mathematician lol

@@rynxuz Einstein

I guess we’ll see in 39 years :P

What's the reasoning?

I don't think it qualifies as prediction, more of a calculation or estimate.