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The Secret to Mixing PRO VOCALS is Not What You Think 

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Find out what is THE key to getting crisp, up-front, pro-level vocals, EVERY time.
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@chrisebarb4080
@chrisebarb4080 Год назад
The trick I found that helped a lot is compressor chaining. Use 2-3 compressors on vocals, each of them not too high on the ratio, no more than 4:1 usually, with a soft distortion on the last compressor. Also, do your EQ cutting before Compressors, do EQ boosts after compressors.
@TrevWard-G
@TrevWard-G Год назад
So 2 eqs total? Asking cause this comment helped me just confused about the eqs, 1 or 2?
@chrisebarb4080
@chrisebarb4080 Год назад
@@TrevWard-G 2 EQs. Do reductive EQ before your compressors. Then another EQ after the compressors for adding high-end crispness and lo-mid warmth.
@chrisebarb4080
@chrisebarb4080 Год назад
@@TrevWard-G use a parametric EQ before the compressors for gently rolling off 14k+, rolling off 100hz and below, and reducing unwanted frequencies with accuracy. Then use a graphic or solid state EQ for your boosts after the compressors
@yaaaaassss-ws8eh
@yaaaaassss-ws8eh Год назад
Sounds pro af. Gonna try this
@TrevWard-G
@TrevWard-G Год назад
@@chrisebarb4080 appreciate it man i will try this!
@kobecayne5776
@kobecayne5776 Год назад
you literally just leveled up like 30 of my tracks. i cant explain to you how greatful i am
@WyattBrown377
@WyattBrown377 Год назад
Wow that's a lot of compression! Too many gurus mindlessly say stuff like "mixing is all about subtlety, never compress more than -3db" but sometimes you gotta smash it.
@samchoate1719
@samchoate1719 Год назад
Yeah man, gotta use the ears. I train a lot with soundgym and now 90% of the “mixing tricks” type videos are shite. This one is awesome though. I’m liking this channel more and more!
@bijan.sadeghi
@bijan.sadeghi Год назад
@@samchoate1719 thanks for mentioning that I was looking for something like it
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Год назад
Genre dependent. If it sounds good and your rig isnt on fire then why worry?
@B3AZY
@B3AZY Год назад
Honestly they say subtle because they have big fancy equipment but if you don’t you gone have to make big moves
@artbluevibe6629
@artbluevibe6629 Год назад
@beazy so basically with analog gear you don't need to push to hard compared to digital plugins? Was also wondering this.
@zeclomal2265
@zeclomal2265 Год назад
I've heard Jordan repeat this a thousand times...so I knew it was comp!
@NathanJamesLarsen
@NathanJamesLarsen Год назад
This is such a topic that I used to honestly be like "oh only 3-5dB compression to not overdo it" and now... I just don't care as long as it sounds great... just did a vocal session last week and was hitting almost 20dB of compression on my WA-2A (analog) at the loudest parts and it sounded just insanely good. And that wasn't even the post-processing - that's just as we tracked it!
@cylershaw7701
@cylershaw7701 Год назад
I do predominantly extreme heavy music, and even still, I do about 15db to even 21 db if the song needs it. I need to try outboard tracking. It sounds fun.
@AlexSaheli
@AlexSaheli Год назад
Same thoughts here
@famousmwofficial8046
@famousmwofficial8046 Год назад
I actually saw some where back in the day I think it was young guru if I'm not wrong who said over compression is what he uses when the sound is recorded on poor quality hardware. So with fancy equipment that makes sense but for the rest of us that ain't in super fancy studios compression is our friend
@Greybell
@Greybell Год назад
i noticed pop music for the past 3 years have been cranking up their compression and limiter. Using RU-vid stats, their loudness is around 7 - 9 db compared to the usual 5 db in the past decade. I think some songs work with the overcompressed sound but most just sound dizzyingly loud with no room to breathe. I think subtlety is still a good advice, as long as the final product doesn't sound mushy because of the overcompression.
@ToneSherpa
@ToneSherpa Год назад
yeah when you are using a hardware compressor all rules of looking at the meters and not compressing too much just kind of go out the window. not sure precisely why.. but it just works out that way for me. with most plugins though, when you are compressing say 10 dB.. it definitely sounds like 10 dB of compression objectively.
@ramzicle
@ramzicle Год назад
Well, I guess if you never told us we'd never knooow. So, thanks for telling us! I've been going hard on vocal compression for a while now cause of you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@elmanaro
@elmanaro 7 месяцев назад
This comment made me laught so much 😂😂😂
@crawfordmerk
@crawfordmerk Год назад
This way of showing how you worked and your thought process is something that more people need to do. Good stuff, Jordan
@thePunkRockMix
@thePunkRockMix Год назад
Right said! When I started back in 2002 everybody told not to overcompress blabla - and i believed it and wondered why my vocals never sounded right. One day I really accidently had the insert active in on my console with my 1176 on where the GR Hit constantly between -12-20# db - that was the day I realized not to listen to otheres but to the music! Great video and thanks for not telling the boring automation fairy tale. Yes automations is imoportant, but for me clearly at the end of the process.
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 11 месяцев назад
Yeah unless you have a really high ratio (above 8:1) compression with a quite low threshold sounds great
@nanaandbump.
@nanaandbump. 9 месяцев назад
I started the same year, and had the same issues! I developed a somewhat paranoid conspiracy theory that the guys telling you not to compress much do so because they know you are going to struggle to get the sounds you are after, and that means less competition for them. . . The other thing I hated when I was younger was people asking to see what the compressor is doing to make sure it LOOKS like it sounds good. Then, if you are compressing more than a few db, you get reprimanded and you're stuck going down a rabbit hole of having some producer fine tune every parameter on every part of your chain for every individual channel, all soloed, and you spend the next 12 hours creating an absolute nightmare. Then the next day the client goes with your first mix anyways.
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 9 месяцев назад
@@nanaandbump. the best thing is use multiple compressors doing a tiny bit of gain reduction, with a total of maybe 30 db of gain reduction but without having the sound squashed (the amount being too much also depends on the compressor you’re using)
@thePunkRockMix
@thePunkRockMix 9 месяцев назад
@@nanaandbump. Haha. I feel you, that is still sometimes the Case.
@Itsallawesome
@Itsallawesome 2 месяца назад
Dudes right. The vocal sound people are wanting to hear is the aggressively compressed and upfront vocal. Use whatever you’ve got to make that happen - vocal riding/auto level plugins, upward compression, regular compression, etc
@camonthejam
@camonthejam Год назад
when you mentioned how the compressor was emphasizing the attack/annunciation of the vocal, it all finally began to make sense to me. thank you !
@cylershaw7701
@cylershaw7701 Год назад
SUCH a good example on why compression is so important on vocals. Especially hit records like you were saying! Awesome job man!
@smeemusic
@smeemusic Год назад
I'm so happy to have found this channel. This is what I was looking for when I found Glenn Fricker's channel a few years ago. I think I was catfished into that channel. This channel has actual mix content. I think I'm gonna cozy up here for a while. Lol. thank you for what you're doing!!!
@np466
@np466 Год назад
Glenn was the 1st channel I followed. Then I realized how obnoxious it can be and moved on lol
@xSirEnderx
@xSirEnderx Год назад
That man’s got some hot takes
@selloutplayer
@selloutplayer Год назад
I learned this after 2 years of my mixing journey. Thank you for just straight up putting it up there!
@stripedelicstudios
@stripedelicstudios Год назад
I love it when a video comes out on exactly what I'm struggling with. I just couldn't get vocals to sit right. Now I'm gonna compress them much more! Thanks!
@jelleepit
@jelleepit Год назад
I knew the effect I was after years ago when I first started to work with a singer. I just didn't know how to achieve it. I even tried making her sing behind bubblewrap! I then discover compression and it all fell into place. Now I have discovered side chaining with reverb and delay my life is complete.
@samxday
@samxday 6 месяцев назад
Bubble wrap 😂
@sansproductionlounge8083
@sansproductionlounge8083 28 дней назад
This is the third time I’ve watched this… I feel like it’s sinking in man. Flippen love your stuff Jordan.
@bogatibokorakos
@bogatibokorakos Год назад
OMG, this just solved my biggest problem in my current mix!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, Jordan! :)
@charliekey2979
@charliekey2979 Месяц назад
I knew you were talking about compression since the beginning, however, I would never imagine the possibility of stacking several compressor together for a vocal! Thank you for the great tip!
@ralliev9013
@ralliev9013 Год назад
dude i struggled for sooo long and most of the time just didnt know why my vocals wouldnt fit in with the rest of the song. This changed everything even though its sooo simple omg
@maxiwirth
@maxiwirth Год назад
To be fair: once you've wrapped your head around compression which is definitely the basis for a great sounding vocal, EQ, Layering and Reverb/Delay are equally important!
@SupernovaSun77
@SupernovaSun77 Год назад
I mean this is spot on. We don’t need other mixing channels long as we have this one.
@Pitalopin187uu3
@Pitalopin187uu3 Год назад
i like to use low level compressors a lot on vocals, something i've really been doing a lot lately, it's been helping a ton getting everything balanced and shaped how i want
@samuelbrunson5979
@samuelbrunson5979 11 месяцев назад
Man I so love the way those harmonies sound being raw by itself without the mixing & mastering fx's @ 3:33...Just beautiful and close to being/sounding professional without the enhancements. Love It Dude *****
@salvadoragron53
@salvadoragron53 3 месяца назад
Absolutely, it had it’s own merit in sounding how it did. It all sounded great of course, but I really hear what you’re saying about those raw harmonies
@UndetectableBomber
@UndetectableBomber Год назад
two compressors that morphed my mixes: the OSS compressor from Analog Obsession & Crammit from Sixth Sample.. i recently did a vocal mix for an upcoming song featuring Bizarre, and Bizarre's vocals were already mixed and sounded pretty amazing. The mix i did for the other artist, who had recorded his vocals at my place, just weren't sitting right until I added Crammit. After minor tweaks in Crammit, the artists vocals were at the same mix quality that Bizarre's engineer had done. The OSS was already in the mix and made quite a difference but the addition of Crammit changed everything. Chances are, Bizarre's vocals were recorded on either the u87, the Telefunken ELA M 251E or the C-800G and my recordings were done on the NT1 lol and my mix sounded right up there with biz's mix once i added crammit and made a few tweaks.
@miscalt
@miscalt 7 месяцев назад
Love the pacing and realism of this tutorial. Isnt relying on special gear or plugins - great information - and none of the annoying RU-vid stuff like stopping multiple times to tell me to sub
@GusAndrade
@GusAndrade Год назад
The 1176 Bluey is my absolute favorite compressor for vocals (and almost everything else). Definitely agree with what you said about the attitude it brings to the vocals, specially when you smash it with 10+dB. Great video!
@Pittsburgh_Mike
@Pittsburgh_Mike Год назад
The bluey is great, I love it! When I see a deal on another one, I'm going to grab it.
@sinnersrisemusic
@sinnersrisemusic Год назад
I concur, man! Pushing EQ hard into the bluey is amazing. It's pretty much THE vocal sound.
@EdwinDekker71
@EdwinDekker71 Год назад
Turns out it is what I thought 😂 you say you rarely use reverb on the lead vocal but have you tried *just* using the early reflections, it's great for giving a vocal a sense of space without clogging up the mix. Another thing I like is using a bit of tonal balancing compression on the ssl strip by using a very low ratio, fast attack and release and just a couple of db dignal reduction. Good video!
@DithanBeatz
@DithanBeatz Год назад
Yeah, that works great for songs that are just supposed to be dry and tight.
@andrewforbes5923
@andrewforbes5923 Год назад
This is true, but it's one of several ingredients. In my experience a modern sounding mix is: Slammed with a fast compressor then more subtly rounded out with a slower one (1176 -> LA2A or CL1-B), has serious clip gain automation, is arranged so there's room for the vocal in terms of frequency, uses reverb and slap delay for space, is comped to heck or recorded with an exceptional vocalist or both, is run through a mix bus compressor to glue it to the mix, and is mastered louder than heck.
@elizabethsteele4633
@elizabethsteele4633 11 месяцев назад
Very good walk through . I'm a retired film rerecording mixer and to my ears the best result was when you used automation . Obviously , EQ , COMPRESSION , REVERB , DELAY are all hugely important . But I may hear things differently - a song usually has not much dynamic range whereas a film is all over the place ( in a good way , if well done ) . In film mixing it's the faders - the other stuff is a compliment . Thanks for showing us your knowledge and techniques .
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 11 месяцев назад
It's really painful to automate every single word of a lead vocal to hear it more evenly. Compression does this way faster and way better in my opinion
@elizabethsteele4633
@elizabethsteele4633 11 месяцев назад
Both approaches work well . I used to enjoy riding the faders , almost like a challenge . But without a doubt a compressor at the right setting can sound very good .@@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 11 месяцев назад
@@elizabethsteele4633ah I can see why you like it, I can assure you that doing it in my Mac (not even with the mouse) is really painful 😂😂 the settings suggested by Jordan and his friend Nathan James Larsen (another great RU-vid producer and mixer) work just fine
@codyt5
@codyt5 Год назад
Wow thanks! This is one of the first videos I've seen where I can actually hear the compression effect clearly despite RU-vid own compression!
@6582rg
@6582rg Год назад
I love the way you roll. You don't copy others. You push limits on everything. I love it. Your metal drum mixes sound better than anything I've heard. That covers 46 years of playing drums back to 1977.
@6wav257
@6wav257 Год назад
Starting off my chain a neve1073 emulation, i use cl1b for a smooth high end sound, a 1176 for the excitement, a 2a for body, an oxford inflator for parallel conpression. Tape saturation is important too i usually put it before the 2a. I only did a low cut a bit off highcut and cut some low mids on a ssl emulation.
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar Год назад
I actually thought about this these last couple of days. I've been listening to some music from different genres and it was the first time I really thought about the vocals, the first time I noticed that the vocals were really heavily compressed. And it sounds great!
@sauermusicDE
@sauermusicDE Год назад
While trying to record vocals in a private room with a dynamic microphone (Beyerdynamic Opus39S) and an affordable - but still very flexible - compressor (Behringer MDX2600 Composer Pro-XL) on a Behringer Xenyx mixer (those have these sort of "british" soundig EQ's) I ran into a very interesting problem. Here is the situation: - The compression ratio is around 3:1, soft-knee mode is on, auto mode is on, a bit of de-essing keeps the harshness out, a slow noise-gate is active for signal pauses. - The mic has a noticeable proximity effect (bass frequencies get louder while getting your mouth closer to the mic) - The low cut filter (75 Hz) on the mixer channel is active. - The semi-parametric EQ is good enough to achieve a good sound (at least for my personal taste), no issue here - The more I switch up the gain control knob on my mixer, the more "roomy" the mic sound gets - Increasing the gain to the 2 o'clock position or above will make the signal noisy (still great pre-amps for such a cheap mixer) And here is the issue: My vocals are too silent compared to all the other keyboard and drum machine signals during a song...and I cannot add more gain without making the signal too "roomy" and too "noisy". - I'm using a dynamic microphone because from the very beginning I already thought that a condenser mic would catch up even MORE of the room. - If I get closer to the mic, I get a very "bass-y" vocal sound (totally unwanted...). Remember: The low cut filter on my mixer is already ON! - For a more neutral vocal sound I always try to stay 10 cm away from the mic while singing. My amateur-level singing style is not very dynamic and - at first glance - the ratio of 3:1 seems to be enough compression for my taste. In addition a relatively low ratio like this avoids the typical "pumping" of a compressor. Does anyone here have suggestions about how to solve the issue? I was wondering if maybe something like a Tascam TM-AR1 might be helpful...? Maybe I need another mic (with a higher output level)? Or do I need a more professional mic pre-amp? Thanks in advance for your help. 🙂
@azstratus1
@azstratus1 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your videos and insight! Really appreciate you mix cheat sheet as that really made a huge difference in a recent post-production of a "modern" Elvis tribute show. I adopted your techniques and was able to convert it and tailor it for the post-production. Even drum parallel compression which really worked as you described and demonstrated (from another video). Thanks for your work!
@panzeralienofficial
@panzeralienofficial Год назад
Best video i have ever seen on vocal mixing. Thank you sir!
@seantspence
@seantspence 7 месяцев назад
I heard a good difference in the harmony. The compression sounds like the volume was lowered a little and makes it more comfortable, a professional vibe. Thank you for this video
@johnward910
@johnward910 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. I track analog before going into the box. Everything I track is compressed. Once in the box, everything will get compressed at least one more time via final multi- compression, while some tracks are individually compressed again an eq’d prior to any FX. Have recently been using multi compression on the individual kick and bass tracks. This has worked out well for me.
@judithguriras1055
@judithguriras1055 Месяц назад
@Hardcore Music Studio, I wish I had seen this video years ago when I first started. I used to try everything to get my vocals to sit on the beat, but it wasn't until I tried compression and really focused on it that I got my vocals to blend properly. As a bonus, heavy compression can also bring horrible transients to the forefront, making them easier to track since they are not as hidden.
@GrandmasterKnox
@GrandmasterKnox 7 месяцев назад
This video is not new anymore, but I wish someone showed me it many years ago when I started mixing. Instead, I got some really bad advice such as "only compress 2 or 3db", "don't compress all the time", which are things that only made it harder to actually understand and hear compression. At some point, I had a clarity moment where I realized that nothing of that really matters, if it sounds good, it sounds good. I'll put in a clipper and shave 3db off peaks, and then I'm compressing the shit out of it. Boom, whole thing now sounds more cohesive and present. This video is great advice for beginners, compress the shit out of those vocals and you'll hear the compression in no time. A whole new world opens after that.
@bloodyharprecords4910
@bloodyharprecords4910 Год назад
Another thing to be mindful of is layered compression. You can smash it to give that character and then another to bring some life back to it. Bc totally smashed alone isnt great all the time. Also smashing the saturation on colorful eq’s is part of this “sound”. Different tones per tool and shaping the tone to fit in the mix well. Some people are into sidechain compression but honestly I haven’t gotten into digging the sound. This with proper mixbus compression, vocal bus compression & the vocal channel compressor is more than enough. Even some multiband compression for backing vocals is super nice.
@smithaj171dg
@smithaj171dg 6 месяцев назад
It’s awesome that I found your page. I play in a couple rock bands and wanted to start recording myself to save money. I’ve been recording in my living room for about 2 years now, and I’ve found that I’ve naturally doing a lot of the things you advise, so it’s good to know that I’m on the right track. I’m gonna get into the automation tactics you mentioned and I’ve gone for your free tutorial as well. Thanks for making these videos.
@TheEchoBShow
@TheEchoBShow 3 месяца назад
This changed the way I mixed music. Best video on compression I ever watched
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Год назад
Thank you for this video, I wrote an album over the pandemic and Ive been learning to record and produce the instruments one by one as I've needed to. I'm on to vocals now and this was super helpful. The layering trick was really cool as well. The compression blew my mind, it instantly made my vocals sound like a real song.
@DavidNwachuku
@DavidNwachuku Год назад
Love the straight forward and showing each step fast and Efficient non wasting time content. 10 out of 10
@elonthebass6870
@elonthebass6870 Год назад
The real action-Jackson is compression! More particularly, it’s Parallel-Compression! That’s the sauce. Stable and dynamic. Music is fundamentally MOVEMENT. Create some motion in the ocean. Two concurrent sensations, anchored stability juxtaposed to punchy movement! Alas, that is how thou doth have it young squires!
@Big_Old_Bondy
@Big_Old_Bondy Год назад
Great video. It took me 13 years before I learned how to properly set up a compressor. My ears at first could'nt work out what it was doing. Once you can hear it you can get the balance of attack/relese dialed in, which is crucial.
@sarahcarrillo2128
@sarahcarrillo2128 Год назад
You are truly the GOAT here on RU-vid especially for beginners like me who are just figuring out how to mix their own music. Appreciate this video so much!
@sidemoone
@sidemoone Год назад
the most painful secret is the quality of the source. And it depends on the quality of the source code most of all. You can already listen to your vocals even without hanging anything❤
@neovxr
@neovxr Год назад
Mitigating room modes and ringing can do a lot already, together with other track cleaning. TDR Nova GE with autopilot mode is one of the better tools to help you with this. Let it compute a solution, then back down with the ratio where it takes away too much energy. There is a handful of EQs with a dynamic section and autodetection of problematic frequencies.
@ToneSherpa
@ToneSherpa Год назад
you CAN polish a turd... sometimes.. and to a lesser extent. sometimes it takes a LOT of doing though lol
@jongriffin2608
@jongriffin2608 Год назад
I’ve been looking for the ‘secret’ to pro vocals for 15 years and I still don’t really have it, at least not what I would call pro. The problem with pinning the compression, especially with plugins is it can get pretty brittle sounding. The vocals I like the sound of have punch but warmth also. Also, genre dependent - I think your example works for hard rock. But much less so for folk or jazz and even alot of pop. The real secret of pro vocal is not compression but vocalist and performance. A great vocalist has a tone that as you apply compression pulls out the character. If your singer is average, compression will pull that out. The difference here is what really matters rather frustratingly.
@KingWillMusic
@KingWillMusic Год назад
@@jongriffin2608you’ve got it right my friend. I’m a rapper. When I compress my vocals on a really good take it just pulls that little character out. From there I get to decide how much of that character I want present. Sometimes I record vocals based on what I think they’ll sound like compressed. One of the perks of doing your own mixing and recording.
@sinnersrisemusic
@sinnersrisemusic Год назад
@@ToneSherpa You can! As long as things aren't recorded with like a 1998 desktop mic, you can pretty much polish anything. We have some magic for less than ideal things like drum replacement, getting guitar DI's for re-amping, etc. The source usually isn't the problem.
@stripedelicstudios
@stripedelicstudios Год назад
I had to come back here and say thank you thank you thank you! This is one of the most helpful videos I've ever seen. I've been severely struggling with the vocals in an electronic song I made. After tons of trial and error, I had a deep feeling it was compression, but I was too scared to push it too hard. After seeing your video, I took a similar approach with my CLA76, SSL E Channel and CLA2a plugins. The vocals sit perfectly now and they sound so much more confident!!! Thank you!!!!
@gryndstidyoentertainment2608
@gryndstidyoentertainment2608 7 месяцев назад
So there are a few things I will add here. I would say how your vocals are recorded goes a long way in determining how much compression to apply to a vocal over the course of mixing. If I have the opportunity to record the vocal myself I would already be recording into a single band compressor that works for the level of aggression of the performer (followed by an LA-2A to smoothen transients). So if I or anyone else is going to mix that I would hope that you are not doing 20 - 30dB of single band compression again during mixing. What I would suggest is to look into multi-band compression or dynamic equalization targeted at enhancing the highlights of the vocal and suppressing area of harshness etc. Also how you apply the compression is also important. It is good to understand when to apply compressors to pick transients or ride the envelop to shave some dBs off. Lets not forget saturation or soft limiters too. All I am getting at is that it is important as a mix engineer to apply yourself and good judgement.
@moxenrider
@moxenrider Месяц назад
I keep going back to this video for information and now the song is in my head. :)
@danielbentley7117
@danielbentley7117 Год назад
Totally agree with this. I think a lot of people have been put off heavy compression because tutorials are always talking about less is more and saying things like "if you can hear compression, it's too much".
@danielbentley7117
@danielbentley7117 Год назад
Although having said that, I think A/B comparisons should be gain matched so your ears don't get tricked into preferring the louder version
@ironboy1991
@ironboy1991 Год назад
I have struggled rigorously with this for months and finally you have saved my sanity and passion for this. Thank you.
@frednurk5158
@frednurk5158 Год назад
If you've ever mixed live, the mids and especially the high mids are the ones you'd usually be pulling down if there was any hint of a problem. I don't know any decent sound engineer that boosted the mids live or in the studio to 'make the vocal sound bright'. in fact with female singers you are usually attenuating the high mids. The audio here peaks in the high mids when the singer says 'know', you can hear it and see it in the meters. It's no secret that compression has been used in audio recordings since the 70s. The main reason you compress a vocal is to limit the dynamic range so you can sit it on top of the mix without bringing the vocal peaks up too much. In this recording I would have attenuated that peak when the singer says 'know' with a 31 band graphic, then did the compression, then added reverb if desired.
@ashdeen
@ashdeen 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the vid, I've been trying to do less compression and focus on EQ more lately but my mixes have honestly been sounding worse. So going to go back to playing with more compression and see how it goes. Also that dudes voice sounds so good. But I guess if you never tell me, I'll never know!
@timothythomasmusic777
@timothythomasmusic777 Год назад
Watching so many videos on compression and listening to all the warnings of over compression so I was almost afraid to use it. Thanks for making things a lot "clearer"
@DavidDorenfeld
@DavidDorenfeld 2 месяца назад
Watching this again; you’re the best!
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Год назад
Serial compression with dbx and Opto style compressors for general leveling and 1176 for hitting the remainder with each compressors hitting at about -6dB of gain reduction (which makes for about -18dB). Works for me all the time. Not to mention additional bus compression where a single vocal gets hit with -6dB again and with layered vocals it can get to -12dB.
@coltonrudd
@coltonrudd Год назад
I was STOKED when I saw the song you were working with was "Round You" by Jevani Sanders. Discovered him through another one of your videos, and I think it's great he's worked with you! What a killer combination. I'm only 50 seconds into the video but that alone has me hooked to watch the rest. Thanks for the killer content JV!
@TNT-km2eg
@TNT-km2eg Год назад
Yet another never green
@hoji00725
@hoji00725 Год назад
This is so good it's almost unbelievable to me still. Absolute gem of a video right here, major kudos kind sir! 🙏 You are a lifesaver! Thank you!
@donnydarko7624
@donnydarko7624 Год назад
I'm pretty confident that it's actually parallel compression though because you are able to get all of the benefits of compression without any of the drawbacks. Heavy amounts of regular compression soften sibilance and sibilance is an important when it comes to imparting energy and emotion that is a large part of how we perceive language.
@lippi2171
@lippi2171 Год назад
All the money I spent on plugins I spent on compressors (limiter, mastering and ssl) because I had to realize early on that our ears automatically and instinctually associate compression with pro records. A non-compressed vocal or bass will *automatically* make it sound like an amateur garage band. A consistent blow of good bass and and upfront vocals is what most of us are used to and the key to that is compression.
@ric8248
@ric8248 5 месяцев назад
When you hear the isolated stems (not tracks, but stems) of professionally recorded vocals you realise the compression and delay are very prominent. This video really hits the nail here.
@sethmonroe9603
@sethmonroe9603 Год назад
Man I love your tutorials, the way you explain things is so “ matter of fact “ that it really assures me to go and do it. I would love to see some more troubleshooting videos, as you know, as mix engineers, sometimes we get less than feasible material to work with, I’d love to see how you handle some of the common problems with vocal recordings that were done in a less than ideal environment ect. When re recording isn’t an option. Thanks man, keep ‘em coming!
@ElishaThePirate
@ElishaThePirate Год назад
what a beautiful voice
@victorcobane6644
@victorcobane6644 Год назад
Hell yeah, I've been recording a new song recently and had pretty extreme multiband compression on it, then followed up by a general compressor as well on all of the vocals so far, and I have been thrilled with the results. Seeing this video while looking for tips on how to make it even better is so gratifying.
@django3108
@django3108 Год назад
I make/mix experimental HH for myself and my friends, and this couldn't be more facts. This shit applies to any genre trying to gun for a more "mainstream" sound
@timball8429
@timball8429 Год назад
Good tutorial. Not just compression: use multiple compressors and automation on the vox chain (and dare I say it, a touch of auto tune!), parallel comp on an aux channel, side chain certain frequencies on other instruments (guitars are often the culprits), side chaining the vocal effects, add saturation and tape emulation. I’ll leave it at that.
@bigbillrecords
@bigbillrecords Год назад
I'm glad I found this video and thank you for making it. You're right. In my case, it's everything I've been doing plus carefully position serious compression. That smooth, mellow, polish, and garnish professional vocals have come from compression. This solves my problems. Can't wait to use this when I get artists with blessed vocals since I'm currently using my vocals and I'm no vocalist.
@mikafizz1022
@mikafizz1022 Год назад
Can you improve without all that too? 😢
@Seebob86
@Seebob86 Год назад
Same here.. Found out that compression on my vocal production is the most important point.. Now I usually use 2-3 compressors on one vocal tracks..
@amunahm3324
@amunahm3324 Год назад
I always treat the vocal twice. After tracking it, I run it through melodyne for pitch correction. Then run it through Neve 1073 no tweaking, then through 1176 and LA-2. Then I bounce it out as a stem. After that I import it to the mix and run it through 1073 again, this time for tweaking. Then through summit 100a, manic, soothe2, 1176 and LA-2 again. All other effects are sends.
@channelname4238
@channelname4238 Год назад
The answer's at 5:40 (compression), and I already knew for some reason, even without having ever seen a single video like this, or even learning from audio engineers
@fizziealladin5282
@fizziealladin5282 Год назад
Thank you!!! 💯💯💯
@bobbybowring4499
@bobbybowring4499 10 месяцев назад
it's also clamping down nicely on the gnarly resonance around 600-800hz, (most noticeably at the end of the phrase in the word "know" of "I'll never know").
@suxgegaming
@suxgegaming Год назад
You won't realise how many people need this video, i spent six years wondering what the secret was and i recently found out myself that it was compression, coming into this video i took a guess and knew that was what you were gonna point out, Good stuff
@Quant-Beat
@Quant-Beat Год назад
I don’t produce rock or metal but have been long ago. My vocal approach is extensive parallel processing, and extensive width-doubles, apart from thickening doubling.
@jasonblizzardmusic
@jasonblizzardmusic 10 месяцев назад
I kind of re-found this truth the other day when I was mixing a vocal that wouldn’t sit right. I started playing around with the purple 76 from PA and just smashed the vocal and voila, it sounded like a polished vocal
@DrBrunoDzogovic
@DrBrunoDzogovic Год назад
Once I accidentally added a limiter to the vocals instead of compressor and since then I find the technique incredibly useful.
@louistotalcontrol
@louistotalcontrol Год назад
Excellent video - you continue to build my confidence in the studio & I'm extremely thankful for that!
@tomas_kucccera
@tomas_kucccera 10 месяцев назад
THIS! Is the secret I wanted to find for so long! Thank you, I finally can listen to my own voice and I kinda like it :D :D
@SHTMusik
@SHTMusik Год назад
When I go heavy on vocal compression the vocals seem to get harsh and nasty, plus all those breathing sounds get amplified. I use gates and automation sometimes to get rid of the unwanted sounds and EQs to try to correct the harshness but the vocals start to lose their character. For me, careful EQing of the other main elements, guitar bass, drums, seems to help a lot in giving the vocals more space.
@sinnersrisemusic
@sinnersrisemusic Год назад
The trick is a combination of eq and de essing, and you'll notice that all pro mixers/producers either remove breaths from takes or they've been automated down. The right kind of compression is also important - for example, a fast attack compressor like an 1176 or Waves RVox is going to even out harshness vs something like an LA-2A, which by design has a very slow attack.
@jenniferlaynemusic
@jenniferlaynemusic Год назад
I agree. My vocals tend to be highly dynamic, going from low and sultry to loud high power notes in one phrase, so heavy compression doesn't work as those power notes get squashed. My genre is more traditional R&B, so the genre doesn't lend itself to the type of vocal we hear here. I tend to do highly detailed volume automation, and then use multiple compressors to bake it in. That being said, there's always so much to learn, still learning every day, and I appreciate the one commentor mentioning the difference between various compressors on vocals. Also, the comment the producer makes in the video regarding automating the compression - more intimate paired down sections of the song, leave more dynamics in, fuller musical sections, compress more - was very helpful.
@jenniferlaynemusic
@jenniferlaynemusic Год назад
​@@sinnersrisemusicGreat point re: compressor type. I never rely on deessers. I vol automate breaths and Ss manually.
@kage-fm
@kage-fm Год назад
if you watch EDM sound design videos, people are throwing like 14 OTTs on everything. i wouldn’t be surprised if in 10-20 years there is a return-to-dynamics movement, but in the mean time, i love the squashed sound.
@dumb371
@dumb371 Год назад
this video is gold, thank you SOOO much mate, i spent hours on trying to understand what was the problem with my mixes...i never realized the power of the compressor until i watched this video!
@hammerscheich
@hammerscheich Год назад
that's exactly what I was already thinking and doing almost 20 years ago...and people told me "but you have to use the compressor just in a subtle way...bla bla bla". I was right from the beginning. For shure: the mic and the preamp does a lot too. More than any EQ or FX Plugin. But it is really interesting to hear how different preamps react to strong to compression. ISA One comes undone with it...without quite extreme compression you think "Oh that's a boring preamp..." ...with compression you get a fruity, crisp pop sound...just for example...Just do what you feel like. Not what other people say.
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 Месяц назад
An excellent video on a very important subject. I have a 'little' pro experience on this so... I'm surprised, given the massive clue in the waveform fluctuations, that compression doesn't instantly scream at more folks - especially in today's digital era where you always see the waveform. Of course, the next issue for the hobbyist (and too many pro's) is that you need to remember what the 'Loudness War' was all about. Unless you want to suck every crucial dynamic out of your tracks/mixes, you need to balance the level of compression with the level of dynamics you want to retain. For most music types, you shouldn't 'compress to the max'. For track editing, if you want to take 'compression' to the next level of pro then make use of a volume lane on the track. Here, you zoom in to each word/phrase and boost/cut the volume as desired. That way, you maximise the dynamics/natural characteristics. You can then apply a small amount (much smaller than if no volume lane editing) of track boost/cut/compression to bring the volume to the desired level within the mix. It takes some time to do but your mixes will stand out as a result. Of course, ignore all that and slap on that 'infamous' Waves L1 and continue with the war (and throw the Art out of the window) - that's also the danger for bands who give their hard earned tracks to a studio who's aim is to get a finished product out as quickly as possible by using 'the easy one-click way'. By the way, and this is a huge Pro tip, you 100% MUST(!!!) look at what the compressor is doing to the original waveform by recording it onto another track. I am a wee bit stunned you didn't do that here. It's... 1: A learning lesson for your viewers - they can instantly, visibly see the waveform change! (same applies to a great many other processing tools). 2: You, as the engineer, can see what the compression you've selected has actually done...has it removed those dynamics/gotten too close to flatlining?...what headroom do you have left?...(a big one) are there words/phrases that you still need to manually boost using a volume lane?...etc etc
@bucurgabriel6319
@bucurgabriel6319 10 месяцев назад
You are always so inspiring in the choice of topics that concern a large majority...Thank you for everything you do to help musicians!🥰
@driftingskymusic351
@driftingskymusic351 Год назад
Amen! Don’t be afraid to use your plugins & tools. Twist the knobs!
@kingtchalla2775
@kingtchalla2775 11 месяцев назад
Mann I really like that automation u did tbh 😅 super cool and informative video thanks for Sharin 😊
@ToneSherpa
@ToneSherpa Год назад
compression just adds this energy when you slam it on certain things. it's hard to explain why, but it just FEELS more lively and intense.
@nickclube295
@nickclube295 Год назад
Took me years to figure this out. Had one singer come in to do a Suzy Quattro song where I used the ALL setting on the CLA-76 for the first time - sounded spot on.
@miamisynthwave
@miamisynthwave Год назад
Thank you so much, for this video that really has helped me to up my game as a producer. I’ve always used compressors of course, but I held back a little too much. Now vocal mixning has become a fun, and satisfying process, in stead of a time consuming pain. Im really greatful, Thank you 🙏😄
@LoveStroker
@LoveStroker 8 месяцев назад
One of the better videos I've found in a while. Thank you!
@BobJones-bh9qz
@BobJones-bh9qz Год назад
The #1 most important thing is having a good source, the guy in this video is a killer singer! Although close 2nd after that is compression for sure
@THEDEVBOIS
@THEDEVBOIS 7 месяцев назад
if im being real i’ve learned a lot more by experimenting so many different things and straight trial and error and exploring each FX and what it does and i was able to do a lot more and understand by myself. of course i watch videos but only to clean up minor mistakes. i found out on my own that sometimes you will need 3 compressors max or jus 2 minimum. i suggest play around record and figure out what works for your vocals specifically and then watch videos.
@mukmusicdiary
@mukmusicdiary Год назад
Thanks for the video! Any chance you could show us how you'd approach a full vocal track from raw DI recording (no hardware processing) to Finished? It would be amazing to see the workflow.
@its.dublayemusic
@its.dublayemusic Год назад
goes to show the many different ways to use compression, I tend to focus on my attack and release times to get the dynamics tighter and only compress about 2dB max of GR. I want most of the signal very lightly compressed only trimming off the tops off the louder parts
@areesewitapeace3820
@areesewitapeace3820 9 месяцев назад
This guy ain’t lying 💯
@florabee9283
@florabee9283 Год назад
When explaining to clients watching me mix what compression is, I say it does for vocals what overdrive does for electric guitar.
@TheYealoChannel
@TheYealoChannel 8 месяцев назад
In my experience, compression will get the vocal 80% of the way there, but automation is usually what eventaully takes it over the edge.
@slowkim2548
@slowkim2548 Год назад
compressor로 source에 attack을 만들거나 깎을 수 있습니다. source 가 threshold를 초과할 때, compressor는 attack time만큼 시간이 걸려서 source를 누릅니다. 결과적으로 그 시간동안은 소리가 튀어나왔다가 눌리게 됩니다. 그러면 source에 attack이 생깁니다. threshold를 깊게 주고 attack을 길게 잡으면 극단적으로 attack이 강조되고 sustain이 낮은 소리를 얻을 수 있을 것입니다. attack과 threshold를 적절히 조절하여 원하는 만큼의 attack을 얻을 수 있습니다.
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