Thank you. My problem with tom sweeps is focusing too much on the accents I want, and neglecting the sticking. The tiny, overhead camera was really helpful in this video 👍
Yes! Yes! More CHOPS!!! If seriously, I personally like your channel because you always try to go deeper than others and talk more about concepts then certain licks. Most RU-vid drummers post "coolest lick ever", slow down, show the sticking. This "lick video" is pretty close. But explanation of where those patterns came from makes it worth watching!
i'm not a drummer but I do a lot of beat programming and this is just a pleasure to watch. Brilliantly communicated . also loved hearing about the evolution of your lick
Good stuff, man. I'm used to hearing "sweeps" as a different technique, but this was very cool. I know a sweep as a double stroke where the first note is on one surface and the second note is on another (usually a neighboring drum). I'm new to the channel. Good stuff, man.
Nate, Enjoyed all of those. My only comment regards Bonham's Stairway lick. So many times drummers play that lick, and forget to swing it. That was one of Bonham's greatest assets, which I also think he took from the jazz drummers he listened to and admired. If you play it straight, you might be playing the correct number of notes, but it will sound stiff. Another famous sweep lick I always loved is Steve Smith's from just before the second chorus on Separate Ways. No doubt he stole from Gadd on that one, but still cool.. One of the sickest sweepers is the mighty Dennis Chambers. He does (has done) a one -handed sweep between the floor and snare that's just sick. I believe it's 32nds, and in its basic form is two rights on snare, two kick, two rights on floor. Sweep back and forth between the two at warp factor five. He usually does these on "trash can" endings, though I'm sure somewhere there are recordings where he uses this lick as a fill in a song. It's been 30 plus years, but I think he breaks this down on one of his instructional videos (had them both, just not sure which one, probably Serious Moves). I'm certain there are drummers who have far surpassed this, but I remember the first time I saw it, it blew my mind.. 👍😗
Well said sir! I think of the stairway lick as max roach x4 and then two bonham triplets, to the timing of the fill from Phil Collins in the air tonight 😂 I have been playing it for a year and it is so hard to swing it right.. when it’s right though it’s such a good feeling! I’m gonna go try again now!
@@SeductionSurfCo Well, kind of long math to come to that solution but it does work! It's really a herta, those first four, where I think Max is definitely evenly spaced triplet notes. That's the difference. Thank you for the compliment/reply 🥁
@@mercertj Thanks for the tip in. I think I mis-remembered the fill. I think it was actually snare-floor (1 each w/right hand, then floor-snare (1 each right hand), not doubles on each. Does that sound right to you? Just ridiculous...
I thought this was about sweeps. The only sweep I saw was is at 5:43. A sweep is a diddle or drag played between two drums off one hand. First note on drum 1, 2nd note on drum 2. Flying around a set isn't a sweep.
Have to agree with you. I’m not a huge fan of drum lessons presented this way as opposed to presenting them as the notes the drummer actually played on the kit. It not only makes these things a lot less mysterious but it lends itself less to the kind of layman’s approach to understanding drumming where it’s viewed as a series of gimmicks with gimmicky terms rather than what it actually is: orchestrating fills differently for a different dynamic and dramatic impact within a song.
Tom sweeps are cool, there's no doubt about that. And they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what makes a good drummer. What makes a good drummer is when you have a deep understanding of rhythm, timing, and your first priority, which is to serve the song. Anyone can be taught how to machine gun up and down the toms. That's just muscle memory. It's like--"Look what I can do isn't that cool?" Yeah, that's cool. Now let's see you play a groove for a song that's in 7/12 time and we'll see how cool you are. Just an observation.
Interestingly the pdf you graciously share has a tihai. At 4:02… traditionally I believe it would be called a 15 + 1 = 16. 5+5+5+ 1. From the beginning of the notation provided the bass drum shifts by a1/4 note so the last group of 5 starts on the beat with the middle of the 3 starting on the “ and of the beat. O tho l traditionally tihai’s usually indicate the end of phrase or solo. Great stuff as usual