The SECRETS about Hitting in MLB THE SHOW that YOU NEVER KNEW!

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@ChosenOne 2 года назад

Yo, it’s me “DrDoItchBigh” from twitch. Preciate the shout out. Our light back n forth n chat turned out doing some good for the community.

@OhChev 2 года назад

🫡 you are a legend good sir.

@cooperbrown6530 2 года назад

This low-key blew my mind. Thank you Chef, now I can quit raging when I fully square a ball up on the outer half of the plate with Mookie (extreme pull tendency) and it line out or even bloop out to shallow center field when my timing is good.

@Dstigler12 2 года назад

A lot of good stuff here, now I just need to big brain build a lineup to my tendencies.

@OhChev 2 года назад

yessir 🫡

@REEDFEEDZ 2 года назад

Even though vision doesn’t represent the PCI size like in older games, I should’ve known it played more of a factor. This explains why my swing timing with George Brett is almost masterful with his 125 vision. I didn’t know inside pitches seemed slower for players with extreme pull tendencies. For hitters with extreme push, it makes sense on why I can’t hit inside with certain players as much as outside. I also like how the information on page six is just completely outdated lol. Explains everything I need to know about this game.

@OhChev 2 года назад

🙏🏼 thanks for this comment homie. i love to share with you guys stuff i learn and try to explain it in a way that makes some sense yk?

@Szeszol7 2 года назад

Next video is your lineup explaining why based off knowledge you just learned! It would help us so much with our teams!

@anthonymarcella71 2 года назад

Such a great point about bat speed with contact hitters. Contact hitters have some of the best bat speed IRL, they can get to almost anything and put it in play. Game logic for that makes Leiter ally ZERO sense. Luis Arraez perfect example, contact hitter, is anyone going to logically say he has a slow bat? No, they aren’t.

@OhChev 2 года назад

precisely g

@Bhowell21 2 года назад

Just some of my opinions on this 1. This guide is extremely old and honestly with how it’s worded it wouldn’t surprise me if this was made when contact hitters were still viable ex. Only mentioning 99 as the capped attributes 2. Knowing this about timing windows I think the best hitters will be guys who have an extreme pull tendency or balanced and players with significantly more power than contact or balanced hitters that are 100+ in every stat like the new Matt carpenter being a balanced hitter against righties and power hitter against lefty and is 100+ in every attribute 3. If you know a hitter has an extreme pull or push tendency pitch to the side that the hitter struggles with ex inside to push hitters and vice versa Gunski always talks about how Betts can’t go to the opposite field worth anything and I think that’s cuz of the timing windows 4. Find your play style and use cards that fit with that. For me I like extreme pull hitters and sitting on inside pitches so I would rather use a dansby swanson over biggio despite similar stats

@juggernaut792 2 года назад

When I read it it basically talked about the effectiveness of sliders away to same side hitters when thrown away or low and away and sliders away will allow CH and CB to be more effective low in the zone - then it went on to describe changeups and good quality changeups, sinkers and sliders are meta. They described pitch counts and stuff but I stopped. Didnt see anything on cutters tho

@colt-ms5ju 2 года назад

Chev’s raging was not in vain.

@OhChev 2 года назад

lmao i haven't raged that much in a long time tbh

@stewie77tuhs 2 года назад

This was just mind blowing to my dude. I started to look at everyone now. Like I noticed frank Thomas is power vs lefties and balanced vs righties. At least my parallel four one I see this. And its the same with my HRD Juan soto. He is power vs lefties with just a difference in 16 from contact and power. Dude just crazy what this video told me man. Keep pumping out great content Chev!!

@OhChev 2 года назад

wait what? he's different depending on the batter???

@stewie77tuhs 2 года назад

@@OhChev Oh yeah chev swear hahaa. I just took a picture and everything side by side but forgot you can't even post a picture on the comments. Just checked Ketel Marte too, has contact swings versus lefties and balanced versus righties. It's all coming together now hahaa 😆 seems solely based off the contact and power differentials?? hahaa like the hand book says I guuuessss haha

@OhChev 2 года назад

can you tweet me those? please

@stewie77tuhs 2 года назад

@@OhChev Yes sir papi chev haha I'll DM so someone can get to the bottom of this hahaa

@Jkid5069 2 года назад

I’ve been waiting on you to speak on this since they shouted you out

@OhChev 2 года назад

🫡

@MonkiBrown 2 года назад

I knew low vision made pitches look a lot faster I’ve been knowing this just thought I was crazy since no one talked about it

@OhChev 2 года назад

it's weird because the guide says one thing but SDS has said another thing that's slightly different

@Lowkey_4_0_4 2 года назад

If you really look chev, clutch is the most important stat for the biggest timing window

@OhChev 2 года назад

timing window? thought it was just PCI size?

@no_sourcessle9801 2 года назад

This is why guys like Don Mattingly were underrated

@captonclutch5407 2 года назад

Does this mean Griffey is usable?

@aarondunn8130 2 года назад

OhChev you my favorite mlb the show streamer! Thanks for all your hitting hits. Keep up the great gameplay. Love watching your content.

@khalilwilson2586 2 года назад

I was running my pirates theme team and liover was up to bat. I squared up a ball in the 9th mid-away, it was a routine pop-up to lose the game. This entire time I was upset and the game was working as intended😂🤦🏾‍♂️

@OhChev 2 года назад

lmao RIP

@RayBenders Год назад

I wish the gave Xtreme pull hitters to more legends players

@OhChev Год назад

interesting

@DudeFood_ 2 года назад

Good stuff man, glad to see this stuff getting uncovered!

@OhChev 2 года назад

shoutout to you big dog! the OG on this 🙏🏼

@DudeFood_ 2 года назад

@bobbyheasley1423 2 года назад

Chev is in a lot of people's top fives, But not mine. He's in my top 2 and he's not #2. He should put his advice on a checkbook, because if he says it you can take it to the bank. His tips have helped me go from being an absolutely terrible hitter to being a slightly below average hitter. My other top 2 is CBrev and I wonder who would win between them two?

@jonmarsh8630 2 года назад

So thats why juan soto is so good, he has more power than contact and rlly high vision and is a pull hitter

@OhChev 2 года назад

lowkey yes

@PopOutPaulie 2 года назад

No wonder everytime I was literally just late with a guy like Kenny Lofton it always fell for a hit. It seems like it's better to be just late with high contact low power guys

@johnshoemaker234 2 года назад

i’m prolly gonna watch this again to comprehend it more, but are you saying Extreme Pull hitters with Power are the nicest hitters?

@OhChev 2 года назад

it's tough to say. at that point, play to your strengths

@King_lando112 2 года назад

Can you do this for pitching too.

@OhChev 2 года назад

there isn't as much info for pitching tbh. i can try and look !

@QrazedGaming 2 года назад

None of this actually matters, We're just looking for answers which dont really exist because the gameplay sucks so much , One game you could smack 5 homeruns against 99 p5 randy in one inning guy quits, next game you could face a 94 fast ball and be late on it every time , Connection matters more than the actual hitting its 2022 and we still can't get amazing servers , Call of duty for example if i put my pci on another player and shoot him im going hit him 99% of time unless major lag but on mlb can have best pci and delay on swings all game you aint hitting anything

@OhChev 2 года назад

i think this stuff certainly matters despite the server problems. but i feel u - some really terrible lag these days

@samugibs 2 года назад

Well Jackie is benched lol

@alextheshow1355 2 года назад

Hi Chev , im a big fan good tips , im a new content creator my fan base is spanish speaker can i use this vid an reference to do the vid to them ! I will appreciate it

@OhChev 2 года назад

yes 👌🏼 gracias amigo. soy boricua! mi mama es boricua - un hecho divertido haha (my spanish isn't good lol not fluent)

@alextheshow1355 2 года назад

Thanks so much , men and i didn’t know that part Boricua , Thanks For everything and Inspiring us . 🤝💪🏻🇵🇷

@Bamabeast-kt5fo 2 года назад

Good looks

@BigItalian_Chesseburger 2 года назад

Brick City.

@zachrichardson6316 2 года назад

Why do you keep saying “scan probably made a video” when you obviously know he did 😂

@OhChev 2 года назад

because i wasn't sure? lol scann is a knowledgeable guy, so i assumed he did since this is his content area don't be weird

@rockbottom231 2 года назад

So I guess Ryan Howard is good?!? Lol jk

@OhChev 2 года назад

not quite lmao tell me why his second highest attribute is discipline ... a stat that has no impact on online play anymore???

@rockbottom231 2 года назад

@@OhChev 😂 it was a joke, this video is actually interesting though.

@OhChev 2 года назад

oh i know i know lol

@bendortort2311 2 года назад

first

@jerm7451 2 года назад

Ok this is something I’ve noticed over the years with power ratings and idk if anyone has pointed it out. It started in 20 when they released “perfect” swings and the pci changed to the three dots/diamonds you have in the center. Whichever one is the biggest is gonna be whichever result is easiest to get. Pitchers that have 0 power have the top circle the smallest the middle the biggest and and the bottom the second biggest. This year if you get someone with 65-87 power the top and bottom are about the same size and the middle is huge. And if you have 88+ power the top circle is the biggest the middle is second and the bottom is the smallest. And some ways I’ve seen this work first hand is leaving my pci down the middle and hitting a perfect fly ball on a fastball that you usually would have to move your stick up a little bit for. And the number that your power has to be at changes every year. In 20 it was 87, in 21 it was 85, and this year it’s 88. And for some reason the power numbers offline are different. (Probably bc they don’t go to 125) so when ramone told us the threshold going into 20, that 80 power would be were you saw pretty much all your perfect perfects leave he was speaking to the offline community. So I typically look for cards with 83+ power both sides, so when you parallel 5 them, they’ll hit that 88 power threshold

@tstrings3408 2 года назад

This explains why Jim Edmonds was such a demon in BR. I literally just had to touch the ball with him and it was leaving

@OhChev 2 года назад

his swing path too!

@taysomhill2841 2 года назад

I always thought the tendencies and their effect on timing windows was more like this: Say the swing meter was actually a 1-100 scale, a balanced hitter's green (good) zone would be, say, 40-60, with 48-52 being "perfect". 40-47 being the early side of good, 53-60 being the late side of good, etc. And then I thought the tendencies basically shifted that in a corresponding direction. So a pull hitter's green (good) zone is now something like 35-55 with an extra point or two on the early side to still be "percect", extreme pull would shift to like 30-50, etc. And then obviously the other direction for opposite field guys. I've never really noticed it slowing down inside pitches/speeding up outside pitches.. but rather that it just shifts the window. What would be an early foul ball for a balanced hitter can still be crushed by an extreme pull hitter because their good zone has shifted. And similarly, a swing that was barely on the late side of good and might still be crushed by a balanced hitter, is now actually TOO late for an extreme pull hitter because their window has shifted so far left. Any of that make sense? Is that way off?

@OhChev 2 года назад

that makes perfect sense. in fact , this is a much more accurate description of how timing windows work. bravo 🗣🔥🫵🏻 edit: also internet instability will factor in at a minor level. any type of "delayed input" will! cheers

@simonstark6254 2 года назад

I think that definitely could be it. But the impression I got from page 6 that Chev was going over at the end was that for a pull hitter, your timing window on inside pitches receives an actual bonus, so like going from 40-60 for a good to 35-65, where as they would suffer from more strict timing on the outside, going from 40-60 for a good to like 45-55

@taysomhill2841 2 года назад

@@simonstark6254 That makes a lot of sense to me, too. I think that's probably it now that you say it. Why on earth don't they just come out and explain how this game works?!

@simonstark6254 2 года назад

@@taysomhill2841 Idk man, it's so weird that this is buried away in some dusty corner of the game that apparently hasn't even been updated in a while based on the outdated terminology lol

@nickfoles9987 2 года назад

So from a pitcher perspective, do you think it be smart to look at each of your opponents. And for pull hitter, pitch them outside. Then for push hitters pitch them inside? That makes sense to me and could be game breaking from a pitching perspective.

@JclarkTwoOne 2 года назад

Until a good hitter starts timing you up. They gonna just single and double you to death. Pitching is supposed to be creative not predictable.

@kobeisthegoat332 2 года назад

Yea

@MrSnipes1 2 года назад

I needed this video chev thanks

@victhompson16 2 года назад

I always knew vision mattered more than people gave it credit for. Great vid chev

@nolantxrx7__ 2 года назад

Does your lineup change now that you know this

@OhChev 2 года назад

not sure. it'll impact how i evaluate cards for sure though.

@johnshoemaker234 2 года назад

i have noticed in game sometimes a slower pitcher throwing like 92-94mph Sinkers blowing by me at extreme speed. i’ve also seen some guys Curveballs and Splitters coming in faster against some hitters

@BasedLars 2 года назад

Can we please get pitching approach/tunnels? I know pitcher specific would be a little harder but maybe just for meta pitch combinations

@OhChev 2 года назад

yes sir we can

@chuckervin8387 2 года назад

They need to get top spin back into the game, that is the biggest reason contact hitters suck now. Their line drives just float, when in reality they would have top spin and get down. They screwed up top spin in 17, pulled it out afterwards, but it needs to get back in.

@OhChev 2 года назад

i agree they need to rework contact hitters. tony gwynn is arguably the best hitter ever and he sucks in the game since 19

@chuckervin8387 2 года назад

@@OhChev I was thinking about this as well, you've made a point about Clemente getting that fall over swing a lot. It seems to happen on swings when timing is on the early side of good, even a tad early. I wondered is this SDS feedback saying he's not a pull tendency so that's not the correct timing approach. If so, it makes some sense, but at the same time it robs Clemente of exit velo because they said it in the guide pulling the ball means more exit velo. Well it's hard to pull with Clemente and not get the fall over animation, so if it's not a perfect on an inside pitch (hard to do with him and his swing) he just doesn't drive the ball well at all.

@TheLexi2001 2 года назад

The power thing is real I use this before I saw the video but I went eight and zero before I saw the video and I was using power hitter which is my closest to 12 /0

@NPTTennis 2 года назад

This is probably why ROY Bellinger has been so good for me. His contact is in the 90s and power in the 110s.

@OhChev 2 года назад

he crushes baseballs . he also has an uppercut which is sick

@NPTTennis 2 года назад

@@OhChev appreciate the reply! I'm curious whether his potential 99 MVP will hit better or worse considering he should have much higher contact with just a little more power.

@OhChev 2 года назад

ideal card would be just an upscale version of his ROTY🫡

@CEE80 2 года назад

good video, but it would be helpful if you summarized the video and unpacked everything you went over and how to apply it to lineup choice. I guess you could make another video.

@OhChev 2 года назад

hmm so a video on how to build a lineup? that's cool actually.

@TheLexi2001 2 года назад

So should I swing at more inside pictures or outside

@mitchgoudreau7670 2 года назад

I was using a future stars team build recently and lot of the future stars cards from the future stars program have lower contact (80's-90's) and higher power(over 100). I notice I hit much better with cards that have those attributes than attributes that have higher contact then power or balanced. Like you said if you're a solid player and can put the PCI on the ball consistently low contact/high power guys are the move. I also didn't know how much vision impacts timing windows. Since MLB 18 aside from MLB 19 being an outlier contact hitters have been pointless to use.

@OhChev 2 года назад

it's wild man. great thoughts ^^ future stars cards rock

@amabreup 2 года назад

Dude, I changed my approach to play to my player’s strenghts and saw good results in the first game, 9 runs on 11 hits on HOF. I’ve been struggling to hit this year. Hopefully I can pick it up.

@OhChev 2 года назад

that's dope homie!

@xan9666 2 года назад

Maybe that’s why I hit nothing but tanks with George springer with only high 90 contact and low 100 power

@OhChev 2 года назад

he's a fun card

@jonathanwatson2434 2 года назад

Whats up great video chev I'm Snowball in twitch see u there

@maejorkeyz3298 2 года назад

so essentially for better hits you’ll want hitters with solid power AND contact??

@zachallen4895 2 года назад

I think solid contact good power

@evansmith.10 2 года назад

Nah they’re not lying. I can’t get rid of diamond Michael Conforto. He’s got like 80 contact but 102 power and he hits so well for me

@evansmith.10 2 года назад

P.S. really glitchy swing I suggest trying him out

@OhChev 2 года назад

i love conforto's swing

@no_sourcessle9801 2 года назад

I always thought this

@cityboys5523 2 года назад

W video S tier for sure

@johngoldsworthy7135 2 года назад

Insanely great video. This changed my whole perspective on hitting

@zekechittum1683 2 года назад

Whenever papi chev post it makes my day

@OhChev 2 года назад

😁

@zekechittum1683 2 года назад

Hey papi one more question do you use the tall control freak or the shorter one much love

@jaxxx8246 2 года назад

it really does worksaz 'ntended

@King_lando112 2 года назад

Now I see thy it’s hitting as intended

@SosaBryceHarper 2 года назад

good stuff. I always had a hunch vision made pitchers look slower because 97 Brantley last year was my best hitter and his best attribute was vision

@OhChev 2 года назад

true true! we need the DH in DD so we can use his slow ass lol

@steven_699hd7 2 года назад

Right now I am going to change my ballplayer to 80 Contact and 125 Power ! Hahaha

@OhChev 2 года назад

hahaha idk if it works like that 😭 id have to test somehow

@beas24tmode89 2 года назад

yes father

@Typhilos 2 года назад

This is such an important video for mlb players. Thank you for the great content bro bro

@OhChev 2 года назад

🙏🏼💙

@King_lando112 2 года назад

To give contacts hitters a better use let them hit the ball in gaps and open spots

@OhChev 2 года назад

backspin engine punishes contact guys for sure

@chazatwood4195 2 года назад

Always great content. Keep up the hard work man. Love the videos

@OhChev 2 года назад

thanks dude.

@lambchop2x624 2 года назад

Great vid bro!

@beezyplays4323 2 года назад

Amazing vid

@raptorpk2503 2 года назад

Noti gang

@geeb3505 2 года назад

I apologize ramone

@OhChev 2 года назад

lol

@inkredible_migz499 2 года назад

w video

@OhChev 2 года назад

thank u sir

@lambchop2x624 2 года назад

Seems like guys with around 100 contact and 125 power are going to be the best middle ground and make them the best hitters in the game. Example: Juan Soto HRD.. it checks out forsure .. even my guys the have nearly the same contact and power hit more HRs for me. I changed my cap to a bit over 100 contact and a bit over 110 power

@OhChev 2 года назад

hmmmm