The SHOCKING damage being over GVM causes & how to fix it 

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@@harrywalker968 it's pretty rough riding in the Hilux and LC with GVM upgrade unladen. But that's rare,only ever happen when they're new and haven't been fitted with tool boxes and racks. We generally have them loaded up quite a fair bit and they ride better then. I'm personally going away from my LC and into a van for work. Can still do what the LC can do but far more comfortable and not getting annoyed by wet equipments.

On the OEM vehicle the rear axle capacity would have been exceeded with the caravan on the back. With the upgraded vehicle the rear axle capacity wasn't exceeded. This is due to the fact that the GVM upgrade also includes axle capacity upgrades. The correctly matched spring also transfers more weight to the front wheels. The rake of the vehicle makes a significant difference. Also the wheelbase on the ranger does put the mass decent way forward.

The GVM upgrade for this vehicle gives an extra 570kg payload. It only gives an additional 200kg to the front axle, and 250kg to the rear axle. Axle weights are where people will come undone first, even with a GVM upgrade.

Exactly what I thought. When I saw the 4 corner balance/scale I was so much hoping to see the effect when you load the rear how much the front got unloaded/gets lighter. Even if the 120kg bullbar and winch are mounted up front and not on the bed. Please take this in consideration and do a perfect new test. That we all love to see. Greetings from Germany.

@@cjjoe2385only takes rear axle to 2150kgs. Standard is 2000lgs. Not even worth it

Depends on which upgrade. I based it off the most expensive upgrade which gave you an extra 250kg. Still not much and most will be well over that as well when towing and mildly modified

Man it’s literally the best selling car in the country

Country's full of dumb people it would seem.

Tell me you a toyota glazer without telling me you’re favourite thing to do is glaze toyota.

​@nicholaswicks3077 also the highest rate of warranty claims for new motors before Ford leave you high and dry.

Its probably all to do with warranties.

Cost. Modding 4wds seems popular becuase you see it condensed on youtube but most sold outside of the city will be stock till theyre in the scrapyard.

Because as soon as you start modifieding them the warranty is over. There made shit from the start so they don't last so that you have to keep spending more on them or replace every few years

Because ford has the F150, F250, F350 etc and will be competing with its self at least in NA markets if it starts releasing the Ranger with increased capacity. The factory would rather you buy the bigger truck.

They do most American truck manufacturers offer towing package upgrades can’t say the same to Australia and Europe but here the reason trucks have limits it because they are already so large and most times the weights are set in stone because they physically can’t build a truck with more capacity because it would require a much more expensive license for example in my province in Canada a 3/4 ton pick up so a f250 ram 2500 or Chevy can tow roughly 20000 pounds or 10000kg ish give or take conversions but you are not allowed to tow that without a upgraded license due to the fact that a load like that is waaaaaay different to a smaller trailer and load. End of the day the reason is peoples want comfort over usability these days meaning they keep adding more weight to trucks that already were designed to have a set capacity and they loose more and more capacity every year

No NZ rules are same as Aus. The only exception is no one enforces it in NZ

Combo of actual weights called GLW ( gross laden weight)

In NZ legislation GLW is also defined as max spec rather than actual weight. In fact, GLW is used in place of GVM as different types of vehicles use different terminology for the max specified weights.

So they shouldn't use their work vehicle for work?

@andy37372 Of course, they should, as I do. However, if you're going to overload your vehicle for work, replace the shocks and springs to a heavy weighting .

Nah mate that's not true. Ya don't buy a car just based off its gvm

Exactly. Buy a 4X4 Isuzu NPS.

Or you carry to much stuff and could definitely cut back...

Did you mean if you bought a vehicle not knowing/ planning to upgrade, you bought the wrong vehicle?

Definitely not the case. I worked this out once before. By a new Y61 GU seven seater Patrol and the payload allowed for 7 people's is 88kg per seat (seven seater). I'm yet to fuel it up (120 lts) & carry items. The Patrol payload was way under par. The Y62 addressed this issue. That's why when buying a Y61 I had a Pedders SSM GVM upgrade. The plus, the vehicle actually rode better than standard without occupants not harsh as I expected. With occupant's it was amazing good, all commented how well it rode, even on rough roads. Wrong vehicle? I think not. Manufacturers didn't really give real world payloads in some designs like 7 seats at 88kg max. per seat for a passenger vehicle.

Totally get it mate, but that's the thing - a lot of people aren't looking for one straight out the box and are looking for a way to increase their GVM post-purchase. Not everyone things of it right off the bat!

New utes are designed for city travel not work or 4wding

Honestly that isnt true at all, you commonly pull more then the tow vehicle, biggest thing is proper tongue weight and proper trailer brakes

​@@static_boltagree, been doig it for 20 years.

Number 2 rule, don't let go of the steering wheel.

That's not true at all unless you're driving a hatchback. If that was the case trucks wouldn't be able to move jack shit lol

My t610 weighs 11.2t and I tow upwards of 105t with it 😅

Pedders do offer the cert and modulate alongside all the required engineering documents for any state or territory in Australia (pre rego or post rego). Also for certain vehicles it's all offered in NZ too

Just don’t ask her to loose weight as it will increase the payload. That conversation never goes well 😳

Mummy Influencer life handbook doesn't cover it.

how come? do the laws of physics not apply in Canada?

@@simonr23 no, we're able to get pickups.

@@darrinrebagliati5365I get you. We do too, but our roads and towns aren’t made for the big utes/puckups.

@@simonr23 but they are made for Scania'sand Mack's. Why can't they handle a 2500 or 3500?

Some do include chassis bracing, axle modifications and brake upgrades. They are not cheap GVM upgrades though.

Payload of an f150 is essentially the same as a ranger. Go figure lol

1/2 3/4 1 ton rating is from the 1900s though the 1930s was based on payload of the truck ford model t or a age

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@@4WD247 your reply = my weeks gonna be awesome

Yeah, but the others do it with still larger (and very cheaply built) trailers. SSDD.

B/c those are adequate for standard use, and anything stiffer would be regarded as uncomfortable to the average buyer and probably be more expensive.

yea i like the extra cabs. you get rear seats if you get real stuck and need them otherwise its bigger tray, bigger cab(over single) so you can put more inside like a fridge behind the seats, more payload... they are just the perfect balance for an all rounder. certainly nice being able to put 2 quads on the ute and still have the sides up and room for more gear.

​​@@mmorgz6622 Exactly. I've an extra cab, and I prefer it to the single cab, for more room inside, but still having a proper bed. Puzzles me why in this channel there's almost an obsession with dual cabs, even drive them mostly solo.

@@RogerM88many people have children

Yes but with no payload ie. No passengers, no nothing

@@MrTonaluv its a joke mate

@@pkgoldopalhunting it's the same for all the dual cab utes. But some are worse than others. I'm pretty sure you'd need the single cab version of each to actually carry cargo and tow 3.5t

Nah, that's with all the math added up and dumped in the back

Owners manual if you have one, or the GVM + maximum towing weight. 3100KG GVM + plus maximum towable weight, 2500-3000KG? = 5600-6100 GCM?

@@JSH083 That sounds about right, 6000kg. The towing capacity is 3.5t (Braked) and I’m under the GVM, my boat is nowhere near 3.5t so all should be good to go.

It pains me to see what people tow with half ton trucks. According to Ford my half ton truck is rated to tow 9.5k (which I think is kinda nuts for a half ton) with just me in it of course, but I've got a topper, wife and 2 kids to haul too. Most people don't think about that. When shopping for a TT we decided before we even went to the dealer that our limit was 5k gross and we wanted a generous payload capacity (I saw as low as 400lbs on a 5k gross trailer - I consider that to be an engineering failure) I will admit I never have actually weighed my setup, but visually it doesn't look scary unlike half the trailers I see being towed.

Good. It's hardly ever an issue, and nobody should be *forced* to address non issues

Depending on what sort of weight difference you're talking about with your canopy. This is where a set of parabolic springs are useful. Unfortunately all suspension is a compromise

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I noticed that also

Yep. I rustproof 4wd's weekly. Most now ones have surface rust. NP300s and D-Maxs are the worst. FYI the new Chevrolet trucks don't even have a painted chassis. Just factory rustproof over the bare steel.

Those are crap offroad due to weight, ground clearance and cost, watch mats offroad recovery if you need proof of how easy they are to get stuck. Utes over here have the same payload as an american f150 but theyre much better offroad due to size and weight, people just expect them to do more than theyre made for.

Lots of people also don't have $150k + to drop on American ute though.

G'day!

Honestly if i was ever going to tow a caravan id just steer away from anything in the 'car' class at all. Cheaper and better equipped small trucks out there that are made to do the job without putting others at risk. No matter what upgrades you do its still just 4 small tyres trying to stop a 3-6 tonne brick.