The Shocking Fire Of Swissair Flight 111 | Mayday S1 EP3 | Wonder

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Swissair Flight 111 was a scheduled international passenger flight from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, United States, to Cointrin International Airport in Geneva, Switzerland. This flight was also a codeshare flight with Delta Air Lines. On 2 September 1998, the McDonnell Douglas MD-11 performing this flight, registration HB-IWF, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean southwest of Halifax Stanfield International Airport at the entrance to St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia.
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@annalupton9284 3 года назад

It's so incredible how they can analyze every fragment of the wreckage and reconstruct it to figure out what happened. It's literally a plane autopsy and it's fascinating

@patriciaramsey5294 3 года назад

I wonder would so much work have been done if this crash happened in america

@wioi 3 года назад

@@patriciaramsey5294 of course it would be. It has to be done no matter where in the world it happens it is always done

@tammymize 3 года назад

100% agreed

@GoLakers3900 2 года назад

Men are very capable to a point it truly amazes people when they stop and think. The modern world isn't possible without us.

@GregorioStyreco 2 года назад

Well thats their job. You act like you just came from the Stoneage.

@rommy143 3 года назад

That poor air traffic controller is devastated. I can’t imagine what he must feel.

@marthahanley6650 3 года назад

I hope that he was given counseling for his PTSD which seems to me that he would have. When he said that he "dreamed" of it I would say nightmares. I watch TheFlightChannel but these here are really more determined with real people as in the three or more actors.

@michaeljoseph3528 3 года назад

@@marthahanley6650 Thanks Martha for sending out your care. Hope he sees it. God Bless All.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

He has made public statements about his PTSD. Now he helps other ATCs after critical incidents.

@efulmer8675 3 года назад

The one that gets me the hardest is the ATC who was murdered by the Russian because of a midair collision. The actor for the ATC screaming in pain after seeing two radar markers collide makes my soul hurt.

@TopAhmed1 3 года назад

He should always be blamed for it

@GaisSacredCreations 3 года назад

My brother was deeply affected by this crash. His naval ship, the HMCS Ville de Québec was docked at the Port of Halifax and was the first ship to arrive on the scene that night. He spent 12 hours in the darkness and cold picking up bodies and wreckage out of the water. Most of the crew members suffered PTSD following that sad incident. Just visiting the beautiful SR 111 Peggy's Cove Memorial erected over Indian Harbour, you can feel the sadness that lingers there.

@empacotador 3 года назад

Omg, should be a hell on Earth.

@markrenton1093 3 года назад

I do not mean to sound crude but how could the bodies been intact?

@GaisSacredCreations 3 года назад

@@markrenton1093 I never mentioned that they were intact. and that there were children too. This isn't the place to mention those details.

@markrenton1093 3 года назад

@@GaisSacredCreations , it crashed at an astounding 350 g's if that is possible.

@burningwreckage00 3 года назад

@@markrenton1093 In the words of a coroner from an article who worked on victim identification for this accident, "What bodies?"

@camithewitch5265 2 года назад

The retired air traffic controller sounded so sad talking about this. I'm glad he realised there was nothing he could've done to prevent this. I hope he's doing alright.

@stickyjocky 2 года назад

Same here

@gregoryhawsjr3479 2 года назад

Very tough job at times. Also it’s one of the highest paid federal government jobs.

@SadisticSenpai61 2 года назад

Yeah, the only possible way for them to have survived would have been to ditch the plane as soon as they realized they needed to land. Even then, they still may not have made it. Ofc, they had no way of knowing how bad the fire was or how fast it would spread until it was just too late.

@vincentm.7462 2 года назад

He looked damaged by this

@CaptainFordo21 2 года назад

@roro he's not an actor, smoothbrain.

@angelawerner6921 3 года назад

This show is so good....I literally never want to fly again

@BollocksUtwat 3 года назад

Thanks to this show I understand why its safe to fly.

@jakesnussbuster3565 3 года назад

That's a pretty stupid conclusion

@aBaird-du4jd 3 года назад

Yes

@brianlaroche8856 3 года назад

@@thisaccounthasbeensuspended suspended !!!lol, maybe but fender benders or roll overs usualy have all passengers survive. There is no fender bender on a plane flying down

@user-ej2xz3lx2e 3 года назад

Hahaha

@onethousandtwonortheast8848 2 года назад

I can’t help but think about the second pilot who was still alive one minute before impact. The stress. I know he tried his best. RIP all of them.

@ddiamondr1 3 года назад

Residents of St. Margaret's Bay took to their boats immediately after hearing the crash, searching the waters. I'm not sure why this omission of the efforts of the residents happened but I have read that many were greatly affected by what they saw that night. One fisherman recovered the body of a toddler. Others recovered personal items identified by family and many of the residents met the 111 families and established friendships that continue to this day. A small comfort of connection in a heart breaking tragedy.

@MajesticalHonky 2 года назад

Do you mean the residents of Peggy's Cove? St' Margaret''s Bay is some distance away from where the plane went down.

@roamingirl 2 года назад

I’ve read about that as well- or watched something that included it. Very touching that a community between the different groups was established almost immediately - bonded by tragedy as soon as that first boat was put in the water. FWIW, also interesting from a sociological perspective!

@jefferystutsman6419 Год назад

As did your mom, her being used to following the Navy men

@hmkmk7038 Год назад

@@MajesticalHonky Peggy’s Cove is on one side of the bay, Bayswater, where another memorial is, is on the other. Entrance of the bay between these points goes out to where the crash site was.

@michaelhuebner6843 Год назад

Many things are omitted from shows like these. One of the main factors is the accident itself. They only want to make an episode about the well known, positive outcome, or very old crashes to not scare the general public away from flying on planes. Flying is not at all safe and the multi-trillion Dollar per year industry wishes to keep this lie going. Many people have died in plane crashes and there are hundreds of things that can go wrong. When your engine fails on your car, you pull over on the side of the road. When both engines fail on a plane, you have a 90% chance of death or serious injury. Stark contrast of outcomes.

@MarieJesne 2 года назад

I'm glad Bill decided to share his side of what happened even though it seems difficult for him to talk about. He has a unique perspective and really helped tell the stories of those who passed away.

@patagualianmostly7437 2 года назад

Yes....that struck me too. The man has had a very long nightmare dealing with that very short period of time which ended in catastrophe. Take care Bill.... You did what you could.... I salute you.

@trawlins396 2 года назад

@@patagualianmostly7437 exactly. their jobs are not easy. very few can do that job effectively. he was responsible for a lot of planes landing safely.

@TinyFreya59 2 года назад

I’m glad that he found a way to be at peace with what happened.

@TermlessHGW Год назад

Bill looks like the type of bloke you'd like to have as a close neighbor.

@doggieworld2413 Год назад

I was out there that night, I will never forget that feeling

@GWhizard 3 года назад

As a private pilot, nothing frightens me more than fire at altitude. If i smell the slightest waft of smoke, I'm descending Vne RIGHT NOW.

@tdickensheets 3 года назад

Survivors 0

@GWhizard 3 года назад

@@tdickensheets oh! I didn't feel the need to explain, Thomas Dippinshits, i reduce to approach speed near the ground. Why is there always somebody like you?

@Asifkhan-dl4so 3 года назад

could not agree more with you as some 1 looking at the situation from outside , am i right to say if they had directly gone for landing immediately at the first hint of a smell of smoke .. they would have all lived ,

@Aamir1Sohail 3 года назад

But for commercial flights, is it mandatory to dump fuel before landing? And why don't those huge planes are built with automated fire extingushing system?

@GWhizard 3 года назад

@@Aamir1Sohail Generally, dumping fuel is not for fire prevention cuz the fumes that remain are more explosive than the fuel, i think. Dumping fuel is for reducing the weight in case of a quick return to the airport, i think. Dumping fuel takes time a most fires don't wait, i think.

@PWNsoldier 3 года назад

"Flammable materials do not belong on commercial aircraft" Two hundred and twenty nine people died to teach the aviation industry this lesson. Nobody figured this out before. Wow.

@BollocksUtwat 3 года назад

You should read about the Apollo 1 fire. Same problem.

@paulamarentette695 3 года назад

@@BollocksUtwat That was a horror. Those poor guys.

@BollocksUtwat 3 года назад

@@paulamarentette695 They were sealed in the capsule from the inside and had to use tools to try and escape. It was insane. They never stood a chance. As the head of Mission Control during the Apollo says said, he believes they basically murdered those men through the dangers they exposed them to. Pretty serious stuff.

@FeelFree3 3 года назад

It is ironic that material passed the test.

@gustavolopez3405 3 года назад

hola va mas alla de darse cuenta, yo trabajo con gente y la gente suele hacerse la tonta, algunos por inters economico, otros por porfiadez , te dicen que "nunca paso nada" , o te dicen " no te metas" ... o creenque vos queres hacer negocio cambiando algo ......hay muchas actitudes de el ser humano que son un desastre. muchas cosas la gente SE DA CUENTA , Y asi y todo se niegan a hacer algo y cuando pasa un accidente se hacen los tontos.... es el ser humano, es asi , es triste, pero es asi.

@samkohen4589 3 года назад

I was at Peggy's Cove last year. It is a truly beautiful place. A policeman there told me that artifacts from the accident still come on shore at times. That just a few days earlier a wallet from one of the passengers showed up brought in by the tide.

@hfifm 3 года назад

This reads like something an NPC would say to you in Pokémon

@yoongz384 3 года назад

@@hfifm HELP

@y2daisy 3 года назад

💔✝🙏🌸

@shieevpalpaitine5134 3 года назад

I am also planning on going is there anything to do there?

@samkohen4589 3 года назад

@@shieevpalpaitine5134 The beach is fantastic

@samanthaklein2428 2 года назад

Rest In Peace to my grandpa who died on swissair 111, I didn't get to know him because of this tradgey but he will forever be remembered. RIP To all other victims of this crash and thank you to the first responders

@crocodile1313 2 года назад

I'm sorry for the loss of your grandpa. Hope you are doing ok.

@hustonjames9490 Год назад

So sorry dear

@tylermorgan5230 Год назад

I'm sorry bro much love ❤️ to you

@mentallydisturbedllama473 Год назад

I'm terribly sorry..❤️

@IndelibleHD Год назад

What was his name?

@alexwillis7093 3 года назад

The old saying, "where there's smoke there's fire". When there's fire at 33,000 feet it's an emergency.

@garycard1456 3 года назад

First hint of smoke, even if it is only fleeting and appears to disappear after a few minutes: get that plane down to the ground ASAP, get the passengers out safely and have the entire plane checked over by engineers to pinpoint the cause of the smoke. There should be NO smoke inside an airplane. A bit of inconvenience caused to passengers because of having to divert or return to the original airport is far better than tragedy like the one in this video.

@ytxmobile 3 года назад

Among Chinese airlines any signals of fire are taken seriously, including even false fire alarms. Landing due to false fire alarms has happened on Air China, China Eastern, and China Southern.

@Asifkhan-dl4so 3 года назад

@@garycard1456 agree 100% land immediately at first slight hint of smoke

@quaxky326 3 года назад

@@garycard1456 But it was a common occurrence that happened regularly with the a/c. I don’t see your reasoning, I’m fine if your landing because of an emergency, but not because your overly cautious or ignorant. You don’t have to blame the crew for this, they did every procedure and checklist.

@garycard1456 3 года назад

@@ytxmobile When you are confined to an aluminium cylinder at 30,000 feet altitude, is better to be overly cautious and take no chances when it comes to smoke.

@ninsku3739 3 года назад

I will never forget that day. That summer I flew for the first time in my life and I was pretty scared. My parents told me over and over that Swiss Air is very safe with great pilots and the MD11 was a very safe plane. We returned from our vacation on September 1st, 1998. The next day this crash happened.

@marlonquintana3466 3 года назад

😳😖.

@ninsku3739 3 года назад

@@marlonquintana3466 suddenly things are very close

@gab1606 3 года назад

This summer?- that would be 24years ago girl but I’m glad your sfae

@ninsku3739 3 года назад

@@gab1606 sorry, meant "that summer"

@Brucev7 3 года назад

Don't use the Entertainment system

@LLandS18 3 года назад

I live in Nova Scotia and I was 8 years old when this happened we were staying out at a cottage in Peggy's cove and I'll never forget that sound of that plane hitting the water. When I'm stressed out or upset about something when I sleep I dream about that Bang. I feel for the families who lost.

@jaimhaas5170 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing that story. It must be such an eerie feeling knowing you were there.

@LLandS18 3 года назад

@@jaimhaas5170 I was in bed but my mom saw the plane flying low then min later we heard the boom. She called 911 but they all really knew. The local Fishman were the first out to look for survivors. Unfortunately there were no survivors. I have traveled alot and I my be bias but the Nova Scotia coastline is one of the most beautiful coast lines with some of the most welcome people in the world. I know these things don't mean terrible things can't happen there but it just seems so out of place for such a peaceful area. The province of Nova Scotia has built a place for love ones to remember the family and friends who they have lost.

@novascotiaskater1868 3 года назад

@@LLandS18 I’m glad you enjoy NS so much! It’s a beautiful province and the people are very friendly! I had multiple friends in the Navy who responded immediately and saw horrible tragic things that night and suffered severe ptsd.....

@andrewmjoli8617 3 года назад

Never agine will I Fly

@simna32 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing so sad 😞

@MsFreudianSlip Год назад

My forensic anthropology professor missed the first few weeks of classes in the fall of 1998 because the RCMP needed her on the shores of Peggy's Cove to identify human remains. From how she described it, I'm surprised that there was even one body found in-tact because when she arrived back at the university and we saw her in class she told us a lot about her experience and I'll never forget one of the things she said: many pieces she identified were mere shards and splinters of bone. She said that the plane hitting that fast literally broke those poor people up incredibly badly. The only solace is that they wouldn't have been in any pain - she said that kind of death is so incredibly fast that they wouldn't have felt a thing.

@biker5662 Год назад

Wow. So sad.

@2goblinsinatrenchcoat Год назад

That does offer a strange comfort to know that they didn’t suffer in the end. I am so terribly saddened for the lives lost and their loved ones.

@applesomething 11 месяцев назад

Whoa. I can’t even wrap my brain around how bodies can break up like that.

@kairo6033 3 года назад

RIP to my friend Kyrstal Saugy .you never made it to Switzerland

@evan.5967 3 года назад

Rest in peace

@evan.5967 3 года назад

☮️ ✌🏼 🕊

@veggiedisease123 3 года назад

Was she a friend?

@godfirst7216 3 года назад

@@veggiedisease123 read the comment again

@ZeranZeran 3 года назад

RIP Krystal ♥, So sorry. Hope you are doing well. She is watching you from the other side.

@korbell1089 3 года назад

"initially a small cockpit fire..." There is no such thing as a small fire on an airplane!

@nomiddlenamenmn427 3 года назад

I agree. There is no such thing as a small fire.

@icemachine79 3 года назад

"Small" as in hidden and contained as long as the circulation fans kept running.

@LoneWolf_RO 3 года назад

i agree. outrageous on how the pilots reacted. all the blame it s on them

@icemachine79 3 года назад

@@LoneWolf_RO You have no idea what you're talking about.

@nomdeplume2213 3 года назад

Well technically. One time on Alaska airlines one of the stewards accidentally put foil in the microwave and it caught fire and extinguished it immediately. Id say thats a small fire. Also, it was a breakfast burrito wrapped in paper and then in foil and it was the paper that actually caught fire. He was mortified and so embarrassed that all us passengers felt for him. He apologized to each of us individually as if he had slapped our mothers 🤣 he was such a sweetheart.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 года назад

It is always easier to blame those that no longer have a voice.

@twistedyogert 3 года назад

The fire wasn't the fault of the crew. They did everything they were trained to do.

@mereja108 3 года назад

@@twistedyogert but think about it, the moment there was smoke, they were just doubting that the smoke was nothing. The moment they smell smoke on deck, they have to declare emergency, before anything worse can happen.

@jasonmumbo7123 3 года назад

True

@quaxky326 3 года назад

@@mereja108 No, it was a common occurrence therefore dismissed, they only decided to divert the plane when the smoke started to fill the cockpit with fire. They did everything they were trained to do including checklists and other procedures. It’s okay to be cautious, but it’s never okay to be over-careful and ignorant.

@mereja108 3 года назад

@@quaxky326 true, but in this case, this situation was really bad

@deminalla3993 2 года назад

Major respect for the people who analyzed million tiny pieces to figure out what happened. Im just grateful that they didn't give up after like 2 months and kept going

@wlfgang 7 месяцев назад

Why would they give up? In the western countries (Europe, USA) there are aviation accident agencies that do jobs like these and they get paid for it.

@TheLavennovell 3 года назад

This flight was supposed to be my father's flight before his ticket was rerouted. He never told us before, until he safely arrived home. He passed away on 2012.

@florjanbrudar692 3 года назад

In 2012 but I'm so sorry to hear your loss

@TheLavennovell 3 года назад

@@florjanbrudar692 thanks dear , we still missed him so dearly. He did told us about some bad rumor regarding this flight.

@naaomi 2 года назад

@@TheLavennovell What rumour did your dad tell you guys???

@CraftingTableMC 2 года назад

That was a very close one! Sorry for your loss.

@eddieeclark314 2 года назад

sorry for ur loss plane crashes are horrible

@roxanbabin6680 3 года назад

I lived in st Margaret’s bay. My Dad was in the navy and the stories of the aftermath clean up of the crash still hurt my heart till this day. So many men had to pull out of the water things they could’ve never imagined. Rest In Peace to all souls lost. If anyone around the world visits Halifax, please make a point to visit the memorial of Swiss air 111.

@meinradsigner203 3 года назад

Been there, visited the church of Peggy's Cove, drove all the way from Manitoba to Nova Scotia and back. MS

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

After visiting the graves of the people who were aboard the Titanic. Same kind of thing one hundred years apart.

@scootermom1791 3 года назад

I can't even begin to imagine what your dad and others went through that night. My heart goes out to all rescuers everywhere. They have to witness the unimaginable horrors that many of us are blessed not to witness.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

@H Sh Yes, its a bit further down from the famous lighthouse. About a half hour drive from where I live in Halifax.

@Tawadeb 3 года назад

God rest all lost

@borealiswan2363 3 года назад

My mam nearly took that flight .... we talked so much about it .... tears are coming to my eyes ...... And I remember she had taken that flight the year before because it was so convenient, direct to Geneva ....

@Hashslingingslasher- 3 года назад

I feel appreciative for you and your mumma that she didn't take that flight

@jzk3919 3 года назад

There are few cues that indicate possibility of underlying and predestined causes. Was this during the Clintons` presidency?

@jakesnussbuster3565 3 года назад

@@jzk3919 wtf

@gab1606 3 года назад

GODS BLESSING HE IS PROTECTING YOUR MOM (sorry if you don’t believe in god, I’m just glad your mom is okay)

@pp3k3jamail 3 года назад

Lies

@zachzelman418 2 года назад

Was on a Swiss flight a few weeks ago and got to know one of the flight attendant who also worked for Swissair starting in the early 1990s. Said he knew the crew of 111. Still devastated 23+ years later

@jackiem3740 3 года назад

That poor Dad was still grieving at the time of this documentary. Bless him and his business.

@Planefan1000 3 года назад

Shaw's Landing is doing well for itself - average 4.5 stars on Tripadvisor. Apparently they've changed owners since then

@Cookie-zz2mg 3 года назад

i think no parent ever truly stops grieving, they just learn to live with it.

@donc7984 2 года назад

A wound to the heart more often than not, will never heal.

@dimitriskotsks389 Год назад

There is a german documentary on youtube about swissair 111.His daughter wasn't suppose to be on that flight.A tennis player, Marc Rosset is his name,cancelled his ticket and stephanie shaw took his place.Fate plays painful games sometimes

@jackiem3740 Год назад

@@dimitriskotsks389 WOW!

@idknils2920 3 года назад

I feel so bad for the atc. He is at no fault, still he feels so guilty and insecure.

@TopAhmed1 3 года назад

nah... he is guilty and to be blamed for

@marieanni5401 3 года назад

@@TopAhmed1 How is he guilty?

@PP-ed9cf 3 года назад

True and it wasn't his fault. Being calm and in control is great which is very commendable of the pilots but failing to communicate smoke in the cockpit and the fact that they couldn't see instruments was beyond calm, it was ineffective communication.

@nonnaurbisness3013 3 года назад

@@adriangurges8244 you're talking about a different person then those guys are.

@adriangurges8244 3 года назад

@@nonnaurbisness3013 Do you mean firefighters? Well i mean when your Christmas tree Burns you Just Need a fire extinguisher. And every Plane has one on Board.

@RichartEgli 3 года назад

R.I.P Urs Zimmermann, my parents where friends with him and I knew him and his family. Thanks for uploading and remembering this tragedy.

@justhuman24 3 года назад

My sincere condolences

@bigdaddydaddy3203 3 года назад

What a sad sad shame bless all their souls

@nenblom 3 года назад

Amen

@nenblom 3 года назад

It’s crazy that an IFE would bring down a modern airliner. RIP

@zidanehadeed9229 3 года назад

Do you remember what he was like as a person?

@jameshaviland6183 Год назад

I met Ian Shaw here in Nova Scotia. Since this show was made, he left Nova Scotia and joined his wife in retirement in Spain. The restaurant still operates and bears his name. There’s something about standing by that monument.

@LtNduati 3 года назад

This has to be the scariest air disaster, because of how quickly everything went south. I'm a novice pilot, started flying when I could barely reach the rudder pedals, and used to be a nervous flyer when I wasn't behind the controls, and this is the only scenario that still makes me scared to fly.

@informitas0117 3 года назад

Fire is no joke.

@BrooklynBalla 3 года назад

They really should’ve landed as soon as possible.The cockpit fire procedures back then were very poor.These days it’s mandatory for planes to land ASAP during cockpit fires.

@Bheliar 2 года назад

@@BrooklynBalla They couldn’t. They couldn’t. They couldn’t. Did I mention that they couldn’t? It’s even stated in this very video that we both watched, that there was absolutely no way they could have landed that plane on time. What’s done is done, and that’s the reality. People need to stop coming up with random scenarios in their heads regarding this flight. You don’t land a plane every time one of your windshield wipers don’t work. There was absolutely no indication that there was a fire at first. Again, as per mentioned in this video, smell of burnt electronics or even a bit of smoke is completely normal. There was nothing that could have been done to avoid this tragedy.

@ZeppelinR101 2 года назад

@@Bheliar Finally, somebody said it. Thanks!

@Leetbeast 2 года назад

@@Bheliar yeah there was smoke = fire and they always land immediatly if smoke

@AmDrag5 3 года назад

every time i see a different rendition of this incident, i always have a small feeling of hope that the plane will be able to land safely, even though we all know it doesn't. very sad for all of those involved.

@harindranathk300 2 года назад

But rest assured that whoever investigates a crash , many times over , will publish a final report _ pilot error

@dazzlingextremes389 2 года назад

Me too!!! It's wild how we know how it will end and still wish it to be safe.

@jeandiamond3898 2 года назад

@@supertoasting1011 .p

@larrysproul9424 2 года назад

@@harindranathk300 They should have taken the smoke more serious and landed the plane ASAP . I just cant think what was going on in their minds .

@AmrMoatasem 2 года назад

@@larrysproul9424 It was stated in the doc that the plane wouldn’t have reached the the closest airport before the fire spread. It was doomed from early on.

@LinLin-fp5dw 3 года назад

Ok, now I understand why Mr Beveren was so irritated when he spoke about the entertainment system being newly incorporated into the Swiss planes. What a horrible event that happened. The pilots experienced hell and I admire their composed attitude.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

The IFE system was a new thing then.

@silavantalyn 3 года назад

Totally agreed. I also think it's absolutely incredible that they kept the pane flying for a full 6 minutes after the fire had burned through the cockpit electrics. 6 MINUTES!!! So sad they didn't make it in the end 😢

@sandrachisholm2310 2 года назад

I'm from Nova Scotia and I remember this day like yesterday. It was devastating for all involved, knowing what those poor passengers and crew suffered and the trauma of those who worked in the recovery and investigation.

@BreaMichelle3 3 года назад

You can see the guilt and sadness in the air traffic controllers eyes. I bet there’s not a day that goes by where he doesn’t think about this devastating tragedy.

@DMVRailfan 2 года назад

Fun fact: On the CVR, if you put it in slow motion, the last words from the first officer was “Hello?”

@dexterpagurayan4881 Год назад

@@DMVRailfan maybe that's after being unconscious for a moment

@120-e5h Год назад

ATC was way too casual and careless.

@danni1993 Год назад

@@120-e5h I originally thought the same thing, but then I decided, the captain of the plane is responsible for all the decisions, regardless of what ATC says...HIS decision is final.

@brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

@@120-e5hso you’d rather have them panic got it. When u get a job in hospitality you’ll learn u have to remain calm in situations

@benjamingaiety9158 3 года назад

My biggest fear as a pilot will always be getting a call from the crew stating we have smoke in the cabin espcially of unknown origin

@flyhigh4332 3 года назад

Don't fear, only be wise and alert. If u face such a things in ur life instead of continu the flight, find a better place for landing it. Thank u

@egregiousqueef7781 3 года назад

Or having them get on the intercom only to hear "Pull Up, Terrain - Pull Up, Terrain" over and over in the background, at night while cloudy

@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 2 года назад

If this happens to you, I hope you have a copilot with you who can then stand up and assist the flight attendants to find the origin of the fire ( while you can continue to calmly lead the plane to its destination)

@shreyanayak782 3 года назад

After watching these videos' I have immense respect for all the pilots who fearlessly have devoted themselves in service of the people. Hats off to all these great hero's.

@harindranathk300 2 года назад

But the investigators put cause as pilot error especially if the cockpit crew are no more

@dazzlingextremes389 2 года назад

You are right bc as many times as it all goes great it only takes one time for it to all go wrong and they never know. Just as we never know getting into our cars BUT most the time we have better chances of walking away from a car crash.

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

The pilot was the one to cause this tragedy if he was still alive i would throw him in prison he killed 229 people because he wanted to seem smarter than his co pilot who told him to land without dumbing fuel but pilot insisted to go away ftom the airport to dumb fuel which lead to this horrible tragedy

@WorkWizdom 2 года назад

It's beyond me to think how the pilot can be responsible when the particular flight system was a total disaster. They were facing an unusual situation and I am sure they tried their best to safeguard the passengers. It's highly unfortunate that the entire blame is been put on the pilot as opposed to the company who designed the aircraft

@haranglouis5252 2 года назад

lol airplane are safer than bus. So what about bus driver.

@ScepticGinger89 3 месяца назад

At the time of the crash, Swissair had been going through a process that we continue to see in many companies to this day: the technicians had been shut up and disempowered and the marketing people had taken over. They were the ones who had insisted on installing the entertainment system even though they had been warned that the system was half-baked and unsafe.

@parixy 3 месяца назад

yeah.

@parixy 3 месяца назад

this should be the top comment

@crazifyit 3 года назад

That man who lost his daughter was so sad. I know his wife was absolutely devastated! She lost her daughter AND her husband all at one time! He just left her and moved! He said he was in the right place for the wrong reasons. Very interesting perspective. I hope both he and his ex wife find peace after losing their daughter.

@m.gammon212 3 года назад

THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE OF PEACE. THERE IS JUST THE ABILITY TO GO ON.

@crazifyit 3 года назад

@@m.gammon212 - I think you are right!

@uncletaylorify 3 года назад

People deal with grief differently. Some reach out to those close for support. Sadly some retreat in and push people away.

@carolinemaynard3288 3 года назад

I'm not sure he is blaming the right people surely it's the company who built the plane and the standards that aloud it's use. Also Swiss air moved fast to remove it from all their planes did any other company do so. Such a tragedy.

@crazifyit 3 года назад

@@carolinemaynard3288 - The company added those to the plane on their own. The rules at the time were different. A airline could add things like that without having them tested as strenuously as things are today. Today, they could never decide to add something like that without having the devices certified for the plane. Back then, they could. I think he was so caught up in his own grief that the pain was all he saw. There was a lot of blame to go around, but none of it will bring your only child back! He and his ex got a settlement, but I can guarantee you he would rather have his child. So would her mother. Her mother lost her child AND her husband.

@theblueclue3843 3 года назад

Learning about plane crashes and incidents usually doesn’t affect me but flight 111 is terrifying. So many little things *might* have been able to save them, but at the same time, beyond the instrumental failure none of them made and obvious mistakes. terrifying

@banyana6515 3 года назад

Then you should check out the Alaskan airline crash. Now those people suffered. The plane flew inverted for a while. Eye witnesses said it flipped, twisted, before it hit the ocean. Out of all the crashes I have watched that one always gets me very emotional just thinking how they suffered before they died.

@uncletaylorify 3 года назад

Add to the fact that Alaskan Airlines not only falsified repair records but denied the Chief mechanic request to replace the part that broke and killed all those folks.

@dlobrown3673 3 года назад

Turning away from halifax was a mistake.

@efulmer8675 3 года назад

@@dlobrown3673 We can say what was a mistake and what was not with the benefit of hindsight, but if you were those pilots and accustomed to some small amount of smoke from the air conditioner? Who's to say what any of us would do in that situation.

@TysMommy609 3 года назад

@@dlobrown3673 Also, the fact that they didn’t start coming down sooner. It sounds like it they didn’t wait so long to descend (and if they had communicated the need to dump fuel sooner) they would have been able to land so much sooner. It wouldn’t have stopped the fire but they likely would have gotten everyone off.

@bernlin2000 3 года назад

Perhaps the most terrifying episode so far that I've seen...the fact that a flight crew could do everything right and still spell doom for all aboard, it gives me chills. The kind of temperament the pilot's exhibited might have been their downfall in this specific circumstance, but it's exactly what you would hope for in a flight crew. Who knows what other disaster could have occurred if they panicked? Truly a nightmare scenario.

@targetedandfiring4336 2 года назад

It's so scary to think. That while a fire is raging behind him. Smoke taking over the cabin. The captain probably dead behind him in the smoke. His body being burned alive by the flames. That the 1st Officer kept the plane in the air and did the best he could during his final moments. The amount of pain he must have endured as he turned off the engine. Alone. In the dark. He's a hero too. He did his best given the situation more than would have been able to. Somehow fighting through what must have been unbearable pain with the corpse of his fellow pilot somewhere in the dark of the cabin behind him while he struggled in vain to keep all those people alive.

@vincentm.7462 2 года назад

They didn’t do everything right! If he told him about the fuel dump sooner it might have given them the precious time they needed to survive. Should have just dumped it over Halifax

@user-qz2ld3vt2d 2 года назад

The japan airlines flight was chilling as well. The pilots tried everything to control that plane for half an hour, but it was literally impossible

@kerrynoaro9065 2 года назад

@@vincentm.7462 no matter what they did, they would not have made it to Halifax. They might have had an attempt at ditching the plane, but it would have likely resulted in massive loss of life.

@metalgearsolidsnake6978 2 года назад

see germanwings crash some years ago, also very terrifying.. or alaska airlines crash

@FLT111 2 года назад

Ian Shaw is still alive and well, he featured in a german documentary on the incident of Swissair Flight 111. He is now 84 years old...

@icetooththehybrid4807 3 года назад

Rest In Peace all of those people who sadly died in that crash that was not a good way to go

3 года назад

At least it was quick, they didn't feel it

@christopherhennessey8991 3 года назад

I feel the same way.

@icetooththehybrid4807 3 года назад

@ true

@lesegoyv 3 года назад

@ Most peaceful yet painful death, this gave me nightmares after watching it.

@MichelleQuintiaVLOGS 3 года назад

@@lesegoyv 😢

@breakbad9753 3 года назад

Crazy how they can literally rebuild a plane after it breaks into 3 million pieces in the ocean years later

@jaimhaas5170 3 года назад

DId you hear how cheaply they did it?? That was amazing too. I am sure that if our govt would have tried doing this the cost overuns would put it in the BILLIONS>

@egregiousqueef7781 3 года назад

Glad they do - enables them to troubleshoot and suggest recommendations to prevent future crashes; also enable families to get a little more closure as to the cause and perhaps pursue a settlement with responsible parties

@Guizambaldi 2 года назад

This is the nightmare of ADHD guys and the life opportunity of OCD ones.

@jaimhaas5170 2 года назад

@@Guizambaldi great comment!

@killaken2000 2 года назад

too bad they couldn't find the $500 million in jewels and cash or Picasso's Le Peintre I'm wondering if they ever recovered the remains of the Saudi prince or the relatives of the Shah of Iran

@andrewdillon7837 3 года назад

What is so metal ,,the co-pilot had molten aluminium raining down from above him,,but still kept trying to fly,,the pilot had succumbed to fumes whilst fighting the fire,,worse is,,they were dead as soon as they smelt smoke,,but didnt know it,,kept calm,,fought till the end,, Heroes, unsuccessful heroes,,RIP

@tomwilson1155 3 года назад

Yeah both pilot seats had melted plastic from the burning upper panels that dripped down on them. Horrifying!

@twistedyogert 3 года назад

That was some fire. Aluminum melts at 1221▫F/660▫C.

@arvantsaraihan5777 3 года назад

@@twistedyogert one report said that the cockpit temperature reached 700°C at one point.

@twistedyogert 3 года назад

@@arvantsaraihan5777 Like I said, "That was some fire." :P

@Scratchingforcash 3 года назад

@travpoet “‘’! Yeah,.,? I agree.,!-

@staceyjones1769 3 года назад

So much respect for the air traffic controller for taking part in this ❤️

@SynthD 3 года назад

Even as an amateur electrical engineer, I know there are five main components to a “healthy” circuit. A power source, a load, conductors, a switch, and a circuit protection device. This IFES (in-flight entertainment system) seemed to be missing the last two. How this ever ended up in an aircraft is mind blowing.

@plhebel1 2 года назад

most likely the system was rushed so 1st class would be happy with their toys and secondly the weight , I understand that thermo-protection in circuits, depending on amps/voltage/resistance vary in size and weight but when on an aircraft lite weight is always king.

@SynthD 2 года назад

@@plhebel1 making it from point A to point B is king. The loss of an aircraft plus the lawsuits that follow is the most expensive thing an airline can face.

@jukee67 2 года назад

Left out possibly on purpose?

@patagualianmostly7437 2 года назад

I think adding anything, to any type-approved transport, is risky in itself: Corners will be cut. The plane was approved as "standard" then people start putting accessories on that negated the testing procedures from the manufacturers. It's bound to end in tears.

@orionxtc1119 Год назад

Indeed.... because it was a new element to flying, I suspect the enthusiasm for installing the entertainment system blinded them to dangers....

@raphaellavictoria01 3 года назад

That shot where the bin full of tiny airplane pieces is dumped onto the table is so striking. It illustrates the extent of the tragedy. Just horrible.

@samersijbesma5708 3 года назад

I can only imagine what the controller went through that night not being able to do anything and the PTSD that resulted from that night. I am continually surprised that the pilots didn't just land ASAP at the first wiff of smoke. Rather be safe than sorry.

@John.0523 3 года назад

they just took off with a full load of fuel. in their mind there was light smoke so they could wait a few minutes to dump the fuel instead of a heavy landing or if it was a crash landing, a huge fire ball. also the documentary said they were way too high to land right away.

@tabeajanus8687 3 года назад

they wouldn't even have made it to the airport, or maybe even land, they would've crashed either way

@wernerfoerster3666 3 года назад

PTSD??? lol ... how soft is your generation?

@John.0523 3 года назад

@@wernerfoerster3666 hundreds died under his watch. he probably faulted himself and felt guilty and horrible, it’s sad really. yes he could have had ptsd that doesn’t make him soft

@wernerfoerster3666 3 года назад

@@John.0523 He wasn't in any way shape or form responsible ... comment makes no sense

@adriannalypeckyj2513 3 года назад

This is an excellent produced documentary of Swiss Air Flight 111. I was at Peggy's Cove a few years after this tragic accident and it made me so emotional, it's so sad. If only the pilots had made contact with air traffic earlier in the flight, the moment they smelled the smoke, perhaps they would have made a successful emergency landing. I have flown domestically and internationally many times, and I still have a terrible fear of flying. I wish this crash had never happened.

@TaldrenDR 3 года назад

"...By the book approach cost them their lives" ... same people that would say "he deviated from the book costing them their lives"

@anbee8127 3 года назад

I can't think of anything they did wrong. It sad that they just did not have any time left considering the speed at which the fire spread.

@Trulycanadian777 3 года назад

You really can't please those kinds of people

@LoaThunder 3 года назад

But thats a sad fact, i dont think he blamed the pilots for following the book

@33moneyball 3 года назад

The pilots not understanding the gravity of the situation cost them their lives.

@LoaThunder 3 года назад

@@33moneyball yeah, but they couldn't understand it

@ruzzelladrian907 3 года назад

I feel so sad for the air traffic controller, it was out of his control that he didn't get the transmission from the pilots that they needed to do an emergency landing. The fire already burned all of the wires on-board the plane and its equipment.

@patagualianmostly7437 2 года назад

Even if he had....the fuel dump would have made no difference....they would never have made the runway...check the time logs.

@Jack_The_Ripper_Here Год назад

Hmmmm pretty much his fault he sent them back to dump fuel, he killed everyone on board doing this. He should be charged for murder

@120-e5h Год назад

The ATC was a cause to this accident.

@brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

@@120-e5hthe pilots never told him what was actually going on like he kept saying based on the info he was given he thought there was no emergency

@usmale4915 3 года назад

Horrific, just horrific. I always find tears in my eyes when Mr. Ian Shaw is speaking of the loss of his daughter. It's so tragic. Thank you for the upload.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

Mr Shaw has a place here now. To be close to his daughter. The best and brightest of America and Europe were aboard that plane. Including a couple who Dr Anthony Fauci would have known. Dr Johnathan Mann and Mary Lou Clements, his wife. The top HIV/AIDS researchers. And "a Saudi Prince". His family made a donation to build the new mosque here .

@watchgoose 3 года назад

@@michaelrmurphy2734 Yet he left his wife to do that. Didn't she count at all?

@trentcruise3084 3 года назад

@@keerthivasannambiraju955 He ran the Restaurant for 8 years then sold out and moved to Spain with his new Wife.

@vanhelsingdracula2294 3 года назад

Went to Spain after 8 years, that is correct. But not with new wife. He never separated from his wife Gudula and in Spain they went there together, to live out their last years together again. His son Olivier became a doctor and worked for the Red Cross back then.

@FLT111 2 года назад

Fun Fact: At 4:40 if you look closely, that's the overhead panel of an Airbus A320/330/340 cockpit. This same panel was used in an earlier episode of MAYDAY called Flying On Empty. The panel is supposedly there to represent "circuit breakers". This is what happens when you work in aviation folks..you pick up the small details!

@bernlin2000 2 года назад

Does it drive you crazy when they get details wrong, like the infamous scenes where the narrator says one "found at crash site" airplane part, but they shows another? 😂

@kevinmalone3210 Год назад

It saves on money for their budget when making these videos. I saw them recycle a woman pilot who died in a USAir MidWest flight 5481 crash, be brought back to life, and get used again for a ValueJet flight in 1996, and ended up getting killed once more when it crashed in Everglades.

@Illusionyary Год назад

@@kevinmalone3210 once you watch enough of these you start to recognize the same actors. There's one guy who plays a terrorist in one episode and a captain of a flight in another, lol.

@orionxtc1119 Год назад

Even so, these documentaries are excellent and riveting to watch

@muslimcel4581 Год назад

@@kevinmalone3210 😂😂

@kila11 3 года назад

My Best friend has a cabin out near St. Margaret's Bay. Last time I visited him he took me to the Swiss Air memorial site. Beautiful and heartbreaking. As we were looking out over the water, we saw a giant rainbow overhead. I couldn't help but cry.

@dynasty0019 3 года назад

This was one of my favorite episodes of Mayday/Air Crash Investigation because they filmed the cockpit scenes like a horror film. It's like the fire was an entity just lurking and ready to strike when the pilots were the least expecting.

@Frazzled_Chameleon 3 года назад

The only way the pilots could have contributed to that disaster was if they'd set the fire themselves. Yes, sometimes pilot error is to blame, and sometimes it's just completely out of their control.

@juanpedro4083 3 года назад

I am virgen

@tankthearc9875 2 года назад

@@juanpedro4083 lol

@ket5818 2 года назад

The most terryfying thing about Swiss flight 111 is that no one had made a mistake. Everyone handled the situation pristinely and yet, they still didn't have a chance.

@m.gammon212 2 года назад

ONLY USING CAPS FOR ME TO SEE BETTER - THE PLANE MIGHT HAVE STOOD A SLIM CHANCE IF THE PIOLETS HADN'T TRIED TO DUMP FUEL.

@oldgreg2914 2 года назад

Or sometimes. Someone is involved with the WEF(World Economic Forum), and might know too much about their "you'll own nothing and be happy" agenda.

@bavariangirl123 5 месяцев назад

I have visited the memorial for Flight 111 in Nova Scotia. My friend's cousin was on the plane. This was an absolutely incomprehensible tragedy. As someone who travels overseas regularly, this crash is never far from my mind.

@kessiawright1710 3 года назад

I live in Nova Scotia. I remember when it happened. I stayed up nearly all night watching the news hoping there were survivors even though they hit the water too fast. They almost made it.

@matkodoris9099 3 года назад

I have a smoke detector that does not allow me to light a candle without going bananas. I figured a plane would have had some detection system that could give an early heads up to the pilots.

@livethemoment5148 3 года назад

no you see...that would cost too much and cut into the airlines profit...

@SkarKingg 3 года назад

Your smoke detector is too close to the candle

@Colaholiker 3 года назад

Aircraft did and do have smoke detectors. But you can't have them everywhere. Keep in mind this is not just a lot of open space like your living room, behind the panels there are lots of small compartments, most of them too small to hold a smoke detector, and putting one everywhere + the monitoring equipment for them just drives the plane's weight through the roof. That's why you are supposed to have non flammable materials there, so that even if a wire starts to get hot, the damage is limited to that wire and maybe its direct neighbors. Too bad they didn't really go into why that material passed the flammability test and was certified first, but then went thermonuclear on board of Swissair 111.

@jakesnussbuster3565 3 года назад

1998

@nunyabidness674 3 года назад

@@Colaholiker The Mylar had gone through flammability testing in the most rigorous environment conceivable at the time. NASA has used it for years. The difference was the method of installation. It had been blessed off on for use in spaceflight, and engineers said "That's good enough for us!" The difference being, the Mylar in commercial aircraft isn't changed out every flight, NASA wasn't using 5 year old material. This incident is what proved that Mylar breaks down over a relatively short span of time and loses it's retardant capability.

@jaimhaas5170 3 года назад

That father who left his old life behind to try and feel some sense of his dead daughter is one of the most touching things I have ever seen.

@patjohn775 2 года назад

Doesn’t seem healthy. Unfortunate reality of life is dwelling on loss only creates more suffering for yourself and others in family. Its best to inform your family not to dwell and to “live life normally” when you know the end is near. That way they don’t feel bad about moving on. Unfortunately that wasn’t an option here

@DaniZam41 2 года назад

I feel bad for the wife seems like she lost her daughter and husband

@johnuitdeflesch3593 2 года назад

Leaving your grieving wife is not touching. While a deep and desperate love for our children exists, how can we let that ruin our marriage? I'm sure its very difficult to process a death like this, but one must seek to love the people we have left.

@danielpinzone2800 Год назад

I got to meet him at Peggy's cove Swiss Air 111 memorial I told him my story how I left to pick up my father from JFK to Rome Italy on September 2nd 1998 I had been number nine for takeoff was there 111 was number three didn't find out until I landed in Rome about the crash

@jaimhaas5170 Год назад

@@johnuitdeflesch3593 it certainly is when you feel no sense of direction left. It is a very loving reaction to make your wife safe from all the negative pain you need to release. I have seen this in my own family up close and personal.

@srmj71 3 года назад

I think it's been determined that no matter if they started heading straight for the runway, from the altitude they were at..... it wouldn't have mattered. God I hope I'm never in a situation that no matter what I do, it's already been decided.

@theblueclue3843 3 года назад

that’s what makes this crash so terrifying. there’s nothing the pilots or ATC could have done

@srmj71 3 года назад

@@theblueclue3843 If I were in that same situation, I'd hope they would be able to say the same thing about me, they fought it all the way down, they never gave up.

@stopspam420 3 года назад

The real truth is that we are all living that scenario right now. Our fates are already decided! Just sayin.

@petemitchell9996 3 года назад

If it was daytime there would've been an option of VFR landing in captain Sully's style. But considering the weather, the uncalm waters, and the terrain around Halifax, it's unlikely it would be a good idea even during the day.

@EShirako 3 года назад

@@petemitchell9996 Agreed. They never even knew the issue was so desperately dire until it was far too late even to take desperate measures. It all happened so *quickly*.

@Ryan-eu3kp 3 года назад

The way they put that plane back together was incredible.

@jacksonpower6640 Год назад

I actually just worked on the memorials for crash today (maintenance such as pressure washing etc.) and reading the names of the victims and then watching this show has been quite surreal. My condolences goes out to all the families of the victims and for the rest of the time I’m working on these memorials I’ll keep them in good shape

@uomodonore245 3 года назад

I live in Nova Scotia. I remember the night this broke on the news. My roommate and myself were in shock when we heard Swissair Flight 111 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Peggy's Cove. I'll never forget that night.

@NewyorkRican2191 3 года назад

Rest in Peace Ingrid Acevedo. She was a great woman and Trail blazer in her field. She was such a beautiful soul and friend. You are truly missed!!

@PInk77W1 3 года назад

I’m no aviation expert But I got smoke in the cockpit I make a straight line for the nearest runway

@dynasty0019 3 года назад

In this case it wouldn't have made any difference. If the crew went straight in to Halifax instead of circling to dump fuel, the only thing that would've changed is the location of crash site at 5 miles out instead of 20.

@PInk77W1 3 года назад

@@dynasty0019 thx.

@David-Zita 3 года назад

its not that easy, brother there are procedures to be done. the fire was just rapid they did everything correct.

@PInk77W1 3 года назад

@@David-Zita cool. Just seems like a long time to land. “I’d rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air Than be in the air wishing I was on the ground.”

@christopherhennessey8991 3 года назад

@@dynasty0019 Might they have made it if they were already dumping fuel enroute to Halifax ?

@lumapools Год назад

One of my friends' mom was a flight attendant on Flight 111. I never knew the whole story until now that I watched the video. It must be so horrible losing a loved one in an instant, knowing that they will never come back...

@solmy92 3 года назад

I don't know how I will be able to get on a plane after binge watching these documentaries :/

@Itried20takennames 3 года назад

I suspect you don’t mean it literally, but an average of well under 50 Americans die in commercial plane crashes, compared to 50,000 in car crashes, and flying is also vastly safer per mile travelled. For all emergencies, more than 50% of passengers are fine. That is called a heuristic….(as opposed to a statistic), where because the news knows people like unusual stories (no one would watch a video on annual car crash fatalities), so they focus on the unusual, but the many stories eventually make people think the unusual events (plane crashes) are more common.

@jacquepf7442 3 года назад

Me neither. I am binge watching for 6 hours now

@jacquepf7442 3 года назад

@pepe now I will move on to watching UFO sightings 🤣🤣🤣

@jacquepf7442 3 года назад

@pepe really? what are the odds? Lol. I have to work all day the next 2 days so I will catch up on my days off. Can’t wait! Enjoy your vids! 😊

@BrooklynBalla 3 года назад

@@Itried20takennames Also people don’t realize that even when planes have any problems in flight they rarely ever crash as a result.A LOT has to go wrong to bring a plane down.I’ve personally been on 2 flights that suffered mechanical or electrical issues.One had a stuck landing gear that was somehow resolved in flight and landed safely.The second had an electrical issue that was also resolved in flight but the crew were forced to make an emergency landing due to regulations even though it wasn’t anything critical.

@Ad_Astra_321 3 года назад

I wish Bill Pickrell & His Colleague peace. There really was nothing they could do. How awful for them to live with all of this

@humblehombre9904 3 года назад

I am relieved to know that regardless the plane could never have made it. It takes away the frustration one feels about the methodical, almost unconcerned attitudes of the pilots. I am not criticizing them in ANY WAY! They did a fantastic and heroic job. Who could keep calm, and actually read instructions while this went on. They were trained to do checklists, instead of using their instincts. So, so sad. They did EVERYTHING they were taught, to their detriment.

@alexmacdonald5087 2 года назад

Honestly, as a Haligonian, and fairly regular user of Halifax - Stanfield international, our airport is in a very forest covered area, you can go straight into trees from the runway, I don't think landing with all their fuel and on fire would have ended much better

@jlb8094 Год назад

@largebiff1743ok captain

@brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

@largebiff1743so basically they did everything right and still wouldn’t have made it

@Significantpower 11 месяцев назад

Nothing the pilots did impacted the end result, even if they went straight to Halifax International, the fire would have destroyed control systems minutes before arrival.

@lloydrobert6182 3 года назад

"I'm in the right place for the wrong reason." That line stays in my head. How many times have we felt the same? Various places, various reasons. Combinations that puzzle us, but still are a reality?

@trishalfaro 3 года назад

That guy must have almost felt like he had found the golden ticket.

@nenblom 3 года назад

Well said

@lloydrobert6182 3 года назад

@@nenblom That resonates with a lot of people, I guess.

@Hashslingingslasher- 3 года назад

Poor dude at the end that really just rips your heart out doesn't it

@H384nryN 3 года назад

Rest in peace to the beautiful souls who lost their lives, this is heart-wrenching! For Ian Shaw, may God grant you comfort in your endeavors

@maenelassaad3850 2 года назад

I have watched this very episode at least 7 times, and each time I imagine how hopeless the pilots felt in the last minutes. May all passengers and crew rest in peace 💔, they left us early and went directly to heaven. Maybe it is late, but I share my condolences to all the affected (one way or another) by this tragedy.

@eliz_scubavn 2 года назад

You can give credit that whilst the pilots knew after a certain point that the plane was going to crash and that they’d die, they also didn’t give up trying to do everything in their power to hold on as long as they could.

@charlestidwell5361 2 года назад

The sad thing is that not everyone goes to heaven, only if you have been saved by Jesus Christ and accepted Him into your heart, one can only hope that there was passengers on this flight that were saved.

@EssentialComment 2 года назад

@@charlestidwell5361 So if you imagine that you have an imaginary friend you will be ok? I imagine that the OP was just trying to be nice and you had to take it there

@MrLabtec70 Год назад

@@charlestidwell5361 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a religious fanatic... surprise surprise

@charlestidwell5361 Год назад

@@MrLabtec70 one day you will meet Jesus face to face and there will be no second chances , pray for the Lord to open up your heart, God bless you and your family.

@tubularfrog 3 года назад

My heart aches for Ian Shaw and all of the others who lost their loved ones on this ill-fated flight. I hope they can find solace in the fact that their loved ones didn't die in vain. That people now are traveling much safer based on the investigations and new retrofitting of aircraft. It's really sad that it takes disasters like this to make air travel safer. I wish them all the best.

@tsarbomba1 3 года назад

Many years afterwards he sold the inn and moved to France with his wife.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

The remarkable thing is how quickly it happened. From smoke in the cockpit to crashing it was only about twenty minutes. Less than half an hour. And a very severe fire, some of the aluminum parts in the pilots area melted from the heat.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

I remember where I was that night too. Gus's Pub at Agricola and North street. In North End Halifax.

@michaelrmurphy2734 3 года назад

Swissair 111 was a codeshare with Delta Airlines. The Americans aboard would have bought their tickets from Delta. And in 1998 I'm not so sure there would have been in flight web browsing on the IFE system. And September 3rd is my birthday in fact.

@salonsavy6476 3 года назад

Years ago I took a trip to Nova Scotia,, and paid my respects at the memorial,, it was very sad ,,,

@nukaghoula 2 года назад

The retired air controller guy probably saved a lot of lives by having the plane crash in the water - by the sounds, it was always doomed to go down and it would have been even more horrific if it had been on the land 😭

@aveen49 3 года назад

I always feel so sad after finishing these documentaries..May they all rest in peace I hope they didn't feel much or any pain at all during the last moments.

@Alb410 3 года назад

Old but classic episode. One of the best in terms of chronological event tracking.

@TDH8988 3 года назад

for me is this one the scary one.

@hotelbravoglider 3 года назад

Check the original ATC coms. By far more professional that this!

@Brooke52528 3 года назад

@@hotelbravoglider agreed. They are haunting. This crash and Alaska 261 really got to me the most for some reason.

@emilun77 3 года назад

Totally agree. The first seasons include some terrifying re-enactments.

@efulmer8675 3 года назад

@@emilun77 The 2002 Uberlingen collision (S2E4, "Deadly Crossroads) reenactment is the one that gets me the most: the actor for the ATC screaming when the two radar markers collide makes my soul hurt.

@victoriacyunczyk 3 года назад

The thing that scares me the most about flying is the possibility of fire. Unlike when you're in a car, train, ship, etc, there's nothing you can do to combat it.

@dbclass4075 3 года назад

There is nothing you can do on ship fires either, other than abandon it.

@novascotiaskater1868 3 года назад

Honestly a fire on a boat is equally deadly....but I’d rather be at sea then 30 thousand feet in the air....

@dbclass4075 3 года назад

@@novascotiaskater1868 To be fair, at least there is a possibility to swim, or at least stay afloat. In a plane, that depends if the ditching is successful.

@ZeppelinR101 Год назад

I completely agree!

@brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

Those things can still catch on fire and u can still be trapped

@extremelycreativeusername 2 года назад

The passengers never knew that they were in such a dire situation until probably a minute before they crashed into the water. So tragic

@I_AM_HYDRAA 2 года назад

or better that they were unaware

@CelestialsStorm Год назад

Better they were unaware, they didn’t have time to panic. They just got on a plane, had a diversion, and then nothing

@brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

Honestly it’s good they hopefully didn’t know what was happening

@Del-Canada 3 года назад

I saw this on approach flying over the city and then I saw it when it was heading back out to sea to dump fuel. Found out the next day it crashed. Weird feeling.

@visionist7 3 года назад

I've always wondered if some planes I see fly overhead would crash. Must be a very weird feeling

@Del-Canada 3 года назад

@@visionist7 We were having a few beer on the front lawn and thought it weird to see it going back out to sea. Next day found out it was dumping fuel.

@scootermom1791 3 года назад

Oh sad! I know you didn't actually witness the crash, but that's too close for comfort. I used to have nightmares about witnessing plane crashes. I'm glad they were nightmares and not premonitions! It has to be very surreal to know you saw those pilots' last moments.

@Del-Canada 3 года назад

@@scootermom1791 Halifax is kind of a city of death. Look up the Halifax explosion sometime. Also, I can see the "J Dawson" Titanic grave from my living room window. I live within walking distance of all three Titanic cemeteries. Some personal Titanic videos on my channel if interested.

@scootermom1791 3 года назад

@@Del-Canada Definitely! Will check them out ASAP. Thanks!

@christianblessingbalbio5007 3 года назад

I missed watching these. It brings me back to my childhood memories from more than a decade ago. Thank you so much for uploading these Mayday documentaries as well with the I Shouldn't Be Alive ones, Wonder.

@blackswan2804 3 года назад

Wait, there are new I shouldnt be alive Videos?!!!! Plss someone answer

@christianblessingbalbio5007 3 года назад

@@blackswan2804 Idk if there will be any new I Shouldn't Be Alive videos in the future or not, I'm afraid. All I'm saying is that I feel grateful for this channel to upload such documentaries since most of the others were sadly removed by RU-vid due to copyright concerns.

@orangie8426 3 года назад

RU-vid is an f-tard when it comes to that whole copyright stuff... they don't have any problem sticking commercials on posters videos that the poster isn't even aware of that youtube gets money for though... but that's ok. . Messed up.. Meanwhile the poster pays for internet weather they pay for their cellphone service or pay for cable... so they have internet on their laptop or desktop computer, which youtube probably gets a cut for... and that also means the cable that provides the broadcast for to begin with that you would watch over the cable on tv.. means it IS already paid for... then youtube wants you to pay again for premium service to remove commercials... God it just irks me a tad... that they have the nutz to say to post that same vid on youtube ISN'T paid for and it's a copyright issue... just doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever... everyone is paying for the internet and cable as it is already..

@goaway9977 3 года назад

@@orangie8426 lol wtf you think RU-vid gets a cut of your internet or phone bill? I think you're too young to be using the internet mate.

@TheKetsa 3 года назад

The only mystery is why DuPont cable coating that was not only flammable but also emitted a terrible toxic and dense smoke was used in the first place.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 года назад

Ask the FAA.

@jacquepf7442 3 года назад

Ask the purchasing dept

@brandyseverin4077 6 месяцев назад

I vividly remember this. I lived in Halifax at the time. A friend of ours was down Chester way, not too far from Peggy's Cove. He heard the explosion and called us, saying what he heard. Devastating. Absolutely devastating. The memorial at Peggy's Cove for the souls lost is a somber, but beautiful spot. May all those souls rest in peace.

@danielrobinson9802 3 года назад

My brain just loves to tell me to watch these before I have to fly somewhere

@CreativeEricafilms 3 года назад

I think it keeps you aware to possibilities and maybe our brains trying to be as prepared as possible for the unknown, maybe even picking up tips from those who survive.

@joanborn8835 3 года назад

It could be your guardian angel talking to you, or possibly the Holy Spirit!!! Listen 👂 carefully!!I will never fly again

@ZeppelinR101 Год назад

@@joanborn8835 Wise decision!

@mhuten 3 года назад

This channel deserves to be known more than a million people

@Spartan086 2 года назад

This is a TV show..multiple channels upload these episodes

@theblondeone8426 3 года назад

My dad died in a sudden bike accident and I felt it before i knew it had happened to one of my prents - I was ten years old - theres something about knowing when someone very close to you dies- i still cannot explain it neither can my mom and Im 35 now - idk if they visit you or its instinct or what

@bealong8718 3 года назад

theres another documentary on this channel, about a man being sucked out due to a fault with the underbelly door..... his mum was in NZ sound asleep when the accident happened. She woke up in a fog, and her son was standing at the end of her bed, jacket draped over his should, with a small smile on his face. She was paralyzed and couldn't speak. When she woke up in the morning she mentioned it to her husband, at the moment their phone rang from airlines to advise son missing, likely dead. I think you're right, there is a soul connection that let's you know when they pass, often you feel those things but dont know what it is, until that news is delivered. Sorry for your loss xx

@nevillec5252 3 года назад

When my dad died, I was on the other side of the world in Canada, just about to go flying with a new student. We were in a Cessna 152 (a small two-seater), still parked on the ramp with the engine off. There seemed to be a sudden gust of wind out of nowhere, and the plane shook quite violently - but I got a weird happy feeling. My student was afraid, but I said not to worry, it was just a gust of wind. I looked around, but there was actually no wind (dead wind-sock), and nothing else shaking. I was sort of spooked, but put it out of my mind as we prepped for engine start. About 10 minutes later, I got the call. My dad was a retired airline pilot. I think he was happy to see that I was about to go flying. If that was him.

@aliceelrod8344 3 года назад

I’m so sorry for your loss.

@thereisnoother1502 3 года назад

I think God gives this grace of knowing at times to help us deal with it. He is the Father of Compassion.

@davidnavarro4821 3 года назад

I’ve seen many reportages and articles on tragic deaths. Parents said they literally could « feel » something was very wrong before they were informed something happened to their loved ones.

@Cre8tvMG 2 года назад

My dad was an airline pilot for 35 years. Over 14 million miles without an incident. Feel safe when you fly. It is tremendously safe, largely because of investigations like this one. Accidents are becoming vanishingly rare in the west.

@olufunkeidowu9931 Год назад

Thank you for the reassuring words.

@garycard1456 3 года назад

It is a shame that it requires tragedies like this to provide the impetus for improvements in aircraft construction, safety and aircrew training so that such accidents are less highly to repeat themselves.

@Alex-oq8yg 3 года назад

planes are much more safe than cars but these avoidable incidents really frustrate me, the 747 that blew, the cargo doors, the anti-ice issues and the max disasters, all in my opinion avoidable but fixing the whole fleet would cost a price no airline wants to pay if not needed, so it´ll be economy over lifes

@benoitmandelbrot2206 3 года назад

Think abut how complicated these machines are though. Yes, its taken decades, many accidents, and millions of work hours to get aircraft to the point they are now: extremely safe. The process works. We could force changes without reason and contemplation but that itself might introduce other problems into this complex mechanism. I get what you are saying, being proactive is better and I agree, its just that there are a lot of moving pieces involved and we have to be careful.

@Azeias62411 3 года назад

safety regulations are written in the blood of those who didnt have them rip to everybody on board that fateful flight🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭☺☺☺☺☺ :psst: im happy because there in a better place now

@annbell6453 3 года назад

Was there anyone on here besides me that heard of the change to nearby Halifax, and kind of hoped they would land safely? I know, it wouldn't be this story, but I just couldn't help but figure they could get back!

@christopherhennessey8991 3 года назад

I hoped they could land.

@marktwain580 3 года назад

@@christopherhennessey8991 The final report as I recall stated they wouldn't have made Halifax even if they didn't dump fuel.

@jacquepf7442 3 года назад

Me! I was thinking “pls pick Halifax” since it looked closer.

@cseguin 3 года назад

Closed circuit video cameras should have become standard years ago . . . cameras throughout the aircraft and on the outside with a feed back to a monitor on the deck so the crew has even more information to work with . . . cameras should be made mandatory, period.

@JavierBonillaC 3 года назад

I have always thought this and have argued it several times here on RU-vid only to have pilots say back “everything you need to know is in the black boxes. There should be 40 cameras, in the tail, the landing gear, the bathrooms, the wings, the engines, the cabin, then cockpit, the food carts if necessary. Great comment.

@cseguin 3 года назад

@@JavierBonillaC I'm surprised there aren't a cadre of pilots wanting this to happen . . . I've received a similar response to this idea from some people - they say all the extra weight wouldn't make it feasible . . . and yet here we have an example (in this video) of a plane decked out with an entertainment system for passengers that outdo anything I've owned in my home . . . how much do all those monitors weigh and the all the additional wiring? Far more than a couple of monitors on the deck and the wiring running to a few dozen cameras . . . never mind the fact that the black box is used by the accident investigators, _not_ the pilots whilst they are addressing an emergency . . . FFS - a pilot _should_ know this - black boxes record things, that's it - they don't help in any way troubleshoot an emergency. The emergency in this situation could have been handled with a wet finger if the crew had a way to _see_ where the smoke was coming from - a small camera nestled above the deck would provide the means to _see_ what's going on instead of guessing and wasting precious minutes and seconds.

@JavierBonillaC 3 года назад

grin correct!

@samuelmatheson9655 3 года назад

40 cammeras would cost $2000+, and hooking them to the planes network would cost $300+ more per lane, therefore not economical (no im not being ironic, i fi ever buy a plane im using this idea)

@BlackFoxFalcon 3 года назад

@@cseguin As a Pilot myself, I disagree. Cameras are already mounted in certain aircraft. But most of the times, they are for entertainment or for the Pilots to montior who wants to enter the Cockpit. If there is a fire in the Cargo Bay for example, the fire detection and suppression systems will engage. A big, red message will appear on either the EICAS or ECAM telling me exactly where the fire is occuring at that moment. From there on we can start the counter measures. The sensors that detect and alert are incredibly sensitive. They will go off even if there isn`t a fire yet. So, even if there would be a camera mounted, the crew probably wouldn`t see that much at first glance. Plus, a lot of systems have fuses or CBs. If there is an overheat in the wiring of the Galley Bus for instance, CBs will start to pop out disconneting the affected system from the electrical supply. And while CBs can be reset, Fuses cannot. If a fuse melts, that system is down for good. Modern aircraft are jam-packed with safety and alerting systems. Mounting cameras would simply be overkill. Especially outside where they would increase drag. It`s not black and white folks.

@dennis12dec 11 месяцев назад

Swiss tennis player Marc Rosset was supposed to be on that fateful flight following his first round defeat at the US Open he changed his plans in the last minute and decided to stay in New York for another day eventually saved his life. He was very lucky not to be on that doomed flight.

@safdarakbari 3 года назад

Quite heart breaking to go through the details. RIP those who died in this accident..

@christophersbarounis8473 3 года назад

this series is more exiting than some on netflix you earned my subscribtion wonder

@stonksrgud7645 3 года назад

Exactly, not just this, i subbed because of the serie :"i shouldnt be alive" its awesome alot of people loved the serie, you should check it out!

@dschroeder4380 3 года назад

@@stonksrgud7645 will have to check it out!

@Hamsterjuices 3 года назад

May all these innocent souls rest in peace and if there is an afterlife of any kind I hope it treats them well. ♡

@Brucev7 3 года назад

Lord Jesus Christ Is the Way. Acts 4:12 John 14:6

@maurabell5634 3 года назад

Oh, there IS an afterlife... it’s heaven or hell... depending on “what you do with Jesus

@Hamsterjuices 3 года назад

I summoned the Christians.

@maurabell5634 3 года назад

YOU don’t “summon” ANYONE!since you think it nothing to mock GOD Remember - “He who laughs last- Laughs last”!! NO JOKING🙃matter!!

@Hamsterjuices 3 года назад

Oh no, I angered the summoned Christian.

@guyfaux900 2 года назад

What an amazing job they did of piecing this together. Imagine if they give up halfway because it was so large a job? I wish more disaster investigations were handled like this.

@shishkebab5306 3 года назад

Seems unbelievable that they would even consider using flammable material in an aeroplane or anywhere near wiring, electrical faults have been responsible for so many fires.

@twistedyogert 3 года назад

Houses have electrical codes to insure safety, I'm actually suprised there was no codes for ensuring that wiring was safe in aircraft or any other vehicle.

@5thdimension625 3 года назад

@@twistedyogert sadly, codes are written in blood

@EShirako 3 года назад

I can't recall why I think I remember this, but I swear that somehow the aluminized mylar WAS tested as safe. Accidentally, or by malicious testing, or...I think I recall that the flame-retardant compound was accidental, and had evaporated out over time. When it evaporated, they became terrifyingly ferocious fire sources with little provocation. I swear I recall the aluminized mylar stuff BEING tested, and it tested acceptably. I think it was sorta-burnable when it was brand new, but 'well within tolerances'. Only after a few years of aging did the terror reveal itself.

@manifold1476 3 года назад

There was a lot more going wrong than just the wrong choice of materials. The entertainment system was known to draw enough power to raise the temperature in the cabin. Just like in the Shuttle disaster(s) a series of compromises were allowed to accumulate without adequate and persistent scrutiny.

@Colaholiker 3 года назад

@@EShirako They even said in this documentary that the material was certified for the purpose. During certification it must have shown its non-flamable properties. I would really love to find out why it obviously behaved differently here. It's not like Swissair or McDonnel-Douglas cut corners by using something that wasn't certified for their insulation. Maybe either the properties changed over time (like you mentioned), or maybe the batch of material used there wasn't made to specs... I am aware of incidents in totally unrelated fields where people trusted the certification of components but those incidents happened because said components didn't really meet the criteria they should have.

@nenblom 3 года назад

I really admire the pilots of Swissair flight 111 and the air traffic controllers. One of the saddest episodes I have ever seen. One can see just how haunted Bill Pickrell was.