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The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut REVIEW 

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@MayaTheColdplayer
@MayaTheColdplayer 5 лет назад
The Sirens of Titan is my favorite book so far. It just speaks to me in a way no other book does. I used to get a lot of anxiety thinking about "the meaning of life," this book calmed me down quite a lot. Vonnegut, in his unique way, made me accept the meaningless and stop stressing about it. I've read about 9 of his books and loved every single one. Also, I couldn't disagree more with what you said about it being a bleaker version of The Hitchhikers Guide.
@TheSmallKorner
@TheSmallKorner 5 лет назад
This is my favorite of his books by a wide margin...
@TheChannelofaDisappointedMan
@TheChannelofaDisappointedMan 4 года назад
I second that. This book is a great riff on all the different ways of signifying/communicating. My favorite example is when one character thinks the little organisms on the wall of a cave are self-organizing to send him a message, but they are actually being moved into place by another character.
@PeterVred
@PeterVred 3 года назад
Mine too, I read it as a college student, and just reread it on retiring this year at 67.
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs
@DavidTSmith-jn5bs 3 года назад
@@TheChannelofaDisappointedMan Belief and the way it can be manipulated is the main theme of this novel. At least that was my take-away from it. Even The Bible was used in an unintentional way that I laughed at in later readings of the book as well as the satirical scenes like the main character being treated like Jonah near the beginning of the story and as Ezekiel near the end.
@spencer1531
@spencer1531 5 лет назад
I've read five of Kurt Vonnegut's books, with Sirens of Titan being my first. You were saying you expected something different from it than what you got, and I think that has to do with you reading it after SH5, BoC, and Cat's. I loved this book when I first read it, and it changed my perspective on the universe, my own privilege, and my empathy for others. It's linear but with enough plot twists to keep it interesting. I read it in adolescence and was very interested in the theme because I was hearing the ideas presented for the first time, but nowadays, I can see how the theme could be perceived as heavy-handed. I love Sirens of Titan because it shaped my early adolescence and held my tiny hand through an introduction to the meaningless absurdity of life, but, as an author, I think that Cat's and SH5 are more impressive. I would certainly love to be able to write a book half as good as SoT, but my opinion, as a reader, is that Cat's and SH5 are better. People like lists, so: 5. God Bless You Mr. Rosewater 4. Breakfast of Champions 3. Sirens of Titan 2. Slaughterhouse 5 1. Cat's Cradle Cat's Cradle is, like, unfair about how genius it is. What's your list?
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
I'd have to read many more of his works before I jotted down a list, but considering what I've read so far, Slaughtherhouse would definitely be number one, followed by Cat's Cradle - which is genius, of course, and switches from hilarious to nightmarish scary fast. Thank you for sharing your experience with Titan!
@WormholeUniverse
@WormholeUniverse 5 месяцев назад
I read Slaughterhouse-Five first and it blew me away, but then I read Sirens of Titan and it blew me away again. For me, the plot is more engaging, and I grew more attached to the characters. I do think Slaughterhouse-Five is more finely polished and quotable. I still have yet to read all of Vonnegut's works including some highly acclaimed ones like Mother Night and Welcome to the Monkey House. My current list goes: 1. Sirens of Titan 2. Slaughterhouse-Five (although I could waver with this being 1 if not going by personal enjoyment but overall craftsmanship instead) 3. Breakfast of Champions 4. Cat's Cradle 5. God Bless You Mr. Rosewater
@angiekalas-caldwell8825
@angiekalas-caldwell8825 2 года назад
ive read every book i could find available for a reasonable price by Vonnegut and Sirens of Titan remains my favorite, but Breakfast of Champions has a special place in my heart always since it was the first that i read by him. Thank you for the reviiew, you did a good job and youre making me want to pick up the book again and read it .
@Leafyphox
@Leafyphox Год назад
I loved the scene where Winston Niles Rumford said, "It's Harrison Bergering time!" and Harrison Bergeroned all over everyone.
@skrywar7598
@skrywar7598 3 года назад
I appreciate what you do for us, ty.
@woodswitch23
@woodswitch23 6 месяцев назад
Read the book many times over the yeas,till it fell apart. Listened to the audio yesterday,and it still makes me laugh.A masterpiece of black humour.
@mrl9418
@mrl9418 5 лет назад
Would you consider doing a video to explain your take on Lovecraft’s style and why you like it? Style is where he gets attacked the most, but, while I don’t think he’s been as influential as he’s said to be, mostly because I can’t find his themes and his style anywhere else, I think it’s exactly his style that’s fresh and interesting. I think it’s because he somehow seems to believe what he writes to the point he’ll explains it like a philosophy and fact, rather than writing it as a story... take how his characters see the dream world... it’s a sort of mimesis of fantasy, show-don’t-tell applied to the tenth degree that gives his characters a voice that is both childlike and factual. Am I on to something?
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
You're definitely on to something when you say that he wrote as if he believed what he wrote to be fact; unlike some of his literary siblings - say, Clark Ashton Smith - who wrote at least partially out of an escapist wish to retreat into fantasies, Lovecraft believed himself a man of science, and went about fiction the way Verga or Zola did in Europe: as if it described the nature of the cosmos and the malaise of human life. The whole "black seas of infinity" speech at the beginning of "Cthulhu" is not him waxing lyrical: it is, at least according to old HP, the very way the universe works! At the same time I don't think I follow what you say about his show-don't-tell to the tenth degree. Lovecraft's writing, in fact, is tell all the way through (Stephen King famously said that the man just could not set a scene), with narrators spending a good amount of their stories talking about the act of telling, or its consequences, or why exactly they cannot speak of certain things; and everything is often repeated a few times for good measure. Also, I wouldn't necessarily call his style "fresh" because it does feel very outdated (a good comparison would be with Hawthorne's or Poe's) and, even more importantly, it is meant to convey that sense of the "past" and archaic affectation that's so crucial to Lovecraft. But again - maybe I just didn't get what you mean. Also, I personally see Lovecraft's influence everywhere, from Pynchon to Elena Ferrante, but I may very well just be like the guy at the end of Innsmouth, obsessed with his discoveries and finding the Innsmouth taint in the mirror ;)
@mrl9418
@mrl9418 5 лет назад
@@TheBookchemist yes, "show don't tell of fantasy" is uselessly convoluted, I meant "the implied author considers the fantasy tale as fact", as showing a factual truth. That's what seems less contrived (more fresh) than others to me. Why Ferrante? #TheArkhamQuartet
@ceramicshot7148
@ceramicshot7148 5 лет назад
The first page and a half or so of The Silver Key is practically a Lovecraft manifesto. I've started some HPL research going through his letters, essays, poems, even diary entries and, in terms of aesthetics, politics, and religion, I'd say his personal espoused views are more or less the same as those his main characters possess in most of his works. One interesting comment Lovecraft makes on the subject of the extent to which his philosophy comes through in his stories can be found in his [In Defence of Dagon] writing: "Mr. Bullen... overestimates the didactic element a trifle. Like Dunsany I protest that except in a few cases I have no thought of teaching. The story is first, and if any philosophy creeps in it is by accident. "The White Ship" was an exception." In spite of being firmly atheistic, Lovecraft was very much against proselytizing his views on religion to the masses because he saw religion as useful for keeping the social order. I think (again from his letters/essays) that his goals were more in tune with communicating a certain mood or experience rather than trying to convert others to his way of thinking. I would also add that The Quest of Iranon, which he later wrote, possesses an almost-moral element to it similar to that in The White Ship, the moral in both cases being something like: "Truth and Beauty are ever at odds, and those who seek to reconcile them are doomed."
@BudBundy007
@BudBundy007 3 месяца назад
Constant went from being a self-important individual who felt in control of his life which was lacking any real meaningful relationships, direction, or purpose. He then became an individual who lived a more meek and humble life where he gathered food for himself which provided a sense of being self-sufficient (something he lacked with his inheritance) and developed a caring nature for his wife and son which provided the closest thing to true happiness that he ever knew. Once his wife died, and his son had found his sense of purpose in which a relationship with Constant was non-existent, Constant could not stand the thought of being alone which is why he wanted to go back to Earth with hopes of meeting other people he could develop some sort of meaningful relationships with. He went through a transformation of someone who had to find happiness through drugs, alcohol, hookers, and a sense of self-importance which provided no real meaningful relationships, to some who could not stand the thought of life without caring and meaningful relationships.
@echopointevent
@echopointevent 5 лет назад
I looooove SoT! Poor Unk! My favourite Vonnegut ❤️
@guitarstrunged
@guitarstrunged 4 года назад
42 comments! God I hate ruining this! Sirens of Titan. First Vonnegut book I read back in 1975 or so. I was looking for an interesting scifi book and noticed many many Vonnegut books so thought I'd give one a try. First page he writes "Mankind flung its advance agents ever outward... ...It flung them like stones." And I knew I was in for something special.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 4 года назад
I read so many Vonnegut books in college; cat's cradle, player piano, sirens of titan, slapstick... probably a half dozen; very enjoyable and easy to read, and didn't know anything about post-modernism back then, but basically he was in the mix in the early stages of the form.
@maldoso76
@maldoso76 5 лет назад
Loved sirens of Titan. Amazing.
@LivingLikeADoctor5
@LivingLikeADoctor5 2 месяца назад
Now I’ve never heard of this book prior to my ENGL1A class in college. I’m sure it’s a great read, but it’s fucking confusing for me to understand most of the shit these guys in the book are talking about. I just finished an assignment analyzing chapters 9-12. God help me. My grade fucking tanked cause of this book. I had genuinely no idea where the plot was going for chapter 1. Bear this in mind, I love writing. LOVE writing. I have a document that I dedicate exclusively to writing about a topic I’m passionate about, music. Particularly specific songs from select games I’ve played. I’ve had this document for roughly 2 years. I dissect the music and go on and ON and ON into great detail. I love it. It’s genuinely improved my writing, speech and intelligence. And then I had to do assignments on this book and LORD🫠🫠🫠🥲
@SpaceMonkeeyy
@SpaceMonkeeyy 4 года назад
I agree, his later novels have much more finesse but for me it was compensated by abundance of inventiveness and creativity.
@elim6883
@elim6883 5 лет назад
Have you read vonnegut's recently discovered short story? The one with the bees with little messages attached to them?
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
Nope! I'll look for it though!
@javiz9947
@javiz9947 10 месяцев назад
Hello. Greetings from Buenos Aires. Im writing to you from the future to thank you about the saga of gravity's rainbow, witch I just finished. About this book Sirens of titan, I've enjoyed so much; and I think is a sort of spin off from slaughterhouse 5. So many reflections about meaning of life and everything else. Your videos are so interesting, I don't know if you are currently doing this.
@diegomariacardona8273
@diegomariacardona8273 5 лет назад
I recommend “Deadeye Dick” it’s a very underrated novel of his and one of the none science fiction he wrote
@noahgraham2100
@noahgraham2100 5 лет назад
I’m kinda curious when Vonnegut transitioned away from science fiction, I haven’t read all of his work (and this novel is among those I have not read) but I have read a number of his books from across his career (Player Piano, Cat’s Cradle, Slaughterhouse 5, Breakfast of Champions, Galapagos) and maybe with the exception of Breakfast of Champions (though I’m not sure about that completely) they all seem to fall into some form of sci-fi, undoubtedly he fairly quickly transitioned to what tends to be labeled as “soft sci-fi” a take on the genre those other writers you mention were also really into, that avoids a lot of the sci-fi cliches, but in Vonnegut’s case it always seemed to be there in what I read of his stuff
@fasteddylove-muffin6415
@fasteddylove-muffin6415 2 года назад
Noah Graham, I was going to ask this same question...so I guess I'm also asking it now...did Kurt Vonnegut get away from Sci-Fi? Soft sci-fi maybe a good description. Vonnegut may defy strict categories but there always seemed to some element(s) of sci-fi in this work. Perhaps someone more familiar with him will chime in--or the @TheBookChemist will chime in for clarification?
@jamesrichie7844
@jamesrichie7844 Год назад
I just read Timequake. I really liked it.
@BookishTexan
@BookishTexan 5 лет назад
I think _The Sirens of Titan's_ suffers a little because it was his second novel and I don't think he had hit his stride as a writer or developed his style completely. I read this book a long time ago during a Vonnegut binge so my memory may be faulty.
@ianalbreski7124
@ianalbreski7124 5 лет назад
It defonatley does but it is a step toward a lot of what makes Vonnevut click so much later on in his career
@ceramicshot7148
@ceramicshot7148 5 лет назад
@The_Bookchemist Breakfast of Champions has two pretty interesting instances of escapism, which I know you've mentioned is a major part of your thesis. One is Wayne Hoobler's "Fairy Land" that he fantasizes about which is portrayed as pretty childish. It's a funny coincidence to me that the same character is described as "...a genius at dodging [escaping?] blows" when Hoover attacks him. Also there's Bunny's meditation practices that he uses to somewhat block out his dad beating on him.
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
That some good close reading, thanks for pointing this out :)!
@thornslove
@thornslove 5 лет назад
What about Phaedrus?
@LitReese_
@LitReese_ Год назад
You're giving me Harry Potter/Room Under the stairs vibes lol 🪄⚡
@gyngq2803
@gyngq2803 5 лет назад
Are you going to be reviewing the next Discworld novels? In my opinion it becomes the real Discworld only in book 4
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
I'd love to read further into the series - not sure how soon that'll happen, but hopefully sometime this year!
@ericgrabowski3896
@ericgrabowski3896 5 лет назад
Of the few Vonnegut books I've read I like Slapstick the best. I liked Sirens of titan though.
@kevinroche5014
@kevinroche5014 2 года назад
Perfect
@FIT2BREAD
@FIT2BREAD 2 года назад
Liked slaughterhouse 5 and cats cradle a lot, but I think Sirens is his best work
@kzinful
@kzinful 5 лет назад
Please forgive the paraphrasing here: .." I lost my virginity when I first heard of the bombing of Hiroshima.." Kurt Vonnegut Slaughter House Five will always be my favorite, though I'm sure Kilgore Trout will quibble over that
@sidharths789
@sidharths789 5 лет назад
Try slapstick by Vonnegut
@TheUplink777
@TheUplink777 5 лет назад
Maybe I just haven't seen the videos, but have you reviewed any of George RR Martin's books? If you haven't read any of the books, why not? :)
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
I only read the first and a half volume in the Song of Ice and Fire series (I liked them a lot). I'd love to go back to them and read the whole thing one day, but I cannot realistically say how soon I'll be able to do that :P
@TheUplink777
@TheUplink777 5 лет назад
Thank you for the reply! Perhaps one day you can review/comment on what you have read so far :)
@thecourrrr
@thecourrrr 5 лет назад
yeah i have this on my shelf and haven't read Vonnegut
@brainfragrances
@brainfragrances 5 лет назад
I liked most of what I read by him so far. I'd just suggest staying away from Player Piano, that was pretty bad.
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
Duly noted ;)
@p.cmishra5713
@p.cmishra5713 5 лет назад
Please make a video on "The Great Gatsby". :)
@markletts2000
@markletts2000 5 лет назад
Still none the wiser what the books about...a review of the author,I've seen before.Whats the book about...
@user-nu6vw9bq5b
@user-nu6vw9bq5b 5 лет назад
I thought it was overplotted and less assured compared to his later novels like Timequake which barely need plot to hold reader's attention at all. Which is a pity because I liked what I understood to be his thesis in this book that to never be used by anyone is worse than the alternative. But amount of the sci-fi invention he employs to arrive at this conclusion I felt was too much? Weirdly, I had the opposite problem with Breakfast of Champions - it felt too boring and mundane. It was a long time ago when I last read Vonnegut, though.
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 5 лет назад
You put it very well I think when you say it takes too much narrative energy (in terms of plot, characters, sheer number of pages) for the book to get to its conclusion.
@evynnyr2604
@evynnyr2604 4 года назад
This book is definitely incredible, but can we just please stop for a minute and think WHY is it called exactly The Sirens of Titan? Like... I can't get it. Why would Kurt Vonnegut name it like this? After all, those Sirens didn't play a huge role... Or am I wrong? HELP.
@TheBookchemist
@TheBookchemist 4 года назад
For what it's worth I find it one of the most awesome titles in all literature!
@Braxant
@Braxant 5 лет назад
I only read Cat's Cradle years ago. It turned me off of him completely
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