THE SMASH ULTIMATE OFFICIAL TIERLIST?? 

Uh the tournament you are referring to is Collision 2019 (Losers Semis), not Frostbite 2018. Frostbite 2018 was in the smash 4 era + Nairo didnt even attend Frostbite 2018 (he chose to attend a japanese invitational instead that took place on the same date as Frostbite)

Ganondorf really peaked in pre-beta smash ultimate so true

@@Latias38 Bro really hit him with the "Uh actually" 🤓👆

Only positive you might have is that you should be used to misery by now.

Give yourself a break and pick a top tier, trust me, i went from donkey, Gannon to Diddy Kong, kazuya and wario. My life has never felt better

YO TRUE!!

The problem is that, if he starts from bottom to top, he'll have to play through the shit characters every time he loses... And vice versa is way too frustrating because it feels like an uphill battle. The further he gets, the shittier the characters become lol

Little Mac being the second to last on the run is such a killer if you get that far only to get cheesed by literally anyone, if you do win tho Ganon is a character everyone can play to an extent

Actually good idea

Then stream snipers would just wait for certain characters to come up and counterpick

What happened?

@@BabyCalisthenics Played Fall Guys with NAKAT. All I really need to say.

@@the_bookworm8281 don’t forget Nakat talking about Ness’ “drip”

@@gabrielabrera9966 I gagged so hard when Nakat told Nairo to come visit his AC neighborhood XD

@@the_bookworm8281 I hate Fall Guys, but I love me some Nairo and Nakat action.

Fuck young link, I have never won a match against them and I have 7mil gsp 😭

Young Link could be higher, but the current top 25 is very difficult to surpass. For adult Link, I think he is fine where he is. The character has stagnated significantly post-quarantine and has not contributed much in terms of high levels results for a long time.

Agreed I think yink is better than cloud tbh how did cloud get up there

@@sullivanish spargo

​@@the_bookworm8281 Link definitely isn't worse than Toon Link let's be real.

I think he's pretty content with what he's doing. He's still getting to see his friends while having fun with it.

@@RayBcv1030 true.. but i still would love to see him compete! one of my fav players. Damn this fragile, bitch ass culture!

The culture overreacted, but it's hard to explain

Ngl even though you hate to see him not being able to compete he still deserves it

@@russianspy4989 it's interesting how Americans are so hardline about this and a lot of Europeans are confused about what the issue is in the first place

make one for us i’ll watch

well said

esam's always lost in some sort of sauce

Esam still thinks that Pikachu is top 3 when no one has shown that Pika is top tier. I think he is, but not top 3. I recently watched Sisqui Tier list and a lot of people was hating him because he didn't put Pikachu in top 10 and Kazuya is in his top. He was really accurate with the official tierlist

@@christianmedina4107 Shinymark?

Apparently the average top 100 player is lost in the sauce lol, no need to say specifically Esam

@@varunkrishnaswamy4252 "I didn't really think of him as a top 5 character" Do you think he's speaking code to you or something?

I the when I then you am the I

Sparg0 and light are hard carrying their character placements in this list and I'm not surprised considering their performances with their characters

Fax

Better fox

He chose to lose

How, exactly, would one objectively determine what characters can and cannot do?

People learned ig

Got nerfed.

He*

​@@CaptainFracturethey really

@@CaptainFracturethe girl is the default inkling so it’s more she than he

Yeah Sparg0 has Cloud barely in top 25. Like Nairo said though he is just a better player than almost all his peers

@@6PathsGohan Cloud is good, but it’s very obvious from watching that there are moments people aren’t taking full advantage of or even worse, are letting Cloud do free

do you think inkling is B+? I think A-

Nah inkling still good asf

The Inkling disrespect is real

@@chignonn I agree with around the A tiers

Reason that Inkling has a hard time killing these days. They went through a LOT of nerfs since the original days of Ultimate where they were easily A+ tier characters

Yeah, I never ever in my life thought He was low tier.

@@echospace7347 isn’t c low tier lol

@@chrisbeach423 C+ is Mid tier, along with B-. Even then, characters that are considered "Low tier" by the list like Isabelle and King K. Rool are able to win big tournaments because the game is so well balanced.

I actually like minmin I think people should play her more 💀

It's all votes from active top players. Bad idea.

They can’t go one game without making a broken character 😂

@@Judeinator9001 Steve is only barely broken when compared to his predecessors. Ultimate is far more balanced as a game than any previous game. Steve being broken is mainly due to hitstun cancel. If not for that, then it might be more reasonable to argue Pyra and Mythra are the best character in the game, and they actually have real weaknesses despite how good they are.

True

Is the most accurate form to place the characters. I mean, you can say that Pikachu is top 10, when nobody can do something with him

@@christianmedina4107 That’s the point you judge the character by the character rather than the people playing them. For example Yoshidora pushing Yoshi even higher. Yoshi was always capable of that it’s not like Yoshidora downloads his own patch notes. Results aren’t accurate they’re just relevant. It’s why these tier lists always change like ESAM changing his mind over and over because we see the character through the lens of their players. Then again I don’t blame pros not wanting to put work into a unique or rare character they want fast results or just to play for fun. Like a world without light fox isn’t that high but that doesn’t mean fox couldn’t do what he’s doing now. So maybe this perspective is relevant but it’s extremely blind.

This is not results based. Just top player's (partial) opinions aggregated. It's a bad idea and bad list.

I mean how else are people gonna judge? You put a character based on their character high and you gonna have a mob of people saying wtf do they know? They don’t get results at tourneys! It’s a lose lose situation

Incin > Ike is craaazy

Fr, ike shits on all the c charcs above him

​@@thekingdedede how is that crazy, watch skyjay, Ike doesn't do anything

What can I say he forcefully and unreasonably clunky cuz Masahiro Sakurai ig

Facts

Yoshidora, Suarez, Ron... there are quite a bit of good Yoshi players. However I feel Yoshidora's prominence in Japan is a bit understated. The region as a whole believes Yoshi is top 10 thanks to him, which influenced the character's tier placement significantly.

In disadvantage he's quite easy to deal with

Nairo one of the best analysts in the game fr

Aside from high air speed and a good air dodge, he has fantastic combos, incredible neutral, and some of the most constant and powerful tools in the game. He is top tier on stage, and I think Tweek said it best, a bad recovery only matters if you win enough on stage to get them off stage.

Nakat is a washed looney tunes competitor, Nakat’s ANYTHING deserves to be slept on

​@@CaptainFracture ☠️☠️☠️