The SMITE Mechanics Iceberg Explained! 

So of course, right as I release a video HiRez decide to change half the CC mechanics in the game... As of patch 9.7 (Mid-Season) - DR stacks are now 20% but stack 4 times (compared to 40% but stack 2 times) - 'Animtation-based CCs' are now 'True Hard CCs'. Still not affected by DR, but apply 2 stacks of it instead of 1. - Roots are now Hard CCs (But not 'true hard CCs') - Abilities with 2 Hard CCs can apply multiple DR stacks at once (Eg Anhur's 2 applies knockback, then stun for a total of 3 stacks of DR) - DR stacks are now a visible debuff on your bar (previously were not)

Wards should be in marinara trench. They are a consumable item you can buy that gives you vision of the enemy when they walk over them, not sure how many people know they exist.

The only mechanic that I did not know for sure is the support bonus, I had noticed that I leveled a bit faster than ai thought I should when splitting lane as support, but I chalked it up to: “we farming good”

My favorite mechanic, Oni hunter's when used by Persephone post rework, is the only (I'm aware of) aura item that works while she's dead and can make you a bootleg ward

This channel is easily as good as the 'best.' Respect for not trend chasing and sticking with the game you like :)

It's only been playing Smite for about a year and I knew every fact up to the Mariana trench, that's probably a good thing since it means the game isn't very secretive about its mechanics, it makes the game very open to newer players

so i knew about support bonus and the old method of mitigating executes. I also knew about the aoe heal reduction but i didn't know about scylla's 1 not applying the reduction

Correction: The %pen cap for both physical and magical damage applies for item stats only, passive effects can bypass the cap: Scyla 2 max rank +25% , dominance passive +15%, izanami passive, girdle +10% pen, titan's bane, obsidian shard, wind demon etc...

19:38 sometimes I had the impression that Scylla's 1 healed a lot with lifesteal, but I thought it was just an impression, I can't believe it's an actual game mechanic thing!

Great video thanks for making this! I've been playing smite since it released and I have never taken the time to understand some of the math behind the various stats. This was super helpful. One thing I do want to comment on is that I'm pretty sure you CAN stack at least 1 slow in the game and that is the slow from Midgard Mail. Not sure how the numbers work with the mails slow and another slow stacked. Do they add together for a combined total slow amount or is there some math involved that reduces their combined amount?

This channel is really helping me improve my game Much appreciation!!

Just looked up that slow formula. There are extra parameters. 1. You won't be affected by DR if your slowed by less then 40%. 2. Since a single slow won't proc DR you can reduce how slow someone is by trying to slow them again. If you have an 80% slow then no formula. However if someone else uses a slow then boom. Formula gets applied to their total which will be lower than 80% almost all of the time.

If you time Thanatos AA where you start the third area effect swing as soon as the AA combo resets, thano will glitch out and rapidly regular swing 2-3 times before starting a normal AA combo again.

funny that just a few minutes after this video went up, the new patch notes redefined certain CC's lol

Love the divinity music at the beginning ❤️

It’s funny that you mentioned roots being soft cc because they just announced they were changing that to hard cc like in the last hour lol

Can you make a video of your favorite gods (From a kit design perspective) Just a example of what i mean, i think ares ult is one of the best ults from a design perspective. You have alot of ways to deal with a enemy ares ult beads it, take a risk and take it, aegis it to ignore the follow up dmg, use your cc immune ult. The ult forces you to make a choice and i think that is brilliant.

I know this video is old but I have come to share Smite wisdom. A lesser known mechanic in the game is Attack Speed: Specifically what Attack Speed does. It speeds up your animation while auto attacking, not just the startup of the auto attack. This means gods with higher Attack Speed also have higher Movement Speed, since the in-hand penalty start up and end lag animations play faster. This effect is the most noticeable on Athena. At level 1, using your final auto attack makes you slow for an incredibly long time, as the entire animation is double the length of her standard autos with a 1x/1x/2x attack chain. If you build attack speed on her, in addition to the attack coming out faster, she'll also begin moving at normal speed much sooner. This also works with AA Cancelling! Using an ability out of an auto attack will get rid of almost all of the effects of the lingering auto attack, including the movement speed reduction. This is very important for characters like Rama and Artemis, as it gives them greater ability to juke auto attacks. I'm sure people who've played the game for a long period of time have noticed when a Rama or Artemis gets a slight speed boost after using their 2 immediately after firing an auto attack. It can be difficult to notice if they're backpedaling, since the backpedal penalty is so significant, but when strafing or chasing it becomes way more noticeable. Note: Toggleable stim abilities like Rama's 1 and Xba's 1 have unique animations that don't cancel your attack chains, so they can't be used for this. However, Heimdallr has a replicable effect with his 3, although it's extremely mana hungry, he can cancel his attack chain to output massive amounts of damage at ridiculously high attack speeds early game. I'm not entirely sure if that's been patched out or changed, but given it's mana cost I imagine it's still in the game as a tech skill option.

Love the divinity 2 BGM Smite is great and so is divinty Thanx for the info. Kinda suspected a fair bit of this but still nice to have it laid clearly

Definitely easy to test if you can still mitigate out of an execute. Full Rank Chaac Ult (70%) + Full-Stacked Lono's Mask (15%) + Elixer of Defense (10%) = 95% Damage mitigation, which should put the execute at 499 or 500 damage.

FineOkay's recent smite mechanic video shared most of the trench information but I was freaking out over all of the low level stuff I never noticed

You could also immune basic attacks with xian and myrdin when throwing 2x your 1 on hunter

Love the content! Love the detail you went into in this one!

You can still survive executes but the mitigations became so scarce only gods like chaac can do it, who has 70% mitigations during his ult

U can blink mid auto attack animation and finish it on top of them for instant burst. Ne zha last 2x in attack chain with crit for example

On that last fact, that was the exact reason i was so pissed when they reworked nox 1, because i loved running full lifesteal nox and just grabbing people and healing for like 1600 health, 400 per tick for 4 ticks. But now, even if you only hit a god and nothing else, reduced. Forever. Its so stupid and i hate it. Like yeah, the extra clear is nice, but it should only apply when hitting anything that isnt a god. The line damage and the grab damage should be separated, but arent.

My only addition would be related to mystical mail and animosity. It's well known those items do magical damage, but are often built by more physical gods than magical. Picking up a toxic blade as a physical character will greatly help because the item gives magical and physical penetration regardless of your class.

You can still do 1 dmg basics on Charybdis with her 0.33 triple throw in her triple hit at the end of her atk chain. Also you didn't mention jumping over merc ult (with spacebar not a leap)

I remember I fought a chaac in arena and when he was in hit ult animation, I was only hitting him with “immune” with auto attacks as Cupid 💀

I had heard of most of these, but I didn't know about support bonus until most recent patch b/c they brought it up.

You make this video and immediately after you post it, they completely change the core mechanics in the game xD (Like DR)

This is a pretty cool video 90% percent of the obscure ones I knew was because of you channel lol

I didn't know about the executes thing, I started in season 2 and the 1 damage Ao basic attack thing the rest I knew about because I read Flarboot's mechanics guide once every 2 seasons lol.

FINALLY someone who can explain correctly how flat pen and % pen works.. thanks so much!! I've been searching that for years

def good bc im kinda new and this helps me a lot in learnin smite

Diddnt mention damage cancel on certain abilities like Awilix’s feather step you can use it and your immune to all damage while in the air. Ae Chaac ult can be completely dodged or ability’s that are predictable you can activate and avoid the ability or basic attack

I don't remember if you went over this in the other iceberg, but certain characters hace unique voicelines when facing certain other characters

I knew most of these facts already in one way or another because DukeSloth went over a lot of these things with his community (me included). Subbed to the guy for like the longest time and watched sooo many informational videos braking down smite mechanics.

I wonder if the aeo lifesteal coefficient applies to medusa 2 since mechanically its kinda similar scylla's 1

Terra passive gives you Soul Gem stacks on her enhanced basics and both her ult when getting an enemy in it and monolith if you root sn enemy give 2 stacks each

I have actually done a 1 dmg crit before. Required shell plus xing tian 1 and charybdis attacking a geb

i found it interesting that u mentioned the 1dmg auto attack but not that if xing ting goes staff of myrd and double 1's you, you do no basic attack dmg

I know this is late but in season 4 with the Loki event you could jump over one of the fallen pieces. So jump had a use for once.

A good example of great AA cancel mages would be like Aphrodite or morrigan or most mages with an easy to land cc ability who can follow it up quickly after launching a stun, AA, then their main dmg ability

The CCDR is getting a pretty big rework in this upcoming patch. 4 stacks of 20% instead of 2 stacks of 40% CCDR. There's more to it now but that's what stuck out to me.

a thing to add %penetration can be bypassed by passives like ob shard

The shared exp bonus is one of the most frustrating things to deal with when you have a jungler who doesn't know about it and constantly complains when you rotate for their camps with them... "Stop stealing my exp"... Bro it's a teamgame, leech my wave if all camps are cleared...

Knockups are now effected by DR since the most recent patch, the Nickelodeon update.

I think I might be confused but people do backpedal while basic attacking, this is a tactic known as kiting

homie is playing Divinity 2: Original Sin music in the background hell yeah. one of my favorite OST's

Good good video ! Does anybody know what is the music at the back during the first part ?

The Dos2 music is epic innit.

With old staff of myridan u could go xian tian and use his 1 twice to make someone’s auto do 0 dmg

3:32 " A cripple, you're not completely disabled because you can still walk around." Yeah about that

Guess I'm a nerd. Only one I hadn't heard of was the 1 damage basic attack, which is the one that's not even really a mechanic. I had forgotten about the support bonus, but I remember it now that your video reminded me of it, not entirely new information.

Surviving executes may be possible with the somewhat recent buff to chaac ult (which has 70% mitigations now). Combine that with spirit robe and/or cabrakan passive and/or Oni Hunters Garb passive and you are close to 100% mitigations, which should let you live a thana or achilles ult easily.

Didn't know about Surviving Executes, 1 Damage Autos, or specifically Scylla's 1's relationship with lifestyle

Knew about the living through the executes and most of the rest above

Only 2 I didn't know about were the 'suviving exes' and '1 damage basic' One that I would love to throw in personally is that Olorun Ultimate can be abused by characters like Ne Zha who's stuns last as long as their animations do. Hitting Ne Zha sash onto an ulting olorun is disgusting af.

@9:55 did i understand it right? the order in which you purchase your pen items does affect in which order the penetration is applied? wtf i thought it always applied first flat then %

What about intoxication and madness classifications?

Huh the only one I didn't know was Scylla's max rank 1 lifesteal thing, and she's my main mage lol!

This might be the most important video I’ve ever watched.

Minions being able to crit with Fail-not's passive should have been in the iceberg

Only one I hadn't heard of was the 1 damage autos, I play this cursed game too much

U can absorb or block a excute with bolona or athena

I mean in most other moba's if u let a tower kill a minion it's denied completely and you get *no* gold so I guess 3 is still nice? Do you not have to always last hit in smite?

I didn't know about the power "capping" - I have always been wondering if power points above the 900 mark for magical power, for example, is "wasted". The rest I think I knew about, besides the slows mechanic as well - I knew it DRd but had idea how exactly it did. I still have a lingering question, though, as I think I might just be getting confused from playing other games. Is lifesteal percentage additive?

the support bonus is in arena its like 20% for the 2 lowest leveled players on each time or something

question: do Titan's Bane's and Obsidian Shard's passives bypass the 40% pen cap?

The only time non dr hard cc's are extended/shortened are in olorun ult.

Back in days Full tank Tiamat been able to get 7dmg from adc's and crits for 70 :D

Laugh spam tier list

Would there be enough info for an Iceberg vid for god skins?

I swear i just played this man. And now im seeing his vid

What is the music playing in the background ? so calm

I thought healing was calculated on subsequent targets, not just based on what abilty you use.

Oh I went into this looking for a video on the effects like silencing does anyone know a video for that

Downloaded smite about 2 hours ago. About 1hour and 55 minutes ago, I started searching for something to give me even a slight chance of knowing what I’m doing.

I’m pretty sure Chacc can immune executes with shell full mitigations and his ult

I am playing since 7 years but there are still things in this Video i didnt know. Mainly the numbers like 120% shared XP. Very interesting and helpful video

I didnt know about diminiahing return

with how soft ccs are described silence is a soft cc as well because you still have control of your character. the only "hard" ccs are stuns and displacements

Death is the strongest Hard CC. Change my mind

Been playing since s2 and I knew them all

Let's get this iceberg video in everyone's reccomendations like all other iceberg videos. Here's a comment to help with that

The syllabus piece still works I believe

Lowest ive ever hit was 8 as geb with 0 power vs Bacchus with max mag prots, max passive, spirit robe popped, oni hunters in a group of enemy gods and the upgraded shell mitigations. If i ever hit one id probably delete

Thanks now I gotta go play divinity 2 again

supposedly you can still survive executes, my wife saw it recently

u also had the aegis of immortality relic aswell if u heard thanatos ult and knew u was low health u could just time it so u aegis before he landed on u and u would not die to it buh probly die to him afterwards lol

First ? :D Also love your vids bro , keep it up :D

Watching this during my Nintendo switch deserter ban

Yooo I only didnt know the scylla one

Man not playing for 1y and knew everything xd

Been playing smite for the better part of a decade and didn't know the Scylla 1 3x lifesteal

The best part of this iceberg is the amount of people who don't even know what the Marianas Trench is. (Idek how to spell it)

The only thing I didn't know was the support bonus. Beta tester gang.

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Some of my team mates need to understand that splitting farm 2 ways is most efficient, people will split one wave and try and f6 🙃 Also I knew the slow DR formula for a meme build I did for a slow Rama build, basically just frostbound + envenonomed Deathbringer + horrific + astral arrows. It slowed for something like 65% post DR