This interviewer, Tony Wilson (founder of Factory Records, for the musically uneducated among you), once said about Morrissey that he was a "woman in a man's body". Morrissey responded that Tony Wilson was a "pig in a man's body", and when asked to explain his comment, refined it as a "man in a pig's body". They didn't really get on.
Johnny Marr could play anything and he was like 22 in this interview. The pairing of two singular talents like him and Morrissey just an amazing collaboration.
@@pg6917 yeah but as a team they made it great. The thing I love most about the smiths is how perfectly the lyrics and music compliment each other and the chemistry they had as artists. Everything about it just works in the most perfect way
It's rare to find an interview with Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce during The Smiths era. Rourke, a great bassist, seems to be shy to answer.Joyce, soulful Joyce Is a great drummer and(Oh such a beautiful voice 😍😙) I think they're really handsome. They needed to appear in more interviews, they are the Sound from The Smiths too.
Special times back then. Not just the great music the Smiths produced but also how easy it was for people to speak their minds and give an opinion - hard not to miss the 80's.
I'd love to see more of the interview with Marr. It's amazing how much musical talent he has and the way he weaves his myriad influences into a distinctive sound that respects the tradition on which it's based.
Ive been listenin to The Smiths since i was a toddler, my pops sorta forced it on to me, but im glad that he did so now i know about this beautiful music and the talent who created it
You can tell there is a bit of dislike from Wilson here, a lot of the questions have an underlying negativity. "Does he deserve all the attention he gets?" To Joyce and Rourke about Morrissey. "I knew him when he was called Steven" then proceeds to call him Steven throughout the interview even though he himself acknowledged he only goes by Morrissey now. "What gives you the right..." to comment on schools and teaching: as if permission is needed for lyircal content.
nah it's just standard critical interviewing of the time. a pretence of balance, sometimes actual balance, but at least there was a pretence that gave us the whole picture and acknowledgement of what has happened unlike now where it's all simple and onesided and fake. i would say in this case it's even just going through the motions to set them up for assuaging fears and improving his image. also actors and musicians all comment on social and political stuff now but none express anything that isn't approved and prepared for them. so morrissey's sentiment falls flat, i think even in his time. just another avenue for propaganda and social engineering. i wasn't alive then but that's what i've noticed from watching the media from that time.
I honestly think it was a little rude that the interviewer was pressing Mike Joyce and Andy to say if they were jealous. I mean, to even ask someone if they're jealous is vindictive.
I'm glad Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce seem to be appreciated and folks know what a big part they played in The Smiths sound, writing, look, and stage presence. When folks start saying Johnny wrote all the basslines etc, I wonder if they're just repeating what another misinformed person said. (Johnny made the drum beats/patterns too?) Sure, he most probably showed him the basic chord/note patterns, but I as a musician, can tell that writing and obviously playing style is his, naturally. The Smiths is all 4 of them. Craig Gannon had a good look and could play, but seemed kind of awkward and upset the natural balance. He seems like a good guy though. Not knocking him. I guess because the 2 guys from the rhythm section haven't done mountains of work since The Smiths, they get scrutinised and regarded less by some. Thank you for the music anyhow
Morrissey's riposte to Tony Wilson is fantastic- perhaps Tony Wilson is playing the devils advocate, but when he states 'what right does being a pop star give you to..." it sounds like he's being ultra conservative. The whole freedom of speech and public authorities being held accountable obviously weren't as prominent back then as they rightfully are today.
Wilson never made them an offer to refuse. Rob Gretton, upon hearing their demo, wasn't impressed. I think his opinion was the final say. @reopoker89: Wilson said once in an interview (maybe about 14 or 15 years ago) that he didn't regret not signing The Smiths because he didn't think he could have worked with Morrissey.
It sounds silly by today's standards, but Morrissey received a lot of guff for his comments. I'm not sure why because he spoke from his own experience. U2, I gather, faced similar criticism for "Sunday, Bloody Sunday." I remember Bono defending the song at live shows with "This song is not a rebel song." I was a teen-ager in the 80s so I recall this stuff going on, but I don't understand the defensive reaction behind the comments. I love Morrissey's defense though because music is relevant!
OMG Tony WIlson was so handsome and charming back in the day. I used to fantasize about us an plenty of butter :p ;) lol I really cant wait to hear Morriseys new song with American rapper Rick Ross. Cant say I havent fantasized about those two either. ; ))))) RIP Lil' Kim, Andy Rourke and Biggie 1941 - 1998 Chris Mortsers
@mrbittersnell New Order are brilliant. Superb. Oh, he helped Joy Division, Happy Mondays and the Smiths out of Manchester and out in to the world along the way also. If you don't like any of those bands, please go away.
