The SNK Neo Geo was ahead of its time | MVG 

Just thank the homewrecker instead 😂

OK

@@tyguy3876 so, the husband?

@@ShadowEl Yeah, screw him.

​@@ShadowEl You're SO virtuous and progressive, reminding everyone it was the HUSBAND who was the homewrecker. Not that everyone just read that comment seconds before yours, it was NECESSARY for you to make that comment. So many people were going to be TRICKED by the PATRIARCHY that homewrecker and woman are always synonymous. But thank god you stepped in and saved us all from male oppression.

Yeah, the Neo Geo becomes far more fascinating when you learn how to manage its MK-33 electroplasma system with broad-spectrum electron dampers and sub-emissive particles.

How did you learn anything when everything the guy said in this video is wrong?

@@nirv so what was wrong?

Sprites and sprites made of tiles and background made of sprites ( Amiga ) were an old technique at that time. I would love to see some innovation. Like when you had to code on 68000 you always fight the lame branch instructions ( on many CPUs you do that ). I would have been great if the SNK would have written a software implementation of a quad-tree for everything all the way down to the pixel level. The background could be single sprite, but the hardware quickly dives down into the correct nodes. Totally transparent nodes are not even stored in ROM. A lot of sprites seem not to really use all the colors so maybe even nodes could get their color space restricted to save some more bits. Render front to back with a coverage tree ( portal rendering ). Then the GPU only needs to fetch visible pixels from the cartridge, which in turn could use cheap slow ROM. So after proof of principle, implement this as hardware circuit where a branch is just a gate. I mean, at least for transparency the hardware needs to branch for every pixel anyway. The quadtree may give two times the overhead. So you have twice the cost for the cabinet ( not really ), but the game only cost half to manufacture. You could have much more background layers. With super scaler hardware ( Sega, Atari Lynx ) that would even be more useful because often there the scenery objects stack on top of each other. You could have a scenery where the floor does not shine through without speed penalty. Trees are difficult to write into randomly, but you cannot write to ROM anyway. The Art department suffers one minute while their new pictures is compressed into the devkit. I think, that would be okay. I would even want octa-trees for animations. So the compressor could find similarities in consecutive frames.

CVG was so good to read. Job's Mailbag remember that one

it wasnt ahead of its time...its just a bullshit internet cliche

As a home system it absolutely was.

I think two kids claimed to "own" a NeoGeo. For one, it was probably just the cabinet at his parents' pizza shop. The other's parents were loaded so he likely wasn't lying or bending reality. As much as I drooled over the NeoGeo, I was not jealous because the SNES was and is the pinnacle of gaming for me.

@@ProctorSilex The SNES was OK if you liked butchered arcade ports and Mario. But the AES was the real deal. It's games were several years ahead of anything Nintendo put out at the time.

SamSho2 is my favorite of the series for sure.

Funny, all I did was download a emulator pack and had all neogeo games

The problem with collecting is that the only time you can gain any value is if you have it on the lower end. Since these started expensive, it was hard to start collecting to begin with. Then, there is really only so much the stuff can possibly be worth before you are never going to get what you paid.

I still have my dreamcast

My parents bought me a Japanese Dreamcast from NCSX in 1998 for Christmas, by far the best Xmas gift I'd ever gotten. Eventually I'm gonna buy all new controllers and VMUs and maybe one of those Behar Brothers VGA boxes for the ultimate setup

@@joesaiditstrue yeah man, that's awesome. I had everything, so sad that I don't have it anymore. Had multiple lightguns, fishing controller, bunch or vmus, keyboard and mouse for phantasy Star online, also had a boot disc and a whole cd case full of burnt games on top of my regular ones. One of my mates had my DC for a bit while I was moving years ago, then I lost touch with them and never got it back.

I still have and play my Dreamcast!

@@mykr0324 Call him.

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Spettacolare, io sto in Calabria e ci sta qualche bar che ancora le ha

I can confirm that, same thing in southern Italy as well. Neo Turf masters, puzzle bubble, Metal slug X and even Magician Lord!

@@francescobarrali637 Like them say in LA, don't steal my time, steal with style and do the crime, not the time.

Same in Serbia, also Super Pang was very popular arcade game.

Audio quality is always related to memory size and Neo Geo had crazy memory sized games. They had memory to spare thus sound was always of highest quality.

IKR? KOF XII and XIII's graphics should've been used to make a Garou II & III instead.

@@KenMasters. At least Garou 2 is coming.

@@ghost.8836 It's about time Garou got its 25th anniversary sequel.

The community is still thriving for MotW. We play on Fightcade now. There are weekly tournaments on Sunday.

@@Kaiesis Well, I know what to do when I get my PC fixed. I'm going to suck but hey, it'll be fun!

Love to know the story behind that friends situation. Everyone who was into gaming knew about the Neo Geo but NO one had it. I even had some pretty well off friends and what they would have is a serious computer back in the early 90s. But with Neo Geo, even if you bought the system for 600 bucks, the games were just too expensive to get any kind of collection going. You would have to have parents who were both a) rich and b) spoiling there child rotten.

It IS an arcade machine, literally.

@@TheT0nedude this, lol, contains the literal same hardware.

@@leeartlee915 Was about 15 years ago, I am in my mid thirties. This wasn't a childhood thing. My mate worked at a Cash Converters and picked it up after someone came in and hocked it. He also had an Atari Jaguar CD which is equally ridiculous. I bought a Commodore Amiga CD32 and a Satellaview off him which I still have today.

@@_____7704 Ahhhhh, see now that I can see (we are around the same age). I still have never played an actual AES. I’ve always lusted after those joysticks.

That kinda explains how the “KOF aesthetic” with young peoples’ clothing got popular throughout Asia, they were cool/dangerous

Wow really interesting! Thanks for that!

Love how you just up and use what's considered a slang term in its native language and is often used disdainfully-"punk"-so casually like it were a normal descriptor. That's something Japanese does a lot with loan words.

@@CarbonRollerCaco we do that in here where I’m from in United States too!

That's ironic given the home version was an exclusive, premium product with the insane price tags to match.

In many ways I like this more than the cps2 and 3

How much was it in Australia?

@@connorkiss2614 this was in 1990, I was a very young lad, I cant recall how much it was but the $800 AUD mark keepa popping into my head. $800 back in those days was alot of $ to splash on a console, and then the $ for the game carts.

Yeah, you think of how many obscure arcade games would be unknown/dead were it not for people dumping ROMs and MAME. The companies certainly don’t seem to give a shit about their legacy.

That's the absolute truth 😍✌

mame = horrible

@@jonniefast It ain't perfect, but it's necessary. How else can we play marble madness 2?

You're absolutely correct about there being a difference. I used to play tournaments (mainly the King of fighters series) in our arcades. For a while things were fine, then emulation happened and arcade owners were flocking to the new arcade machines which were mame cabinets. Once we started playing on these everything changed, there were suddenly combos we could pull off that we never could on actual hardware and stuff we no longer could do because of the changed timing. It led to tournaments getting split into two camps, the emulator ones and the originals (based off actual neo Geo hardware). Pretty soon that split led to the demise of our little tournament circuit and by then the world had moved on (Street Fighter, tekken etc.)

@@Ali-Britco I will say that it's something I only notice on some games. Most of them are, to me, indistinguishable from emulation. But to be fair, it's something that I'm not usually sensitive to in other emulated platforms but I'm sure there are people out there that can feel these slight differences more deeply than I. I also think some of it comes from the feel of using the Neo Geo sticks too.

@@WrestlingWithGaming yep, I think the difference is more noticeable in games that rely on 'twitch' reflexes like fighting games. For example, in my younger years I'd memorised and beaten the nes Battletoads, on real hardware I still can, but on emulator ( around 2013 anyway) I couldn't get the timing right for the unicycle level and knew something was off.

I got mine in 1991 i was so obsessed

This explains the crispness you see in theae games

Lmao

Nobody owned a neo geo

Only drug dealers and surgeon kids had one

I didn't even know what it was. Everything I knew was there are Sega Nintendo and someday Sony. That was it 😅

"It's OK. I'm gonna shoot you in the head." -Jericho

13:09 I guess not by name, but the tech was mentioned

He mentioned multicarts at 13:20

@@zeikjt Not the same thing, he mentioned those 161-in-1 carts with a fixed library of games.

@@DocMagneto Multicarts and flashcarts are not the same thing. Multicarts have a fixed library of games, like the popular 161-in-1 cart which is what he was alluding to. I was specifically talking about something that allows you to play whatever ROMs you want to.

@@hadesmcc Ah fair enough, I figured he was just talking about carts with sdcards preloaded with games, not fixed hardware data but I guess not!

In a lot of ways, it kinda is the apex of 2d sprits. What we see today is kinda cheating on what people would call sprites.

ironic because nowadays it probably makes more sense economically to buy the arcade board instead of an AES

I think Gen 5 consoles like Saturn and Playstation, and later GBA and DS, were the perfect successors to Neo Geo's 2D.

it is the best sprite based system for it's time that goes for mvs & aes but still it is the best

@@ArtemyMalchuk Saturn yes, PS1 no.

You had shitty arcades then

PS5 is a cheap console that is slightly less powerful than its XBX competitor. Neo Geo was a very expensive console (and games), which was 2x as powerful as its competitors. Totally different ball game.

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It was barely better than snes. Definitely not one of the few times $700 was worth it . Pretty much the only system besides the 3D0 that ever costed that much

@@Spiritcr1jsher That's kind of a nuts remark. The neo geo pulled people in at the arcades. The SNES is also great, but it is not arcade-power hardware.

@@bookoflists The games were mostly not representative of the hardware. Snes towards the end ran arcade quality games like street fighter alpha 2 and mk3 . To say it was one of the few times it was worth 700 is insane . Barely had any good games

@@Spiritcr1jsher Don't get me wrong, SNES is a great system but what you are saying is not true.

We only know the name via emulation!

@@cyrollan Oh no I knew they existed when I was a kid in the 90s but I didn't know a single kid who had one.. and barely remember seeing them in stores either.

That is great. Let me know when you have sent me what I won.