I did, I did. I keep thinking I wish I found this guy a year ago when I started buying video equipment. I don't buy anything without consulting Gerald first.
My "place order" finger muscle is TENSED for the Panasonic S5 (career long GH shooter here) and this Sony shooter almost made it relax a bit. Smaller cameras are so dope, but I think the Panny is still the way for me to go.
They literally made the perfect camera for me. Flippy screen, no overheating, no record limits, good autofocus. There I was about to compromise with an APS-C body because of size / weight constraints and they bring out this! Now to save up for it!
This comparison is ridiculously thorough, amazing job! You've really helped me make my decision! The only thing that you missed was that the A7C has gyro tech for stabilizing shots done in post using Sony Catalyst
I’m running an a6400 now and this is literally the perfect upgrade to full frame. All I do is vlog. This should still work on my DJI Ronin SC gimbal. For RU-vidrs like me this is awesome. Just wish it was 10 bit.
You sure about that? I also have an a6400 but the price here is off putting. Especially with the rolling shutter issue. I love the a6400 but the rolling shutter is rough.
Don Jacobs it’s so rough it can ruin a simple pan if you have a scene with vertical lines, or edges, or texture, or... it can ruin any shot that involves any sort of movement.
This camera is tempting but since I put money into the A7S3 and have 2x A6600s and an A7R3, A7S2 and a ZV1... I feel like the better value for me is going to be getting another G Master Lens, most likely the 12-24mm they just dropped. I think by rounding out my lenses I can wait longer on optimal camera body options.
Best Camera Reviewers on RU-vid imo: Gerald Undone : for pure tech and detailed full information. Phillip Bloom : For film love letters to cameras that go deep. Make.Art.Now: For WTF I didn't know my camera can do that???
When 🎓 Professor Gerald releases a video, I take out the mental pen and paper and soak in that Purple Knowledge. Well detailed and informative review as you’d expect from the Professor. Genuinely impressed and happy that Sony are simply going for it. What a year for them, Sony a7S III, Sony a7C and the PlayStation 5. Yeah, Sony’s taking no prisoners, and I’m on board.
@Gerald Undone I will never watch anyone but you for actual information. Your work is clearly a cut above the rest. You are a true tech and i respect you. It's hard to find real tekkers in a world full of creatives.
This is not a replacement I’m so tired of seeing people acting like Sony hurt them personally with this camera. This is meant to complement your Siii or riii or riv. This is for people who don’t want to carry their full gear. This paired with a pancake lens is the street photographers dream. This is not your hybrid beast meant for making the big bucks on. People will pay 4000 for a compact Leica and nobody bashes them. Why is this any different?
@@RiceCubeTech I completely agree with, they are for different purposes. However, I was happy to sacrifice a bunch of specific A7SIII features for the cheaper price, but it seems I'm gonna have to bankrupt myself. 😅
the thing is with this ultra-light cameras is that you need a gimbal for video work - while a fully rigged cam can get away with the handheld operation. As a7iii owner you are right there is hardly a difference. If the camera had advanced stabilization like on the A7SIII I might consider the camera.
THE BEST CAMERA REVIEWER BAR-NONE !! I bought this in May 2023 as a B camera for my Sony a7Siii along with the Smallrig cage to give it some weight and a much deeper silicone grip. AMAZING! Yes it has some limitations but my big A camera has all the bells and whistles. I put the baby camera on a tripod and it records my wide shots while I run and gun with my a7Siii - same colour science and great low-light sensitivity so I can safely push my ISO! Very very happy so thanks Gerald!! 🇨🇦📸😎
Our conversation immediately after watching. Nikki: That was a good review. Jason: But he didn't talk about any knurling. Nikki: There probably wasn't any. Jason: But I wanted to hear about knurling.
This camera is exciting for me because it's exactly what I wanted. Left-hand side evf alone is worth it for me. I will be seriously considering this for use with all my vintage lenses.
Great info (as always), Gerald! One question for you regarding color/color science... how would you compare the a7C's color to that from the a7Siii? Considering an a7C body as a "B" cam to complement two a7Siii's (whose color is A-W-E-S-O-M-E!), and wondered what you thought.
Listening to your reviews makes me forget I had a bad day, this is where I get the confidence in choosing my future cameras. Thank you mate it was great watching your video.
Caldera APS-C doesn’t get as much love because too many people think in terms of “bigger is better”. It is an unfortunate fashion trend because there are times when smaller sensors with increased depth of field are the best choice.
Or gerald Brownlee : I am using this ...... For few weeks ! But gerald undone has something unique This video will not be seen by ..... Brand until i upload it for you!
Why can't we camera lovers love ALL cameras..... They're like Bond girls to me..... S1H looms over all FF but MFT will ALways BBC smaller & cuter..... AL
I forgot to post this over a year ago, but maybe someone will find it useful: I think the difference in the audio gain is probably a result of the location and orientation of the mics on the two cameras. The A7iii mics are located on the top of the camera and aimed upward. The result is what most people would call an "omni-directional" pattern. On the A6n00 bodies, and on the A7C, the mics are located on the front of the body and face forward, like on most camcorders. The result is a forward oriented cardiod pickup pattern. The reason you needed the increased gain on the A7c was because the cameras were on the table with you behind them. This is part of the reason I bought the a6400. I find the pickup pattern more useful for most video work. In some situations, adding a 3rd party mic actually does nothing to improve the sound, and getting a stereo recording through the camera mics is a nice bonus. (Added Nov 24, 9:16) On further thought, if you put the cameras on tripods, at about 2 - 3 ft and aimed at you, you should find the levels roughly favour the A7c. If a camera puts the mics on top and aimed up, it attenuates noise from feet, but picks up more from ceiling reflections and overhead stuff like leaves in overhead tree branches, aircraft and bird.
Fantastic overview as always from the purple studio that is Gerald Undone. 🎉👍 I liked how you broke down the differences, changes and similarities to the A7III. While I’m going to hold out for the A74, I can definitely see how a A7CII in the future could become the perfect budget full frame camera.
Exactly. First gen products are for proof of concept 2nd and third gen are for perfecting what was there first gen. Glad to see someone isn’t just blind hating
@@RiceCubeTech I also think, that this camera was in development for a longer time. They did not know how the powerful technology of an A7S3 would perform in such a small body and therefore went with the A73 tech. Next time it will probably be more up to date. Hopefully with better EVF, bigger grip and maybe the dial at the front with two custom buttons.
Gerald, it's very impressive how much useful information you manage to work into a 16-minute video. Thank you for making these great reviews and your many other helpful videos. - Martin
this is how a professional review should be, I saw lots of review about this camera, most of them just criticize the lacking of innovation and similarity of A73, but neglect the meaning behind to the camera industry.
Found this more than a year later than you published it. Have already added an A7C to my kit as a small walk around and also added the very nice Sigma DG DN I series contemporary lenses to use with it but always interested in your evaluations. Thank you so much. Keep your excellent informative reviews coming.
Gerald - thank you SO much for the practical Dynamic Range example shots at 12:30 - windows & garage interior, absolutely awesome having talent + skintones in the garage shot - would love to see these shots & similar going forward + compared with other cameras ( Sony A7Siii , Canon R5 , FX6 , cinema EOS , Alexa LF etc ). Would add to your already fantastic rigurous testing database of knowledge - while giving a really nice tangible results of real world practical results - even though understandably there will be more variables. - Thank your model / talent + hope to see more of these DR practical shots in the future !! Keep up the awesome work
Uh no. You’re looking at it compared to their full size bodies. This is not that. This is hot a replacement and you’re looking at the product from your life. Not someone who would find this. The tech to make it this small costs a lot. Offering it for half the price would make zero sense and have zero incentive for Sony to make that. For the people who want to do low key street photography this is perfect. No other camera this small will compare to the lowlight and straight up stills quality.
@@RiceCubeTech any nicer, faster lens and you cant even hold that tiny body because it will be too front heavy. And you will need to add a cage and grips. I don't know, even the RP was pushing it. This is just small for the sake of small, it seems. Maybe it is just a vloggers camera to be used with small primes.
Gerald, excellent review as always... the biggest feature I'm excited about this camera for is the flippy screen!! Really tempted to sell my A7 III and get the a7C just for that!
@@kingsamvisuals "RU-vid centric" - I wouldn't even say that, the IBIS is worse, the pre-amp is audibly worse. It's just a bunch of old parts crammed into a new body which is a complete piss take. Why anybody would buy this over an A7iii is beyond me.
1991ClarkJames currently it’s 1800 usd. I can see this going on sale for 1500 in a few months. Then it would be decent. Otherwise if I want a full frame camera for $1500 the z6 is the one. But personally at $999 the Fuji xt3 is the best deal hybrid camera hands down. I’ll be purchasing one soon.
Great review Gerald! The only thing which was not mentioned is that the a7c records gyro data, which then is stored inside every movie file. With Catalyst Browse you can create amazingly stable footage - i was blown away when i saw it - the stabilization often looks much better than any other digital stabilization - see Brandon Li's video on it. Only a7siii, a7c, zv1 and fx9 currently offer this feature. The a7iii at this point does not record gyro data. Downsides of this stabilization are loss of motion blur and - as it is with every digital stabilization - a crop and therefore loss of some pixels - which in my view are acceptable trade offs.
Huge disappointment. No 10 bit, no 4k60, no new menu, bad rolling shutter, worse viewfinder positioning... After the a7siii I wasn't expecting this bad of a camera.
Instead of releasing a7iv, they had to come out with a rebadged a7iii for video... I dont understand, it wouldve been a better move to release something that matches the canon r6 at lower price
One of the big problems is that everyone is using a variation of the same sensor, the IMX410. It is a decent sensor, but it has the problem that it can only read out the sensor at 40 fps(open gate) and 48 fps(16:9). You need to crop to get 60 fps. To about 2.3:1 aspect ratio(zcam f6 has like an 2.37:1 I think) . Or an aps-c crop(pannasonic s1 and s1h.) The 8 bit isn't the sensor of course, sigma pulls 12 bit raw out of it.
Oh come on. It’s a crippled 2 year old camera, nothing exciting about it. And it’s not that tiny. The difference is not that significant. No buttons, no joystick, 4000 shutter, flash sync 160, etc. unless you need a flip screen just buy the III.
To many negatives for $1800. Especially without the latest touch menus. The A7iii will be cheaper than this when the A7iv comes out. If priced at $1400 I could see APSC shooters wanting to upgrade.
This is a concept camera . As gerald mentioned it doesn't hold much value today but lays a new path for what is coming in future . If people like this camera they can implement it in future new cameras otherwise they wont
How did they cripple it? Its basically a a73 but cheaper and smaller. Its exactly what the market it's aiming for wants, and far exceeds anything that would compete against it.
