Тёмный

The Sony MiniDisc Document Reader That Could Also Scan! 

This Does Not Compute
Подписаться 417 тыс.
Просмотров 66 тыс.
50% 1

Опубликовано:

 

27 окт 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 200   
@s8wc3
@s8wc3 3 года назад
Even though it's extremely simple in reality, the scanner rolling itself over the page is so badass.
@eirinym
@eirinym 3 года назад
I like that the English transliteration from the Japanese pronunciation can be 'data eater' which I suppose makes sense. You can scan and import lots of documents, in essence, eating them.
@gunsunnuva8346
@gunsunnuva8346 3 года назад
Then again, we do say "feeding" something into a machine in English. It might be that idea.
@49Ibanez
@49Ibanez 3 года назад
Just when you think you've seen weird piece of 90s Sony tech, you see a portable scanner that stores on mini-disc. Incredible.
@gregx5096
@gregx5096 3 года назад
This is the sort of hardware Techmoan would be totally into - especially the dual MiniDiscs!
@NicMG
@NicMG 3 года назад
I bet he's kicking himself he didn't get it first
@JoaoSilva-yh4dg
@JoaoSilva-yh4dg 3 года назад
Man likes his NOS stuff, he might very well buy the 250 USD one
@robearr
@robearr 3 года назад
He's done something at least like this before
@blu3_enjoy
@blu3_enjoy 3 года назад
I thought this video was gonna be him until checking the channel name
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts 3 года назад
A friend in High school, his mother was from Japan and had one of these. She had all kinds of cool tech from the late 90s
@omenoflaherty1294
@omenoflaherty1294 3 года назад
Rest easy tonight, viewers, as your fears have been allayed: The serial numbers for the minidisc drives are sequential.
@NiGHTSaturn
@NiGHTSaturn 3 года назад
Every time I see examples of using MiniDisc as memory media other than music and Atrac, I geek out so much. It’s so cool.
@startedtech
@startedtech 3 года назад
Isn't ATrac just music too?
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 3 года назад
MiniDisc was such a lost potential, when we think about how quickly MD Data and audio could have been one thing, but very likely due to piracy paranoia didn't, and only way too late Net-MD arrived, it's kinda sad. It could have replaced floppy and killed out Zip Drives if they didn't get so paranoid about the inevitable, and already occurring. Not to mention been the king of MP3 music (heck maybe ATRAC would be our lossy audio format of choice now) when the - again - inevitable Internet music revolution began. Imagine how popular it could have been if we could rip our CDs to MD on a normal household PC (not counting that special Sony Vaio one with MD drive, FM radio and even an amp built-in).
@Ampera_
@Ampera_ 3 года назад
It's those little squares of wood they shoved into panels from Star Trek, but actually real.
@aturegano87
@aturegano87 3 года назад
Every time I read about atrac I remember the pain in the ass it was to rip CDs into this format and write an atrac CD for my discman.
@macgyver6999
@macgyver6999 3 года назад
@@Kalvinjj many japan pcs had md drives
@catgirl_eva
@catgirl_eva 3 года назад
This is a pretty cool gadget and definitely representative of the time it was released. However, that little Vaio.....I'd love to see it get it's own video (unless it already did)!
@ThisDoesNotCompute
@ThisDoesNotCompute 3 года назад
That VAIO hasn’t gotten its own video yet, but very well may some day. I need to track down restore media for it first.
@GP1138
@GP1138 3 года назад
My mind was blown when the scanner was introduced and then further when it was revealed that this thing has TWO MiniDisc drives. Damn.
@GeekTherapyRadio
@GeekTherapyRadio 3 года назад
"I needed a missing part so I ordered another complete unit." Story of retro-collecting. Sometimes a complete unit is actually easier and cheaper than hunting down a specific individual part.
@PrinceEWS
@PrinceEWS 3 года назад
I'm sure he sold the incomplete unit off to someone else... and so the story continues.
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel 3 года назад
The peripherals that accompany my retro tech purchases are usually worth more to me than the main item.
@disco7379
@disco7379 3 года назад
When I used to mod GBAs I often bought a whole new one just for the motherboard
@jetsonian
@jetsonian 3 года назад
It’s also possible that Wacom had to use different frequencies in different markets and a modern stylus from Japan would work on the old tablet. Just a guess though.
@marcoafonso7084
@marcoafonso7084 3 года назад
I had to stop the video at 3:19 after a few seconds to confirm the scanned documented is actually the next phrases. Great video, as always!
@tombuck
@tombuck 2 года назад
Ok the scanner function and cable manager is pretty awesome. 🤯
@moot6794
@moot6794 3 года назад
This was so good, Colin. Absolutely amazing piece of Sony tech.
@williamharris8367
@williamharris8367 3 года назад
Had this device been available in Canada, one of the faculty at the University I attended would definitely have bought it when it launched. She had several different styles of e-readers and similar devices; they were related to her research.
@jackkraken3888
@jackkraken3888 3 года назад
That scanner was really well made, I wouldn't mind have something like that even now.
@horacegentleman3296
@horacegentleman3296 3 года назад
I love the era where Sony was making neat stuff.
@babyboomertwerkteam5662
@babyboomertwerkteam5662 3 года назад
I don't think Sony misses it considering 99% of these products were complete flops and cost Sony a lot of money.
@horacegentleman3296
@horacegentleman3296 3 года назад
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 look i don't know how well things did I'm just saying I thought my Sony phone with built in PlayStation controller and emulator was neat and i miss it. I wish They'd be willing to take chances more often
@TwistedD85
@TwistedD85 3 года назад
They were pretty much on the top of their game starting in the 80's up past the 90's. They could afford to try things like this and see if they stuck. I really miss the Sony that came out with tech that seemed impossible for the time.
@graealex
@graealex 3 года назад
Yeah, I don't miss the era where Sony made one proprietary and overpriced thing after another. I had a lot of Sony products back then, including a programmable 300x audio CD changer and a MiniDisc recorder, and I'm glad I don't have to put up with these products anymore.
@horacegentleman3296
@horacegentleman3296 3 года назад
@@graealex you chose to buy them.
@MobCat_
@MobCat_ 3 года назад
Damn Sony really really loves that SM-26L connector. I first found it on a psp dev kit, then Shelby from Tech Tangents found it on a sony dvd vcr of some kind iirc. And now you found it on a Document Reader. It's not necessarily a sony connector, 3M also made it back in the day, but a few other Chinese manufacturers make it now as cheap replacements / if you wanted to make your own cable if you can find the pin out for this device.
@Codeaholic1
@Codeaholic1 3 года назад
I've seen that stylus before. Same colors. It was used with a wacom tablet attached to an SGI Indy and Octane 2. We had a pile of them when I worked for a University in ~2000.
@johnhatchett310
@johnhatchett310 3 года назад
Sony, like Apple, seems to have a very interesting attic. It contains very interesting tech that met a need at the time, but was bypassed by advancements in other areas. Thanks for bringing this oddity to light, I still think Sony should bring back the mini disc, but I don’t get a vote…….
@jarrettdoesstuff2318
@jarrettdoesstuff2318 3 года назад
From my experience with standalone Wacom tablets, it seems that the styli have unique device IDs that they report to the tablet, and generally only one kind of stylus works with a particular kind of tablet. Wouldn't want consumers to have the freedom to mix and match, after all!
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад
Yeah, I’ve been able to use an early Bamboo stylus with later Bamboos, including my one’s eraser which their one never came with. But it didn’t work on an Intuos from a similar era as my Bamboo was from.
@SuperNicktendo
@SuperNicktendo 3 года назад
That is a chonker. Got to hand it to devices in the 90s. Pushed the boundaries of what was possible even if it meant that it was bulky. At least now we have foldable phones but it seems a lot of tech companies play it too safe.
@stevenclark2188
@stevenclark2188 3 года назад
That's an amazing bit more than a 'minimum viable product'. Also Wacom intercompatibility is so low I assume it's intentional. Even in the same era I don't think Graphire and Intuos pens were cross compatible.
@starbase218
@starbase218 3 года назад
Wrt paper-based business processes turning digital, you might be surprised by the fact that in Japan, the fax machine is still very much in use. This device was only sold in Japan, which makes all the more sense then.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 года назад
I'm curious: the auction price for these units was not expensive at all, as a matter of fact, quite cheap, but what about shipping, custom fees, and whatnot? Those are usually deal killers for buyers outside Japan.
@jigpu2630
@jigpu2630 3 года назад
Wacom's pens/sensors have used a number of incompatible protocols over the years, so it isn't surprising that your pen (oh look! Graphire4! my first tablet!) didn't work. Looks like that Sony may be using Wacom's "UD" tech , which would be similar to many older tablet PCs. I believe the S-Pen is based on UD, so it could be an interesting mash-up!
@sldkjh
@sldkjh 3 года назад
The stylus is the earlier version of the Wacom tablet pen. The early version has 256 steps in it's brush sensitivity, the version from your Wacom tablet has 1024.
@danielcarnaval
@danielcarnaval 3 года назад
Your content is getting better and better, congrats!
@videossimon4288
@videossimon4288 3 года назад
I don't miss those type of screens. Another excellent video. Thank you
@esseferio
@esseferio 3 года назад
I love Sony’s design of that era. Also, watching this on an iPad makes me realize that we are spoiled today 😁
@AlexanderFort
@AlexanderFort 2 года назад
I saw one of these on an LGR video so I’m glad to learn more. That scanner is so cool!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 года назад
MD Data is intriguing, exactly the same as Minidisc technology. But included enough deliberate format differences to make them incompatible with each other. For music copyright reasons no doubt. Great video, thanks.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 3 года назад
Definitely Sony's own paranoia as a record label killed their product. If they were just one and the same, and you could rip CDs to your PC's MD drive and take the small device with you, then a few years later chuck some downloaded music to the MD like a floppy (before the way too late Net-MD), it might have been extremely popular.
@erinpitt580
@erinpitt580 3 года назад
went to japan in 2000 and bought Sony's Glasstron , the first portable viewing glasses with headphones. around 600 USD at the time. I connected them to a mini Playstation and played my games on the go in my Ship. still to this day, the best audio quality ive ever heard portable was on a sony MD player with a pair of Bose Headphones taking advantage of Sony's personal digital sound enhancements. Sony Was ahead of its Time. what happenned ?
@MrKanejoe1
@MrKanejoe1 3 года назад
The significance of this device would be lost on some, but it's interesting to see the evolution of the technology. Nice video.
@PigDan
@PigDan 3 года назад
Fantastic video, love your channel! 💜
@VictoryHand
@VictoryHand 3 года назад
I always thought it was pronounced "way-com". You learn something new every day.
@indigosandwiches
@indigosandwiches 3 года назад
Wacom is a Japanese company, so it’s only fitting that’s how it’s pronounced. :3
@LelandHasGames
@LelandHasGames 3 года назад
I just love the minidisc format and the tech that it was involved with.
@gigteevee6118
@gigteevee6118 3 года назад
That scanner addition is amazing, could do with a Bluetooth version now (a quick search says no)
@ssjaken
@ssjaken 3 года назад
This is a prime video. Love weird tech like this. I want one!
@dr.abelgideon7747
@dr.abelgideon7747 2 года назад
Amazing. Japan has so much clever and Innovative old tech just waiting to be discovered. But what's even MORE amazing is how PRACTICAL it is. You can advance technology, but you can advance Good Sense.
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel 3 года назад
Just came here to check on the sequentiality of the mini disc drives. Wasn’t disappointed.
@T3hderk87
@T3hderk87 3 года назад
This thing blew my mind, so cool! TWIC used to have a segment on weird technology, always fun to listen to.
@ColinJK
@ColinJK 3 года назад
I love that it has the capability to use not one, but two MiniDiscs for its storage option.
@billsmini10
@billsmini10 3 года назад
Can it be converted to "English"? Users of the "Sharp Zaurus" (which were only sold in Japan) PDAs had different "ROMs" that modified or replaced the onboard OS and converted them to English.
@ThisDoesNotCompute
@ThisDoesNotCompute 3 года назад
Unfortunately no, as these were only sold in Japan, Sony never localized them to other languages.
@CBitsTech
@CBitsTech 3 года назад
Love that scanner. Of course, anything Minidisc is interesting.
@Planeta-Shelezyaka
@Planeta-Shelezyaka 3 года назад
"while many are familiar with sony`s vaio computers. the company also make computer-like product line you`ve probably never heard of" - come on. It's such a common thing that even I have one.
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 3 года назад
Gotta say, it's pretty neat seeing essentially an S-Pen in 1999. I honestly didn't think the tech was that old.
@NicMediaDesign
@NicMediaDesign 3 года назад
Nice to see you scan the script before reading it out loud :D
@cwxdaf152
@cwxdaf152 3 года назад
What a cool device. I imagine it was very useful for business people who could afford it. I love the scanner.
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 3 года назад
Never Knew these were a thing, but now i need one.
@lastatarist
@lastatarist 3 года назад
Wow, great attention to detail.
@yummyburgerpanini2868
@yummyburgerpanini2868 3 года назад
This is so cool from its era, wow just wow
@sittingstill3578
@sittingstill3578 3 года назад
This reminds of the 24-inch tablet I saw in a Japanese bank a few years. One of those items that could only be viable there.
@NekoTheLover
@NekoTheLover 3 года назад
i had one of these when i was a kid, got it for $20 at a garage sale. Was great for school.
@raekane
@raekane 3 года назад
Get a Samsun S-Pen or a TabletPC stylus. I'm willing to bet that it would work. The stylus that you have should work on a Galaxy Note, or a TabletPC. Next you visit a computer store take it with you and test it out.
@saljuice1811
@saljuice1811 3 года назад
Did you try a Samsung S-pen stylus? The Wacom branded drawing tablets don't generally have compatibility with other Wacom stuff but a lot of the tablet/phones from other manufacturers work. For example an S-pen will work on the ThinkPad X200t, the original Surface Pro, my Oynx Boox eReader, and obviously Galaxy Notes and some Samsung tablets.
@questeusher
@questeusher 3 года назад
I need one of these, I love the scanner
@krnelpanic_
@krnelpanic_ 3 года назад
This is basically the same as the modern day Sony DPT tablets where you can read PDFs, take notes with the stylus, and more.
@remino
@remino 3 года назад
Data Eata. The Japanese supply of dad jokes is forever.
@18000rpm
@18000rpm 3 года назад
That is an insane amount of features for a totally custom piece of kit. Golden age of Sony, when they were actually ambitious and willing to take risks.
@Grehovod
@Grehovod 3 года назад
Very interesting! Thank you!
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 3 года назад
Pretty awesome if I must say, ofc it’s not good now but I’d be impressed back then in Japan 🇯🇵
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 3 года назад
That E-Reader could be very interesting…
@donvi1981
@donvi1981 12 дней назад
Hello, the video is very illustrative, thank you very much, I have a question, is this device compatible with Hi-MD? Thank you very much, regards
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 года назад
FYI, Wacom is pronounced like Walk-umm
@knightcrusader
@knightcrusader 3 года назад
First time I heard it called Whack Em!
@disco7379
@disco7379 3 года назад
I always heard people say Wack-Com
@iamspongebobdestroyerofevi5055
@iamspongebobdestroyerofevi5055 3 месяца назад
If it were lighter, I would SO want one now.
@ennev
@ennev 3 года назад
Don’t forget de Clié. It’s was computer like too 😀 they where great pda based on palm OS
@fatalfallacy
@fatalfallacy 3 года назад
Like Palm Pilot on steroids. Always showing off what was possible from hard and software side on this platform. Oh how much I wanted a Clie back in the days. Good ol‘ Sony…
@CoreDreamStudios
@CoreDreamStudios 3 года назад
I wonder if the scanner can scan full pages with color, even though the display can not output it, is it possible?
@MrSouthwest737
@MrSouthwest737 3 года назад
Thats a cool device! I like the built in scanner.
@birdysama2980
@birdysama2980 3 года назад
I remember one of my teachers had a similar device. They used it to scan and correct our copies then print them out later on. I have no idea what it actually was tho. I'm in Canada and it was back in the mid 2000's
@NomeIndeciso
@NomeIndeciso 3 года назад
I think I would have dreamed relentlessly of owning one of these if I'd known it existed back when I was like 13 or so. It's funny to think about now, but there was this highlighter pen I saw on Computer Chronicles that could scan text line-by-line and then view as a text file on your computer and I wanted it sooo bad. If I'd been aware of this device, my young weirdo brain would have been floored.
@Dojan5
@Dojan5 3 года назад
You sure it doesn't do OCR? In the Scan Mode settings you have two options, 文字 (text) and 写真 (picture).
@millsyinnz
@millsyinnz 3 года назад
This is the sort of device that I thought we would have commonplace in the future.
@Pantology_Enthusiast
@Pantology_Enthusiast 3 года назад
"On the left side is a sheet-fed, B&W scanner." "but if you had a number of pages to go though, the scanner is detachable" Me: "that's great and all but what about-" "the scanner can open-up and roll across printed material." Me: _"I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!"_
@midimoog
@midimoog 3 года назад
Is the created file a PDF file? Adobe launched their Acrobat PDF around the same era, so the model name PDF could not just be coincidence...I'm just guessing.
@JVHShack
@JVHShack 3 года назад
With dual drives, I wonder if it was ever used to copy music Mini-Discs...
@supermarketsweeps
@supermarketsweeps 3 года назад
That's amazing little machine shame it did not have a thermal printer as well great vid thankyou
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303
@TheOriginalCollectorA1303 3 года назад
It’s like cool Sony devices never seem to end! This is a really interesting device, plus the portability factor makes it that much cooler!
@angelfoto4795
@angelfoto4795 3 года назад
That stylus reminds me to the pen used in the Panasonic Toughbooks CF, I have one and uses the exact same stylus. I feel bad for being late to this....
@fistbumpbros
@fistbumpbros 3 года назад
I always chuckle when you buy a second unit Colin, hah.
@teriyakipuppy
@teriyakipuppy 3 года назад
Risc architecture? They were way ahead of their time!
@combusean
@combusean 3 года назад
The SH series was common on 1990s devices, especially Japanese ones. It was sega's preferred CPU, appearing on the 32X, Dreamcast, and Saturn, as well as lots of Windows CE PDAs.
@richardccarey
@richardccarey 3 года назад
What model is the Sony laptop you show in the video?
@animon2165
@animon2165 3 года назад
The Remarkable 2 of the 90s
@graywolf2694
@graywolf2694 3 года назад
that scanner would be useful for invoices on road calls
@MaanMH
@MaanMH 3 года назад
Could you please share the URL of the Japanese auction site used to get these units?
@n_3719
@n_3719 3 года назад
if youre in japan then yahoo auctions, in other regions then use a proxy service like buyee or zenmarket
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 3 года назад
Through the magic of buying two of them. 📱 📱 🖋
@Madness832
@Madness832 3 года назад
On a side note, what happens if you load an MD Data disc into an MD audio deck (or vice versa)?
@knightcrusader
@knightcrusader 3 года назад
That stylus looks exactly like the same kind used on the IBM Thinkpad 710T, 730T, 360P, and 750P units. I wonder what kind they are because I would love to get another stylus for my 730T.
@LacayoDe
@LacayoDe 2 года назад
I remember buying a 128mb memory stick for $100 and felling like I had infinite space 😂
@davidjames666
@davidjames666 3 года назад
I am going to cash out my retirement, and mortgage my home so I can buy the rights for this marvelous machine, and re-introduce it to todays business workers. so will make a bundle so I can enjoy my 80’s without worry of being evicted from my home again
@SinaFarhat
@SinaFarhat 3 года назад
Cool device! :) Have a good weekend!
@bigdude101ohyeah
@bigdude101ohyeah 3 года назад
The stylus looks similar to one I had for a Panasonic Toughbook, which used Wacom EMR/Penabled, which, yet again, is different to what their tablets use(d).
@quarterarcade8825
@quarterarcade8825 3 года назад
Awesome 🙏🏻
@abunk8691
@abunk8691 3 года назад
Did the yellowed unit that came with the stylus also work?
@ThisDoesNotCompute
@ThisDoesNotCompute 3 года назад
For the most part yes, though the scanner unit seems to need its capacitors replaced.
@IvanPauletti
@IvanPauletti 3 года назад
Pro Tip for you Colin: Always buy two pieces of each model. It will save a lot of time.
@suprshin
@suprshin 3 года назад
This is amazing!
@rostyc
@rostyc 2 года назад
5:30 Did it encrypt those disks too?
@6581punk
@6581punk 3 года назад
At least these things work. Good luck finding a working old iPad in 25 years.
@gluttonousmaximus9048
@gluttonousmaximus9048 3 года назад
I don't know why but seeing this screen interface and the scanning functionality gives me a rather odd but familiar smell of hot inked paper, even though this thing is not a printer.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 2 года назад
That stylus looks like a slightly different model wacom stylus that I got with a serial unit. Maybe yours was to new? That said the Samsung galaxy note pens the first generation are cross compatible with Wacom and Acer travel mates.
Далее
Sony DAT: What Cassette Should Have Been!
31:28
Просмотров 206 тыс.
Sony's 1999 Forward Looking Vaio Slimtop PC
16:25
Просмотров 121 тыс.
Abusing a 90's Brother Word Processor
20:27
Просмотров 59 тыс.
PowerBook 2400c -- The Japanese Mac Made by IBM
17:06
Просмотров 179 тыс.
Sony’s self-destructing MD Recorder from 2070
14:38
Просмотров 396 тыс.
NetMD MiniDisc into 2022...and beyond
19:27
Просмотров 340 тыс.
Killed By Zip: The Rise and Fall of SyQuest
17:03
Просмотров 182 тыс.
OLPC XO-1: The $100 Laptop (That Wasn't)
11:26
Просмотров 244 тыс.
Why E-ink innovation is so slow
15:30
Просмотров 813 тыс.
LGR Oddware - MiniDisc Data Storage: Sony MDH-10
16:15
Просмотров 588 тыс.