The Sopranos - Why You're Wrong About Davey Scatino 

In a hole in the desert...

@@tgraham1961 --Probably in those sewer tunnels people live in in Vegas.

Meadow actually mentions to Tony later that Davey ended up in a mental institution, and Tony is...unsympathetic

The last conversation dave and tony has, tony gives him a look like "wow this guys guna get fucked up out there"

You act like thats a hot take. When its not talked about because yeah no duh that was the point. Its like saying that water is wet.

I like to think his last bet was on himself 😂

Shame when they go so young

@@TheRealBelisariusCawlwhen they GO?

44, just a kid

He never had the makings of a sporting goods store owner.

To be fair he's the one who bought it

​@@gabrielethier2046no excuse to make his son feel in the wrong. He should have been honest that he messed up

@@michaelbob937 While not to say he was right to do that it's also arguably understandable as he was between a rock and a hard place, you have to remember Tony beated him to a pulp, sent his guys to harrass him or light his dumpster on fire, he was in a life threatening situation. Did Davey brought this upon himself and the whole situation was unfair for the family ? A 100% yes, however as stated in the video Tony just radically amplified his problems and ruined his life in a matter of days (I think), what Tony had done was much worst than Davey as his intentions was to hurt him

Tony took advantage of a situation that’s what gangsters do

@@dionruffin3996alcohol company’s take advantage of alcoholics, cigarette companies of nicotine addicts, gambling is legal in most countries, even pharmaceutical companies profiteer from addictive drugs.

Beautiful fkin nod! 😂😂😂

@CineRanter, I know I've given you a lot of crap in the past, but this line was brilliant.

Pontiac also had a T-1000 model.

Watched this tears after T2 and hoped he would turn into t1000

Have you seen this boy?

Carmela’s Pie never hurt no one!

I like how she acted so much like a mobster in that scene. First a little gift before the intimidation starts (like Tony giving Dr Kennedy a golf club).

Joanie Cusamano had a bee on her hat

😂😂​@@odeleon24

Carmela got her Karma in the end though when Meadows friend Hunter got into medical school and Meadow was just going to become some generic lawyer

great point

He shoulda just tipped his cap and said a salute

He did it to himself. He was already behind with Richie. He showed up unsolicited and uninvited to the game. Tony tried to turn him away multiple times. Then he lied to get more house money while Tony was asleep. I’m not saying you’re entirely wrong about Tony’s resentment, but David buried himself without much help.

Look at this guy he thinks he's Frankie Yankovic over there

@@Asishischudkid Literally what sociopaths say to absolve themselves of any responsibility of their actions. Pushing a man with a major problem literally all the way to suicide and financial ruin for your personal satisfaction and financial gain is pure evil. Tony literally calls this shit his "bread and butter" and you're acting like he only stumbles haphazardly into people who can be taken advantage of. lmfao

yea work on steeling

​@@tombrunn-f9cStealing?

He dug his own grave.

He was a gambling addict. When you're an addict, NOTHING is black and white. Is he sympathetic? No, he is not. But his descent into madness is the same plight that nearly every addict of ANY KIND faces on a daily basis. Some beat it and go on to live relatively normal lives. Some yoyo for nearly their entire lives. However some, like Davey, crash and burn. You don't know what will be, until it IS. That's the nature of addiction and the plight of addicts. Not an excuse, but an explanation.

@@slactweak Take your high moral ground and go sleep in the fucking bus station.

Like they say in Whiplash: give a calculator to a retard and he'll try to change the channel on the microwave. They gave him the calculator knowing what he was. They are not entirely blameless in this. It doesn't take away that Davey fucked up tho'.

We all read that on Tony’s voice!

He used reverse psychology on him. He knew it would interest him anyways.

Bro did you watch the video? Tony okayed him to take a shit tone of money and then he took a little after while tony was asleep.

@@ramonserna8089So he should have said, “please come play we need your action”?

@@CollaredConsulting If he were a friend like with Artie, he could have said "no". He half heatedly discouraged him, but not really. Remember when Artie tries to borrow money from Ralph he immediately says no, because Tony won't let him collect. Richie borrows him money because he knows Tony won't object and he didn't even like Richie.

yes i watched after I made this comment. This comment was my opinion on the topic before watching. He didn't take a little when tony was asleep it was a lot lol since watching the video yea eventually tony said fuck it but dude pushed his way into this in every way so I still don't let him off on his mistakes and i'm not blaming everything on Tony. 80 percent dudes fault and 20 percent on Tony @@darienstubbs2532

No need for such a video. Nobody would think anything bad of him. Your brother was just a little kid, after all.

There's no need. You did 20 years in the can. You've got no scraps in your scrapbook.

I know it’s a joke but he does have a “why you’re wrong about Phil leotardo” video

you'll have to wait another twenty fuckin years.

​@@MaximillianJ Fvckin nauseating

Did you know one ziti equals 1000 dollars Davy is fucked after 45 boxes of ziti.

@@loveaintfree1409 only watched show a thousand times

@@loveaintfree1409 give me one box of ziti

​@lb5818 one box more?

He's got a channel analysing the Sopranos but it's 90% incorrect

Davey kept blaming everyone else for his own compulsions. Vic and his sister had the store in HER name, yet it still didn’t keep him from ruining it, stealing his son’s college fund that VIC had set up.

Weirdly enough, Richie was actually doing more good to Davie by allowing Davie to make weekly payments. Tony was making sure he would get Davie's business inventory.

Do you wanna go for a schvitz?

I can’t, the doctor said heat’s no good for me.

RIP Norm

He's still a grown ass man who made every decision that led to his downfall

Gamblers gonna gamble....

@@Eggy79 So is everyone, but others in our lives can help us in our weakness or take advantage of us. Guess which one Tony is

He was not A master he kept going to see Melfi because she gave him the good ideas.

Then later on Tonh developed a gambling problem so bad, he almost defaulted on Hesh for a whole lot more than 45K.

get back in your fn hole lol

Reminds me of on Sopranos home movies when Tony blamed Carmela for not INSISTING he stop drinking

To be fair if you enable someone’s addiction you are screwing them. It’s a pretty fair question. Tony didn’t need to help him gamble.

@@willissudweeks1050it’s still Daveys fault for starting in the first place he’s not a little kid he’s a grown man who has to make his own decisions

@@willissudweeks1050 he told Davey multiple times NO, Davey is a shmuck

I didn’t even know he was in the terminator until this video, really shows how well he can play two different roles

Yup notice that

If Ritchie could've swallowed his pride a little more and Tony been a little less of a hard ass, they really would've been a formidable team.

Fuck the blue coolers Red Sells.

It's stated in like season 4 or 5 by Meadow that Davey ended up in a mental institution after he left for the ranch in Vegas.

Great post 👍

Artie got a major pass, but he could’ve been in debt for life after borrowing the money for the champagne that ended up being a scam.

Plus Tony felt bad about gloria’s suicide

He let Artie off light

And gave him an important financial lesson when Davie was not paying him short of $200.

the actor went to gambler's anonymous meetings for research, he really got the mannerisms down pat

A varsity gambler

@@brettmajors69karaoke Good one.

But for this case,Tony has gave warns over and over.

No different than Paypal and other "legitimate" payment processors offering pay later option and similar stuff for compulsive spenders.

@@dimulaidari Doesn't matter, he still let him in the game. It's not like warning your friend not to go to Vegas and they still do, it was completely up to Tony whether Davey gets to play or not

In my country there was this big real estate guy who did big projects. He always ran into trouble with squatters who delayed everything so he hired this known mobster and his gang to get them out while the real estate guy kept a clean image. Long story short is they slowly turned on him, took his business over and when he went to the media to tell his story, his life was ended by a hired hitman from ex-yugoslavia

I thought it was Russian roulette

Most of these people are far too selfish to commit suicide. Suicide rates are probably higher in male divorcees than gamblers.

Lmao yeah but gambling addicts are the biggest morons. I understand drug dependence, but gambling is the one where it’s a consistent choice over and over. With this example as well, davey is hoping to make his losses smaller by gambling more and more with money he doesn’t have. He knows he was never going to be in a winning position

@@MahcusSmahrt36 Druggies don't also choose to take illegal drugs?

@@goodyeoman4534 are you still seeing your other woman, Lorenzo ?

I'll copy what I said below: Think of what Tony doesn't say: "You have a compulsive gambling problem, and you need to get help before you destroy everything you've built in your life and alienate everyone you love. What are you avoiding in yourself by engaging in this behavior?" Davey was hooked and just fobbing him off with "This is too high stakes a game" would make him fight harder to get in on the action. That description isn't a discouragement, it's a lure. It's in Tony's job description to know how to keep a desparate fish on the line.

But what about the mythical disease of "addiction" that wields an intangible force over him and robs him of all free will?

​@@goodyeoman4534 I'm not sure where you're being sarcastic here, but there's nothing mythical about addiction. Addicts are responsible for their behavior and have to take responsibilty for recovering and changing their behavior, but they are not in control when they are in the grip of their addictions. They are out of control. The outside world has to try to cope with the destruction they cause. The need for the fix is much stronger than any exertion of will power.

You’re a bad person. Theres good and bad people thats why this is a debate

@@goodyeoman4534so you know more than the leading scientists

The only reason gambling at the state level and not like in the show is that the right people are getting paid (the state).

I think most people wouldn't mind faulting Casinos as being evil lmao. Casinos might be more evil than Tony in this case since they will ban you if you start winning too much

An got killed for being unable to pay and running away instead of working it off.

I never bought that - the frog and scorpion story is just to show he is tough when falling in the debt. He was incensed when Davey basically stole from him and told him to stay away. Selling discounted plastic sports goods on the streets is not a good way of reigning in that level of debt.

@@irisharan3038 This is delusional im ngl lmao, Tony says out loud "yeah I wanted to extort you" and you're calling him a liar? How about just admit yeah, Tony is a scumbag?

Maybe, maybe not. If you had a friend that was going through extreme withdrawal and in pain, you just might.g

@@andrewreisinger6860 I understand compassionate assisted suicide. Completely different from what I was referencing though

Oh he knew. Someone who wasn’t Tony’s “friend” wouldn’t have told Christopher Tony had given him an unlimited line of credit.

"Clipped" people can't pay off debts....

Sometimes I wonder why a video like this was made, why someone who watched the show would need to be explained how Davey was a fool but still being fucked over then I see a comment like this. No one is getting clipped. The whole point of a person like Davey is to keep them alive through the beatings so that they can continue to make money off them. The worst they’ll do is break a few body parts. They die = loanshark gets no money. Do you think the person in debt would have the debt collector in his will or something?

Nah Tony's whole plan was for Dave to be in debt to Tony, so having him clipped made no sense at all.

yea a disease that you give to yourself...on purpose

Thanks for sharing. I´m happy you landed on your feet and came out of it stronger.

@@osr29thanks, but I’m very lucky. My dad died of addiction 6 years ago at only 58. He had received a liver transplant and drank on it, stopped for 7 months and unexpectedly one day within a few hours he was on live support and never came to. I laid out everything I’ve been through because I want people to understand that addiction isn’t a choice. No one wakes up one day and says, “let me spend $30 on these pills that are known to increase tolerance very quickly guaranteeing I’ll be spending about $240-$300 a day within 3 months to get a high. Then I’ll go broke start shooting heroin into my arms. People treat addicts like they’re subhuman. In the US, every hour the same amount of people die from OD as how many people died when BOTH towers went down. But no one talks about the drug addicts dying because “they made a choice”. Yes, addicts choose to spend all their money, ruin all their relationships, go bankrupt and eventually overdose…..Because all of that sounds like such a blast. If you know an opiate addict that wants to quit, google methadone clinics. It saved my life and it’s saved the lives of many heroin and pain pill addicts I know. Thank you for having the care to respond and I hope you have an amazing day.

I've seen many like you, drugs, booze, gambling. As long as the government gets their share from you it's a perfectly fine....

@@chrismemphis8062 yes; I remember one time going to the hospital dehydrated from withdrawing for a full day and I thought I just had food poisoning. The paramedic couldn’t find a way because I was so dehydrated so he asks me, “hey, since you’re such a pro, do you want to find a vein and inject yourself so we can setup the IV?”. Turns around and smiles at the female paramedic that was with him. At the hospital, no one made one mention about the methadone clinic. Why? Because hospitals want me to keep coming back with withdrawals, give me some. crap that gives me close to no relief at all instead of helping me find a long term solution to the problem like methadone.

As an addict who is in recovery, I agree.

Your binary doesn't make sense unless you judge people who don't walk the path of complete abstinence their entire lives. Nobody thinks to themselves, "I think I'll enslave myself to this substance/activity I'm being offered." Plenty of recovering addicts will share that they "poured alcohol into an alcoholic's body". There's a bit of science that a proclivity towards addiction is genetic. The same behavior exhibited by two separate people will have very different impacts. You can AVOID an addiction if you have the prior awareness and education, lots of self-knowledge and a support system around you, but that's not a plentiful combination of factors. It's perfectly plausible and very common for someone to be influenced by their culture and piles of unprocessed pain they're carrying around and find a preferred coping mechanism without really knowing what they're inviting in. Addiction isn't only inheritable, it's deeply understandable.

That’s a good way to put it. Everyone is different, that moment when it’s no longer a choice is different for everyone. It’s not worth flirting with

Da fvck does that even mean?!

@@50PullUps Don’t do addictive things, and you won’t become an addict. In Davey’s case even though he was already an addict he had a manageable debt to Richie who had already told him he couldn’t gamble anymore until he paid him back. And for what it is worth if Tony had known Davey was so in debt to Richie he likely wouldn’t have loaned Davey anything since he already owed Richie and by extension Tony money. The piranhas try not to eat each other.

Lmao

Tony said no multiple times...scatino is a dumb.

@@aleNoyz91 Still would have been possible for Tony to turn him away in the room in the moment, but he chose otherwise. Think of what Tony doesn't say: "You have a compulsive gambling problem, and you need to get help before you destroy everything you've built in your life and alienate everyone you love. What are you avoiding in yourself by engaging in this behavior?" Davey was hooked and just fobbing him off with "This is too high stakes a game" would make him fight harder to get in on the action. That description isn't a discouragement, it's a lure. It's in Tony's job description to know how to keep a desparate fish on the line.

“Ya know Tone how much money is in that rehab game? Madone 🫨” - Silvio

@@allenrubinstein3696Tony did fall asleep and was genuinely surprised the guy had run up a $45,000 line of credit before he woke up and cut him off. Now that said the arc is a bit weird. The guy’s total debt to Richie and Tony is $52,000. The car alone, even assuming Tony is not going to give a fair value for it, would be enough to knock 10% or more off the debt. His house looks at least as nice as Tony’s house so a second mortgage or home equity loan from a bank with a manageable interest rate would have easily paid off Tony and Richie. Surely some time in the apparent weeks it took to ruin the business he would have thought of this.

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 Assuming he hadn't already stretched those assets to their limit with prior losses.

Artie got some redemption getting back to directly cooking in season 6 tbf tho with Tony dead his business might get harassed by Paulie & co more harshly.

There's also a great scene where a drunk Artie outright tells Tony that he smells blood in weak people like Artie in the episode where Artie's alcoholic drink business deal falls apart.