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The Sorrow of Surge | Sonic Speed Reading 

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Surge and Kit take on Sonic, Tails, Eggman, and Metal Sonic as the old enemies team up in an attempt to remove the dynamo cage from the rampaging tenrec. As wild as the fight gets, we still manage to see a deeper, sadder side to the two new enemies in the Sonic franchise.
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@Roastatrice
@Roastatrice Год назад
In Japan, he's known as Dr. Eggman. In the US, he's known as Dr. Robotnik In IDW, *we* know him as Dr. ROGLOCKNIK.
@COOLERthenU
@COOLERthenU Год назад
DOC GLOCK
@potatoemporer2174
@potatoemporer2174 Год назад
couldnta said it better myself.
@ImKeefStrongshadow
@ImKeefStrongshadow Год назад
I legit chuckled at this man
@zippyzoom8786
@zippyzoom8786 Год назад
LMFAO IM DEAD🤣🤣
@justinmyers7587
@justinmyers7587 Год назад
Accurate
@mariobernal2722
@mariobernal2722 Год назад
Starline was out there being a menace to society; first he kidnapped an amnesiac, then he set free a group of criminals, and then he proceeded to abuse 2 "kids" and weaponized them.
@benjaminmcneil574
@benjaminmcneil574 Год назад
What Starline lacked in trying to be successful in his schemes, he more than evened out with their consequences.
@jacobweatherford4696
@jacobweatherford4696 Год назад
This begs the question though if dr starline was capable of making two badass cyborgs what was stopping him from modifying himself the same way?
@benjaminmcneil574
@benjaminmcneil574 Год назад
@@jacobweatherford4696 Ego. Cybernetics are sometimes seen as improving one's self, and Starline saw nothing about himself that ACTUALLY needed improving.
@jacobweatherford4696
@jacobweatherford4696 Год назад
@@benjaminmcneil574 hmm good point its a shame if he had improved himself he might have survived his fight with eggman.
@societygoku6376
@societygoku6376 Год назад
He's litterally me fr fr
@toottootsonicwarrior5777
@toottootsonicwarrior5777 Год назад
Eggman has absolutely NO business being this badass in the comic! IDW is doing the character just so damn right!
@delphoxhoopa7289
@delphoxhoopa7289 Год назад
Same! 😎👊
@jasefrybo2232
@jasefrybo2232 Год назад
Sadly not for the Ultimate Life Form. SEGA did him so dirty
@vito6197
@vito6197 Год назад
My man used the time stones to go back in time to steal Shadow's mojo.
@eliandervalderen5849
@eliandervalderen5849 Год назад
Earlier Archie Sonic Robotnik from issue 40-something to issue 100 something after he was replaced by Robo Robotnik was pretty badass too
@sosichog
@sosichog Год назад
ikr
@mistersp3753
@mistersp3753 Год назад
2:54 Gotta love Eggyy's no-nonsense approach here. He didn't even hesitate in trying to straight-up murder Surge, and he follows that up by grabbing her by the hair and tossing her over his shoulder like a piece of trash. It almost makes you forget about the whole Baldy McNosehair thing. Almost.
@isaandreso215
@isaandreso215 Год назад
IDW's Eggman is terrifying, and I love it
@centralplaystation
@centralplaystation Год назад
BALDY MCNOSEHAIR!?
@mistersp3753
@mistersp3753 Год назад
@@centralplaystation Yes, Baldy McNosehair, courtesy of Pontac & Graff, the writing team behind Happy Tree Friends.
@sth5697
@sth5697 Год назад
Man really said “GET THE FUCK OFF MY MACHINE YOU GREEN PERIOD STAIN”😂😂😂
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
Who said he would change his mind because he had a daughter? People should remember that he is the most dangerous villain in this series
@Moonlight-qo5hw
@Moonlight-qo5hw Год назад
Mephiles would be so proud of Surge for nearly killing Sonic. This whole arc kept my heart beating until the end.
@muanims
@muanims Год назад
Mephiles:"should've stabbed him in the chest, But 7/10 for the effort"
@PlebNC
@PlebNC Год назад
Ah yes, the alpha gamer.
@EternityVoid_
@EternityVoid_ Год назад
Mephiles: I backstabbed the bastard Infinite: I just beat his ass twice. Metal Sonic: I bitch slapped him. Surge: I electrocuted the blue bastard. Giganto: *YEET*
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
*Eggman in his big arms machine managing to somehow damage super sonic* :
@Skibster-w9l
@Skibster-w9l 15 дней назад
@@ParlinWThat’s a bug
@Magicghost23
@Magicghost23 Год назад
Surge and kit are becoming sonics most tragic villains.
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
the end "And I don't have the saddest past in the series."
@matthewgallaway3675
@matthewgallaway3675 Год назад
Shadow
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 Год назад
@@matthewgallaway3675 Shadow was only really an anti-villain. He then became a good guy who always switched between hero and anti-hero.
@Vice_Verse0
@Vice_Verse0 Год назад
Merlina.
@MayomeSanz
@MayomeSanz Год назад
@@Vice_Verse0 what
@TheStrangerintheAlps
@TheStrangerintheAlps Год назад
The negative space draws attention to how small Surge and Kit are in that moment. They're diminished, and they're posturing, but the reality of the situation is that they're small and kind of pathetic.
@GameApologist
@GameApologist Год назад
That is a great read on it, thank you.
@داركماتر-ت1ط
@داركماتر-ت1ط Год назад
@@GameApologist they both are Broken They know they can't defeat sonic tails metal and eggman but they don't have choice after they last mermories and personality and try to be like someone Try find action for sense self
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 Год назад
As someone who was tied in that type of abusive relationship, Kit's remark at the end genuinely spoke to me. When you're a victim, of any kind, you always find yourself being trapped in between two types of people. Those who genuinely want to put you down and those who genuinely want to help you. The problem arises when both sides no longer care about you, and more care about proving themselves right. The abuser wants to prove that what they're doing has no moral consequence and that there might actually be some good they put you through, while the helper wants to prove that they're a good person and that their values are inherently correct. To me, it's the moralization of victimhood that turns it into such a problem, when people forget that some victims don't need some grand moral outlet, but instead their own space to sort things out themselves.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
I mean isn't that kind of an issue for the story then? Eggman is fully aware that he is immoral and evil he builds his own brand around this fact. And Sonic as a character is all about not caring what others thing. He will do what he thinks is right in the moment never caring what others will think about him for doing so. Kit's argument utterly fails because Eggman is so obviously Evil and in it soley for his own gain. And Sonic is not caring enough about being right in the eyes of others as that he just wants to prove a point. For that matter doesn't even the "they need space" argument work as Sonic in Secret Rings with Shara showed that he is fully capable of realizing this and only providing what is needed for them to be able to deal with it (after all Secret Rings was a story about a toxic abusive releashionship).
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 what are you talking about? I’m saying how Kit’s remark relates to me. Not once am I critiquing or discussing the writing of the comic.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
@@blackfox4138 Sorry. What I got from your comment was that you pointed out through your own experience how real Kit's reasoning at the end of the story was. Which I accidentally took as that you think this real world problem is an accurate description of the situation in the comic at this point. With is why I wanted to point out how the real-world equivalent doesn't really work as everything about the situation makes it clear that Sonic is to 100% in the right and Eggman to 100% in the wrong. So I hope you can unterstand why I with my misunderstanding did wrote my initial reply
@Netherwolf6100
@Netherwolf6100 Год назад
I can understand how you feel, but when one person tries to help you, there's an innate aspect of the situation where the helper of course believes their way is right. If they didn't believe their morals, values, ethics and perception were better than the one the victim is going through, then they're either setting the victim down an uncertain path they have no understanding or experience in Or, they're the Eggman side of things being that they're trying to lead you down a path they know is wrong purely for selfish desires. When someone helps you, its because they believe what you're doing is wrong, possibly hurting yourself and others and you should follow their line of thinking more. In truth, even if Sonic wants to prove his point to be correct, his point is that they have a choice to be Beyond Their Programming. They have a right to be free and not slaves to the rules and burdens someone else placed upon them and that they don't have to kill to find happiness. There's not really a morally grey area in that argument. He's not telling them to join his side, fight against Eggman and become a hero. He's telling them to stop being slaves to an abuser who's already gone and can't hurt them anymore.
@joseperalta3500
@joseperalta3500 Год назад
@@Netherwolf6100 Yeah... but in the headspace that both Surge and Kit find themselves right now, figuring that out for themselves is just not possible. Let's give them time and see what happens.
@smoogieboogie1694
@smoogieboogie1694 Год назад
There's a lot to be said about the psychology of these awesome characters, but instead of rambling as I'm wont to do when it comes to psychology, I'll just say this: I really want a short story where Surge and Kit come across Big who's fishing and they just find themselves inexplicably venting while he proves the perfect listener. Imagine this super wholesome relationship building where the only one of Sonic's friends they're friendly with is Big because he's so out of tune with the rest of the world that he doesn't even know about their circumstances. Like they lose a fight with Sonic and pals and then just go "C'mon, let's head to the Mystic Ruins. Find that cat."
@Stardust_Dynamo
@Stardust_Dynamo Год назад
I would love to see this
@gamejitzu
@gamejitzu Год назад
reminds me of that Revved Up episode where Big helps Sonic to stop stressing out. Afterwards he asks when Big became a therapist, and Big just responds "I didn't" and vanishes out of existence. And Sonic just stares in shock. It'd probably be pretty bad if that happened to Surge and Kit though..
@amagicalbeing7427
@amagicalbeing7427 Год назад
I have to draw fanart of this Edit: I did :)
@ceresgc
@ceresgc Год назад
I hate you because now I will be sad if that doesn't happen
@DrSuperLuigiSeth1
@DrSuperLuigiSeth1 Год назад
Big is just the mediator between everyone.
@wakeangel2001
@wakeangel2001 Год назад
I kind of love how this issue shows another instance of Eggman being able to physically overpower the mobian characters. Like, "you might have superpowers, but that doesn't change the fact that you're the size of a small child and weigh 50 pounds, so I can just pick you up and YEET you into the nearest wall if push comes to shove." That's pretty freaking metal when you think about it.
@brianross3988
@brianross3988 Год назад
i don't like the idea of that. i always think that even though Eggman is hyper-intelligent, he's still a frail old man. so when the hell was he able to casually throw sonic characters across the room? it doesn't make any sense to me. and don't tell me it's cybernetics, they would have shown that, still think it's stupid.
@wakeangel2001
@wakeangel2001 Год назад
@@brianross3988 You wouldn't need to have superhuman strength to do that though, I have a 10 year old niece who is so light I can easily lift her up over my head even though I'm not a particularly strong guy, Sonic and the others here probably weigh that much or even less, so even if Eggman has only ordinary human strength the simple act of lifting and chucking them is pretty easy. If you look at what happens it isn't like Eggman is blocking a punch or using some epic martial art, he's just grabbing an extremity and bodily flinging them somewhere (it's exactly what he did to Starline a few issues prior, when he went for the kick Eggman managed to grab his leg, got him off balance, and threw him to the floor.) If he tried to grapple or arm wrestle with Surge he'd likely have all his bones broken, but picking her up isn't a tough task, and the shock of being thrown off balance plus having her hair pulled like that could have served as a distraction for at least a couple seconds, it's not like he tried to hold her for an extended period.
@brianross3988
@brianross3988 Год назад
@@wakeangel2001 i still think Eggman should NEVER be the least bit versed in physical combat whatsoever. he's a wormy scientist, not a soldier or martial artist. that's why his robots and vehicles compensate for it.
@benjaminmcneil574
@benjaminmcneil574 Год назад
@@brianross3988 Wormy? This due broke a wall of ice with his bare hands. Just because he doesn't like getting physical and finds it beneath him, doesn't mean he can't do it.
@alexrowe7063
@alexrowe7063 Год назад
@@brianross3988 the doctor is a 6ft+ middle aged man. Even among average humans he's a freak of nature, next thing why the hell would he keep himself frail if he's no stranger to cybernetics.
@finneganfox6470
@finneganfox6470 Год назад
I'm glad to see how Evan is handling themes of trauma and abuse in these stories. I felt recognized by Surge's characterization and it really breaks my heart for her. Hopefully Surge and Kit get a good ending, it's cheesy I know.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Год назад
I hope they don't; hear me out, a lot of people make awful life choices that are heavily influenced by their trauma, and they fall in an ever deeper pit than what they started with. It's very important to show the pandoras box of fuck ups that someone volatile can do, and doing it with a fictional character is the best course of action. Kinda like Bojack Horseman.
@spiritpyros
@spiritpyros Год назад
Yeah evan has always been capable of handling this type of subject haven't finished this video yet but definitely check out their ghosts of the future fan comic if you liked their work here
@introv7956
@introv7956 Год назад
@@BBWahoo I’d understand this POV if they were older, but these two are children, the honestly should get a happy ending
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Год назад
@@introv7956 Well, if they do get a happy ending, I'd like to at least see them get lower and lower so their resolution becomes extremely satisfying after seeing them go through hell.
@ballownfist3497
@ballownfist3497 Год назад
@@BBWahoo as awful this sound, I kind of agree if it make surge a more deadly foe for sonic and his pals, than I’m all in
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander Год назад
I do like how Robotnik doesn't have anything particular against Tails. It's like he respects Tails as an occasional adversary but it's not personal
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander Год назад
I feel like what Robotnik says about Starline here just strengthens something I've said in the past: Robotnik doesn't want to kill Sonic, he wants to _defeat_ Sonic. Definitively. In a way that even Sonic has to admit he's been beaten
@MyrmidonRadd
@MyrmidonRadd Год назад
@@M_Alexander Eggman even flat out said as much right to Starline. If he wanted Sonic dead, he'd just carpet bomb him in his sleep
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander Год назад
@@MyrmidonRadd exactly. He doesn't want to win that way. He could do it and rule the world at any time but it's more fun to conquer than to rule
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
People remember how he emphasized to Sage that he was his own daughter, said her father was great, and respected his grandfather and said he wanted to be a hero like him. He doesn't just want to slaughter and ravage the world, but he is an attention seeker who wants to be the center of attention around the world like an amusement park without being able to distinguish between right and wrong. of, Even Zavok has the heart of a warrior and trust in his friends. In this way, Starline and Mimic may be the most dangerous Sonic villains than the above two.
@yocapo32
@yocapo32 Год назад
@@ドラゴンリュー-f1x As far as Eggman is concerned, he's trying to make the world a better, technologically advanced place, and Sonic is just getting in the way of progress. Well, most of the time, at least.
@LuceoX30
@LuceoX30 Год назад
I've had a vibe of domestic abuse from Surge and Kit's story; and they're lashing out after such a long time of trauma done to them. It's a sad sight to see the two go through so much, only to make the worst possible choices that are fostered from their raising. Strange part is, I saw it at the start, but thought the connection may have been weak. Glad to know I'm not the first.
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
It's ironic considering that Eggman, who was initially abusive at first, trusted Metal Sonic and decided to love Sage as his daughter. At first glance, starline should be able to be a more decent parent than Eggman, but he's a poisonous parent + kidnapper
@SenseiRaisen
@SenseiRaisen Год назад
@@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Eggman said it: Starline was one of the most brilliant minds he find. Sadly, he wasn't .... right from there too 🧠👈He was able to commit to do things Eggman didn't dare to do it. Eggman could be a d*ck and it is, but this Eggman shows he doesn't want to cross certain lines for the sake of his plan.
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
@@SenseiRaisen Suggested since the unleashed that during the Force he fed captive civilians enough to cheer, and on second thought it wasn't the world he was trying to bake in the sun that kept getting in the way. I remembered that it was only the resistance army Oh my god, it's clear that he's a businessman who only gets rid of people who get in his way of being unpleasant. He really has the industrial spirit to match Sonic, whose only wish is to turn the world into a toy box and his own territory. Given that Starline probably did bad things without this trait... it's possible that he's taken more casualties than Eggman.
@moldyshishkabob
@moldyshishkabob Год назад
Same here. The IDW team has done a fantastic job on building characters and consequences. We have such a great character dynamic in Surge and Kit that's brought due to building up so many others.
@sonicsaiyan07
@sonicsaiyan07 Год назад
I brought up this theory before but: Remember how the Sol Emeralds were able to cure Sonic's amnesia? Is it possible the Chaos Emeralds could restore Surge and Kit's memories? Not necessarily undo Starline's brainwashing but at least have them remember who they were.
@whichcache2517
@whichcache2517 Год назад
Starline used the bio-data that Metal Sonic had for both Sonic and Shadow to convert Surge and Kit, so I imagine this means that they'll eventually gain some form of chaos control further down the line. (Jesus, imagine Surge and Kit with superforms...)
@SheathedSword1764
@SheathedSword1764 9 месяцев назад
@@whichcache2517Blaze I’m pretty sure does go super with the chaos emeralds but unfortunately I don’t see Surge and Kit being allowed to have super forms, use the emeralds, yes I already mentioned Blaze, however SEGA themselves(I know it was said and is canon but might not have been someone from SEGA who said it) that only male hedgehogs can have a super form. Basically I think that the chaos emeralds and super forms work is that anyone can use the emeralds to “go super” but only male hedgehogs can have the super mode. But if other characters were allowed to have super forms I do agree that seeing the yellow fur look on Surge or Kit would look cool.
@survivorgaming379
@survivorgaming379 7 дней назад
@@SheathedSword1764 maybe not a super form but something like a dark form possibly
@alexrowe7063
@alexrowe7063 Год назад
2:52 I'm praying they let the egg glock become a main stay. The thought of eggman never being caught lacking is hilarious.
@Morbius-Tension
@Morbius-Tension Год назад
It honestly would add a little realism too he is an evil genius after all if ion got my robots I’m shooting yo ahh😂
@SuperSaiyanD48
@SuperSaiyanD48 9 месяцев назад
Message from the future: it has 😂
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
Eggman being American lmao
@Guntshot
@Guntshot Год назад
I think Surge’s and Kit’s big idea for defeating Sonic, Tails and Eggman was too bury them all in the base. That’s why they seem so somber about it, it’s basically taking them out with themselves. It kinda seems weird because Surge has been seen surviving rubble crushed on top of her but maybe an entire base crushing them would be too much for their regeneration.
@sonic5993
@sonic5993 Год назад
Its not really clear if they escaped or not.
@Guntshot
@Guntshot Год назад
@@sonic5993 I assume they did, I hope they did, they are really great villains.
@sonic5993
@sonic5993 Год назад
@@Guntshot pretty sure it was intentionally written to be ambiguous
@thedarknessinthelight9824
@thedarknessinthelight9824 Год назад
Were yall just neglecting the info in the video? Because Kit was obviously ascending with Surge in his arms to safety. When he said "bury you all, along with our past", he wasn't talking about himself and Surge, but the data Starline had recorded about their creation.
@higaiwokeru
@higaiwokeru Год назад
Maybe the regeneration activates on command, meaning that if the rubble hadn’t killed them they would’ve laid there until they died
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS Год назад
Kit really did say "Screw you guys, I am going home"
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
"Nawh,fuck this,I'm leaving"
@lilbasenji1
@lilbasenji1 Год назад
I love how the relationship between Kit and Surge has evolved since they were introduced. It’s so fitting how what seemed like a forced partnership has been replaced with one of genuine friendship in a way. At first Surge kinda bullies Kit and now she needs him to keep her mentally stable (their relationship at first reminded me of Azula and Zuko). They are victims of a bad character and now have to find a way to live in this world where (in their eyes) everyone is their enemy. Funny enough this kinda makes me think of how Metal Sonic or badnics would act if Dr. Eggman died but were unable to go against their programming to destroy Sonic and his friends. It’s also interesting how the dynamo cage represents using substances to cope with that pain. While I personally don’t want Surge and Kit to always be the focal point of the comic series I do hope that they stick around as antagonists. But I also hope they have a good ending. They need some happiness even if they stay villains.
@eNCy.
@eNCy. Год назад
13:47 Eggman saves Sonic because of two reasons... 1. He knows he can't go against Surge by himself, and... 2. He doesn't want Sonic to die to Surge. HE wants to be the one to kill Sonic, and he isn't going to let someone take that away from him.
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 Год назад
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy or a simp: I love Surge. She's flipped the whole "rival" trope on its head in her own way; and while she may not be the most unique rival of all time, her story is definitely one worth following ☺️
@Meepalasheep
@Meepalasheep Год назад
I think the "empty" panels you mention around 10:10 illustrate them almost like these dejected, wild animals. They're more scared than anything, but they have eachother. But when backed into a corner, they get feral.
@Guntshot
@Guntshot Год назад
I just think that Surge is the pinnacle of everything that has happened in this comic, she is a living testament to all of Sonic’s shortcomings, I know the moral talk has been ran into the ground but I think all of that has led up to Surge. Kinda hope they drop the moral talk now that Surge is here.
@Fatboyftw32
@Fatboyftw32 Год назад
I gotta imagine to some extent that Evan was just helping to wrap up Ian's plot threads since she directly had to follow what happened in issue #50, which I thought was a good conclusion to everything Ian wanted to say in terms of Sonic's morals but I guess Evan wanted to expand a bit more on it. I imagine it'll calm down now outside of stories where Surge is a major player.
@shadowhunter0815
@shadowhunter0815 Год назад
You know, it's kinda comical in a sad tragic and heartbreaking way: Starline, for all his talents, skills and ambitions, could have been so much more. But his obsession with Dr. Eggman let him waste all that potential. And because of that, the only legacy he left was that of an abuser.
@justanotherchannelwithauno7580
He isn't that different from Robotnik. His talent and good nature are wasted on being a villain, his narcissism always screw him over and his allies are always betrayed
@SuperGodzilla2
@SuperGodzilla2 Год назад
i hope Surge and Kit come back, would love to see her interact with Shadow, not so much to see them fight but to see how similar they are.
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 Год назад
Maybe it would open up Shadow’s mind to be more compassionate and stop being edgy.
@natashakatgaming6987
@natashakatgaming6987 Год назад
Well that depends on if Sega lets him
@crapcase3985
@crapcase3985 Год назад
@@rickyrackey7930 hate what IDW has been forced to do to him.
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 Год назад
@@crapcase3985 Sense the mandates are going down, Imagine if Shadow opens up and apologizes for his aggressive behavior.
@ChaoticSonic400
@ChaoticSonic400 Год назад
@@crapcase3985 I often remember how shadow was portrayed in the Sonic Twitter Take Over. He was edgy and grumpy, but still had a soft side with hobbies and interests outside of his day job (as a G.U.N. agent). He also doesnt hate sonic, he just finds his personality and philosophy annoying, but he does enjoy competing with him. I think IDW could use that version of shadow without it going against SEGA's rules.
@SaiyanGamer95
@SaiyanGamer95 Год назад
Considering how angry Surge can be, it's worth noting that oftentimes, abusers are victims of abuse themselves. I'm sure you've heard stories of how this bully was picked on when he was younger, so now he bullies other people, or how a bully has a bad home life, so they take it out by being bullies at school. It's a lot like that. Often times, abusers are victims with deep-seated issues, anger, and frustrations relating to their own past and I feel that's very apt with Surge. And the fact that every time she sees Sonic, it's just a reminder of what she had to deal with from Starline; her entire being, her past, her personality, all of it was wiped away so she can be his personal Sonic. Surge herself went from, whatever she was prior, to a perverted mirror of Sonic. Literally, her entire identity is just "Sonic". On a lighter note, I do hope to see more of them down the line. I'm not completely sure how I want their story to go; I'd be up for Surge and Kit remaining as antagonistic rivals, mellowing out while still having a (less than friendly) rivalry, or even being true neutral (as in, they're only loyal to themselves and their relationship with Sonic and Tails can change at any moment; enemies, allies, whatever. Even being enemies, but working together where they have a common foe). Full on good guys? I don't know, but I don't think that's something I want to see from them.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 Год назад
I think them being allies of convenience when the situation calls for it or being neutral antagonists works fine.
@SaiyanGamer95
@SaiyanGamer95 Год назад
@@camerondalton1495 You know, I'd be up for that. Largely keep to themselves and only working with Sonic and Tails if they feel the situation in question requires them to work together. But I'm curious as to what a "neutral antagonist" refers to. Since the "antagonist" character is defined as one who opposes the protagonist.
@noheartx9992
@noheartx9992 Год назад
I would love for Surge and Kit to meet and talk with Shadow. I think they might be able to come to an understanding. Seeing as he was a creation and rival to Sonic as well. Maybe he could mentor them. Would be very sweet and heartfelt.
@Morbius-Tension
@Morbius-Tension Год назад
Or he could kick her ass
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x
@ドラゴンリュー-f1x Год назад
She's a tragic person, but unfortunately she'll probably grow from here to a brutal villain based on concept art and Christmas illustrations. A new nemesis of Sonic created by a crazy man who overestimated himself as superior to Sonic, Eggman, etc.
@wondr.ful.
@wondr.ful. Год назад
Just wanted to point out - he had every right to think so. He was remarkably perseverant and smart. If he made any miscalculations, it wasn't with inventions or tech, but instead with the PERSONS.
@vaquishers
@vaquishers Год назад
Metal is literally the definition of “it’s on sight” and it’s hilarious
@dhark0n332
@dhark0n332 6 месяцев назад
Metal:i'm a simple robot, i see sonic, i kill sonic.
@manmale4625
@manmale4625 Год назад
If you think about it, Metal Sonic had a similar situation happen to him in Sonic Heroes "I was created for the soul purpose of destroying you. But I could never seem to defeat you, that is why I transformed my own body with my own hands" "See me as I am, no longer afraid of anything" "I Am Metal Sonic, I Am The Real Sonic"
@lettuceplay2569
@lettuceplay2569 Год назад
When people say that a happy or good ending is cheesy, I remember Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, where Perrito keeps being ridiculously optimistic and everyone makes fun of it and calls him immature, but in the end he helps Puss and Kitty overcome their pasts. Just because it's the cheesy thing to do doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do.
@ultragodzillafan
@ultragodzillafan Год назад
You know, that speech Surge gives about 'Being in Sonic's shadow' and 'not being free as long as he lives' it kinda makes me think of Metal Sonic. That obsessive hatred, the single minded desire to fulfill their purpose, to be better than Sonic. Anyone else notice it?
@rosalyth
@rosalyth Год назад
As a kid, this WAS my reality. Being used. Being hit. Being made to be a person I wasn't until I eventually left at only 16 years old. For a while, I was the worst version of myself imaginable, and I dread what a relapse for me could look like because of the person I was. Surge and Kit are people I see a lot of myself in, and having them as a kid would have made me feel a lot less alone. The pain never goes away, and when that's your reality you can never really know peace, I think. It breaks you, and not every piece is gonna fit back in perfectly. But you have to keep fighting. Not only for yourself, but in spite of the people that hurt you. Every day, you have to fight and make sure you DON'T give them the satisfaction of seeing you fail. And you've gotta make sure you're becoming everything they WOULDN'T have wanted. Don't let their grooming win. Your pain will be a part of you forever, but you can use that pain to better yourself. To help others who are hurting. If anyone here is in a similar rough spot, don't give up. It gets better, and there will always be people out there who love and support you throughout it all. I know from experience it can be hard to accept love and help when you've gone your entire life being robbed of affection. Keep fighting. Whether for you, those you love, or in spite of the ones you hate; you can't let them win.
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
The only way to truly win is not to give a darn about what they want, because those fools are just as immature and flawed as anybody else. You're going to make mistakes and fail, but those things are the steppingstones to success. Just keep improving and learning from every moment. Leave those who wrote you off from the beginning in the past and let life sort them out.
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
Damn homie,bro's the real life Surge the tenrec
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
Ayo,looking back at my reply,it sounds terrible,sorry
@rosalyth
@rosalyth 2 месяца назад
@@ParlinW i hate sonic /j
@superequinox4185
@superequinox4185 Год назад
personally I love it when eggman tosses a bitch like a salad, he's a grown ass man and he's the main villain for a reason. Break bots all you want, but if you get up in his face? my man will not hesitate
@COOLERthenU
@COOLERthenU Год назад
Fuck with the doc you get the glock fuck with the bots you get boped
@alexrowe7063
@alexrowe7063 Год назад
LET HIM COOK
@ParlinW
@ParlinW 2 месяца назад
​@@alexrowe7063BRO BETTER THAN GORDAN
@KraziShadowbear
@KraziShadowbear Год назад
When I first knew about Surge and Kit, I didn't mind seeing them in the "Anti-Sonic & Tails/Scourge/Dark Mirror" trope, but as the comics went on, I was surprised at how much they changed and how much *suffering* Surge was expressing and how much chaos she was causing all because she was looking for something that didn't exist. I didn't fully understand where the story was going or what was the reason Surge was acting this other than wanting to burn the world to the ground and start anew just to feel some relief in her life, but this video and comic really explained a lot. I'm surprised that I didn't even think about abuse and trauma being at the "core" of these characters so much. The amount of pain they've both experienced and the fact that they can't go back to their previous lives, whoever they are, and they don't feel like they have anything other than their pain, literally being defined by it is heartbreaking. Imagine your past self no longer existing. In its place is this suffering "monster" who's just looking for a way out of this mess they were forced into, with a state of mind that will never let them be free in life. I would love to see a secondary mini-series (like a follow-up of Impostor Syndrome, but just Surge and Kit and the hallucinations of Starline) of just Surge and Kit trying their best to live as just the two of them, alone in the world, interacting every so often with other Sonic characters (Amy, Blaze, Silver, Shadow, Espio, Big, etc..) and learning more about these character's stories and perspectives and the world, despite their own skewed, abused perspective. They'd only use their powers to defend themselves (and either to steal food to survive or do some minor heroism/terrorism) and just try to escape their past even more and find new peace and purpose. Something like that.
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 Год назад
That other mini arc would be cool. I could see them finding a way to escape to the sol dimension and finding something akin to peace.
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 Год назад
lol this entire comment jus made me realize this is like a weird yet interestin combined version of Secret Rings & Shadow the Hedgehog (05) which is pretty cool so thx for that
@exodus_6969
@exodus_6969 Год назад
So we got the metal virus showing us the fears of the pandemic, and the surge and kit saga showing us what abuse can do to people, just gotta say the team for IDW are geniuses, and they should keep up the good work!
@Vikumax
@Vikumax Год назад
Revisiting this issue, I keep having the eerie feeling in the back of my head that while all the focus is on Surge the reeal trouble brewing will come from Kit. Surge is a formidable threat, sure, but I feel the level of untapped power Kit has been displaying has increased more and more since Inpostor Syndrom. And while Surge seems to violently struggle against her wants and what Starlight did, Kit seems to develop different: Not only he seems to have accepted his role as Surge's protector, but in his eyes he has seen what the others do and feels like they have all broke his trust. No I don't think Kit will somehow betray Surge and become a big shot villain. or something like that, but rather that in his desire to aid her, he'll bring somethng much more extreme. Some villains do horrible things with the best of intentions, after all; And unlike Surge his methods are more methodical, less of a wild bullet and more like a prescise nuke strike.
@infiniteoctopaw
@infiniteoctopaw Год назад
“Freedom is right there! Just reach out and take it!” “… I can’t…” while she grabs hold of nothing. My heart SHATTERED! When the issue first came out I didn’t see hardly ANYONE talk about what a stab in the chest that was. That and her rant while holding sonic under the water electrocuting him. Telling him flat out that so long as he lives she can never truly be free. It hit. It also made me extra annoyed that she ever had the infinity lamer “make the world pay” reasoning. *This* is soooo much better. Now I hope they retroactively just have her be a public meanness just for the sake of draw out sonic and his friends. She doesn’t need the boring “world bad” stuff with something this juicy on hand. And it’s probably best if we keep her away from the moral event horizon. I want her to someday be a true spicy anti-hero people trick themselves into thinking Shadow is. And be a more agro hero foil for sonic. She already does that now, but I’d like for my poor babies to get the therapy they are owed. On the other side of the forth wall I’m cheering for them the same way Uncle Iroh did for Zuko. I want them to be happy 😭 I don’t care if they make nice with sonic! Just let them find freedom! As foils, I like the thing that separates them is Freedom. Sonic is free to do anything he wishes with no one to stop him or hold him back and he uses it to help people because that’s what he wants. Surge has zero freedom and because of that she hurts people, because she has too.
@dannyvalward1524
@dannyvalward1524 Год назад
Well, I too think, having a more personal angle is more interesting, a lot of severe abuse victims feel some kind of hatred for the world that didn't care for them in the slightest. So I don't consider it lame, Surge has the means to fuel her anger. Also, they have already have something better than therapy: true friendship, and I hope it get's explored more.
@licktasty
@licktasty Год назад
There are lots of directions Surge can take now, not sure I want her to be a good guy. We've got a lot of characters in that space already. Team Dark, Babylon Rogues, Knuckles to a lesser extent. She's probably going to have to do a lot of self-reflection after this loss, which will be difficult for someone that shares a temperment with Sonic. That will be interesting to see. I think eventually she's going to move past her programming/trauma and settle in as a more destructive and anarchic version of Sonic, doing whatever she wants. The difference is that Sonic understands his freedom doesn't justify trampling on others, while Surge does not have the friends to reinforce that idea. If she's not redeemed she probably will end up as a "It's me against the world"-esque character, but I think they can do that right. As long as there's no brooding and vowing to destroy this uncaring world, which seems out of character now that Surge's personality and arc are properly established.
@licktasty
@licktasty Год назад
​@@dannyvalward1524They could do a lot with the friendship angle. Remember that it's not even organic, Starline programmed Kit that way. Surge and Kit could explore a lot of different relationship dynamics but I don't know how far IDW wants to push a comic for kids lol
@tinydragon5447
@tinydragon5447 Год назад
This story arc’s been crazy, I’m looking forward to where the comic will go in the future!
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 Год назад
Despite Dr. Starline being presumably dead, the effects of his actions are still being felt. He’s the reason Dr. Eggman returned. He’s the reason Belle lost Mr. Tinker. He’s the reason for Surge and Kits tragic suffering. All for his own selfish agenda of returning Dr. Eggman to his former glory. To end the “Sonic Cycle”. So many people were hurt or will get hurt because of his actions. Surge and Kit are unfortunate side effects of his actions. Because of him, they both suffered from so much psychological trauma that they will forever be trapped with Starline. Even though he’s dead, visions of him will still torture them, especially Surge. She will never be able to be free. That’s honestly very heartbreaking. Starline forced them into being what they are.
@shadowbrain4814
@shadowbrain4814 Год назад
"Why would you bother with me? You already have him." I know this was brought up in the previous episode, but _damn_ that line hurts the more I think about it. In my interpretation, Kit sees himself as nothing more than a filled role, a skillset used to compliment his superior. Sonic is fast, Tails is smart. Surge is fast, Kit is smart. But it seems to me that everything that's happened to him has convinced him that if he's not useful, he has no reason to exist.
@Richforce1
@Richforce1 Год назад
Honestly Kit's bit at the end felt like another bit of darkness, that of...suicide. That the place they needed to be was not in the world, that he had to destroy everything Starline made and that included the two of them.
@estydiaz3751
@estydiaz3751 Год назад
This is so heartbreaking. Seeing her say she can't with such a sad look in her eyes broke me. Thank you for covering this. She really feels she can't break from what was worked into her mind. Feel like she is saying she is not MADE to walk another path.
@DMS8DX
@DMS8DX Год назад
I relate. It's like you're sick for so long, feeling normal becomes abnormal. Because feeling sick feels comfortable and safe, so you try to keep chasing that feeling even if its self destructive.
@Deoxys_Used_Mimic
@Deoxys_Used_Mimic Год назад
It’s not that Eggman doesn’t want Sonic to die. …it’s that HE want to be the one to kill him; even if it means saving him from someone else.
@lemone630
@lemone630 Год назад
If I had a nickel for every time Eggman just flat out pulled a handgun on an anthropomorphic animal I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
@AAhmou
@AAhmou Год назад
It happened twice in the games, SA2 and Lost World, in addition to the times it happened in the comics.
@ninlaw9810
@ninlaw9810 Год назад
eggman can also throw hands
@Kailova07
@Kailova07 Год назад
Eggman problem solving: Plan A: something super over the top for show Plan B: **a fucking glock** Plan C: **YEET**
@akiramystic3596
@akiramystic3596 Год назад
"It’s not about being right, Kit. It’s about doing what’s right. If you two want to be alone where no one can bother you, that’s fine with us, but if you try to hurt innocent people for your own benefit or sick enjoyment, then you better believe that Sonic and his friends will be there to stop you. Every time."- Rush Maverick
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 Год назад
Honestly, if we pick up with them again that would be a good end point for their characters.
@Andriy_Sklyar
@Andriy_Sklyar 11 месяцев назад
Idiot, they are brainwashed, they literally can not change their mind, they cannot forget, cannot rid off from the implanted thought, the only way to save them it's find their past origin, their family, friends, help them to remember and not to teach them about morale and how they must live, they are to broken for that.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Год назад
I can certainly believe surge has borderline personality disorder, at least that's what I got from your own analysis. Interesting, the last time we had a character like this was scarlemange from kipo and spinel from Steven Universe. The whole identity thing, constant distress, being caged, looking for escape, prolonged pain, shame, conflict and hostility. All the abuse they've ever known becoming who they are, definetly a lot of heavy themes here.
@CrystalArtest
@CrystalArtest Год назад
I wonder if the reason why Sonic n Tails couldn’t get through to Surge n Kit is because they are basically at they center of their trauma. Maybe a different character can get through to them without them feeling like they are being “preached at”.
@Rabbitearsblog
@Rabbitearsblog Год назад
I'm thinking it's also because Surge and Kit were programmed to hate Sonic and Tails. So, Sonic and Tails' pleas fall on deaf ears because no matter what, Surge and Kit are forced to hate them. It makes me wonder if there will be another character who can get through to them, if that ever happens.
@NezumiVA
@NezumiVA Год назад
Very good takes. I find it incredibly disheartening when I see people saying Surge is nothing but a "bitch" or saying she and Kit are annoying, and their ordeals are "typical boring tragic backstories" because...yeah, it's dressed up in a fantastical presentation - but these things are intensely, uncomfortably relatable. And while, of course, it doesn't typically turn people into murderous electro-criminals, it DOES create raw, _messy_ responses. Victims aren't always perfectly pitiable, there is a lot of pain there that many aren't in a position to handle with grace. Surge and Kit, for that reason, _definitely_ felt like an outlet to me, and a damn well considered one at that. I think it's fair enough to break from them for now, give the readers time to digest their arc and build up a bit more steady of a development - but I'm very curious to see where they're taken in the future for this reason. Could be tragic, could be heartwarming, either way I know it'll hit me where it's sadly very familiar, and I really appreciate that.
@VantasticJackson
@VantasticJackson Год назад
Surge got me interested in the IDW Comics. And seeing this come to a close is...something else...i've yet to see the end of this. Waiting for the website i read it from to update. Wish to someday buy and own the copies myself. Hope to see Surge and Kit in a video game appearance someday. Perhaps a Sonic fighting game including several Sonic game and IDW Comic characters (because i can't think of the last time there was a good Sonic fighting game) Edit: till next time. Kit was a gem and showed he is not completely dependant and can make his own decisions, which was great to see. And Surge. Well. I hope she'll find a purpose aside from the one Starline hardwired into her. She shares some similarities with the Androids from Dragon Ball Z. They wanted to kill Goku but both were able to find new purposes for eachother...though that was only due to Celm hunting them down and Goku biting the dust
@khalewren2734
@khalewren2734 Год назад
Man this arc was so good. Looking forward to more stuff written by Evan.
@fishflop_
@fishflop_ Год назад
Killer art in these issues. That full page at the end of #55 is one of the all-time greats.
@grimsonforce7504
@grimsonforce7504 Год назад
Adam Bryce's work is amazing, I loved how he captured Surge's sinister smile.
@M4x4r0ni
@M4x4r0ni Год назад
I think a part that makes characters like Surge and Kit somewhat therapeutic, is how for individuals who've gone through terrible shit that molds their psyche but know that they have to get themselves into some form of stability so that they can keep going, characters like these are like an escape. It's like screaming into a pillow because you can't just tough it out anymore. It serves as burning through those feelings in a way that isn't self destructive kinda release. I think it's interesting to look at for the lineup of characters for the IDW series. The continued exploration of trauma in particular is interesting, because we've seen it in Surge, in Whisper, even Belle. I'm curious to see what direction they take the story next with everything we've seen by this point.
@drcoolcabbage
@drcoolcabbage Год назад
Eggman praising someone else's abilities purely to brag about his own is the most Eggman thing I've ever seen. IDW absolutely NAILS his character.
@Bysthedragon
@Bysthedragon Год назад
I don't think that Shadow should be considered a Dark Mirror version of Sonic, the fact that he looks like an "Evil Sonic" was meant to be a red herring to Shadow's actual character. The Fact that Shadow and Sonic look similar is because Gerald Robotnic based the design of Shadow on a Echidna mural that predicted the eventual fight between Super Sonic and Eggman...so Shadow was technically made in Sonics image he is also the predecessor to Sonic and I like the idea of Shadow being the older grizzled Hero who isn't always nice but always tries to do whatever it takes to save the world to Sonic's Hotshot idealist who tries to save everybody and Silver being the Rookie with a ton of potential but lack of experience.
@CappyKitten
@CappyKitten Год назад
All I can say is... damn. The IDW series really is pulling out all the stops now it seems. I've said before Tangle and Whisper are my favorite heroes in this series, but now I would definitely say that Surge and Kit are officially my favorite villains from IDW Sonic. Seeing them develop from their introduction to now was amazing, and I loved every step of the journey.
@MelonTartVA
@MelonTartVA Год назад
Honestly, Surge is one of my favorite characters. I find her relatable as a victim of abuse. And I feel like when Surge says "I can't" it's some part of her not wanting to do this.
@Aeonian_puppy
@Aeonian_puppy Год назад
I'm going to go have to pick up this saga in stores. I need it physically. Surge as a character is starting to mean a lot to me which feels weird. But I can relate to lashing out over trauma, sometimes at people who don't deserve it. I think Evan Stanley did a wonderful job on the story here.
@AstroTom
@AstroTom 11 месяцев назад
As someone who suffered from a form of abuse very early in my life, i really resonate with Surge. Thanks for handling this topic in such a respectful way Nick.
@justinmyers7587
@justinmyers7587 Год назад
Sympathetic characters are sometimes the best characters because you know they are doing wrong but you just want to help them. Surge and Kit are no different you want them to get better but you know it's going to take a while and a lot of pain to get to that conclusion but that conclusion may not be a happy ending all we can do is hope they get the help they need
@Sunny-uz8cw
@Sunny-uz8cw Год назад
Oh, 9:02 definitely was a silent tension moment. No music (if it was a cutscene lol), no banter, just a bit of a serious moment. I like to think that Surge and Kit know he really doesn't want to fight, but that's what they _have_ to do. To protect themselves and keep their own path. Panel three was the look of acknowledgement knowing what was ahead, and then the battle erupts. They don't want any silly presentation nor any monologue. They just want to get through with it.
@delphoxhoopa7289
@delphoxhoopa7289 Год назад
I liked this comic arc, but it feels like it missed *a lot* of chances for interesting new plot points. Especially with the Starline hallucinations. They just....disappeared. I hope at the very least we get another separate comic series to see what Surge and Kit are up to! 🥰 ...Also, they *knew* what they were doing with that one frame... 5:24 😏
@Anemonemonemona
@Anemonemonemona Год назад
I can't help but see myself in Surge... It kinda makes me cry actually. My life as a kid was not the worst, but certainly not the best... I was raised in a bizarre way where I didn't had choice, voice or will... This culminated in my teens being just like her; violent, arrogant, a bully... I was so tired of being the victim that I wanted people to feel worse than I felt... Maybe that way I could find peace... But I didn't, I too started being alcoholic at an early age (14). The people I really cared about began to abandon me for my ways of living and being... I was destroying them AND myself. Everything changed after I finally snapped out of it... it happened when I found out I was a Transgender woman... but I still had this rage inside of me... this undefeatable fury that wanted to make the world burn, that wanted the OLD me to burn... I think of my old (male) me as Sonic, everybody loved him, saw him as a cool kid (mostly because I hid my ugly sides except for closest of friends wich i didn't have many), he was a champion at sports, good looking, someone charismatic. While my true self (Female) is Surge, every one of those things, but I still compare herself to him one way or another. It was my GF that thaught me that I didn't need to be better than him... I just need to be myself and that's enough. I think Surge and Kit need people like my GF in their lives, not necessarily love interests, but someone who says they are loved and appreciated just for being themselves. With that and a little bit of time, they'll surely turn into their own heroes and surely overcome the feeling of insufficiency and imposter syndrome that they have~💜
@Teebyzmal
@Teebyzmal Год назад
My nearly crying at this story aside, this is the first time I've stayed and rlly enjoyed a patron reading from any channel ahah, you just keep it so real
@greensonickid3304
@greensonickid3304 Год назад
Spoilers Starline deserved his gruesome fate after all he did to Surge and Kit
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Год назад
How'd he die?
@Jacob_G9
@Jacob_G9 Год назад
@@BBWahoo Beaten into a metal floor by Eggman PERSONALLY and then Crushed by the collapsing eggbase.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Год назад
@@Jacob_G9 Lmao, killed by the very person he admired. Well deserved, if you know which comic # it is, please let me know!
@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp
@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp Год назад
Maybe it’s for the best that he doesn’t return.
@sonicfan82
@sonicfan82 Год назад
@@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp yeah, I don’t want him to return.
@musicjunkie1089
@musicjunkie1089 Год назад
Thank you for not caring if you get demonetized to just bring this issue to light. I've lived through some downright hell in my childhood. Familial lines weren't ever honored in any sense from any family member. To this day, my mother refuses to admit that she knew anything about this abuse when she helped decide how much I got oftentimes. I found the IDW series through you, and I've started seriously supporting them. Again, thank you and hopefully IDW thanks you for the truly magnificent work you're doing for them. P.S. - Let them know I've already purchased 7 IDW comics and plan on filling my collection further soon.
@dreadthemadsmith
@dreadthemadsmith Год назад
Just what I needed today, sadness for a Sonic Villain. IDW knows how to get the feels and I am all for it. Can't wait to see how they work in Sage.
@ponderingForever
@ponderingForever Год назад
God, IDW Eggman is AMAZING. Every time he's in he's so menacing yet whimsical. And who wouldn't be-- when you got to keep up with a world full of supernatural rodents able to control all sorts of energy casually.
@szkraft220
@szkraft220 Год назад
Okay, I never even thought about that substance thing. That's actually clever, and while I'd prefer not to think of that aspect when thinking about this story's purely in-universe events it is an interesting alegory, one that holds a lot of water, as you point out. I've seen a lot of people have problems with Surge and Kit, calling them shallow and whatnot, andI seriously could not agree LESS. I haven't been a victim of abuse, but these stories still touched me and I think i is really impressive that Evan manages to write multiple fights into this arc while STILL giving us new exploration of these characters with each one, that is jsut GREAT stuff. I think she did a fantastic job with this. And I am honestly just so so happy that this WASN'T the end of their story, I was concerned about it for a second, but naaah, they'll be coming back. And I hope they will! The comic could use some reoccuring aversary for a tiny bit more time, even if they're not as clear-cut villains as some people see them as. Something that was really awesome for me aside from all of this still WERE the fights, they were still jsut beautiful and I LOOOVED seeing the ways Surge used the hyper-go-ons it was great... And how she starts using two at once at the end and how she goes into that painful rainbow in the last one... GOOOD thats... wow, ABT and Evan jsut did FANTASTIC here I'm definately looking foward to Urban Warfare, apparently thats a story written by both Ian and Evan half-n-half. I'm hoping we'll see more of that Tangle-Whisper-Lanolin trio as well as team dark and silver with blaze, weve got enough sonic, amy and tails already
@krisprowler3199
@krisprowler3199 Год назад
I am so excited to see more of Surge and Kit and where their story goes; they have become so much more than the sum of their parts, if you'll forgive the lame pun. It's good to see so much character building and depth on display here and done mostly tastefully, even while SEGA flat out refuses to let their titular characters experience any.
@MasterMemo
@MasterMemo Год назад
Kit's final point works in real life, but it's tricky in a comic. How is Sonic supposed to deal with a villain who is trying to kill him and others who also thinks he's just morally grandstanding? His only solution is to just keep incapacitating them like he does with Eggman, which we know doesn't solve anything.
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 Год назад
Eggman saving Sonic was a bit of a shocking scene... No pun intended.
@maverick12070
@maverick12070 Год назад
These recent Issues were wonderful. They made me really fall in love with Surges Character full on. I'm so excited for what happens next to her and Kit.
@woods6720
@woods6720 Год назад
I love the IDW comics they are so good
@joncarr1200
@joncarr1200 Год назад
23:35 This right here. You hit the nail on the head.
@DrDirtyLeggz
@DrDirtyLeggz Год назад
The biggest thing that bugs me about the games is they don't show how audacious and villainous Eggman is. He hasn't topped -pissing on- blowing up the moon and threatening to do the same to earth. Yeah, he's split the planet into pieces and tried to 'Bites the Dust' Sonic and his younger self but it was always in a madcap and wacky tone. The comics have been able to capture how much of a egotistical bad guy he is with his talks with the heroes.
@GBlastMan
@GBlastMan Год назад
This whole thing was more like when people always thought that Spiderman could never do anything wrong and he was always a shiny example, that he always came up on top at the end because he is the good guy, but later on we can see how terryfing he can be when things arent all that well, and that most of the time Peter isnt on the right side of the story, that his way of doing justice sometimes is flawed and even if he tries his best to stop or make that villian see the error of its ways, that person will stay that way no matter how on the right he is. Heroes might be this force of good and justice, and their morals are always "right" but there are times that the villians they face cant be fixed or talked off from where they are because sometimes if all you know is dispair, sadness and rage then you will never come out from it no matter how hard some people might think that "making you see that you can be happy if you stop being stuck in that dark place" people need time, and even so sometimes some scars are way harder to heal if they can be healed at all that is.
@sufi09853
@sufi09853 Год назад
I think Surge and Kit can be refromed. Its just somebody needs to get through to them and try to be suppotive through what they have experince in order for them to be a good guy. It may take time but their story can be worth it. And maybe through their discovery of figuring out what their lives where like before Starline, then maybe it could be a way of exploring their charcters even more then ever before.
@weaverreaver4448
@weaverreaver4448 Год назад
Seeing a chaos drive, even for just a second got me so hyped. I alwasy thought the chaos drives were the coolest of ideas from SA2, and seeing them reference them brigns a stupid smile to my face like you wouldn't believe. I love the attention to detail these comics have.
@theamazingmaymay123
@theamazingmaymay123 Год назад
I honestly wish this comic series chills be animated bc watching Kit say sthis line softly while destroying the base would GO SO HARD.
@Pocket_of_Explosives
@Pocket_of_Explosives Год назад
Everytime i see the dynamo wires just dangling around her I keep thinking "dang, if only one of these guys had a sword or just something sharp..."
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Sonic and probably metal can become living buzzsaws... The solution to surge's defeat was super simple and obvious... But everyone is made slow for more melodrama, but that makes the plot end in a very contrived way.
@Moonlight-qo5hw
@Moonlight-qo5hw Год назад
I know, just cut it off. I was thinking of why not breaking the wisp holders in the first place since they’re made of glass.
@raditz2737
@raditz2737 Год назад
Like as much as its likely Sonic's heart stopped but I like to think he was completely conscious through all of that even at the end there and that look was him honestly not knowing what to do or say. As cheerful and uplifting of a guy Sonic is there are just somethings that you know nothing you do or say will help and with Surge having spilt every ounce of her being at Sonic in that one moment anyone would be left speechless too. Also not to mention that he probably just had a years worth of wattage of New York City coursing through his body.
@NosBlueade
@NosBlueade Год назад
Because Ian has been slowly making himself a golden goose for the IP, I look forward to 10 years down the line where we get things like Tangle/Surge revenge fight, Shadow/Surge death battle, and Surge and Kit meet Nine in his purple prism universe.
@johnsullivan9064
@johnsullivan9064 Год назад
I really hope we get a side story set of comics for the these two. Maybe introduce their march to anti-hero status, finding a way to be the 'replacements' to Sonic and Tails on their own terms. Bonus points if we have them run into one or both of there families looking for them.
@ricardobr1493
@ricardobr1493 Год назад
Eggman trying to ice people will never not be funny to me
@shadowsta9
@shadowsta9 Год назад
5:43 Tails looks so tough but also so cute here! I also like the way Sonic is drawn.
@SeanGokuu
@SeanGokuu Год назад
Surge and Kit by the end of this have developed a sort of kinship...kinda like the two they were created to eliminate. It's like poetry, y'know, they rhyme. Also has anyone felt like Surge and Kit are kinda like Androids 17 and 18? Like in the sense that they were kidnapped, minds wiped, given cyborg enhancements, and made to take out the hero of their respective stories?
@RealLarsUlrichISwear
@RealLarsUlrichISwear Год назад
Bro uploads at random times when I don't hink he will and I love it.
@bluejayplays7308
@bluejayplays7308 Год назад
Eggman follows Sun Zu's teachings "Stay strapped or get clapped" -Sun Zu
@Marccubus
@Marccubus 11 месяцев назад
Surge is honestly one of, if not the best Sonic character to ever be introduced. I just can't help but love her.
@415-k1ub
@415-k1ub 8 месяцев назад
I also enjoyed seeing Kit's relationship with Surge evolve. His role as Surge's support started as merely something that he was forced to do, then it became something that he desperately cling on to because he doesn't know how to be anything else, and at the end of this issue, it was something that he chose to do because there's no one else who can. Kit is the only person in the entire world to share exactly what Surge went through, and in a world that seems like no one is truly on their side, Surge and Kit need each other's support the most.
@HurricaneSparky
@HurricaneSparky Год назад
Surge seems a lot like a version of Shadow that never had anything to be grounded by. She mirrors Metal's dilemma of being programmed against freedom, and her lack of familiarity with anyone and anything leaves her untethered to something to care about (besides Kitsunami). It's cruel and tragic that they're trapped by mentalities and instincts that they cannot fight against. Neither of them have identities because of things outside of their control (and even Metal, which Sonic has pointed out), so her antagonism and animosity with Sonic is all she thinks can define her.
@mistersp3753
@mistersp3753 Год назад
7:24 It certainly looks like a Pikchu, doesn't it? It has the ears, face and tail. That might be the most Pikachu-looking silhouette I've ever seen, and that's INCLUDING all of those "Who's That Pokemon" segments.
@datrollface567
@datrollface567 Год назад
If I had a nickel for everytime Eggman manhandled a mobian of some sort, I'd have two nickels, which isn't alot, but its weird it happened twice
@SkaiCyan
@SkaiCyan Год назад
I love Surge and Kit! You know the archetypes they're working with but they never go quite where you think they will with them, it all so very VERY good.
@jeom3808
@jeom3808 Год назад
I think there's a bit of a misrepresentation/misunderstanding of Kit here. I personally never interpreted Kit's silence as "understanding" of Tails words, but rather, manipulating/playing Tails for the sake of the plan. Surge wanted to ensure that sonic couldn't flee from the lethal electric water trap, so their plan was to lure him into use the wisp platforms and drop him. this wouldn't be possible if tails was nearby to help him/grab him. hence, Kit kept luring tails away from sonic and paying into Tail's weak spot. I could be wrong here, but I don't think there's enough to say that Tail's words were reaching Kit, I think the ending demonstrates the opposite- but that's not to say Kit hasn't developed his own perspective/mindset.(who knows, maybe Kit actually will lie to Surge about Sonic's status, we'll have to see- personally I can see Kit playing a more pivotal role now that Surge had her spotlight, and perhaps if Kit goes to an extreme Surge will care enough about Kit to break the obsessive cycle. that to me sounds like the best ending for the two.)
@theguy2119
@theguy2119 Год назад
Life moves fast and as a result you have to ingest your media just as quickly. Not everyone has the time to let a story sit with them. I read this and understood bits an pieces of what the intention was. But having this video series around really helps me appreciate this more than I would have alone. Thanks man
@bluestar5812
@bluestar5812 Год назад
Man, so many characters and storylines. How come Sega still haven't capitalized on the IDW universe and made games or animated shows based on said universe is still a mystery.
@bumtee1223
@bumtee1223 Год назад
5:25 - 5:32 That panel DOES look a bit questionable but I'm assuming Sonic was just being cheeky in using his foot to pause Surge from sliding back further.
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