The Sound Couple - New Bands...New Sounds! 

What nice change, right?

The spectrum of time for drummers is huge to get their kits up! We have beat some drummers out the door while others are gone before you realize it!

Should I have sent him home?

​@@thesoundcoupleWill your insurance be happy with a pay out, would they drop you (likely in the best case scenario) or take your LLC to court and put you in a position to start all over again? A broken foot orthopedic workup/surgery is a HUGE payout in the U.S. Requiring proper footwear is cover-your-you-know-what for the business. Even if you win lawsuits can and will cost tens of thousands, and no, the losing party will not be ordered to recompense.

@@slofty Things work a bit differently in the US. Jed is an independent contractor so that makes Jed responsible for Jed, not us. How an independent contractor works is up to them and we compensate their labor, but they are responsible for the outcomes of his decisions. There are negligence protections, but what shoes he chooses to wear is not part of that...that's his freedom of choice. Unfortunately, we see personal responsibility shifting in this country as more people here are eager to shift blame and make others responsible for their outcomes, and they are winning....The day I ever have to tell someone how to dress to cover our own liability is the day we pack it up!

Thanks for your continued support Dean! We have a few more lessons to share. If not, at least we can be entertaining!

Wow! That is cool...never imagined we would get some information on something like that!

I grew up in Minnesota and I remember siren tests occuring 1st Wednesdays at 1:00.

@@briangray4640 and the dogs just love it!

Thank you for sharing and coming along with us....every video is a journey!

Thank you!

This was a great gig! Thanks!

Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch!

Building a system is an adventure! We went big on our wireless mic system and glad we did when we did. Seems like prices just keep going up!

​@@thesoundcoupleprices have gone berserk!

@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Not calling out Shure, but they seem to just keep raising prices frequently without much regard...I can only assume it's working for them, but no way we could even consider some of there products now...some nearly doubling in price the past few years.

It was in the title...LOL!

That's a great question that I will answer for you...the use of FX is something you need to find your own voice on as there is no really right or wrong...but perhaps some guidelines that we use. Reverb: drums/horns/vocals. Delay: Vocals. For both FX turn it up to where it's noticeable and then back it off (that's our preference). We prefer a short delay at about 150ms with minimal feedback for delays. All of this depends on the style of music and room acoustics. We will use a tap delay on vocals to for certain songs when appropriate. What style of FX? Whatever sounds good to you but there are certain definitions of what a type of effect is generally used for what...all topics that are really covered with an endless stream of opinions on the Internet. The point is for you to sit down with a mic and mixer and explore!

Thank you. Referrals are a great sign of just that, but we realize they are not the foundation of our business. We realize we have commented on this more lately and don't want to mislead the fact that it's our core clients that drive our business, not referrals. Referrals are great for many reasons including your comment!

I am little jumpy by nature and it was very loud! And there it was again!

I was a little off camera, but I was sol'ing so I could listen in my PSM 300 in-ears. The solo did not impact what you heard through FOH.

For this type of music, not at all. I do get uncomfortable when a drummer does not have a port for other styles of music like rock or funk.

We have thought about it, but we have a similar device with our Cricket: galaxyaudio.com/products/cpts/

@@thesoundcoupleI have that Cricket device as well. If you don't have Smaart it helps with speaker phase. Sound bullet is a bit different. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rjj4cGWXnVI.html&ab_channel=Sonnect

In this video, we were using the PreSonus CDL12's for mains and PreSonus 328ai's for monitors. They are technically a "point source array" so kind of a hybrid speaker of a traditional and line array.

Under the settings wheel in Universal Control, there is a Monitoring section which includes how you want headphone out to function and what you want it to monitor (main, solo, aux) and a volume knob. The 32r also has a master physical volume knob on the unit itself. So lot's of flexibility but lots of places make sure things are configured properly to fit your needs.

@@thesoundcouple Perfect, I'll try it and tell you later. Thank you for your attention.

Ahhhh...crap! I apologize...the the screen sync got messed up and didn't realize it! I brought down the mixes at 29:47. The front monitors were on two separate mixes. Sorry about that!

IKR, it seems like a nightmare to sync the cam video and the stream of the mixer's video. Great job Bart! @@thesoundcouple

Final Cut makes it manageable with its sync to audio feature. I just screwed up somewhere in the editing. It's all there, just not together in this segment...oops. @@soundgineering4771

Sure! We once were wired into 3 phase power and did not realize it. We had amplifiers then and it took two of them out...thankfully it was blown fuses, but the amps were out of service for that event. More recently, a sound buddy of mine was provided an extension cord that the venue wired 220v by accident. Took out his RCF sub...Our CDL cabs would have been fine since the power supplies are universal and can handle 220V...still doesn't make it right! In one of our gig logs, we were at an outdoor show and there was no ground! Didn't ruin any gear, but it was certainly a safety issue and we got rained on....what disaster did we potentially avoid? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ro9rZaSBdRI.htmlsi=D9C38L9Teo1P1PYX

Yeah...I think that's just how he rolls. Part of the challenge was the fact that the shortest distance was through that fence. In addition, we needed to stay staggered which lead to me doing most of the pack in the van. I am not as good at it as Stacy and hand carrying slows down too. As I was watching, I wondered if carting everything up and going around would have been quicker for both of us to be at the van....but then Jed would have been waiting for me to call things out to pack. Stacy and I definitely have a system, and thanks for noticing how things change when we aren't doing this together and our process is hindered. That's exactly the point I was trying to make in extending some parts....process and continually trying to improve them is never ending!

We have an Ideal Suretest. Not cheap, but definitely cheap insurance!

For this gig, absolutely. You could tell we were getting nice coverage with the brushes on snare with the first act. Not a default approach for us, but a nice option especially when you are not sure what to expect.

For this style of music this is absolutely enough. Some solid overhead mics will catch so much detail and dynamic playing... the dynamics are so important for this. I've recently had the opportunity to mix some instrumental jazz music, the stage plot I received asked for 2 overheads only. No kick or snare. I brought along two SM81s and it was absolutely enough. 2 well placed overheads can go a long way.

@@theflyingalamo Do you have experience using kick+overheads only with rock/pop? OH positioned to focus on drums?

@@davidbrock6263 for rock and pop I'd absolutely get the snare with a mic too. If it's a quick throw and go gig I might just do kick snare. But would rather close mic every shell. In smaller venues vocal mics will pick up all of the cymbal you could ever need. For quick 15 minute changeover multi band festivals I've done kick/snare/overheads with great success. But if I have time, I want a mic on every shell. 2 OHs, and a high hat mic.

Sure...not a bad choice.

Yes you can, but I believe the 16r is limited to 16 channels total, so you would need to stick to an NSB 8x8 or 16X8. They allow you to distribute your channel inputs beyond just the mixer.

@@thesoundcouple So it only serves as a digital snake? Can't you make more than 16 inputs?

@@fraerstudio2328 No...a stage box will not extend physical input count beyond what the console itself supports.

@@thesoundcouple how kind thank you man

We appreciate you taking the time to watch!

Yes...not practical but that's his style!

@@thesoundcouple I wouldn't wanna drop something! LOL!

We hired a concrete guy that did the same thing...now what could go wrong there!@@williamthesoundguybalestri1745

We will likely be using our CDL12's more because that's what we have more of. If we were starting again, we would consider whether 4 CDL 10P's would do the job....which they would for the majority of gigs we do. However, we still some bigger shows or outdoor where the CDL12's are needed. So the CDL10's would scale us at our limits where the CDL12's leaves us some space....which makes sense, they are a bigger cabinet. Aaah, to answer your question on this video...the CDL10's would have worked just fine here.

@@thesoundcouple cdl12p for 1 each sides can accomodate bigger events like big functionhalls and largebasketball courts?

@@thesoundcouple and during your gigs how many max people can accomodate with cdl-12p

@@thesoundcouple my main foh now is fbt x pro 112 A point source speaker if I upgraded to presonus cdl12p is this will be a greater leap to my upgrade and setup?

@@jirehhumbertdiwa7369 Your questions are very subjective as the space is only one consideration. We can't answer this question for you, but we have literally hundreds of videos on our channel showing gigs and different applications that we use our system for. Hopefully they can provide you the information needed to get a sense of how they would fit with your needs.

Yes...the PreSonus world and AVB can have its moments....it's getting much better though.

​@@thesoundcoupleshould be better after their certification is done and implemented into the firmware! I had a faulty 32R too., that made me look bad at more than one gig. Finally have some backups, so it's in Baton Rouge under warranty repair (cold start issues).

I have had to power cycle the QU-16 I use at fixed FoH installation, twice I think.

@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup I jinxed myself! For the first time ever, I had to power cycle my SQ-5!! Never before! It worked at sound check but then a short time later all the sound was garbled! At first I thought it was a bad EtherCon cord. Everything went back to normal when I power cycled the SQ-5. Thankfully this was BEFORE the start of the band. Frikkin' weird! So there ya go!

@@williamthesoundguybalestri1745 Every digital device shares some of the same chips, regardless of brand, place of manufacturing, or quality. And they all glitch at some point. The power cycle moves it past the glitch. It's when they have to be power cycled multiple times in a startup is when there's more of a problem, and not just the chips (voltage problems internally can cause the serious problems. This is what my 32R experienced. And it was a known issue with PreSonus during COVID years. I'm on the A&H forums too, and some of them, QU and SQ, also suffered a similar problem. The QU I use is 2014 though. Its power cycle times is the standard digital chip problems).

The Sound Couple is part time...both Stacy and I work day jobs!

Just our standard pack plus tarps? This gig was certainly a nice change of pace for us!

@@thesoundcouple fair enough.... I've always just been a pack what I need for the gig kinda guy, rather than leaving the truck loaded always. it's a bit more work on the front end, but I always found things at the gig were less chaoric, and the in's and outs were always quicker

I get accused of "too much gear" too, until I have something that's needed, cause it's in my kit!

That's a severe weather siren...they will go off to inform you that threatening weather is approaching. They are tested on the first Wednesday of every month and that is what this was..just a test.

Thanks for your interest!

This are used to warn of severe weather. They are tested monthly and this was a test .

@@thesoundcouple Thank you for your answer. In Poland, they are used in volunteer fire brigades to summon firefighters and are mechanically driven by an electric motor. In what area do you operate the sound system?

@@jacekalchimowicz1321 Thanks for sharing! We are located in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

These cabinets are coaxial.

Complexity goes way up when you account for two bands regardless of their needs!

The Sound Couple needs to update their shoe policy!

@@thesoundcouple 😂

To clarify, the siren is for severe weather warnings. They are tested monthly which is what was going on here.

這是星期三…警報不是空襲，而是惡劣天氣警報，每個月都會進行測試。 測試發生在我們準備的時候。

Thank you for validating our choices of what to let play out. We weren't trying to call out anyone, but watching other people work is very valuable. Unfortunately, that can be considered "boring" to some, but there is so much to be learned and we don't have the opportunities to see others work in this capacity...whether it's us or anyone else.

Oh, so you must be super human, or not human at all then.

Ouch!

Many factors involved in determining what gear ultimately ends up on the stage....yes, your logic can be applied to any show yet the final product and outcomes can vary greatly.

He brought minimal gear really.