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The Standards of Symmetry Explained 

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In this video we look at Steve Reeves recommendations on how to Develop Classic Physique Proportions using The Standards of Symmetry he developed using Bodybuilding Measurements from Bodybuilders from both the Silver and Golden Era! Enjoy!
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@gazzajedicarpfishing8718
@gazzajedicarpfishing8718 Год назад
I think also worth mentioning is Steve also mentioned that to be proportion that the arms, kneck & calves should all be the same circumference as a balance and the waist should be at least 12 inches smaller than the chest for an overall classic type structure regardless of weight.
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 Год назад
Yep
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Yes, this is coming up in the following video
@johnkelley6278
@johnkelley6278 Год назад
Steve Reeves, Dave Draper, Sergio, Larry Scott are what bodybuilders are supposed to look like. Perfection at it's finest, not the big bellied Brama Bulls in today's Olympia. What a great channel this is !
@paulderyck2573
@paulderyck2573 Год назад
I would add Frank Zane to this list. Great V-taper & slim waist, much like Steve Reeves.
@johnkelley6278
@johnkelley6278 Год назад
@@paulderyck2573 Zane may be the best of all , can't believe I left the 3 time mr.olympia off the list !
@FACTS-od6gz
@FACTS-od6gz Год назад
People generally dont want to mention that big lats is most important for big wide physique,that broad your shoulders whatever size of clavicle you have.
@cautarepvp2079
@cautarepvp2079 4 месяца назад
That's why swimmers have huge backs, the V taper. Shoulders, wide clavicles, the length of the bones, add some muscles on that and you look amazing
@r.e.4640
@r.e.4640 Год назад
NOT even Bob Paris NOR Frank Zane, as good as they looked, STILL, CANNOT EVEN COMPARE to the GREATEST BODYBUILDER who ever lived. STEVE REEVES!!! Steve Reeves was truly ONE OF KIND, and was THE IDEAL definition, of HUMAN PERFECTION or at least the closest to it we will ever see, in human imperfection!💪🙂👍
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
He was the goal
@esausjudeannephew6317
@esausjudeannephew6317 Год назад
That is a True Possibility
@oldschool1107
@oldschool1107 Год назад
If you believe Steeve is better than Zane you're fooling yourself
@davegreene8588
@davegreene8588 Год назад
He was also, among the four handsomest male actors of, probably, all time, along with Clark Gable, Errol Flynn, and Victor Mature.
@Andrei.Christop
@Andrei.Christop Год назад
@@oldschool1107for real
@garrettchristensen8074
@garrettchristensen8074 Год назад
I remember an old article in muscle and fitness magazine by Bob Paris., where his take on symmetry was to have your chest be at least 10" bigger then the waist, & your neck, upper arms, & calves measured the same.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Based on Steve Reeves
@garrettchristensen8074
@garrettchristensen8074 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm Thought so after watching. I'm sure he was a student of his philosophy
@terrystrand
@terrystrand Год назад
Paris was a drug monkey on roids you must remember... so all his dimensions are invalid IMO.
@garrettchristensen8074
@garrettchristensen8074 Год назад
@@terrystrand Steve Reeves didn't do steroids? ? ? 😂😂😂 Really? ? Do some research
@terrystrand
@terrystrand Год назад
@@garrettchristensen8074 I've been researching steroids since before you were hatched. I've spent decades as an AAU bodybuilder / lifter / record holder, and author. If you weren't a dilletante you'd understand that Reeves retired after winning the 1950 NABBA Mr. Universe, 8 years BEFORE Ciba's Dianabol was invented in 1958 so he could not have been on gear. Earlier existing available testosterone was crap, and though tried by some, it failed to produce any bodybuilding champions.
@YesSirYesSir3bagsFULL
@YesSirYesSir3bagsFULL Год назад
Great work Carlos! You always put out the best content! A very rare breakdown of this analysis was much needed! Keep up the amazing work!
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
I'm glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching
@ABD5667
@ABD5667 Месяц назад
These are a good starting point although some people's aesthetic proportion equations differ slightly but similar. Additionally there are limb and torso lengths plus shoulder, hip and waist widths and also height to shoulder width.
@troy5674
@troy5674 Год назад
Thank you man never stop this
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Only when I'm dead
@kentborges5114
@kentborges5114 Год назад
HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE ! R.I.P !
@DelNegro10
@DelNegro10 Год назад
Thanks so much! Your Channel is the best of the very best. Jason Gallant and Joel Kellet are the most impressive natural bodybuilding alive from youtube. Why not interview Jason Gallant? Best regards from Brazil.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
I might, he has an awesome channel
@ProductionsFromBeyon
@ProductionsFromBeyon Год назад
I think an interesting idea for a video would be highlighting some of the films that features bronze and silver era bodybuilders. I’ve seen some old Edison Sandow shorts and Reeves and Park Hercules movies, but beyond that, would love to learn more.
@leepretorius4869
@leepretorius4869 Год назад
Finally! I think this is THE missing piece. Totally ignored and misunderstood. Thank you!
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Glad you liked it
@panagenesis2695
@panagenesis2695 Год назад
I think the proper term is "proportion", meaning ratios or one measurement in relation to others. Whereas "symmetry" would just mean a balance between the left and right sides.
@RoidfreeSenior
@RoidfreeSenior Год назад
Best natural ever
@alexc7857
@alexc7857 Год назад
Me with my little 6 inch wrists feels good about only having to hit 15" biceps to be perfect at 5'8
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 5 месяцев назад
i think its still possible to get atlest 16 inches and maybe 17.
@huss03
@huss03 4 месяца назад
"Symmetry" has become an overused term in the context of the assessment of an aesthetic physique. The correct term is "Proportion". Symmetry refers to the degree of matching between identical objects on either side of a "centreline of symmetry". As such, it should be applied to LEFT/RIGHT assessments. For example, if a bodybuilder has an injury such as a bicep tear or pec tear, there could be a radical compromise to the degree of LEFT/RIGHT symmetry. Or, a bodybuilder could have genetic anomalies with regards to LEFT/RIGHT symmetry. But if we are talking about the balance between the relative of size of different muscle groups distributed around the body, "Proportion" is the correct term.
@MuscularBoomer
@MuscularBoomer 2 месяца назад
Man this was good video and very helpful thanks! 7/29/2024
@josephperkins4857
@josephperkins4857 Год назад
finally what i have been looking for =)
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Glad you liked ot
@josephperkins4857
@josephperkins4857 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookwormthanks
@johngrantland680
@johngrantland680 Год назад
well done and thank you
@esausjudeannephew6317
@esausjudeannephew6317 Год назад
Back then they strove to look like gods... And they succeeded! Now they look like monsters.
@salguodrolyat2594
@salguodrolyat2594 Год назад
Or demons. Ashura as they are called in Hindu mythology.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
And they've succeeded too
@vegetasfitnesschannel446
@vegetasfitnesschannel446 Год назад
I like the fact that you highlight these are just guidelines and individual differences should be taken into account. I think the picture of Grimek highlights this well. I can relate to him because he definitely didn't have a V Taper, however he still looked good in my opinion. For stockier people I think that sort of bear mode physique typically works the best.
@lastsonofkrypton3918
@lastsonofkrypton3918 Год назад
The weight given of 295% for a 5'9" man (207lbs) doesn't match the chart (180lbs) and is beyond the max variation of 10lbs being 27lbs more.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
I guess Steve wasn't perfect either
@ajithsidhu7183
@ajithsidhu7183 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm thank you ,how do we adjust for long limbs
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
@@ajithsidhu7183 I guess you'll have to see how your proportions look like once you have put on enough muscular mass
@lastsonofkrypton3918
@lastsonofkrypton3918 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm Here is another symmetry standard that doesn't depend on height and weight but I've forgotten the source (T-Nation iirc ): Neck, arms and calves of equal circumference. Chest 18" larger than waist.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 5 месяцев назад
@@lastsonofkrypton3918 so its not about height? because I'm 5'9 and i plan to be 200lbs maximum then maintain
@retrobilly1719
@retrobilly1719 Год назад
Very interesting
@RudyTheInternetGod
@RudyTheInternetGod 3 месяца назад
The standards🙏🏾
@boogerie
@boogerie Год назад
Casey Butts used to have calculator using measurements of height wrist size ankle size and body fat percentage. I wonder if he based it on Willoughby
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
It's possible...Willoughby was the word on measurements during the Golden Era
@keelanenns4548
@keelanenns4548 Год назад
super useful
@luisdelgado7764
@luisdelgado7764 Год назад
Something not mentioned that I believe is important is the actual length of your limbs, for example Steeves Forearms seem to be almost twice the length of his upper arms.
@alokpradhan9087
@alokpradhan9087 Год назад
Thank
@ourclarioncall
@ourclarioncall 4 месяца назад
Bigger forearms, slightly bigger arms or slightly smaller upper legs , bigger traps and some visible abs and that’s close to perfect
@MsChicoro
@MsChicoro Год назад
Yes.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Thought you'd like this
@MsChicoro
@MsChicoro Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm 😘👍👏😁
@claudiavital8943
@claudiavital8943 Год назад
Not because a man have bigs muscles means are made symmetry his body,most people don't have that perfect físic simetría and aesthetic body of Steve Reeves..Even some people only see the big of the muscles,but they don't see that body is nothing proportional. Steve Reeves is the human being that have the most perfect físic that born in this world until now,plus he was very good looking all him.He was bless for this great beautiful físic.For me is the greatest one all the times.Thank you to share about Steve Reeves.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
You're welcome
@DanRKong
@DanRKong Год назад
👍
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Thanks for always commenting
@leepretorius4869
@leepretorius4869 Год назад
Here’s a question - how to calculate forearms?
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Steve didn't address this
@leepretorius4869
@leepretorius4869 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm I would say take upper arm and multiple it by 0.79
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
@@leepretorius4869 sounds about right
@sandul-di8se
@sandul-di8se 9 месяцев назад
💪
@colinvernooij1729
@colinvernooij1729 Год назад
Would you measure chest over the shoulders or under the armpits?
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 Год назад
I’m curious about this too. I’ve seen a picture online where a lady measure his chest around the shoulders
@miles6120
@miles6120 8 месяцев назад
Under the pits , all the way around like your waist. Measuring over shoulders would also include your shoulder width lol
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 8 месяцев назад
i find it impossible for me to have a 49.5 inch chest as a 5'7 man, but that is my shoulder circumference which includes the chest @@miles6120
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 3 месяца назад
@@miles6120and your chest….
@FormlessJKD17
@FormlessJKD17 Год назад
What's the Golden era bookworm physique lmao
@terrystrand
@terrystrand Год назад
Been a rabid bodybuilding / lifting competitor, trainer, author for a whole lifetime As such I'd remark that your site is superb. But to take the measurements to 3 digits is going nowhere. It serves no purpose, and worse, tries to shoehorn the 'ideal physique' into a tight box that bears little relation to our sport. However the numbers do seem about correct. 'Symmetry' is really the wrong term. As a biologist you will know that symmetry refers to left or right symmetry... front or back symmetry. What people really are talking about is proportion which is simple. It is just the proper size of one muscle group to another. For example the neck. the biceps and the calves should all be the same size 16 inches or 17 in. JCG said that many years ago I hope that clears up symmetry versus proportion! Finally, JCG suggested also that the waist and thigh should be about the same... which in his case was 27 inches.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Thanks, I'm quoting Reeves
@westoncroye643
@westoncroye643 Год назад
Also don't forget that these guys are NO WHERE NEAR as lean as the bodybuilders or standards today. Hence why they could carry way more mass than most naturals bb today. If anything I think they look far better than any natural bodybuilder today because most of them get way too lean and become skin and bones with some muscle definition.
@Mokaakashiya24
@Mokaakashiya24 Год назад
They were probably somewhere between 13-16%
@westoncroye643
@westoncroye643 Год назад
@@Mokaakashiya24 Majority probably were. The best of them we’re probably 10-12% like Steve Reeves in his Mr. America win. And then you have Vince who was shredded at around 8-9%.
@jimmy5634
@jimmy5634 Год назад
Dude had no traps though.
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 Год назад
Purposely
@GaryYoung-eq1ph
@GaryYoung-eq1ph 6 дней назад
Bigger traps( he said), smaller looks the shoulders
@juanrodriguez5404
@juanrodriguez5404 Год назад
Man those are hard measurements.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Not impossible to achieve though
@juanrodriguez5404
@juanrodriguez5404 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm yeah you are right.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
@@juanrodriguez5404 just requires persistence, and consistent effort. Easy to say, very hard to do
@ClassicPhysique27
@ClassicPhysique27 Год назад
@@GoldenEraBookworm Measure the chest under the armpits or around the shoulder and chest circumference?
@AA-nx8ki
@AA-nx8ki Год назад
I bench 500 pounds for 50 reps and I'm only 176 pounds myself.
@GoldenEraBookworm
@GoldenEraBookworm Год назад
Congratulations
@Tttxxxj
@Tttxxxj 11 месяцев назад
Dumb question, but by knee size, do you mean around the knee area (circumference including the bend in the knee), or just the actual knee cap size? 😂
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