The state of the Chiefs’ WR room and Bolton’s value with Seth Keysor

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@hbtCHIEFS 3 дня назад

Sup legends! Let me know your thoughts on this convo and anything that stood out to you! Also, don't forget to check out Seth's Substack bit.ly/sethreallyhatesmoney and snag some HBTC coffee while you're at it: coffee.hbtchiefs.com

@Infinityflow0 3 дня назад

Great video Cole. I saw some reports about juju being a cut candidate. What do you think about bringing him back? He could be that intermediate receiver Seth wanted that allows brown to play more outside.

@user-ky7dk5gq3p 3 дня назад

Man I'm glad that you're doing good 💪🏿🫡 GWs

@user-ky7dk5gq3p 3 дня назад

I think KT not going to make the roster cause last year he was hurting and dropping passes sky Moore I think him and Ross they got something to prove I think they going to show out 💪🏿🫡

@preachermanko 3 дня назад

@@hbtCHIEFS First Nick Bolton has lead the team in tackles last 2-3 years. Can you hear Bolton's name being mentioned in every game. I think your friend's hot take was gaslighting lol but that just my opinion.

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 дня назад

Remigio was blowing up in preseason games last year, so not only were the pads on, it was in-game. That’s why people were excited about him last season, it wasn’t just a couple acrobatic training camp catches.

@toowiseforyou 3 дня назад

Agreed.

@hbtCHIEFS 3 дня назад

Yeah, I had a couple of thoughts about that, but we were running out of time

@jack-di5hz 3 дня назад

This collab is everything we want. I love HBTC for casual/frequent Chiefs news (as we want) and Seth's in-depth analytical perspective. Absolutely perfect combination of breadth and depth of off-season content.

@jacoblambertson8507 2 дня назад

Was better than I thought it would be. Hopefully he is Coles go to for camp breakdowns

@catherinelee3298 3 дня назад

We keep Bolton. He is amazing. 🏈

@ryanwhite9437 2 дня назад

But is he really "amazing"?? That's the whole point. And don't get me wrong -- I love me some nick Bolton!!! But he needs to be on like a 12ish million/year kind of deal. Some people talk about him like he's one of the handful of best LBs in the league, which would put him closer to $20mil/year.. and he simply is NOT that kind of player.

@fortniteburger8747 3 дня назад

Nah sky is hitting the practice squad

@PukaBear669 3 дня назад

@Yenerator 3 дня назад

He needs it

@1khuddson 3 дня назад

Sky to the practice squad sounds like a great idea

@user-bu5lz1qi5c 3 дня назад

agreed

@dylann3174 3 дня назад

@@1khuddson are yall dumb? he would get snatched up right away. he wouldn't clear waivers.

@Just_A_lil_Gizmo 3 дня назад

Man i just want everyone to stay out of trouble for the rest of the offseason

@hbtCHIEFS 3 дня назад

I like that

@Riders241 23 часа назад

Rest of the season

@dreisland6115 3 дня назад

Congratulations on your knee hope for a recovery

@timnorton3336 3 дня назад

In no way does Skyy have the ability to replace Rice! We just need the commissioner to make a decision on how many games he is suspending Rice for

@margcan 2 дня назад

Yeah, fine him and then set out a couple games in let's go.He's 23 years old.He made a mistake his punishment's gonna be through the law.Doesn't need to be through football that much?Yes lesson needs to be learned but I think two games should do it

@Treday2day 3 дня назад

Nick Bolton has been the best Linebacker in the Mahomes era. We suffered thru 4 brutal seasons of Anthony Hitchens as middle linebacker. Bolton has been super solid every single year. He makes correct reads, he’s super intelligent, great Insticts, he tackles everything, he has a nose for the ball and he plays an important role as a leader on Spags’ defense. With that being said he does have his limitations and weaknesses. He’s a true mike linebacker. Drue Tranquill, who plays outside backer, probably market corrected Nick Bolton. For context, last year was a contract year for Tranquill after the Chiefs signed him to a remarkably cheap contract for a player of his ilk. I hear Seth’s reasoning. But to sum it up, Tranquill is closer to Bolton than we think. But Bolton will get paid 2-3 times as much as Tranquill. $14M a year would be perfect. Keep Bolton !

@toowiseforyou 3 дня назад

Spot on!

@iml1nn0 3 дня назад

I also think Tranquill could have gotten more money elsewhere but he wanted to stay on the chiefs and keep winning. After being on the chargers for years who can blame him. We’ll have to wait and see what Bolton values more, money or rings

@Treday2day 3 дня назад

@@iml1nn0 I was surprised Tranquill initially signed for just $3M. And his new contract is a bargain as well

@ryanwhite9437 2 дня назад

Yeesh... I say $12M. I think the chiefs could swallow 14, but that's assuredly going to mean we can keep somebody else

@Treday2day 2 дня назад

@@ryanwhite9437 it’ll all work out nicely the next 12 months. ReSign Bolton and Creed to long term deals $12-$15M APY apiece. 1 year Omenihu. Tag and trade Trey Smith before the 2025 draft. Cut Thuney or do a heavy restructure

@andre1987eph 3 дня назад

I haven't seen anything from Skyy

@derekbrown3297 3 дня назад

We beat the eagle in the sb because of Bolton and Pacheco just sayin fumble recovery for a td and he had another they took away !

@BoondockGore 3 дня назад

Day #11 without Chief's incident

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

@californiachief27x 3 дня назад

😂😂😂

@jamesmartel505 3 дня назад

Lamar Hunt : you guys see what I did with buggs. Keep plying toney. I wish a MF would !

@danirocket21611 3 дня назад

Bolton is one of my faves! I'd love to see him back! 🎉Congrats on successful knee surgery! 👏 You must be so relieved. Don't worry about content. We want you to rest. Heal up and let Dani take care of you and chillax

@DemonAngels7 3 дня назад

I would love to team to bring back Bolton to just Pair him up with Drew again

@hbtCHIEFS 3 дня назад

Hopefully, they can make it happen

@DemonAngels7 3 дня назад

@@hbtCHIEFS hopefully they do it all comes down to keeping the dynasty alive and to keep it going cause we already know how this goes weather other fan bases love us or hate us. This is our time to shine as a fan base along with the team the quarterback, and everybody else involved.

@DwainWilsonJr 2 дня назад

@@DemonAngels7 We Got This Baby, Come On.. let's make HISTORY!!! 💪 ❤️💛❤️💛

@jaykelsey61 3 дня назад

Hit stick Nick is the man

@1khuddson 3 дня назад

Lmfaoo love this name for him ahaha

@1khuddson 3 дня назад

But naw nick Bolton that guy fr

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

That's a move in 2005 madden

@csr2120 3 дня назад

If Bolton has a decent year this season, I think he'll be gone in 2025. Linebackers probably need to get their bag asap more than other positions on defense. They are almost like the running backs of the defense in today's NFL.

@Nunya-fe8sc 3 дня назад

He don’t hit hard but I hear ya

@AyoRaa 3 дня назад

It would seem amazing to see Kadarius Toney make a comeback

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

Hope you recover soon!❤

@calebtapp7790 3 дня назад

Seth’s seems amazing! Also huge nick Bolton fan

@user-bu5lz1qi5c 3 дня назад

don’t really want skyy to make 53 man roster though

@mariatrainor6197 3 дня назад

Hope your knee feels better GO CHIEFS ALWAYS ❤❤❤

@TheRealcdawg22 3 дня назад

Nick Bolton is a difference maker. They should not have let Willie Gay go either. Kadarius Toney doesn't have his heart in this. I don't think that they should spend a roster spot on him.

@DaveReeks 3 дня назад

That Seth guy knows his stuff. Would be interested in hearing more interviews with him. Love the channel Cole. Keeps me in the loop here in Australia!

@ryanwhite9437 2 дня назад

Seth is great!!! His sub stack is worth every bit of his $12/year he charges to subscribe.. He is also on the Only Weird Games show, part of KCSN (Kansas City sports Network) it's here on RU-vid, and they've got a TON of good shows! Check em out... My only thing id warn you of, Seth's co-hosts on that Only Weird Games show can get kind of annoying 🫤 just my opinion tho.

@OldNavy-z9h 3 дня назад

Bolton is worth it. I say that as a partisan Mizzou fan, but think back to the pick 6 TD in the Super Bowl, plus the 2nd one that got called back. Plus he has Spag's approval, which is good enough for me!

@robertvaness7155 3 дня назад

Good luck with PT Cole. All will be good!

@Aliciambaehr 2 дня назад

"When you're fighting for your life, you should be fighting for your life.... not NOT fighting for your life." Oh man, I just have a hard time letting go of KT, but he's totally right 😭Love having Seth on here! Keep him coming!

@everythingweather 3 дня назад

No shot Skyy replaces Rice.

@ALANWAYNEOMG 3 дня назад

Speedy recovery brutha 🙏🏽🙏🏽🤞🏾

@superdeviljuice1390 3 дня назад

Hope you feel better Cole

@5280ize 3 дня назад

Love this! Great stuff! This guy knows his stuff and can talk about it with stats and examples of plays to reinforce his point. Can't wait to see you two collab during the season. HBTC!

@catherinelee3298 3 дня назад

Get well, Cole❤

@Shawn-ey7qg 3 дня назад

Love the show, hate the Nick Bolton Slander. "Good not great?" Come on now, this is a guy who had 180 tackles in his last full season (2nd in the NFL). That's elite production. He's a football player, not a track guy. Production is elite. Intelligence is elite. You think it's easy to get 180 tackles in the NFL? Maybe try getting one some time LOL. And shows up when the lights are brightest, could have been Superbowl MVP already arguably.

@katfaitour9009 3 дня назад

Love Seth! And his Substack is gold, y'all.

@cloudcitydigital 3 дня назад

Two of the best in the game right now

@desmond7wampler912 3 дня назад

Nicky B is one of our best players show's up in big moments most of the time

@boki424 2 дня назад

Been watching some playoff highlights of other teams, and some of their tackling is horrendous. Bolton is a tackling machine, I wouldn't mind if the Chiefs slightly overpaid him.

@keleynal4424 3 дня назад

It’s cool, Cole. Take your time and get back to 100% on your own time.

@00Cuth 3 дня назад

Spags Loves Bolton... Keep in mind, Bolton was still in the room when he was injured.

@endlessrage4062 День назад

Bolton is an integral part of the team, he motivates and leads by example. There aren’t many on the field that runs as much as him, he always involved in tackles and is an intelligent player.

@aragorn7233 3 дня назад

Great session with Seth. I have been a fan of his for many years. His insights into the team and players always gives me another perspective on things.

@tlwatts88 3 дня назад

How Soon They Forget Super Bowl Big Time Plays! Vs. Philadelphia?? Just Stop It Already

@user-ky7dk5gq3p 3 дня назад

Man Xavier going to show people what he's about he's going to stand on business 💪🏿🫡

@jenniferaceste8823 3 дня назад

@ethanjames7857 3 дня назад

I don't understand the continued faith in Skyy. Granted we have not seen him targeted over and over again but idk. I think he just has a lower physical and athletic ceiling. I think I'd genuinely go Toney cause the only thing stopping him is his mental game. If he gets his head together like the first season with us I truly believe they thought he would be the one for a reason. I think he easily has the skill for it. Just game one last year really rocked him

@DwainWilsonJr 2 дня назад

He's really skilled, bt he doesn't have the heart and commitment and not as engaging as Skyy Moore at the moment.. bt, who knows, he's still got time to break out

@fjeinca 3 дня назад

Not one to avoid offering opinions, I have full respect for coaches who’re in there with guys all day daily (e.g., Dave Merritt in the DB room). No one’s paying me for my 2 cents, tho I want to see the O more unified (alert, quick) on the hike. Players: every one in camp is proven capable; it’s more about how much they put into Big Red’s training pgm. and being on point for all new rules.

@chrisjohnson4808 3 дня назад

Look at a full year of healthy Nick Bolton he was the 2nd best player on the defense

@thenoseknows9391 3 дня назад

Better than Sneed and Chris Jones??🥺

@jerrygheen6088 3 дня назад

I think Bolton does a ton of unnoticed things for the defense. I hope they keep him, we’ve got some Lb talent behind him though. I think it’s time to give up the sky Moore experiment. Remigio does the same stuff and is more explosive

@bobwebberkc 3 дня назад

Rehab the knee Cole and how can you not just love Seth.

@csr2120 3 дня назад

Seth Keysor is playing Moneyball. It would be interesting to know what the Chiefs analytics team thinks about his analysis.

@PatrickGriggs-vo3dj 3 дня назад

Bottom line, we can only carry 6 WRs. Trying to 3-Peat, can’t stash a young or underachieving guy when we could use that other spot for another D men, linemen, etc. Can’t be afraid to cut Toney, Skyy, Mecole, J. Ross, or Nico. Brown, Worthy, and Watson are locks to make roster. Rice will probably be suspended for a time. Find 6 that work while Rice out. Possible 1 or so guys could be on PS, but no worries if they get snatched up. So pumped for this season!

@Yenerator 3 дня назад

Even if Rice got suspended for Half the season he would still drop less passes than Sky 😏

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

What

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

That makes no sense

@toowiseforyou 3 дня назад

@@flatlandclips He should keep his day job, as he is not good at fortune telling.

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

I think he worded it wrong

@burning_trash 3 дня назад

If mahomes missed half the season would he get less sacks then wentz? Kinda obvious

@ryanwhite9437 2 дня назад

Seth is the freaking man.

@bevinboulder5039 3 дня назад

And you made it down the steps into your studio? Congrats and best wishes for quick healing.

@barbarabeagley6650 3 дня назад

I got my Noah Gray jersey today! Thanks Cole! Now I'm trying to find a frame for it I can afford.

@5280ize 3 дня назад

Also... shout out to who edited this video. Nice! Really enhanced the conversation!

@scottTGMO 3 дня назад

Just a thought, I think Bolton replacement is on the roster already. It is obvious Beach is about Drafting replacements or finding UDFA’s that can be replacements for current talent. Jones, Chenal, Christianson, Cockrane etc. That is a great approach in my opinion. In about 3 years he needs to find the guy that has the talent to replace Pat and

@TheAirBedDude 3 дня назад

Good luck with your knee. I hope that it heals soon. I really enjoy your show. GO CHIEFS

@user-bu5lz1qi5c 3 дня назад

love nick bolton i hope we resign him next year

@user-ky7dk5gq3p 3 дня назад

I think KT not going to make it unless he prove himself in camp that he still got the skill set and still have hands 🫡💪🏿

@5280ize 3 дня назад

You may have to make this a completely different channel and show of an extension to HBTC. GREAT CONTENT. The host is vested and trusted and the co-host is definitely bringing som ething to the table.

@keithbrewer4555 3 дня назад

Top 3 most underrated players on the team 1.nick Bolton 2.noah gray 3.mike Danna Is this a good list?

@DwainWilsonJr 2 дня назад

I think you should replace em for the UDFA's... and the draftees... cause we ain't heard SHXT on Jacobs, Hicks, Hadden, and Battle

@jeremymitchell5998 День назад

Man after last yr having so many wr you don't know who to cut is a GREAT problem to have

@harrymills2770 3 дня назад

2009/2010 on Arrowhead Pride. Yup. Very smart, thorough and disciplined. Explains how the big lug married above his station. Bolton could have decent value in FA to a team that's talented, but hasn't gelled or wants to gel ASAP. I think if he tests the waters, he will be able to find a team willing to pay him more than KC will be able to afford. OTOH, he may be worth more to KC than other teams, because of the way the Chiefs are built and the way Spagnuolo schemes it up. His position is more about leadership and decision-making. Willie Gay was a lot quicker and faster, but Willie might take a whole extra half second or second to realize where he should be running, and he may've been going the wrong way during that beat of time. Willie might be able to run with a TE better than Nick, but Nick got the green dot as a rookie. Drue Tranquill instantly earned the "backup green dot." Willie Gay almost never took on that role, and he struggled when he tried. Anyway, much may depend on what KC thinks it can do in the '25 draft. Dorsey had bad luck with LBs. Veach has enjoyed more success. He's also used higher draft picks on LB than Dorsey did, before him.

@HelthHackr 3 дня назад

Bolton is a beast!

@buddy8o8 3 дня назад

Love the chief in the north ! Seth is always a good listen

@jaycruz5606 3 дня назад

I am glad you took care of your knee so you can be ready for training camp buddy! Keep up the great work. The other “guys” are getting to weird. You are to the point and with the right information always! Thanks again!

@mr.niceguy1498 3 дня назад

Yeah, in an alternate universe where he’s actually good.

@desmond7wampler912 3 дня назад

Pop pocheco,Trent McDuffie ,Charles omenihu are a few examples

@DexxterThatGuyy2442 Час назад

❤❤❤❤❤❤ Take As Much Time As You Need

@aragorn7233 3 дня назад

I would have thought that Toney could pick up the slack from Rice being out but I appreciate Seth's conments about him not maturing. It's unfortunate but such is life. Hopefully, that is not the long term case with Rice. I trust that Andy will make the correct assessment on his playbook focus to put each player in the best role. 😊

@chief4life45 3 дня назад

Oh snap Cole! Get better soon. What did you have done?

@chiefsbigiron 11 часов назад

Nick Bolton is a top 5 mlb in the league right now

@williamallen7984 3 дня назад

I think Sky has already proven he cant

@jasonlanning5978 2 дня назад

I’ve always had high hopes for Skyy. But he has a very long way to go before that happens. Get well quickly and safely🙏🏻

@dreisland6115 3 дня назад

Not gonna lie cole I almost didn’t click on the video because of the thumb nail🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣

@flatlandclips 3 дня назад

Why?

@dreisland6115 3 дня назад

@@flatlandclips cause cole actually looks at states n production also what a player brings to the team same as me and skyy Moore hasn’t done nothing tbh I’ll rather have nikko go out n make a name for himself and see what he can do plus all training camp n practice they been saying he’s been outstanding in the offense and I thought cole was saying we should have skyy replace rice until he comes back depending on what the league chooses as his punishment if he gets one but then I listened to what Cole said so I was like ok nvm but still nikko or hardmen over skyy at least I know hardmen can break off every now n then and get open with his speed

@jameshopkins6853 3 дня назад

Please no Sky! Please. There's some disconnect that know one can figure out, and never will. Move on, it's a space wasted otherwise for yet another year. This is 3 peat year, can't afford to doing the same thing and expecting different results.

@jeremymitchell5998 День назад

Can't WAIT FOR SEASON START 👇

@popejoeii 3 дня назад

MNCheifsFan!

@desmond7wampler912 3 дня назад

All we have to do is shoot worthy deep and let Trav and Hollywood work the middle until Rice gets back week 7 or 8 the chiefs have been getting the best of the NFL with great players coming in a little late in the season and adding wrinkles that crush the competition

@Rambochek_tactical 2 дня назад

Yoooooo been missing seth on rgr. #chiefofthenorth!

@andrewlovvorn7283 3 дня назад

If Willie Gay was still with the Chiefs Nick Bolton would be a little more expendable

@quintonlovett 3 дня назад

Thanks Cole and thanks Seth 😃

@obedseli 3 дня назад

Nikko or skyy moore is the real question

@lukehermansky871 3 дня назад

i said and ima keep saying it BREAKOUT SEASON FOR KT watch.

@EveryTribeCoffee 3 дня назад

Maybe you can do a laying down podcast episode, lol.

@sampeak1605 День назад

Skyy is a good wide receiver, but something is affecting him mentally in my opinion. I believe he still has plenty untapped potential despite his performance last season.

@chief4life45 3 дня назад

You have to remember, Tranquill is older than Bolton. Upside for Bolton feels better. Also, there is always a young upcoming guy, we plan for that.

@BillNye-xm9sd 3 дня назад

Cut KT, Sky needs to do something in preseason.

@itschaos1243 3 дня назад

Nikko remigio over skyy and toney

@user-ky7dk5gq3p 3 дня назад

Do y'all think Bolton will play with us next year

@hbtCHIEFS 3 дня назад

I’m sure he’d love to stay if they can make it happen contractually

@joshyoumans9037 3 дня назад

You have to understand that the game isn't just played 17 times per year. What about leadership, scouting, adjustments on the fly, setting the defense, work ethic, etc. I think it's best to look at all those things instead of just one stat. I'm not sure if Bolton is worth it but I'd like a fair argument on the topic

@TJKgoclones 21 час назад

I’d say keep Bolton. I love him

@isaacstroupe3199 3 дня назад

I have nothing to back this up but I still think Sky can be a productive part of the WR room

@mizzoumade7508 2 дня назад

i still hope justin ross gets a shot. would love a big bodied wr on the outside to have a role in the offense

@wizlb 3 дня назад

I wrote about today!!!! during this Chiefs Super Bowl run, are they letting Hall of Fame caliber players leave the team? It’s not always about money

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 дня назад

How are you gonna pay 5 Hall of Fame guys, plus another 3-4 Pro Bowl guys? Sometimes it IS about money..

@superchief4940 2 дня назад

Seth, how are you going to talk about Bolton's performance last year without mentioning the fact he was max 75% health and played with a cast on his arm? That is VERY poor analysis. He missed a couple of interceptions because of that cast in the playoffs. The year before, he arguably could have had Super bowl MVP if it wasn't for the poor call. The year before is a better evaluation for him.

@Morrison-yi7mq 2 дня назад

I would like you to break down the new kick off rules.

@gelfredge 3 дня назад

Dump Skyy and Toney, work in Nikko and bring Michael Thomas in for a visit to check out if he's got one more season in a push for a Ring.

@dylann3174 3 дня назад

SETH! what a guy man! LFG!

@msnknight6285 3 дня назад

Love Hardman coming back, bring back Donovan Smith, starting a rook or terrible 2nd year at LT is RIP for Mahomes

@stevekim3217 3 дня назад

Skyy has shown nothing to the Chiefs. Remember when he dropped a couple of kick off returns ? Toney was crucified dropping some passes. Toney has had more explosive plays by far.