Funny how the whole code was hosted on github, which Microsoft also owns. My guy stole their whole game and distributed it for free at their own lawn, what a chad.
The fact that Notch isn't working on Minecraft anymore meaning we can't get Quake 3 Arena matches between ingenious developers and Markuss is a real shame. Now they have to "settle" in "court" and set "precedents" and "new laws". That's boring.
Javascript is named like this simply because they wanted people to associate it with java, hoping that make adopting it easier and more popular, but they are two totally different languages
You only _just_ realised?! It's one of the most painful things when trying to teach a newcomer about coding, when they shorten "JavaScript" to "Java" instead of "JS" and you end up getting/giving _completely_ the wrong information!
i love eaglercraft, i introduced my whole technical graphics class to eagler since our pcs are so blocked in school we cant even open youtube. anyways now everyone is failing but we have a 3 month old world hosted on my pc that has every achievement complete lel
@@dialga236 it's not an executable, it's a web page file that runs locally. Did you even watch the video at least? Guy literally shows it in it. Know what you talk about next time before you talk about it. So yes, it can and will.
Happened to me on my 2010 account.. I had a legacy one that I never converted to email and then converted to Microsoft and then Microsoft disabled my account for “security reasons” (no explanation from support after many tries).. can’t play a game I bought in Alpha
Happened to my sister too, she had to buy a new account full price and microsoft support didn't even care to help even though we called and chatted with them for weeks to get the account back! I felt more betrayed than her by microsoft for this absolute shitmove but also it doesn't feel 'wrong' anymore to pirate microsoft software since they could decide to take away my license any day, why buy one in the first place?
I remember this one time I was playing survival Eaglercraft on my chromebook in my study hall with the sound off and a creeper snuck up behind me and I jumped in my seat and the entire class looked at me. Good times.
@@IVEdge I'm not a dev who is super familiar with the java environment but tbh I'd put it on the JVM as opposed to Mojang persay. Not to say they couldn't be doing more, with how much money and talent they have, but working with the JVM is a goddamn nightmare sometimes. The whole system for java is equal parts really cool and really awful, lol. Like... that garbage handler man, its like trying to give instructions to a particularly clever dog from the other side of your house via a tin can telephone.
open source is really amazing sometimes, it is impossible to kill open source projects, because someone will always have it uploaded on the internet no matter how many times they dmca someone.
they likely don't want to sue him over it because while his mod might aid in facilitating piracy, eaglercraft itself doesn't contain actual minecraft assets, and requires an actual copy of the game to get set up without relying on outside sources. they don't want another Lindows situation where a court decides eaglercraft is AOK and suddenly the DMCA takedowns for the mod itself can no longer be sent out
The fact Mojang didn't accept the offer to use it in an official capacity is unsurprising but disappointing. Making it so that people who otherwise couldn't are able to play the game is honestly great, not to mention the amazing absurdity of such a complex game managing to run on JavaScript, but unfortunately the likelihood of Mojang being able to play ball even if they wanted to is basically zero since they're owned by Microsoft.
The works of amateurs tends to outshine that of professionals sometimes, mojang remade minecraft in C+ and could not achieve the similarity to the original game, while it is performant, there are many discrepancies, this one person, a passionate lover for his art, achieves this goal not for money or praise, but to truly chase a quest of excellence, and that is a thing of beauty, truely.
Well, Microsoft would eliminate Java Minecraft if there wasn't so many players, bedrock is their income source from Minecraft. Even if it would allow for more people to play, it is basically a MCJE fork, so they wouldn't allow that.
The whole concept of running Minecraft on a web browser really takes the game back to its roots. I used to sit in a college computer lab playing Minecraft during lectures as well back around 2011/2012 or so.
This dude actually rewrote all these dependencies from scratch just for Minecraft… Even if the game is gone, he still made massive contributions to the open source community through that alone. And the fact that he did that in such a short timeframe is mind boggling. Microsoft could’ve acquired the project for dirt cheap compared to the cost of developing it in house and potentially missing out on millions in new revenue. I guess they just want to protect their low end device revenue from bedrock micro transactions.
Honestly EaglerCraft dev is a legend for making something like this and it's a sad world we're living in where Microsoft can effectively bully every website into deleting his account.
in the late 90s, Microsoft started a pretty strong effort to force every website to use the Internet Explorer API for development. So they are used to being shitty humans.
@@Dong_Harvey that's how every big market player plays, it's not that microsoft personally are a special kind of evil. every big corp becomes that to a (not so much) varying degree
@@OrangeYTT it isn't valid though, fair use exists which allows use opf movie clips in video reviews, using game footage in a programming history is A okay lol
Unfortunately RU-vid prefers to stay on the side of the big multi-trillion dollar corporation rather than the RU-vidr, so will probably just take the video down anyway
The prime goal of a company the size of Microsoft is to protect their profit and hegemony. Making his life hell is just goal-oriented behavior, since he dared to develop a version of their game that might in some conceivable way endanger their profits. All the developers must know what Microsoft is ready to do if they dare to tread in their territory.
Just tried it out, crazy how it loads way faster from a remote server than modern minecraft does when run locally Definitely one of the better demo's of what modern browsers are capable of!
Eaglercraft was my entire childhood, I had a massive server when I was in middle school and the lore was insane. The teachers tried to block it so we added the code into our computers files by clicking some sketchy download links and putting it all into thumb drives that we passed around school. It got kind of crazy when the principal started interviewing kids trying to figure out who was distributing the thumb drives and threatening to get them suspended, but I’m proud to say none of us cracked and we played Eaglercraft the entire year.
@@thepwrtank18 while that's true, it's because they''re legally bound. However the fact they did not sue the guy makes me think, they may not be nearly as worried as microsoft is.
Thank you for this clarification. That explains why people can't get a hold of anybody responsible for legal at Mojang itself. If you're a Mojang lawyer prove me wrong, since your company has a lot to answer for.
@@negativespace7243 they can get it taken down in countries where the laws don’t protect him, but American law should protect him from it getting taken down here. Theoretically, if anyone gave a damn about the Constitution.
It didn’t really look like a new language it kinda just looked like a minor extension to English But like the other guy said, if you wanna check out indie languages just Google conlang, there’s tons, not too uncommon for unique alphabets too
12:45 The deal with the DMCA is that unless you are the author of the infringing work, you cannot be sued for distributing it unless you fail to comply with the DMCA takedown request. So by complying with the DMCA takedown request, you shield yourself from liability (unless you were the one who actually made the infringing work). Copyright law does not care if you make money from an infringing work or not. However, Lax could certainly have been sued. Copyright law is absolutely no joke.
People seem to forget that it doesn't actually have any of Minecraft's code in it, they would be facing a steep uphill legal battle that would also have a chilling effect on all modding.
@@haxaliciousNo, you dont need to have the same code because of the fourth fair use factor prong. That’s the one this triggers so if this went to court the court would rule for mojang
Considering Minecraft is already available on Chromebooks in the form of Bedrock edition, and Mojang only keep Java edition in existence because people would get very angry if they didn't, they're not gonna have any motivation to have a web version of Java.
The best thing about this is that people even now play this old version of Minecraft, which is in my opinion, very much better than what we have right now, especially for new players
If eagler craft let you log in with your Minecraft account instead of being pirated Minecraft, it would be allowed and would still be helpful for a lot of kids at school
Mojang/Microsoft: "Stealing is only OK when *WE* do it!" Refering to how they straight up deleted accounts that people had paid for, if they didn't migrate their accounts. Absolutely unacceptable, and that alone justifies any and all kinds of stealing/theft from mojang/microsoft. Nothing is more important than giving people a taste of their own medicine.
??? There was no way an active Minecraft player would not have known what was going. They gave a lot of time. They spammed with emails as a warning when it was close, and even gave people plenty of time after the date to do it. Every single person who bought the game and even looked at their own email would know what was going on even if they wasn't active in the game. No person aware of what was going on would lose their accounts due to how it was handled. I'm not some Minecraft fangirl. I know they fucked up plenty especially with mob votes/ making promises they did not deliver on but how they handled the accounts wasn't one of their mistakes.
Wha- how????? Microsoft gave you guys a year to migrate to Microsoft account and still got screwed over somehow by not understanding the announcement?.
@@rainbowdash3419 people are not terminally online all the time. Some people may have bought a minecraft account on an email that may no longer exist and be trapped out of it. RU-vid to this day still allows people to migrate RU-vid accounts to Google accounts. If I paid for a game, I should be able to OWN the game FOREVER, not for it to be taken away from me.
Agreed, it depends on how and why use infringe on copyright and/or pirate games, I say if you bought the game once/for one platform it should be your right to pirate it for any other platforms, also if a game is not available where you live you should be able to pirate them (for example some eroge not available where you live, like Koikatsu Sunshine)
the beauty of open source, companies like microsoft and/or mojang can try so hard to get rid of things like eaglercraft, and yet, someone's gonna have the full thing saved, and can upload it and it just wont die
You didn’t mention how in 2024, WebAssembly works by basically running the compiled Java code directly without the need for JavaScript (except for initalization and graphics output). So theoretically you could reimplement the Minecraft server code in WebAssembly which would allow newer versions to be played (theoretically) and would speed up the server code a lot. Only thing is that the graphics, audio and input control (the client side of minecraft) would have to be reimplemented, or ran in another Java VM.
People have been striked for instructing people how to break ToS with other applications. Thank RU-vid's convoluted ToS that bends it's knee to any form of legal threat. Second half of the video proves that point.
i think i still have this on my computer in studio broadcast, it was super relaxing and i noticed that when i played it was the only trimester i got all A's in school...
Mojang buying Eaglercraft actually doesn't sound like a bad idea, in my opinion. Of course, they are gonna have to change some stuff in the source code, but having Minecraft Java run on the website could make it more accessible to people on Chromebooks or people who aren't bothered to download the whole game
If you were a big company, why would you want to sell a version of the game that’s heavily outdated and is incredibly compressed? It’s a technically impressive product but Mojang’s audience doesn’t care about things being impressive, they care about spectacle. The audience this would appeal to is students whose admins blocked Minecraft because kids weren’t working or people running on shitboxes. And I assume the moment they would make it paid, these people would flee, because one of the main appeals is the “free Minecraft” bit
@@polkarfieldWith proper backing it probably wouldn't be outdated for long Mojang's audience would surely care as kids wanting to play in class is a never ending market
@@emred4653 I'm gonna get slapped with the nerd emoji for saying this, but the Minecraft devs aren't as lazy as you might think. They have to make sure that each update would be received well, and they also have Bedrock edition to worry about. Java and Bedrock are in two separate programming languages and engines, so they have to make sure what's in Java translates well to Bedrock. They could probably port Eaglercraft well, since Eaglercraft's source code is accessible to anyone, but it could pose a risk to copyright as people can just download the jar through inspect element or just use a GitHub repository that's been forked from the original project. So it's not that the devs are lazy, it's just that mojang is a business, not a bunch of modders adding whatever they want to the game and not caring about how the public sees it
Mojang is clearly abusing the copyright system here. While the software provided does allow for piracy, it does not distribute the minecraft source code. I salute the developer of this project for making the project open-source and thus making mojang unable to ever take it down, and I salute Notch for making Minecraft in java and source-available.
To be fair, Minecraft's code is obfuscated so it probably wasn't meant to be source-available, and bindings to de-obfuscate it were only released well into the Microsoft era....
You seem to misunderstand what the copyright system currently protects. It no longer protects the individual developer, that time is in the distant past. Now its main objective is to protect the hegemony of corporations over their "intellectual property" i.e. anything that might have sth to do with them in any way. The developer might have poured thousands of hours into their work, upgraded the code to the point of it being almost fully their own, and their project may benefit society greatly, but the copyright law doesn't care. The rascal dared to tread a little too far in the territory of Microsoft by making a version of their game and distributing it, basically creating a semi-possible-competitor to Minecraft, and that's a big no-no since Microsoft holds the rights to "Minecraft" (of course they have the rights to Minecraft, why would the developers and artists who made the game or the overall playerbase that has made numerous additions to the game through suggestions, mods, etc have the rights to it, you silly goose?). I commend the developer for daring to tread that far. But I doubt that he will survive the storm that Microsoft is ready to unleash upon him for his crime of heroism.
I remember playing this in Middle School with three of my friends. We would build a base together and then go attack people. It was a lot of fun, but sadly I'm no longer friends with these people.
I wouldn't say that lax not taking any money is making any difference. He's still taking users away from Mojang products (theoretically of course, this doesn't include things Minecraft couldn't previously run on) and even more so if the project is free to use
Piracy taking away paying customers is a myth created by publishing firms. Studies show that most people who pirate only do so because they literally wouldn't/couldn't buy it in the first place making it wrong to count them as lost sales, in addition to this the extra word of mouth that is created by pirates if the product is actually good increases the sales it would've gotten otherwise and alot of the times pirates fo end up purchasing the media when they find themselves in the position to be able to do so
this saved my life during science class last year i swear there was a point where no one was even listening we were all playing eaglrcraft on a lan server
I remember this, everybody at my school was playing this in 2021-2022. We would ALL gather around during lunch and have a whole SMP at our school. Even in class, you would just play it if you wanted to slack off. There would be groups, factions, drama, duplication and even lagging the server by creating huge cobblestone casts. It was on for a while until the I.T department figure out how to close it down.
It is so impressive that Eaglercraft runs in a frikkin' browser. Holy. It was a mistake by Mojang, imho, not to implement this into the real game since they bragged that Minecraft can run on a toaster. With this it prolly could for real, if the toaster has enough horsepower that is.
Why would they want to sell a product that’s an inferior version of an update that released a decade ago it’s incredibly impressive as a fan project but in no way is it commercially viable
@@polkarfield Like I said-the accessibility. Imagine if you could run the game on a pregnancy test. Of course, this is an extreme example, which is way over the top. And yeah - Mojang should offer two versions then, one with ambient sounds and music, and one with is for raw performance.
[6:25] OMG! I was just watching the video, and I noticed that you were playing Bugdom music in the background! :D I freakin' love that game! (Even though I was born way after that era of gaming.)
This game was my CHILDHOOD man. All my friends played it in middle school and we had hella fun with bedwars on a**pixel and griefed eachother on Aeon. Lax is such a W. I also have a question. How is the game still up if Lax shut it down?
@@InterFelix What I meant was me and my friends had fun playing it in middle school. I was under 13 at the time, but two years have passed. Also why are you telling me to get out? Am I not allowed to enjoy this content if I'm not an adult?
@@ksds9385 I guess dueting, remixing or whatever it's called on short-content platforms makes it toggleable to make a derivative, right? If creator knowingly agrees&have options about monetization, then it'd be better than casual stealing I think?
Honestly what the dude did in terms of code was amazing. What he did after that? Was dumb. If nothing else why not slide in the assets from MineTest? Why not try porting Minetest to Javascript and give it a minecraft-esque front end as that is usually the turn-off for people giving that project a looksee?
because even if you swap out the assets it's still copying code. From what I understand, he wasn't distributing compiled versions anyway so he was not breaking copyright laws
I was there for most of the journey, it was really cool to watch! I knew about Lax1dude before eaglercraft even released because of FNAW (five nights at Winston’s)
