It's so crazy that nobody wanted the Spaceship beat. It was so different but that's what made me love it instantly. 20 something years later and I never got tired of that or any of this album
your ability to reverse-engineer other people's beats is seriously uncanny, I've never seen anything like it. These videos are fascinating, keep em coming!
It's a bit pedantic but Spaceship isn't in 3/4 it's in 6/8, the backbeat is on 4. Dilla did a lot of moving 6/8 samples into 4/4 songs and 4/4 samples into 6/8 songs, it wasn't an unheard-of technique, Kayne just did it particularly well here.
Man. I’m 31 so I was still kind of young when this came out but it really was landmark, and you could tell when he was producing for other artists as well. His style was so recognizable. He’s just such a great orchestrator. he changed the landscape of mainstream rap and popular music in general
That spaceship beat and strong is amazing, I love it. Inspirational. Kanye was not a crowd follower, he's a creative genius. Fantastic breakdown as well this is, hats off to you.
The beat that so many people had passed on was "Last call" (actually only Jay-Z and Beanie, which isn't many at all, but two), not "Spaceships" as GLC is clearly saying in the quote that you highlighted. You (accidentaly?) misconstrued what he was saying. Also: Soul samples had been popular starting with "The Blueprint" and it's not at all like people didn't want Kanye's beats at the time. On the contrary: He had to hold back his favorites for himself and was constantly trying to do so.
This is what happens when you study good music, you sample to add your flavor to an already great song. The reason for the "odd" sample 3/4 timing is because he chose to keep the original bass while tweeking the timing to fit a hip hop style. The high hat placement is also an example of this, it really is not needed but is added at the end of the second pattern to introduce a sense of excitement or expectation. It is really something else, but to be honest if you actually listen to music vs pop music, you will notice these things more often, and many times there really is no science behind it, just feel it.
Thank you for addressing this. This is not intended rocket science, producers just do what they feel. I used to make beats with samples and the loops were sometimes very random. Sometimes the sample came in before the 1. Sometimes I used elements from the intro of the sample to become part of the main loop. DJ Premiere , Pete Rock, J Dilla, Q-Tip, The RZA, Large Professor, Marley Marl and the list goes on. They have all been known to do these things and not based on some kind of strategy. Only outsiders of the culture come in and dissect every little thing to provide their explanation on what it really is. Sound familiar at all? Amazing isn't it ? smh
your videos are truly amazing, really love to watch your content! would love to see a tutorial on how The Alchemist makes these spacey weird laser effects/synths with the crazy delay (sorry dont really know how to describe them). great stuff really ❣
I've always sampled like this, jus not in hiphop, for years, I never like to sample straight forward samples, but I chop up and plat sample chops over each other.
I always knew Kanye‘s Sampling skills are out of this world but I never realized how crazy he went before I startet beatmaking he truly is the GOAT imo
I really hoped I would never have to listen to Chingy again 😂. Thank you for these videos. I have no technical skills but my ears have always told me Kanye’s production is the peak of hip hop.
Ye really put hov over w these beats. And Jay knew who to pay and how to het around sampling issues so he had no problem bringing this sound back into hip hop
I heard Kanye used the 3/4 measure on his song Champion too. How do you even sample using other time measures like that? Can we get a video on that too?
@@keejay12 listen to "Hi" by J Dilla, the original sample is in 6/8, but Dilla played the chops on beats 1 and 3 of a 4/4 beat and because the original sample is in 6/8, it gives it a really heavy swing, or like in one of my beats, i took a drum break in 7/8 and added an extra snare and hihat hit to even it out to 8/8 or 4/4 . Or let's say you have a sample that is like a long phrase of notes that's in 3/4, you can play the long sustained notes either shorter than their original duration in your chop to change the rhythm, or you can chop the end off of one of the notes, play the chop to the end and then play the chop of the end of the note to make the one not last longer, extend it by a beat or two, thusly making it any time signature you want
@@koolmaaan I don't know much about other measures. I'll admit that. But why did you have to start off being didactic and patronizing as if you know me? Lol
Hey Navie D, have you ever thought about making some content about tyler the creator's productions? Both from the beginning when he was still in odd future, and during his solo career.
I have a question. Do the chops on Spaceship play monophonically or are there parts that they blend? As I am constructing beats I find it more intuitive to play chops and each chop cancels the other out but would like to practice doing otherwise if it is more musically sound. Thank you for your content homie. You do great breakdowns and contribute wonderful music yourself. Super skilled shit.
no way to know unless u ask kanye. he might have did it like its shown in the video or did it on two different tracks. remember we not takling about computer rn we talking about asr 10 possibly MPC. if he played both things in same track, idk if he will be able to apply effects to two very different soudns. try it out though
One factor for me as far as a producer or artist in general, Not many people are looking for great music anymore. Its about social statis now, not based on skill. People's attention spans have shortened over the years. It's hard enogh to get someone to give you a listen when you put out a new project. Copy amd paste producers dont have a style anymore. No individuality!!
I mean … Madvillainy, Champion Sound, Electric Circus, Cannibal Ox The Cold Vein, Fantastic Damage, Blazing Arrow (Blackalicious debut), Jurassic 5 debut (Strength in Numbers?) RJD2 debut, DJ Shadow’s second album, MM … Food, Vaudville Villain, The Grind Date, Get Rich Or Die Trying, The Black Album, Take Me To Your Leader, Pete Rock’s Petestrumentals, The Blueprint, a couple of Beatnut’s albums, a couple more Jay Dee/Dilla albums (Jay Loves Japan, Welcome to Detroit, Ruff Draft; and obviously a lot of the beats for Donuts and The Shining were already finished because we had them on beat tapes, or they were already songs on other artists independent releases or upcoming albums) … all came out before or essentially the same time as Kanye’s album. And many of those album, if not most of those albums, were more adventurous and innovative than Kanye’s from a sampling perspective (although not all as commercially successful or poppy), particularly the Dilla stuff, whom Kanye cribbed a lot of his sampling and drum techniques through their shared participation on the Common albums. A bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative you wanted to create for your video, guy?
It really reminds me, how the black church worships inside the church. How inside the worship, strange things, we just suddenly happens to distract the music or people we play how they won because they got lead by the spirit and he structures his songs the same way.
Great video and i always wonder what these top artist use to get the stems out of a track they want to sample? I recently tried RipX and while its not perfect, i does a amazing thing so im wondering if there is something like this on the market that the pro people use
you make it sound weird but it is not, it is actually pretty logical.. it is called chopping up samples in a way that gives that old skool dj vibe, that ius where the snare on the first bar comes from. spinning the record, looping certain parts, repeating a line while you play with the double snare.. just look at the average old skool dj battle, I think this is why we started doing this with samples on the mpc giving that mixtape vibe
I known Kanye since were kids living in South shore Dr. and I stayed on 77th and Coles across the street from St. Brides. Kanye never came outside alot but one time he came out and rode bikes with us down a dirt hill near Rainbow Beach, but there was a gang that tried to steal our bikes and Me and Kanye got away but Stanley his bike stolen. A nice red huffy trick bike stolen. Kanye really couldn't come out because his mom worked alot.
He didn’t “revive” it. But def kept the boom bap twist to it. Errbody has been sampling everyday til this day 50 cent get rich or die tryin had samples so did ja rule “mesmerized” and more
