The Story of The Death Knight Order Hall Campaign [Lore] 

Blizzard actually having there be repurcussions for these things, [ ]

Piss Silver Hand, checked

To be fair, the Ebon Blade DOES have to help with the Corrupted Ashbringer for the Paladins. So...that's some form of "payback" I guess.

yeah, but they kinda killed a bunch of guys during the invasion and ressurected another bunch of dead paladins (i think) from that crypt as ghouls

ally with the lich king, checked piss the silver hand, checked now we only need a badass horse mount

That's nothing compared to Sally Whitemane. Or even Delaryn.

It would stupid if dk's could just resurrect everyone so im happy they did that

tbh even if tirion got resurrected I dont see in any scenario he agrees to become a death knight and serve the lich king. Whitemane was burned by hatred even when serving the light and thus she was corrupted even before she got resurrected. Tirion, however, much like Uther are simply uncorruptible, they remain pure even in the face of death, even in the torturous realm and still answer the call and assists the paladdin champions from time to time.

are you forgetting that tirion is the friend of the current lich king

The Lich King is an entity in itself. There is little but memory that has been given to the new Lich King from Bolvar. Bolvar is gone , the Lich King is like a parasite , taking control and leaving nothing left , once the body is dispatched it lets go , which is why Arthas was Arthas in the end of it , coming to grips with what had happened. Bolvar can influence the choices the new Lich King will make , made evident that Arthas would still act the same towards people he knew to a degree , so this Lich King may recognize Tirion , but it does not mean that this Lich King would hesitate to kill him. It's almost like a clouded judgment. Tirion would not be friendly to the Lich King just because the person embodying him was once his friend. If it did work like just gaining new powers , we would not think of this Lich King as a threat at all , as Bolvar would not if he could control it even think of releasing the Scourge. The only reason Tirion would serve is because he would do an awful lot to save Azeroth and her people , but this would be pushing the limits of even him. He would have made a very reluctant Horsemen , which is why the story took this route as well as the many other reasons like it would make little sense for the Ebon Blade to waltz into Lights Hope without as much as an attempt from the Light to stop us. While I'm all for Death Knights being strong I feel the only way we got so far was the Light giving us a chance , Holy ground is not a good place for us.

It was a stupid move on the Ebon Blade's part to even try to resurrect Tirion, did Darion forget what happened last time he and the dk player tried to assault Light's Hope?

apparently you were out grinding ap while this happened.

As a matter of fact I was there when my brother (the Deathlord) attacked. I fought him with all my strength, but was defeated. Enraged, I called upon the full power of the Light to protect its greatest champion from the everlasting darkness of undeath. It answered.

RP much?

DarkEpyon123 Problem?

OcularCentaur42 How can two High lords existe in the same place?

Best glitch ever!

Haha, love bugs like that

Are you sure you're a rogue? :D

Bindair Dundat positive.

***** it was so weird dude. i was hella confused

Wasn't that Garrosh's philosophy?

TheGoldenKing20 ye arthas job was being a bad ass that like damnnnn jaina ASSS

They are just being fair to everyone. Don't want any group to feel left out

The old gods?, oh wait they are already pissed off nevermind...

How the hell Can the Death knights even be allowed to be in the Next Expansion after pretty much pissing off The Horde, The Alliance, And the Silver hand............Meanwhile Illidan Fucks up Xera and by association the Army of the light hold a bit of a teeny little grudge against the DH....

Koltira is my worldquest buddy :)

I will make sure he will suffer for eternity......

Nobbel is right though, its dissapointing. You waited 6 years for nothing to happen.

Unless they add more to the campaigns in later patches and Sylvanas did something to his mind, it did seem fairly easy to get to him.

its slightly disappointing but considering how long it took them I was just so ready for it to have resolution, anything would suffice at this point

Agreed! A single gnome is taller than a human!

Idk Brann Bronzebeard is a pretty badass dwarf tho hes small

Just use a Personal World Shrinker!

in the warcraft universe size directly equals power, that's why all the raid bosses are bigger than buildings

Well in raids its a reason its to make them easier to target middle of all the players, I guess its the same reason in places like this.

when they we're calling my Demon Hunter Slayer I was like 'Wtf is that just another word used to replace my name, like champion or hero'

Originally in Beta you received the title immediately. This was changed to give to completing the Order Hall Campaign to make them more rewarding.

I believe that in the beta, and therefor the majority of Legion's development beforehand, you unlocked the title as soon as you unlocked the Class Hall. People complained that it didn't seem like a reward or something to build up to, so Blizz changed it to be an unlocked title. Obviously they couldn't just redo all those voice lines, so there's that discrepancy I may be incorrect as it was awhile ago

Khadgar once called my Warlock Netherlord and was completely confused to why he called me that

In RL we call Presidents and Ministers leaders long before they show any leadership, if ever.

not gonna lie I actually got super excited when I heard Tirion get chosen as the fourth horsemen. like OH SHIT WE GET TIRION TO FIGHT ALONG SIDE HIM!?! But yeah the power of the light is a hell of a thing. I hope the Silver Hand doesn't retaliate against us. But I wouldn't blame them we tried to revive one of the greatest heroes and the hero who delivered the final blow to Arthas shattering Frostmourne.

Yeah, I mean his father was the Horsemen before him. It's fitting that he is the new one.

Same. When Lich King mentioned Tirion, I was like,"Oh come on. Guy gave more then anyone and you want to raise him as the leader for the four horsemen?!" Ironic twist of fate that Darion would share dad's fate :o but better him then Tirion.

it was better if tirion was a horesman , tirion could actualy do something usefull in this expansion , beccause now EVERYBODY has the mighty assbringher bla bla

tirion would wake up look around get a wtf face and then pray for the light to kill him

maybe he thought of nerzhul, maybe he was the one in control all this time. maybe we're all his puppets. he does hate the burning legion more than he hates the rest of us, especially after kiljaden used the image of his wife to trick him, and the whole soul ripping probably didn't help either.

This should have all the thumbs up

by bolvar i meant him and nerzhul u know... they merged after all :P so is it like hint from Arthas not to trust lk because he controlls everything or just an awesome Wall break :D i really hope that they will extend this thing... i really wanna know why is Arthas warning us and what will happen

it's exactly what i thought !! he must be talking about the player, the character is our tool, they think they are in control, but we are the one to decide their action!!!! ARTHAS KNOWS !!

Next xpac, Arthas redemption storyline and together with Illidan they can dethrone The New Day as the Tag Team Champions!

ikr?

Monk order hall campaign is... underwhelming to say the least.

Yeah, Monk was suuuuppperr anti climactic compared to DK

Phantom Gaming I havnt done any thing past getting the dread blades, so no spoilerino`s!

I enjoyed the monk one for what it was, the artifact quests were pretty awesome and unique.

It's not Arthas, though it is concerning that Yogg'Saron is still trying to corrupt Northrend.

Murphio we dont know that

Old gods are not dead nor alive, they are outside the cycle

Old gods are all dead except for nzoth, anyone who says otherwise isnt updated on lore, or they have their headcannon.

xXMLGgamer69Xx azeroth was devastated after the titans killed y'sharj. dou you really think ALL old gods except n'zoth are 100% dead? and if so pls link me your source. because from what i know so far the old gods have been kinda pushed back by us (except y'sharj, he really is dead)

I would have retired my Paladin and reroll DeathKnight XD

well, would it be fun to have to exchange currency? bear money to draenor money?

The water in Azeroth makes you shit gold.

Tass Александр there are you speak only warlocks understand demonic and if you try to speak to another faction it comes out as random but pronounceable gibberish

+Tass Александр Actually LOLed at this

Because game mechanics.

Well, a baseline DK is more powerful lore-wise than a baseline of any other class. But when it comes to the upper limits of power, some of the others begin pulling ahead. But, the thing with DK's is, the longer they live and the more they fight, the stronger they get. So theoretically, a Death Knight's power ceiling is only surpassed by an immortal mage or warlock.

The OG edgelord :D

Arthas vs Illidan I always remember it as the battle of the edgelords.

its not Arthas anymore but Bolvar, he obviously is not such a dickbag like Arthas was with the LK persona.

And the Lich King isn't forcing them, they're _choosing_ to do so. LK is like an advisor.

The LK is The LK. There's no "We" only "I", regardless of whom sits under the crown. He's still the same manipulative mastermind he always was, he's using the ebon blade for his ends, which by sheer coincidence happen to be ours too for now (defeating the legion). It will undoubtedly turn on us the moment we deal with the legion, you can be sure of that

Ackbar Reserve How do you know? Ner'zhul (as the spirit of the LK) and Arthas as the body merged at some point, and then Arthas was slain. There is no guarantee that Ner'zhul somehow was able to un-merge with Arthas and remain as Spirit inside the Armor and wait for Bolvar to take up the mantle of the LK. Thus far the LK hasnt displayed any kind of powerstruggle in his mind or any kind of hostility towards others.

Ackbar Reserve Do you not remember that Bolvar has _endless_ will, he did not succumb to the Lich King's torture. With indomitable will, you _CAN_ control the Lich King. Shown by Arthas using Frostmourne and not instantly being LK.

I think the demon hunters are taking our edgelord status :

Of course. We sacrificed everything. What have you given?

What have we given? Our lives, and afterlives, to forever be damned

Just Death Knights x Demon Hunters (such cute couple)

The Edgelord of the Ebonblade plus his Four Cringemen.

bob drenan It would make sense. We diiiiiid retrieve 5 saddles.

the new karazhan mount midnight has the same model as the one from darion

it would be cool but they probably wont end up doing it, blizz likes to make content that all players of all classes can see.

bob drenan BLIZZAAAARD! HIRE THIS MAN/WOMAN/CHAIR/ALIEN/WHATEVER! He/she/it has really good ideas!

bob drenan I'm here from the future to confirm that this happened =)

Eh, since the dire situation I would imagine Horde and Alli would just suck it up. Especially since Nazgrim and Trollbane are happy to have a chance to save Azeroth.

IKR??? Isn't it just WAY more interesting to have Tirion come back as a Death Knight? When I went in to do that final quest and I was looking forward to finding out who it would be, I was so disappointed when it turned out to be Darion... I like Darion but it's boring. Plus, wouldn't everyone have been better off if Tirion could have returned in one form or another? Isn't he gonna be more use to everyone alive (ish)?

You do know that the order hall campaigns are not finished right? This is not all we get...

David Uzsak In regards to Tirion becoming a death knight i am against it just like everyone else; however what i wanted to see personally is him coming up as a ghost and stating the reasons why he can not be a death knight and why he can not help any more and just want to rest like his fellow paladins (Uther) BUT he will be there to guide us and show us the true meaning of coming together and even maybe showing Darion the true meaning in becoming a great leading force of redemption even as a leader of the horsemen and death knights order... just thinking about it gives me the feels to be honest.

There are way more important things than retaliation right now.

Sylvanas. And the red dragon flight. And the mages kind of.

Wow Jedi same i love the books and show its great

its an awesome series dude.

"Giant Nightmare Eye implies Sylvanas will be the one to free the Old Gods" What the fuck are you talking about?

I believe his refering to the quote "the hour of her 3rd death will usher are coming"

rdogg114 But Sylvanas has already died 3 times.

This turned more accurate than it should have been.

@@flowonthego yea

Soulitario25 I think he'd chosen darian all along. He knew the lights strength at light hope, there was no chance they would be able to bring him back as a horseman. He just set up darian for a heroic end to bring him back...again lol

Nah I think he knew that the Light would not let us take Tirion and that we would end up dying and he just wanted to see if Darion would once again sacrifice himself for the greater cause.

I think it was a test, to see if the Ebon Blade would actually try.

he never really chose tirion. he knew the light would never allow it. he was testing darion all along.

The Lich King is his own entity , everyone else is just to help him be. Ner'Zul was where he began , Arthas became his body , and now Bolvar takes the place of Arthas after he was dispatched. Arthas had little idea what had happened , it like a nightmare where you can't control your body. This Lich King would not hesitate to kill , put into servitude , nor torture Tirion. This Lich King will probably be able to say a few more personal things as Bolvar's memory is assimilated , but it's still the Lich King nonetheless.

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Thank you very much! :)

invisible and invincible are 2 different things..that joke has NEVER been good.

Yes, Invincible. Not invisible

except that you just completed the joke, mate

That unfunny joke died with Wrath. Stop beating an undead horse.

Tristan Milner I don't understand it either, how can anyone see invincible?

As a Warlock main, I support this.

i found warlock campaign disappointing :(

Yeah it was nowhere near as good as this one.

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The warlock one is so lame, we do nothing interesting,

To be fair we are gaining troops for such attacks. If we just attacked with what we had then we wouldn't be at our most powerful. So what if we pissed off the Horde and Alliance? The true threat is the legion and I don't see any horsemen we brought back complaining about "I do not wish to serve". They know the legion must be stopped at all cost, and if there is a reason to raise the dead that fought or were part of those times in the war. Then you need the best of the best you can muster. Sometimes if people do not wish to hear or be reasoned with actions must be taken for the survival of the whole world. Death Knights understand this as do DH's. They know great sacrifice must come, and they can't leave it in the hands in the light. Thus whenever the world is threaten by such beings of chaos, you can count on the DH's and DK's to answer the call and do whatever it takes to save their world.

outrage is for the living

im honestly annoyed by whitemane and Nazgrim as part of the 4 horsemen, i don't really see why whitemane would join you, she hates the undead with a burning passion

+MrCooljeppe i thought about it too it seemed strange but there is always the chance the lich king helped "persuade" them

i doubt they are using mind control (yet). We know that souls go somewhere in death and when resurrected they arent exactly the same as on life, thats why Darion said "Death has a way of quelling the madness of the mind..." The fact that Whitemane feels like there is no atonement for her indicates the she now sees her past actions as wrong. Nazgrim on the other hand is an Orc and was a warrior and if somebody hates demons enough to put aside complaints about resurrection is an orc You can call bullshit and bad writting but i think that thats their angle and not some lich king uga buga mind control again

It is a little odd but I think it may also not be entirely their own feelings but rather the necromancy affecting their viewpoints, influencing them. Nazgrim I buy entirely however. He's an orc, he hates the legion for corrupting his people, and it gives him an excuse to keep on fighting things. The others seem to have at least some sense of unfinished business to influence their sudden undead state

tbh i was kinda hoping in varian for some reason XD

That would've been badass!!

They probably went with more recent characters. Nazgrim died 2 expansions ago and Tirion was the Khadgar of WotLK. Uther may have had some role but he was dead before WoW. Same with Grom. Not to mention we already got a "second" Grom in WoD.

There is not that much left of him. ^^

In the Legion alpha, they had a whole bunch of different characters appearing in the OH campaigns. For example, the warrior Valhalla place was filled with OUR warrior heroes, like Lothar, Broxigar, Grom, Nazgrim (the non-DK one), Varian, and the likes. That means Nazgrim was not always meant to be a Horseman. But they changed much before release, and Valhalla is a vrykul place now without OUR old heroes in there. I assume there were other similar changes in the last minute. Wonder if these characters will ever make an appearance or were completely scrapped.

Yea, such a "right thing", killing people who is your allies. I dont see how Whitemane doing anything better than she was doing while she were alive. Similiar goes with Nazgrim.

yep

i didnt do the undercity quest line on my blood dk

damn so its frost related..

Jayden - I did it on my Blood DK.

SavantUncensored I'm not sure I can't remember doing it at all I remember going to under city so I can fly to pally Oder hall but that's it can you do it while lvling because I just speed leveled and mite have missed it or is it Max Lvl quest line

Same result I think woulda happened.

The light can't do shit in Ebon Hold, so no, I don't think the same would have happened. But I don't think the light would let us take him.

Resurrection of Tirion wasn't the true goal.

Because the Light probably wouldn’t have let them do that either.

That isn't it. Trollbane was there. He/She didn't want to fight Trollbane.

Lich king probably ?

Well, now that's it's been about 4 years. It might be this Jailer guy I keep hearing a lot about. I don't play WoW so don't take me word for it.

dwarves, forsaken, and orcs are pretty good fits forsaken are already dead so they're used to being dead, but lorewise forsaken dk is kinda silly, as they have died twice. dwarves are a pretty good pick because they're already strong and used to frost (dun morough) and orcs were the first DKs, while not the same as current dks they WERE the first. draenei also sync pretty good with dk considering how faithful they are to the light, it's kinda messed up since now they are all about shadow death unholy etc.

blood elves are pretty good because of the scourge invasion of silvermoon.

The first death knights were orc souls put into human corpses by Gul'dan, so human.

Depends what you mean by "most deathknighty." In the lore, there's more human death knights than any other race, but the first death knight was an orc (Teron Gorefiend).

Gnomes.

yeah start a war with a potential allied faction while the legion knock on our gates. dont we got enough problems with sylvannus and the nightmare as is?

we will save that for when the legion is dealt with

Death Knights aren't really evil. They're edgy anti-heroes and are "doing what the living cannot" to save Azeroth. While the things they do during the campaign like attacking Light's Hope are morally questionable actions they're not doing them for selfish reasons. Thassarian sums it up really well with one of his quotes: "The world will cry out in anger against us, but the air that fills their lungs will be bought with the price of our souls."

So why have they not tried to resurrect Medivh or Varian or Vol'jin or any past hero. They went for the one person they knew should not be messed with and failed because they are pawns of the LK. Tirion before he became a badass wanted to live alone and in peace. He came out of hiding to defend his world he loved and in his death he wanted to be returned to that peace so he gave us Ashbringer so that we can continue his work. Why go and disturb him if he has done enough for Azeroth? Why not raise arthas again to be a DK? DH say the same thing "what have you sacrificed" ya well you chose to do this so it is not a sacrifice if you chose it. The only thing DH/DK have sacrificed is their own free will, the rest of the classes were smart enough to keep it, well maybe not Warlocks.

So was the illidan oh w8 no he wasn't.

how do you not know this hes shown up in other campaigns too....

I haven't played that much yet not to the point I've seen him

Nikita M. I doubt you would want too

Tirion died like a bitch and so will your entire class DKS 4 LIFE

isn't there a class hall quest that brings you to the four horsemen because they owe the pallys.

sick roleplay m8

After all one of the specs is named Retribution. ;)

it's the Ashbringer secret appearance questline that brings the paladin in front of the Four Horseman, and they infuse their power to create it

Did you even finish the video?

so many spelling mistakes...

Ahm...No..He's not....you even edited your comments...and you're still wrong...

would also be a cool video to make

Eduardo Sixto "Are there none among the Scarlet Crusade with the strength to challenge me?!"