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Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of The "Ladies of Llangollen". These were two upper-class Irish women who left home to live together as a couple in Wales where they would remain for 50 years!
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@Flaschenteufel
@Flaschenteufel Год назад
Sounds like quite a wonderful life they had together. I'll never understand why people are that interested and judging about other peoples' sex life.
@jodygrulich8695
@jodygrulich8695 Год назад
Because it tends to affect your lifestyle and makes you different I guess. From watching the video you can see how very much it mattered to them. It determined their lives.
@Gartenpalme1
@Gartenpalme1 Год назад
Nobody cares about people's sex life's until those people shove it in everybody's face and want to be special....I don't want to hear it and see it from straight or gay.
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye Год назад
Because the average IQ is below 100, and most people are nosy and stupid.
@corvidflight19
@corvidflight19 Год назад
Politicians like to use topics like this as a way of diversion. So most people do not ask what they are really up to. So if your worried about what someone else is doing in their bedroom you're not worried about what the politicians are really up to!
@DiabolikalFollikles
@DiabolikalFollikles 9 месяцев назад
because they are miserable and have no fulfilling hobbies, nor quality lives of their own. Love is love.
@kimberlypatton205
@kimberlypatton205 Год назад
It’s rare enough in this world to find someone you love and who loves you.. and when you find that person, treasure it above all.
@missbraindamage
@missbraindamage Год назад
Sometimes love isn't enough
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Год назад
Unless their name is Greg
@maryroberts9315
@maryroberts9315 Год назад
In the United States, these used to be called "Boston marriages". They were households to two upper-class women who didn't want a traditional marriage. I think they were tolerated by society because women were often thought not have a sexual nature. So, society to see these relationships as done for companionships, rather than romantic. As you mentioned, a similar relationship between two men would not have been tolerated. Very interesting episode!
@jodygrulich8695
@jodygrulich8695 Год назад
I have a friend who enjoys men but not a full time coupling. I could see her doing this at that time because she values her independence so much. I do think these particular ladies were lesbians though, not saying they weren't
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye Год назад
"Lavender Marriages" are between a Gay male and a straight female beard, or a Lesbian.
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye Год назад
Mary: males enjoyed these relationships, also, though marriage to a female was mandatory. Case in point: Abraham Lincoln.
@6Haunted-Days
@6Haunted-Days Год назад
@@Armistead_MacSkyethere were plenty of bachelors….all through life….so no, marriage for me was NOT MANDATORY 🙄🤷🏼‍♀️
@xdani_thethinkingneko
@xdani_thethinkingneko Год назад
Lol , I just imagine the queer women of that era being like jokes on you! Her fav seat is my face 😈
@TheBabz
@TheBabz 10 месяцев назад
There’s a great book written about these ‘companions’. The Ladies of Llangollen’, it’s a true account, due to the amount of people that knew their story, & they were both avid diarists. As you said, They were determined to be together, so ran away. The first time, they were caught & returned, due mainly to the age & prosperity of the younger of the two.. Later, both families tried to keep them apart, but they had made financial savings, & arrangements ahead of their travels, allowing them to travel & rent a home in Wales. Beyond that, they would take one day at a time. The cottage was in poor shape, so the original rent was low, but they began to work the land, & raise livestock, which brought in money for living expenses, to pay farmhands, to care for the livestock. They even had a smaller building made habitable for the game keeper. They paid little in wage, but no one seemed to mind, as everyone who ever did business with them were enthralled by their rich characters & how hard they themselves worked. Yes, they were a couple, lovers, & from the start, their reputation spread far & wide. Most assumed they were just companions, who only ever wanted a quiet life away from the busy life in Ireland. The old housemaid knew the truth of course, & when she became Ill they cared for her. They did little to attract attention other than, one of them loved to paint & sketch soldiers, & scenes of ongoing wars, or unrest. She sold them to newspapers, & a few privately. They wrote short articles & wrote many letters, keeping copies for themselves. They entertained well known writers, poets. Businessmen & wealthy women. And other well known cross dressers, gay men & lesbians. All having heard their brave & happy tale from previous visitors. As you read, they were people of routine, & preferred visitors to make an appointment. They both dressed alike in heavy, dark masculine clothing, that blotted out feminine traits, but they seldom ventured far, they had everything they needed, the locals protected them, & their good name, & ran errands to the village close by. Sarah, was eventually awarded a pension from relatives, that was rightfully hers, which eased winter conditions. Anne Lister, better known now as “Gentleman Jack”, was Intrigued by them, & how well they were treated & seemingly accepted. Even though Anne, felt they, lived a very closed life, she envied their ability to run off & leave family & restrictions behind, to live together & remain so all their lives. Devoted to the end, which spurred Anne on with her quest to find a life partner, & to travel, & enjoy the the under belly of society & the freedom she felt when in France, the parties or coffee house where lesbians could meet to talk & be free to express themselves, & by dressing however they liked.
@noorgonzalez1076
@noorgonzalez1076 10 месяцев назад
😮 Ty vm
@CaitlinCostello
@CaitlinCostello Год назад
Wow, Llangollen is a 10 minute drive from me! I've followed this channel for so long and didn't expect to hear of a story so close to home! I didn't even know about these ladies!
@patriciahayes2664
@patriciahayes2664 Год назад
You do now, as do I.
@Orwic1
@Orwic1 Год назад
Same here. I’ve known Llangollen ever since I can remember, and now live quite close by. I’ve also visited Plas Newydd on several occasions - I did know much of the history of the ‘Ladies of Llangollen’, but it was interesting to learn more from this video - thanks for posting!
@realestudergroundsou
@realestudergroundsou Год назад
why would u they were just two lesbians its not like they changed the world or anything
@kfemme68
@kfemme68 Год назад
​​​@@realestudergroundsouwell in some ways they actually did. They had many of the great minds of the times as their guests. Not bad for "just a couple of lesbians"! 🙄
@MrHotlipsholohan
@MrHotlipsholohan 10 месяцев назад
You should visit Woodstock house, a ruin now but with great gardens , i,ve walked them many times, in Inisteoge Co Kilkenny to see where it all began.
@geeker6350
@geeker6350 Год назад
The original 'they were roommates.'
@50PullUps
@50PullUps Год назад
Oh wow, they were roommates 🕶️ RIP vine
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 Год назад
🙏👌👍👻❣️
@heyokaempath5802
@heyokaempath5802 Год назад
"Business associates, " even!!
@AHD2105
@AHD2105 Год назад
Yea its common for girls to have close pairings as opposed to males who usually have close group associations. So if they were male you would assume they were gay. The girls may have both shared a fear or shyness of males and chose to be reclusive if them. The older one might very been gay and put fear into the younger one about what marriage involved.
@chocolar0074
@chocolar0074 Год назад
​@@heyokaempath5802😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jeanettemarkley7299
@jeanettemarkley7299 Год назад
I never leave home unless I am going to the doctor or dentist. For a decade I didn't go out at all. No doctor, no dentist. I didn't even go out on my back porch. I go in my yard now and walk for exercise and sun around my house. That includes going onto my front sidewalk and seeing neighbors and passers by sometimes. I have agoraphobia but am now under the care of a psychiatrist and on medication. My husband and I are retired now so I'm no longer lonely and I have always had the company of one or two dogs that I love. I am in touch with my husbands mother and father who I have not seen for decades, but I love. My doctor does think I am a true introvert but I am not sure about that because I used to love parties and friends.
@MeeMenuchoth
@MeeMenuchoth Год назад
I live just down the way from Llangollen. I'd not heard about these ladies and just love that you've told their story. 😃❤️😃
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 Год назад
I have heard of these ladies before but I enjoyed hearing it again here with the gorgeous illustrations. It’s a very touching story of a very close and loving friendship. It must have been ghastly for Sarah after Eleanor died. Poor soul. Thank you for telling this lovely story.
@abigailchristenson388
@abigailchristenson388 Год назад
They were literally girlfriends bro lmao
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 Год назад
@@abigailchristenson388 Same thing really. A close and loving friendship.
@abigailchristenson388
@abigailchristenson388 Год назад
@@borleyboo5613 i mean yeah but also like having sex with each other. Thats a pretty big difference between regular friendship and partners lmao
@hablin1
@hablin1 Год назад
Being a woman in those days was not for the faint hearted ❤
@okimawilcox1550
@okimawilcox1550 Год назад
The corsets shifting your organs alone was ghastly
@jessicahay9305
@jessicahay9305 Год назад
Being a person in those days was the for the faint hearted, but life was FAR more dangerous for men than women. In general anyway.
@allyshaburns1576
@allyshaburns1576 Год назад
It sounds like they lived a nice life. This one made me happy
@patriciahayes2664
@patriciahayes2664 Год назад
It made me happy, too.
@misscoutts6193
@misscoutts6193 Год назад
Could not have done it without money.
@OzzieJayne
@OzzieJayne Год назад
We have a similar couple in Victoria, Australia - Caroline Newcomb and Ann Drysdale.
@jefflawrentz1624
@jefflawrentz1624 Год назад
What a fascinating story. I would love to go see their house. Thank you!
@realityanchor7211
@realityanchor7211 Год назад
Bull Shite, Beta boy.
@ciah63
@ciah63 Год назад
It’s a lovely day out… went there a few years ago …’The Ladies of Llangollen’ were known for their parties - they were fascinating women… 👍
@KetinaSolari
@KetinaSolari Год назад
Beautifull story. I admire this two free spirited women ,living their life's their own way,in times were society was very strict . They loved each other's truly,that's why after one died the other one died soon too. Love and freedom goes together,they are proof of it. Thanks dear for another lovely and inspiring story.
@veronicaroach3667
@veronicaroach3667 Год назад
Very interesting - I have spent a lot of time in North Wales - passing thru Llangollen often but did not know this story at the time or I certainly would have wanted to visit the house. Thanks for this story - how wonderful that Miss Lister also visited them - her story is really good too. I watched the TV series about her several years ago - qwhat guts these ladies had to be who thye are without fear ! We do not choose who we are when we are born, just given a shell to live in & yet we are all judged by others !
@krisfinley6706
@krisfinley6706 Год назад
Good for them!👏 I'm glad they were able to be buried together too😊
@jessrosefawkes2721
@jessrosefawkes2721 Год назад
Thank you for this upload, I’ve Never heard of this story before and I found it very interesting, so Thank you x
@janmarchand7294
@janmarchand7294 Год назад
Everyone deserves happiness, and I'm glad these two ladies found theirs. I'm sure it was difficult to be in a same sex relationship for many given the time period.
@MightyMezzo
@MightyMezzo Год назад
This brought up my memory of seeing the play “Lady-Like” by Laura Shamas, at the Philadelphia Theater Company in the early 1990s. It was my introduction to the ladies of Llangollen. Thank you!
@denisehenry3427
@denisehenry3427 Год назад
I'm glad that they created their happiness. Interesting story. ♥
@paularodrigues7440
@paularodrigues7440 Год назад
Magnificent case...two women ahead of their time...loved it...good job BC
@ELKE-
@ELKE- Год назад
It's always enjoyable to get your notification, and listen to you FLives. Thank you for this amazing history. Great job!
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat Год назад
The house and grounds look awesome, wish I could visit
@meemurthelemur4811
@meemurthelemur4811 Год назад
Fancy meeting you here!🙋🏻‍♀️
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat Год назад
@meemurthelemur4811 hello there! 👋
@kimsherlock8969
@kimsherlock8969 Год назад
Amazingly creative in Gothic designing , Both in harmony with realised design building dreams . A very demanding financially secure position gave them this freedom to make their own blissfully choosen life. Not many could escape marriage at the high end pressures to obey , they did . I hope away from the false facades of society both achieved contented lives .
@PhDrSeuss
@PhDrSeuss Год назад
It amazes me the stories I've seen/heard here. I'm always learning something new. Thank you for thos story. This is the 1st time I've ever heard of these two women. Thanks very much. I can't wait for your next video.
@darriendastar3941
@darriendastar3941 Год назад
What a lovely and happy story.
@aimeelynne7372
@aimeelynne7372 Год назад
We love it! Have you already done Ann Lister? Did we miss that one?
@finolaomurchu8217
@finolaomurchu8217 Год назад
Very enjoyable story. ☘️👍
@irishwoman3975
@irishwoman3975 Год назад
I have not heard of these ladies before, thank you.
@christelostrom2472
@christelostrom2472 Год назад
This was beautifully done! Ur voice is very soothing and the stories u choose are infinitely interesting!
@throow
@throow Год назад
Great story. Never heard about them before
@Demebeso714
@Demebeso714 Год назад
Beyond interesting...Ive never heard of them before...your presentation of them was flawless..great job!
@Earthbound369
@Earthbound369 Год назад
Awesome story of "Love conquers all". Thank you for highlighting 2 fascinating lives.
@newenglandcoast7121
@newenglandcoast7121 Год назад
I enjoyed this very much; you do a lovely job with these videos! 👍👍
@jenniferwatts7526
@jenniferwatts7526 Год назад
This was so interesting and the ladies so brave. Thank you for making this.
@adventureswithamy7747
@adventureswithamy7747 Год назад
Very interesting! Thank you.
@cherylbrooks7005
@cherylbrooks7005 Год назад
Love your stories!
@marygrummer9189
@marygrummer9189 Год назад
Very interesting, as usual. Thanks!
@micheleosullivan4430
@micheleosullivan4430 Год назад
Thank you for the great story.
@AnnieRMcEwen
@AnnieRMcEwen Год назад
Wonderful episode. I visited Llangollen a few years ago and am sorry I didn't know about the Ladies then. I will definitely visit the house museum when next I'm there.
@melanieanddavideccles895
@melanieanddavideccles895 Год назад
My first stop at this channel, so interesting, nicely done!
@lisafrench5470
@lisafrench5470 Год назад
New to the channel, really enjoyed this first video, can't wait to watch more as I've always been interested in history. Thank you and respect for the amazing job you do.
@robynfrauenstein1264
@robynfrauenstein1264 Год назад
I really enjoyed this interesting video with its gorgeous images. Thank you!
@brianswinscoe5412
@brianswinscoe5412 Год назад
Thank you so much . Brilliant amazing history . Eileen
@giaatta9303
@giaatta9303 Год назад
Awesome over 250k subscribers. Congratulations 🎉
@satsumamoon
@satsumamoon Год назад
What beautiful paintings you found for your wonderful presentation of this story!
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Год назад
I just love all your videos
@aprilrich807
@aprilrich807 Год назад
Thank you. Such a riveting love story. May they both rest in eternal peace, together. ❤️🙏
@magpiesneedle2575
@magpiesneedle2575 Год назад
An absolutely beautiful story of a nearly lifelong friendship and love, including how dear they felt for Mary and she them. (Amazing ‘cottage’). Thank you for this.
@ChloeShaliniArt
@ChloeShaliniArt Год назад
Many thanks. I visited their house years ago but never learnt very much about their histories. ❤
@vickiarduini5796
@vickiarduini5796 Год назад
Another fascinating video. Thank you for taking us back in time. I just love the artwork and photos you are able to find and share with us. Do you ever link where the artwork is from? I especially love the painting of the inn at time mark 8.50. Thank you
@billhardy7870
@billhardy7870 Год назад
A fascinationg life and story. Thank you!
@donnadees1971
@donnadees1971 Год назад
I’m so grateful for info that connects other bits of info to what I know…
@rebeccacarter1914
@rebeccacarter1914 Год назад
I don't care about the details of their relationship. I am just happy that they lived their lives as they liked. Everyone should be free to be happy. They didn't bother anyone.
@Rachel-tw2wq
@Rachel-tw2wq Год назад
I believe the details of their relationship are part of their life story. It is what made them, them.
@sophiegolden
@sophiegolden Год назад
What a happy and peaceful life... Thanks for this interesting story, I m new in your channel 😊
@lindseyankers3526
@lindseyankers3526 Год назад
I live about half an hour from Llangollen. This is really interesting . A fabulous place 🤗🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@nikkicat254
@nikkicat254 Год назад
I had known about Anne Lister for awhile, especially having watched and enjoyed the HBO series about her, but I hadn't heard of these two before this video! Being like them, it's nice to see how many women managed to live the way they were, instead of having to do as everyone else wanted them to be! Thank you for this!
@alvarovaldovinos6836
@alvarovaldovinos6836 Год назад
Beautiful story and inspirational
@texas1949
@texas1949 Год назад
Sooo interesting! TY!
@AngelaNortonTyler
@AngelaNortonTyler Год назад
This would be a great movie.
@katrinashostakovich3607
@katrinashostakovich3607 Год назад
What a beautiful story and life together
@palmirareisrocha
@palmirareisrocha Год назад
What a beautiful life story. Thank you .
@59tante
@59tante Год назад
What a great story. Thanks
@nurmaybooba
@nurmaybooba Год назад
Thank-you, that was very interesting. I am glad they had a nice life.
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 Год назад
Always interesting Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲
@amazinggrace3207
@amazinggrace3207 Год назад
Fascinating story for me as I come from Kilcooley and know the house well. I also know Kilkenny and the castle. Thank you. There is a monument to Wellington nearby.
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 Год назад
What a wonderful story. Two strong and intelligent women who lived a long and happy life on their own terms. A lovely break from a lot of sad stories about Sapphic women. Never heard of Ann Lister either. Hers sounds like an interesting story. Really enjoyed this video. Great job!
@Ann-ub4mf
@Ann-ub4mf 11 месяцев назад
Thank You. ❤
@julianaclayton7893
@julianaclayton7893 Год назад
I really envy them….. thank you for sharing this with me
@newph0newhodis
@newph0newhodis Год назад
Good 👏 for 👏 them!! 👏
@LP-jn4tw
@LP-jn4tw Год назад
My first thought exactly! Brave of them, also.
@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats
@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats Год назад
Very interesting!
@cryptomojito
@cryptomojito Год назад
Thanks!
@luarena
@luarena Год назад
I'm from kilkenny and live not far from kilkenny castle.. Thankyou fotyhis fantastic story
@patriciahayes2664
@patriciahayes2664 Год назад
Very sweet and tender story.
@jacquelinecrabb6088
@jacquelinecrabb6088 Год назад
Very interesting!!
@katrinamoore3520
@katrinamoore3520 Год назад
Go and visit the house if you are ever in Llangollen. Well worth the time.
@terriehumphries6028
@terriehumphries6028 Год назад
I enjoy your Historic stories.
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye Год назад
They enjoyed a loving partnership. 🌹
@michelles9897
@michelles9897 Год назад
hooray new video. ✨
@SafetySpooon
@SafetySpooon Год назад
Anne Boleyn's father was a cousin of the Earls of Ormonde & there was a "succession crisis" then, too. In order to settle the matter (& probably to help break up her betrothal to Harry Percy, son of the Earl of Northumberland), Anne was betrothed to James Butler, so that the claims would be united.
@triplethreat252
@triplethreat252 Год назад
This sounds like Gentleman Jack
@bridgwll
@bridgwll Год назад
Ann lister visited them
@elizabethramos3452
@elizabethramos3452 10 месяцев назад
The days were peaceable and silent, but the nights were not so. It was fire in heaven.
@brendancorcoran245
@brendancorcoran245 Год назад
Thank ,that was mot interesting.
@LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay80
@LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay80 Год назад
I wish I never had to leave my home either. I wish I had the money to hire help. On the other hand, When you get older you don't feel the need to socialize anymore as you learn people love to talk and use everything you may have said in confidence to talk about you. Therefore, you'll be lucky if you have any friends once your older. Edit: See once these ladies let people into their lives they started talking about them.
@LilyFlowers-hh3sc
@LilyFlowers-hh3sc 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for my lunch video. 😅❤
@eileencorcoran3090
@eileencorcoran3090 Год назад
My family live there and a few miies away....
@adasteia6667
@adasteia6667 Год назад
I am truly astounded, given the times that these woman were able not only to live in a society that fully accepted them but that they were also celebrated by being visited by famous people ! It is lovely they did not have to suffer for whatever their relationship may have been ! 🍃✝️🍃
@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 Год назад
Thank you.
@CindiCares
@CindiCares 6 месяцев назад
What a beautiful story. Although I am sure this was a very tough road
@nicholasjones7312
@nicholasjones7312 День назад
The double DD at the end of Plas Newydd is a single letter in Welsh and pronounced as a “th” as in the English word “Thee”
@cheylikespie
@cheylikespie Год назад
I'm sure they were really, really, really, really, really, REAAAAALLY, really good friends
@sarahthompson8610
@sarahthompson8610 Год назад
Yes the best of friend, taught by a 30 yr old to a child. Totally respectfully, child abuse is kewl since they're female. Can't even say women since once one was a child.
@amandabrooks6209
@amandabrooks6209 Год назад
⁠@@sarahthompson8610you do realize that within the era that they were both raised in it was not considered unusual to have an age gap. I think your rage is misplaced on the lesbians who did not gain a single thing other than love and companionship, and should really be directed at the old men marrying 12 year olds to sire a new generation of men who do the same. Child abuse? Come the fuck on
@kina18
@kina18 Год назад
​@@sarahthompson8610Maybe she didn't care to risk her life popping out some man's brats.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Год назад
​@@sarahthompson8610They got seperated and found each other in a time where the internet was a no no. Funny, if one was a man, would this bother you?
@PrincessDie187
@PrincessDie187 Год назад
This sounds incredible, sign me up
@kelb6073
@kelb6073 Год назад
I love this stuff. They seem very lucky. It seems they lived a pretty great life for the time.
@cheriegonzales7632
@cheriegonzales7632 Год назад
That diary entry is my absolute perfect day
@davesky538
@davesky538 Год назад
Very kool!
@adaeverleigh9584
@adaeverleigh9584 Год назад
I've known nuns who were *best companions" too.
@susanyoung5447
@susanyoung5447 Год назад
That home is gorgeous. I love the architecture in the front of the building. Andthe rear looks like it was inspired by Tudor architecture. I don't know much about architecture, just what I like. What is the style that runs along the front of the building called?
@MrHotlipsholohan
@MrHotlipsholohan 10 месяцев назад
Very good research, sarah used to hide elenor in Woodstock house in Inisteoige Co.Kilkenny so they could be together , I feel their relationship started as friendship when sarah was young and elenor had a huge influence on her as she was 16 yrs older but developed into love over time , they probably were lovers and the servant too , great Anne Lister visited them as she was of the same persuasion, it was a difficult period socially for those women and they must have become popular even as an oddity in the day, wonder what they thought of Byron cos he was a wild character and a bit deviant.
@ellaeadig263
@ellaeadig263 Год назад
They sound so happy! Good on them.
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