I bought a Lancer Pacifica in 86. It was my first new car and cost about $16,750 out the door. The only option available was stick or auto. It was a cool little car, leather trimmed seats, 146 turbo horses. Served us well for about 14 yrs and 140,000 miles before it was totaled by a distracted driver. Still have a warm spot in my heart for them. Never saw another one on the road. Dodge came out with a Shelby version a year after we bought ours. Intercooled with about 176 horses. I was a little pissed.
We had the gold silver 86 ES with turbo engine and suspension , automatic, infinity sound system and digital dash we bought because Oldsmobile ciera wouldn't offer anything close in terms of price or discounts and Lancer ES was a better value after owning a pontiac phoenix and finding the 6000 ste was a next generation phoenix , we liked it but not round #2 in the shop or fighting recalls, loved the Lancer but the transmission went out and after replacing head gasket and head couldn't see spending more big money on it and some parts just stopped existing . This was in winter and our next car was not as good in snow or handle as well or was not as good with gas as Lancer. .We soon missed the hauling space with the lancer's rear seats down , Always loved the car and had a weakness for it too.and we found some parts just stopped existing. It served us real well and we loved it. It was close to a perfect car from versatility to power, handling and design , comfort, fuel economy and price/value as almost any car we have had in last 20 years and it was damn close to an AWD subaru in snow with wide rims, low tight center of gravity, front drive and the turbo delay from a stop[it made up for it on highway speeds with high hp/lb ratio] They were underrated and great cars.
Here's 1 for you. The 1 yr only 1992 Dodge Daytona Iroc Shelby. Shelbys had been around for awhile at Chrysler, but 92 was the last time a Daytona offered it. It was not a specific model, but an option package for the Iroc edition, available only with new high torque 2.5 T engine and HD 5 speed. That edition was only available in black, red or white. Interior colors were limited to black or gray. It came with a special suspension, maximum performance brakes, Y rated unidirectional tires, performance exhaust with dual tipped muffler, and if you ordered 1 with leather, you got the famous CS logo. We special ordered 1 in late 91, and didn't get it until the spring of 92! I have no good numbers on how many were produced. We had it for 10yrs before rust started to really get it, but it was a pretty trouble free car ( only the a/c failed, as did the radio) that got high 30s mpg on extended trips.
The Omni 024 was at its best when they turned it into a Shelby Charger. I test drove one back in the day, and it handled tight and the engine pulled pretty hard for a naturally aspirated 4 banger. It didn't hurt either that it looked cool AF.
Fun fact: I was selling at a Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep store in 2014 and I fondly recall the Sebring TSi. Sadly, it was much higher priced than the regular Sebring models, so the dealerships didn't want to stock them. I wanted one in the worst way, but couldn't justify the cost. The thing I liked the most was the genuine (real) wood on the dash. Very classy interior. That De Tomaso is not something I've ever seen or hear of, but I bet a clean low miles one today would be worth a lot.
Same here, I admit it too.. the Sebring TSi just got the Sebrings looks RIGHT. It's the only Sebring model in my eyes that LOOKS special, but to be stuck with that cancerous 2.7L engine's 200HP in 2005 was just begging to be laughed at. The 2005(First year of the 5th Generation Mustang) V6 Mustang with it's SOHC 4.0L V6 made 210HP and at the time that wasn't even adequate when compared to it's competition. If I do recall, didn't the TSi's engine actually make a tad more power than the normal spec 2.7L? I thought the regular Sebring was only making 190HP.
I owned a 1986 Chrysler LeBaron GTS turbo. It was a blast as a first car. I got it in 1993 with 135,000 miles on it when I turned 16. It had the digital dash and talked. I took it everywhere, including not on roads. I lived in a rural area, so it was taken all over.
I dated someone who had a Dodge Stratus coupe, four cylinder, and stick shift. It was a very bizarre combination but a surprisingly fun-ish car to drive. I think the head gasket blew...
I had a 97 Stratus 2.0 5-speed sedan. I remember when the car mags tested them, this configuration was quickest, faster than the v-6 which was only available with the "AutoStick" transmission. It handled really well, huge backseat and trunk, and got great MPG.
I knew of all of these, but still a good watch. I had an '87 Lancer ES, an '85 Lebaron GTS - both 2.2T, and an '04 Sebring LXi Convertible (and a '97 LXi & '99 LX convertibles)
I owned a 1988 Dodge Lance ES. Loved that car and drove it for 12 years. It was decked out with a turbocharged engine, red paint with gray leather interior, sunroof, etc.
I almost got a DeTomaso but the louvers seemed too peculiar, as did the fake sportiness. Looking at the interior now, the wood appliqué doesn’t do it much good either. Chrysler didn’t have a lot of dollars to work with at that time!
1:10 It's actually a common misconception that the TC is just a fancy LeBaron but in reality it's not because the TC is shorter than the LeBaron almost 10 in in fact LeBaron of the era is 184 TC is 175
All in all good video! Slight correction concerning the 2.7. I believe it generated 192 ft-lbs of torque, The 205 is from the 3.0 l Mitsubishi found in the Sebring coupe which shared nothing with the sedan. I was familiar with the TSI trim on the Sebring since I was in college when it came out. It seemed like they wanted to make it a slightly more sporty trim for Chrysler but it really didn't make sense.
Great vid as always, its the only channel which goes in to really obscure american cars. Idk if its already been done, but if your looking for ideas, itd be interesting to cover american cars sold only outside the US, such as the Dodge Phantom TSE or Magnum Mexico or even chrysler 300c CRD
The 1991 / 1992 Dodge Spirit R/T seems to never make a 90S list, sleeper car list, rare care list. At the time…..the stats were above mustangs and Camaros; pushing the edge of BMWs M5 at the time. Only about 2200 made and the aluminum heads (by Lotus) VERY frequently. It was an obnoxiously fast, heavy torque steering Monster.
I remember most of them back then, since I was into Chrysler at the time. This reminds me of the '86 or so Buick Grand National LeSabre. I only saw it once in an ad. My dad even sold cars for Buick back then and he had never heard of it.
I had a 90 Plymouth Laser Turbo with the 5 speed. Identical to the eclipse unlike the talon. Those DSM cars were a lot of fun back in the 90s. Anyway, once again, great video. Keep them coming!
The spoilers and side skirts are identical to the one on the Shelby Lancer (minus the roof spoiler). In fact, they were installed at Shelby's facility in SoCal.
@@GreenHawkDrive True, but Chrysler turbo engines didn't get serious unless you had a 2.2 Turbo II or Turbo III. I owned a '92 Spirit R/T with the turbo III once (227hp) and it was an absolute sleeper and rocket! That was an insane amount of punch from a four cylinder in the early 90s.
Loved my 1981 Dodge Omni 024....had the 2.2L 4 cyl and everything else was base model. Only had 33k miles when I got it in January 1985 for a cool $2800. Sadly, the previous owner had taught his 4 kids how to drive stick on my new ride....and by June 1985, the clutch cable snapped and then in September 1985, the clutch itself went out. I traded it in after only 14 months and 12k miles driven....and bought a cool 1985 Dodge Lancer with the....2.2L 4 cyl engine....but this time, I had the 3 speed automatic, AC, and I got AM/FM stereo cassette. LOL The Lancer was awesome the next 2 1/2 years and over 75k miles. My 85 Lancer had the column shifter, something not many got. Sorry to say I have not owned a Prowler yet, but I do have a 2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible Limited in my garage, bought new, now has 120k miles on it. Guess I like weird cars? HAHA!!
I had a 1983 Charger with the 2.2L. My clutch cable snapped after about 2.5 years. I shifted without using the clutch and started it while in gear until I got it to the dealership. Although a few things broke on that car in the 4 years that I owned it, the repairs were not very expensive.
@@michaelcavalier8750 Yes, the repairs on my 81 024 were not expensive either. $100 on the clutch cable, $300 on the clutch replacement...and my Dad paid for it since it went out on him. Thanks Dad!! Haha.
I don't recall the 1st gen Sebring and Avengers coming with a V6 manual combo. V6s were auto only but you could get them with a 4 cylinder and 5 speed manual combo
10:59 So, if you slap a Ford badge on and make a few subtle changes to the fascia and rear end of a Chevrolet Blazer, you get a Ford Capri? Man, who'd of thunk? Oh, and also those wheels are abominations.
They dropped the ball on the Prowler by only offering a 6 cylinder.. Should have gotten the Viper V10! I have seen many swapped to the V10 on the Internet..
Missed the spirit r/t and Daytona with the same 16v lotus Headed turbo. Honorable mention to the shadow csx and any Shelby cars (glh lancer etc) or trucks (Dakota). Speaking of Dakota convertible of the period. Might as well throw in Consulier for fun.
You're right about the new Capri. So folks that like the old Capri will hate the new one and folks who've never heard of the Capri won't care that it's called Capri so why didn't Ford just give this new golf cart a new name?
Back in 2009, when I was at a Chrysler dealership getting my oil change and some one told me about the Chrysler Sebring TSi version I didn't think it was true until. I thought it would carry a 2.4L turbocharged inline 4 just like the Neon SRT4, Caliber SRT4, GT Cruiser, and the Mexico version Dodge Stratus 2.4L turbocharged inline 4. That would have been awesome and fun to drive with a manual transmission. But instead, they put the unreliable oil sludged 2.7 L V6 with a wimpy 200hp and 205 lb torque. Chrysler messed up a good thing in 2006.
I used to own an 88 Shelby Lancer w/Turbo 2 and Getrag A555. After having the head corrected, it was reliable. Not the best handling or cornering but very predictable behavior and a torquey engine. More so after upgrading it
Again, the Chrysler TC by Maserati was not a modified Lebaron convertible. The TC was in development before the J-body Lebaron coupe and convertible. The TC was late in getting to production due to various circumstances.
Oh my lord, one car look soooooo hypercar. 4:38 Why didn't they release that beauty? Look so fast...🏎️💨 That car at the front reminds me of a two door Ford Thunderbird sport car
This car debuted about the time roughly 20% of Americans could actually fit in it. Just bad marketing research. Years later SUVs and pickup trucks were a smash hit!
I've owned an '85 Dodge Lancer, that I've bought back in '87. The car was GREAT, had very low miles, (don't remember how many). That car at times, would actually get 44mpg, with a 2.2 Ltr engine going from Yuma, Az, up to Northern California. The car was truely phenomenal up, until 70K miles, then it seemed to just FALL APART! It began to leak oil from the valve cover gasket, and oil pan gasket, then a power steering hose blew.. then the Idle speed sensor went "WACKO", and then because of the oil leaks, the TIMING BELT broke.......luckily, it was a "NON"-interference engine. finally got it all done, and then gave it to the X wifey, she wrecked it..................l
Ha ha! This is awesome. Most, if not all Chrysler engines back then were made by Mitsubishi I think (could be wrong). They were so confusing and easy to mix up especially getting into the 024 or Eagle Talon, Eclipse etc. Sebring was the start of the fall for Chrysler after dropping a phenomenal LeBaron - I had a 90 then 92 convertible. My mom had the turbo 89 2 door coupe.94 Neon was my first brand new car and what a piece of junk. Traded for a 94 Miata with zero regret. Excellent video and great memories. Too bad the manufacturers no longer make fun and slightly different cars today. They're just some shade of grey and 4 door boring - unless you want to pay big bucks.
Buddy you are doing an amazing job with your channel. We all make mistakes. Shit happens "F" the haters. Keep grinding your channel is definitely worth watching. I've got myself looking for a new video every Sunday. I get thinking maybe I missed the notification or something 😂. Anyway keep at it young fella 👍🇨🇦🔧
Cool episode bro, although I have never wanted one, the two SE prowlers looked pretty damn good. I guess the two tone paint jobs just gave them a better appearance. Keep the great vids coming.👌👍🤘🔥🔥
As a creator myself, I understand your frustration with the low arrention spans of the viewers who consume your videos; it can be quite frustrating when you put so much effort into your channel.
3:32 I have to admit that the basket-handle roof treatment makes the hideous 024 look, well, less hideous. 3:45 My Lancer was not a Pacifica, but someone might have called it "Arizonica". It had all the usual options, including power windows, locks, driver's seat, and mirrors, all for $10,999. BUT, it was lacking a rear defogger, suggesting that these cars (there were a bunch on the lot) were headed to some place too dry to need rear defogging. Who knows, maybe a deal with some Middle East sheikdom fell through. PS: Another infamous abandoned b*stard-child car was the Chevrolet "Iraquabu", a lot of specially ordered Malibus with AC, rubber seats, 3-on-the-floor transmissions and very little else. They were sold off in Canada after a deal with Saddam Hussaine fell through.
Ford Capri. Originally a Mercury Capri. Do they make a 2-door Anything anymore besides the 'Vette?? Even the Mustang is available with 4 doors! Anyway, the BIGGEST Mistake Chrysler Ever made (ok, one of a few) was dropping the name LeBaron for Sebring. The LeBaron, especially the convertible, was one of The Biggest Chick Magnets Ever Built in America!!❤😊The Prowler was Plymouth's Hail Mary pass to draw attention to and try to save a division that had been filled with rebadges for years. Maybe decades! But it came at Least 5 years too late. Oldsmobile tried the same thing with the Aurora and the Intrigue. The Eagle Premier ES Limited with its amber turn signals and paper-white wheels is one of the MOST BEAUTIFUL Cars GOD EVER put on this Planet!!!!!❤❤I Hate it when a stateside Motor Division folds!! I miss ALL of 'Em!! Even Mercury! (The Grand Marquis is a fave amongst Chicago bad guys!!)😢😢😭😭And I'll Always remember the Dodge Lancer as one of several cars driven by the bad guys in Walter Hill's "Extreme Prejudice (1987)".❤
Nice job but one correction. Chrysler was still using their TorqueFlite 3-speed auto in the Lancer. The 4-speed Ultradrive didn't arrive until 1989. Also it was your typical mid-sized sedan for the 80s. I test-drove an 89 Shelby that had horrid turbo lag. It's replacement, the Spirit, was only interesting after it got the DOHC turbo engine in the R/T. As for the Capri...which one? The UK import first gen? The rebadged Mustang second? Or the Australian imported convertible third gen? I remember them all. And, no, I don't care for the ev version.
Before the Mercury Capri “fun little sports coupe” that I think your thinking of the MX-5/Miata wannabe convertible roadster, which I never noticed when new, was the early 80s fox body Mustang rebadge that an older cousin (ie old enough to drive when I was under 10) had. That’s why I knew about the ‘Stang copy (I closely followed stangs as a child could since my had had a ‘64.5 and I did like the ‘74-78 much more than the ‘71-73)
Thank you. You really have become good and doing your homework, gathering footage and more. Keep doing what you are doing. I am curious as to what you look like as you share your gained knowledge and your voice talents. I noticed the more videos you do, the more confident you have become. I got behind on your videos because we were hit with a hurricane here in Texas. I read and saw the Capri for Ford in Europe. It shares its platform with Volkswagen. We live in a crossover and suv world. That is why Ford did it. The last Capri from Australia was not that successful.
@@GreenHawkDrive This is good to know as it shows. I have enjoyed watching you use Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight and Toronado in your videos as well as other cars. People are recovering. This is an going process. It takes time.
I just remember the 80s and 90s having to go get the stupid automatics out of park if they didnt set the e brake first they would load the park prawl too heavy so you had to rock them while pullling gear lever
Just a few seconds in and you already have bad data. The TC WAS FIRST!!!!! It was developed and built BEFORE the LeBaron but was delayed to the US market because of import issues. The LeBaron was ALWAYS intended to be the more affordable look-a-like a year or two after the introduction of the TC.
the mitsubishi lancer was from 1973 >2008 and 1986 chrysler drops their version the 2 cars must have overlapped using the same lancer name,strange there was no lawsuit? no body told them? or did I miss something lol , the videos are awesome as well btw
The Lancer Pacifica was almost my first car in '98. One was for sale in my neighborhood in Fresno but I was a little short. My dad offered to pay the difference the next day but it was too late. Got to save my money since my dad gave me one of his Magnums. So my first car was a 1979 Dodge Magnum GT 440. In my mind I was driving around in kool muscle car but everyone else just saw a land boat haha. Still was a fun and reliable car but lost it in 2005; parked at my divorced fathers house while out of town and my ex stepmom had the car towed out of spite. sadfacebro
The chrysler tc by Maserati is not a LeBaron. The tc has its own platform and it was built in a completely different factory in Italy. The tc just looks like a LeBaron.
It was weird, for me the roof band looked good on the 911, but looked like you were a poser on the others. Admittedly, it didn’t look bad on the Italian sports car from Detroit.
Interesting video. What is the car interior in the outro (10:37)? The first generation Mercury Capri was based on the European Ford Capri, the second seems to be related to the Ford Mustang, and the third generation was apparently based on a Mazda. More importantly, none of them had four doors. I can understand that they want to introduce electric vehicles, but using the Capri name on a four door SUV is, in my not so humble opinion, sacrilege, and I'm not even particularly fond of Fords
@blue_lancer_es I'm not sure the engine code for the 1.8 but the 2g did not have the 4g63 N/A it was the 420a in those but the turbo in the 2g was the 4g63t they were also in the Evo and galant vr4
Except those - only >VERY SPECIAL< 500 Chrysler´s TC built by Maserati ( +1 = very last handmade for CEO Bob Lutz in May1990 out of spare parts after 7300 units made)(- 3 of those 500 series , were never sold to public and are KEPT in the Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills)- with 225+hp tested Cosworth/Maserati built Twin CAM, 16V engines & the German Getrag 284 Man., 5 Speed Trans and all Shelby engineered 2.2s Chrysler intercooled Turbos - the presented cars are not very special...A little bit so so... boring? a little bit more sophisticated than average? The Prowler was an out of average... weird? a Design icon? ...@ least a car for the musician "PRINCE" ... god bless him...& R.I.P.special special
Might want to avoid overuse of the long "a" when pronouncing the word "a." Read it the way you'd speak it in normal conversation. Also, "the." Do you really pronounce it "thee" in daily use?
@@GreenHawkDrive thanks for interesting content, everybody else out here talking about Bugattis and your talking about cars I see at the grocery store, it’s a very different style that I like